NOTE: This is a parody called "El Ammo", it is not the Himalaya Studios game "Al Emmo"
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El Ammo and the Flying Dutchman's Mine, a witty western with a healthy dose of
bullets, follows in the tradition of classic shoot-em-up gaming. Join El, a
tough, triggerhappy, Westerner, on his journey into the heart of the Wild-West
in search of a suitable kitten. Shoot the quaint mold-rush town of Tumbleweed
Gulch; chat up highly obnoxious babes; cautiously evade warring cactus tribes;
discover legends of lost ghosts; bask in the intense heat of combat; encounter
breathtaking falling bottles; meet up with the occasional rabid prairie dog,
and shoot it!
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El Ammo and the Flying Dutchman's Mine is a fictional comedy with emphasis
on, well, shooting things.
No dialogue pictures, beautifully illustrated or otherwise, allow deep interaction
with any NPCs. High-color, hand painted backgrounds create a gaming world that is
truly a marvel to shoot to little pieces.
Built on AGS, one of the most feature-intensive game development engines around,
the game utilizes state-of-the-art prerendered 3D graphics, harnessing today's
leading technology and submersing the player into a bullet-rich world of enemies
and cactuses. Cacti. Whatever.
Download: http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=784
This game is rated PG-13 for violent content. But come on, it's just pixels.
If you're going to be offended by a bloody pixel you should probably hide away
in a cave somewhere. Or have a nice chat with that Jack Thompson guy.
You need to get a better host!
I'm not paying money to download files for a free game.
I thought this was going to be a commercial game? No?
EDIT: Sorry I'm a rather grumpy mood!
Matt, this is not Al Emmo. It seems to be some kind of parody on it.
Quote from: Hey, a Llama on Mon 04/09/2006 19:45:42
High-color, hand painted backgrounds create a gaming world that is
truly a marvel to shoot to little pieces.
the game utilizes state-of-the-art prerendered 3D graphics, harnessing today's
leading technology and submersing the player into a bullet-rich world of enemies
and cactuses.
i'm not sure if himalaya knows about this, but i know britney worked really hard on the graphics for their game, and i don't think just ripping their graphics before their game is even released is a wise move.
Bah humbug, it was a terrible game, not worth my money.
Even though the graphics and gameplay itself were ok, it's not something I'd pay money for.
EVER.
Confusion abounds!
I am confused too. This same thread was started at adventure gamers and removed just a while ago.
Yeah, we noticed the link to the thread at the AG main site, but the thread was already taken down by the mods there.
To clarify, the game being offered here is not affiliated, endorsed or otherwise connected to Himalaya Studios. Somebody downloaded the demo and presumably the sample music on our site, screen-captured the art and animations and put them together in a project obviously intended to poke fun at ours. (I have no idea to the identity of the thread starter, but my hunch is that it's an old regular of the adventure game community who dropped out of the public spotlight nearly a year ago...nobody else I know would take so much time to create spoofs on AGDI or Himalaya)
It's unfortunate that this is being distributed so close to the release date of our own game, the last thing we want is to cause confusion and additional complications in the midst of a well-prepared public release process. We're not going to demand this thread to be closed yet, but when our own game is gonna be released, the LEAST thing I'll do is ask the mods here to rename this thread to get rid of any more confusion.
Hope that clears things up for everyone.
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You don't have to pay for the download just click the free button at the bottom and wait 30 sec for the download link to come up.
From the read me in the folder.
Note: El Ammo is a work of parody. All graphics and music are the copyright and
legal property of Himalaya Studios, who are not affiliated with Hey, A Llama
Studios in any way whatsoever. All events and characters depicted in this work
are fictive, and any resemblance to any events or characters in real life is
entirely coincidentally. If you enjoyed this game, check out the game of Al Emmo
on www.himalayastudios.net, which is a lot less silly than this one but it's
really nice and you should really download it. Hell, if you hated this game
because it was too damn silly you should still go to Himalaya and download their
game. El Ammo is a work of freeware and no money may be charged for it at all,
not even for the download or the CD or whatever. If you want to include El Ammo
in any kind of collection, shareware CD or anything, be my guest but please
consider also adding the Al Emmo demo. This software may contain nuts. The
direction is not responsible for any goods stolen or lost while your attention
was purely focused on the software, nor for any damage, real or otherwise, that
this game may afflict to your computer, real or otherwise. The surgeon general
says that reading lengthy disclaimers can be hazardous to your health. Thank you.
That website is only free until you've downloaded so much, then you must pay.
But I don't want this pparody thing anyway. Seems pointless to play a parody of a game I have yet to play.
Ok I see. I pay for an account there so I download for free.
I could upload it someplace else if you like.
http://www.mytempdir.com/910248
Might as well. Let other people play it for free.
waste of money...
EDIT: Please avoid unnecessary swearing
QuoteWe're not going to demand this thread to be closed yet, but when our own game is gonna be released, the LEAST thing I'll do is ask the mods here to rename this thread to get rid of any more confusion.
Actually, that's exactly what I'm going to request. I'd appreciate if a moderator or admin could remove this thread/game from the AGS forums/site. We're going to be releasing Al Emmo this week and this seems suspiciuously like a deliberate attempt to cause confusion.
Furthermore, whoever made this did not get approval or permission to use any of our game's material. So I'm requesting that this thread and the content relating to the game please be removed from the AGS site. Thanks.
Parody is exempt from US copyright law, isn't it?
Quote from: SSH on Tue 05/09/2006 10:46:07
Parody is exempt from US copyright law, isn't it?
I think so.
QuoteParody is exempt from US copyright law, isn't it?
Not in the way most people think. Here is how it DOESN'T work.
IP owner: You're using my intellectual property without my consent. Kindly meet me in court next friday.
Parody maker: But this material is parody.
IP owner: Oh...in that case, it must be legal. Nevermind me.
The parody-section of the fair use clause doesn't protect anyone against anything. This is how it WOULD work.
IP Owner's lawyer: Your honor, on behalf of my client, I'd like this product's distribution to be ceased as it contains intellectual property that was used without my client's consent.
Parody maker's lawyer: This material is parody, your honor.
So basically, the parody-section does not prevent legal action from happening, it's just an argument your lawyer could use in court in an attempt to avoid losing the case...although it has never actually anyone a case so far. Even if it IS a parody, you're only allowed to use what you absolutely need.
Of course, that doesn't have anything to do with this situation...we're not interested in starting lawsuits or anything...we just want to avoid the presence of confusing factors as our own game is prepared for shipping. (confusion as in...having a thread called "El Ammo: now released!" and a thread called "Al Emmo: now released!" in the same forum)
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Quote from: Erpy on Tue 05/09/2006 11:07:26
So basically, the parody-section does not prevent legal action from happening, it's just an argument your lawyer could use in court in an attempt to avoid losing the case...although it has never actually anyone a case so far.
Apart from Campbell vs Acuff-Rose Music Inc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_v._Acuff-Rose_Music%2C_Inc.) and Suntrust vs Houghton Mifflin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suntrust_v._Houghton_Mifflin) you mean? :P
I think it is reasonable for the subject of this thread to be changed to "El Ammo (Parody)". I don't think it is reasonable for it to be deleted. Threads are hardly ever "removed" from these forums, only locked, and locking would not achieve a great deal.
I'd say that unless Mr. Lamma comes in again and speaks his mind delete it! No matter the freedom of speach or anything like that, this is totally ill comment on a game to be released. No humour! No parody! There is no mention of a parody in this thread, and it is harmful for a game for which many have tryed and 'suffered' to release.
Unless the creator has something to say, delete it! OR change the tittle completly!
Some of the best parodies ever have been hugely misinterpreted, as some people took them seriousyl, and their humour and effectiveness has been dependent on looking authentic. April fools jokes usually are best when they try to look authentic, as is Swift's "A Modest Proposal".
Also, I nearly said "Assume good faith" but then I realised I've been editing wikipedia too much recently...
I can just see the real game being released and at least one person shouting:
"Hey!! You ripped off that El Ammo game you bastards!"
Parodies are fine, but shouldn't they be released AFTER the original game has come out?
If this is who we suspect it to be from, then this isn't merely a flattering joke. Trust me on that.
I don't have any problem with parodies. Al Emmo itself is made of many parodied characters and scenes, so, yes, we're aware of how parody law works since we had to check into whether we could include such things ourselves. Ã,Â
The issue here isn't that this is a parody, it's the fact that material has been taken directly from our game and used without our permission. The title is also confusingly similar in a way that intentionally tries to confuse between this and the real product. Ã, So again, I'm requesting that the thread please be deleted
Thanks.
I'm with Matt. A parody of a game before the game is released? Whatever the creator was intending, he could have come up with something more believable.
Surely its a parody of the DEMO, which has been released, Rui and Matt.
I don't think that a thread should be deleted because Himalaya suspect anything. They should PM their concerns and suspicions to a moderator who will be able to look at IP addresses, etc, for the Llama and so on.
Also, parody and satire can be challenging and point out flaws, rather than just be funny. I don't see how an intention to be flattering or not is relevant.
The Campbell vs Acuff-Rose Music Inc case I linked earlier was a parody that had explicitly been refused permission to use the copyright material they used. And yet they still won.
As for the title, do you think the people would confuse "Gill Bates" with the head of Microsoft? or parody walkthroughs by "Gren Leen" with those by "Len Green"? Because I don't. I've never heard of copyright or trademark protection applying to anagrams or spoonerisms.
Actually, I started an edit saying "delete" would be overkill... but I didn't write it because I thought, "As the owner of the IP, AGDI are in the right to at least "sue", as it were - in this case, try and get it to disappear, like any company."
QuoteAs for the title, do you think the people would confuse "Gill Bates" with the head of Microsoft? or parody walkthroughs by "Gren Leen" with those by "Len Green"? Because I don't. I've never heard of copyright or trademark protection applying to anagrams or spoonerisms.
Often, yes, it confuses people. Particularly when the real release is anticipated. I have no doubt that is why it was removed at Adventuregamers. People are accustomed to spelling errors online and their first reaction is often to assume the poster made a typo. If someone writes a post online saying: "Stive Erwin died", the first thing I'd assume is that he IS referring to the wildlife nurturer and that he simply typed too quickly. Thus I'd be confused. Not to mention the fact lots of people quickly skim stuff online.
QuoteThe Campbell vs Acuff-Rose Music Inc case I linked earlier was a parody that had explicitly been refused permission to use the copyright material they used. And yet they still won.
This case would not be similar because even under the parody clause, you're only allowed to take as much IP as you absolutely need. (in the case you quoted...some of the lyrics) That means you're only allowed to directly take art or music if creating a likeness yourself isn't possible. (again, if you can't directly copy the essence of the lyrics of a song, it's difficult to parody anything) You can't take art or music just because it saves you the time of having to create it yourself.
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Not to get into a debate about this, but I think I've made our position clear. Ã, Ironically, the afore-mentioned things are all legal issues which we had to contend with when dealing with VU and the reason why we had to change our name "Tierra" to "AGDI". The same story behind "KQ9" having to be changed to "The Silver Lining".
Legalities aside, I'm asking politely that the thread be removed simply out of respect for the work that many people have been put into it and for the same reasons why anybody else would request the same thing. Whether the screens are from the demo or not is beside the point. The fact remains that we did not give permission for these materials to be used in this way, and that in itself violates the user agreement of both the full game and the demo.
My,my the world is in a state of decline. I never thought human stupidity actually WAS infinite but now I'm having my doubts... If the situation is so bad that the Himalaya studios have to threaten the author with lawsuit unless he brings the game down in order to save their work than I am truly sorry for them, and for the people who seem to get stupidier by every day. My god is it really so hard to realize that this is NOT the true release(let alone simply reading the game name a few times until the veil of stupidity is raised)? Now, Erpy and Himalaya team, just let it go, this is pathetic, you have to have some faith in humanity. Furthermore, I am partly against your attitude, do you really consider yourself a serious company if you have the time and money to go about banning other people's fan games just because they use some of your art? The author of the game clearly just meant this game as a joke and as such you ought not bother yourself with it unless the actual parody truly depicts the level of your game... Stop this farse people because it is balancing on the verge of insanity and idiocy. By turning your attention to a stupid little game you give us a reason to think that you bother yourself with goose chase instead of working on improving your own, commercial game. Everyone has faith in you, do not give us a reason not to.
I'm glad you guys decided not to charge 30 bucks for this after all!
Oh gawd... here we go again! ::)
To the AGD2's last response- and I do the very contrary and encourage that the topic be left alone, as a sign of respect for pure critique and the freedom of word. Honestly if critique(in any form whatsoever) was a crime our world would be one gigantic folly, specifically speaking the game companies can hardly do popular games while muting the gamers' concerns as to the game they are producing, both sides would lose in effect, the gamers unsatisfied and the company bankrupt...
Since we don't know who the llama guy is, how can we judge whether he is capable of making his own art or music? I know that I certainly couldn't produce anything that looked vaguely like Al Emmo, does that mean I would be able to use screenshots if I were to make a parody?
I understand your POV but I just feel you're being very thin-skinned which does little for Himalaya's image.
SSH, officially, if you don't have the capabilities of creating something that captures the essence of the work that is to be parodied, you're expected to find someone who CAN produce the desired effect and get him to work with you. That's the way it works.
We're not threatening anyone with lawsuits, nor are we "going after" anyone. We've taken a lot of criticism, both constructive and unconstructive, in response to the demo and never demanded those comments to be deleted either. We simply object to the extensive and unnecessary use of the results of our work. Our world won't be any crazier at the end of the day and critique and freedom of word will probably still exist as they are.
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Well, I'm not sure what all this talk about critique or threatening lawsuits is coming from. I never mentioned any such things. I specifically said that the game uses our artwork and that I'm respectfully requesting the thread's removal to avoid confusion.
Look, honestly, it doesn't matter what we type. Some intellectual will always be there to try to twist it around and this is to be expected when posting on adventure game-related forums. All I can say to that is that I'm not trying to maintain any image. I don't play the appeasement game. If you like our game, then that's great and you can buy it! If not, then don't. But the game itself and the legal issues in this thread have absolutely nothing to do with one another.
What I am doing here, is asking that the thread be removed for the afore-mentioned reasons. It's a matter between the mods here and ourselves, so until a mod replies, I'll leave it at that.
QuoteI'm glad you guys decided not to charge 30 bucks for this after all!
Ha! :=
As a moderator of the CL (but not this forum) I don't really see a problem here, guys. Sure it uses IP from your game, and certainly if I felt that the game itself was poking insult at yours I'd see your point here, but after playing it...Well, it's just a saloon type shooter that seems more silly than anything. I think you should pm Chris directly and get his judgement on it, but personally aside from it bothering you I don't see it as offensive. ;|
Quote from: Erpy on Tue 05/09/2006 13:38:01
SSH, officially, if you don't have the capabilities of creating something that captures the essence of the work that is to be parodied, you're expected to find someone who CAN produce the desired effect and get him to work with you. That's the way it works.
As a point of fact, it isn't. FACT copied the entirety of a Scientological work and it was found to be fair use. It all depends on the exact circumstances as the court sees them, but anyway, I don't want to carry the legal discussion anyu further as I don't want to confuse people.
As AGD2 stated that he's not trying to maintain an image, then please feel free to alienate the members of one of the biggest forums related to your market by appearing arrogant and hypocritical, although that may worry Himalaya's creditors...
Quote from: bury100 on Tue 05/09/2006 13:20:37
My god is it really so hard to realize that this is NOT the true release(let alone simply reading the game name a few times until the veil of stupidity is raised)?
If it was a high profile game like grand theft auto, and the parody game was called grandma theft auto, then sure I'd spot it a mile away. However, it is a game I've read about ONCE, and has a name that is foreign to me.
I'm with himalaya on this one.
it's fine making a parody, but stealing copyrighted artwork to do it (which i know people worked really hard on) isn't the way to go. especially a week before the game's release. i think this thread should be deleted, since this is definitely damaging to al emmo's release (if the guy used his own artwork, even if its really bad, then there woulnd't have been a problem). there will be people who will be confused by this. especially because they are so close to the real al emmo's release and it has the same screenshots. or just remove it atleast until a month after al emmo's release.
but i don't like getting into debates, so i'll leave it at that.
Actually, Himalaya uses the copyright issue simply as a reason to support their dislike of a project with an almost identical name before the release. Of course they have all the right in the world to demand that the game is banned, albeit it is my opinion, and advice that they simply shouldn't. The reasons for this were already mentioned in this thread therefore I am not going to repeat myself. However, the demand was already made and I am sure that the moderator will soon announce his decision in this matter, I do not see the reason for continuing this pointless debate any longer, for as AGD2 said, this is an issue between the moderator and the Himalaya Studios(although the author might have a word or two on the topic as well). It is very likely that this project is indeed a violent sabotage on the welfare of the Al Emmo project, seeing as so much effort was made(the game was announced on many different forums) for the cause of releasing and spreading a game as trivial and poorly designed as El Ammo.
not to be rude or anything, bury, but if you are referring to the fabricated reasons you sucked out of your thumb, then maybe you shoulnd't be so quick to call people stupid.
Quote... by appearing arrogant and hypocritical, although that may worry Himalaya's creditors...
Ah, yes. The good old "arrogance" line. That's always a favourite, eh? (Although I find it odd that the majority accusers often don't see the irony contained in their own statements. ) Ã, ;)
Look, I think no matter how politely you word something, someone's always going to be there to call you arrogant. If you try to defend yourself/your work against a general consensus that possibility exists. Ã, Hence, it's to be taken with a grain of salt. Like I said, I'm not here to get involved in endless debates or to act like a showman propping up some fake image. I'm simply putting in an honest request to the mods, and that's all.
If I didn't think this could potentially affect us, I wouldn't have bothered mentioning it -- especially considering the inevitable reaction these threads always seem to generate.
QuoteActually, Himalaya uses the copyright issue simply as a reason to support their dislike of a project with an almost identical name before the release.
If the game used its own assets, and a non-confusing name. I couldn't care less about the parody. As I mentioned, I don't have any issue at all with the parody aspect. Ã, The primary issue is the specific timing of its release. The creator planned and intended the release for this exact time because he knew that we'd react in such a manner to protect our work if it was 'ripped' in this way. And he knew that posting it on the very public AGS forums would garner this kind of controversial response.
There are no two ways about it, this is intended as sabotage and has elicited the exact type of response the poster was hoping for prior to our launch date.
Umm, so why didn't you just use the "Report to moderator" button, and/or PM?
I did! Nobody's replied yet.
I can understand that this might seem much more threatening from where the Himalaya Studio developers are sitting, but I don't personally think a quick parody game hosted on rapidshare - which is enough of a deterrent itself to stop the causal browser downloading it - is going to affect the release of your game at all. You'll probably do more harm drawing attention to it than if you just let it bury itself amongst the depths of the internet as it will surely do on it's own accord :P
But whether it's malicious or not, I'll at least edit the title to denote more clearly that it's a parody. I'm not crazy about deleting something that's mostly harmless for now, but I'll discuss the situation with the rest of the moderators.
Why are they worried that a piece of hastily cut 'n pasted nonsense could damage them?
It looks like it's more a case of personal insult, since they obviously know, or at least suspect, who this person is.
Choose your battles, I say.
It is a trick by AGDI to get publicity for their upcoming game :o. Surrounding something with controversy is technique used by many organizations to get people interested in something they normally wouldn't be interested in ;D
All joking aside, I feel AGDI needs to view this as a blessing in disguise. Now some people are going to want to play the real game to see what the parody is parodizing (sp?).
Thanks for adding the parody line and the warning that this is not the real game. While I'm a little disapointed that the forum can be used as a safe-haven for publishing this kind of material against a copyright holder's wishes, I'm satisfied that the changes made will no longer result in any confusion about the two projects.
Why make a parody aboiut an unreleased game anyway? who would understand the parody... ?
Quote from: Nostradamus on Wed 06/09/2006 08:14:22
Why make a parody aboiut an unreleased game anyway? who would understand the parody... ?
Exactly! Spot on post! And what a waste of a post is mine. but then again what a waste of a thread is this thread ;)
Quote from: AGD2 on Wed 06/09/2006 04:24:06While I'm a little disapointed that the forum can be used as a safe-haven for publishing this kind of material against a copyright holder's wishes
That's a tad harsh. :-\
QuoteWhile I'm a little disapointed that the forum can be used as a safe-haven for publishing this kind of material against a copyright holder's wishes
Don't forget the drug pusher's and terrorist's.
Ripping stuff is not cool. Well not in my books, anyway. Not if you intend to post it on the internet. Not simply for the legal side but just for how it makes the original artists and contributors to that game really feel. I'm sure some do see the funny side of it but for others - and often in this fragile environment of commercial experimentation - they probably get pissed off. I'd also prefer a community that took to its own side once in a while and defended such mis-use on a friend or respect basic, but that's asking a lot of simply anyone that could be "trying out game making using AGS" these days. Parodies are un-deniably hillarious...take Scary Movie for example. There's bound to be at least one single scene from all the movies that makes you smile. But everything is afresh. It respects the originals at the same time as poking fun at them. & that's the kind of parody I might consider playing. It may be maaaaany years before I actually play Al Emmo, but when I do, despite what I might dislike about it I will regard the teams work as excellent, and be thankful for the amount of effort they have still put into it. And I'd respect that of anyone really, that can do as much. And that's saying something about people that
don't make parodies and still get great games finished too! And lame ones!
At the end of the day I think Nostradamus makes a very good point:
QuoteWhy make a parody aboiut an unreleased game anyway? who would understand the parody... ?
Finally, my thought on this thread. Let's just say if I saw a FoY parody, I would at first be pissed off. I'm sure anybody would, even if you'd just announced BOB TEH TURD HEAD in Games in Production and three ms-paint days later someone has bloody released a parody of your bestest biggest game you were ever going to make, etcaers... Um. So like things like Princess Marion and the Fountain of Unicorns - that's cool, it's kind of nice. But your game comprised of my screenshots page. Come on - that's low. And screen-capping a game...
I think if the developers of Al Emmo are offended by this parody, we should respect their wishes of whether it stays or gos. I don't think the mods really mind it being here, and I'll live with it - but I'd rather the developers of the real product were actually themselves, happy.
Quote from: m0ds on Thu 07/09/2006 02:48:05
Let's just say if I saw a FoY parody, I would at first be pissed off.
Does this mean I need to take down Princess Marian and the Fountain of Unicorns? ;)
Doesnt the fact that people keep posting in here give more attraction to this game? ???
Just my thought, anyway.
I agree with m0ds on this.
And I personally will as soon as I can afford it buy the original game.
When I will be able to play It I dunno :o.
I guess I will be playing it when I need a break from my upcomming game ;D.
srry for any offtopic here.
I dislike it when people put up the whole "BUT EET EES HURTING UUSSSS" charade. It is NOT hurting you and it will not. How many people do you think will get to know about Al Emmo on these websites? How many of them will buy it? It's a pretty low number, most likely, since most of your buyers will come from the bigger adventure gaming-related sites. And if they already KNOW about the game (which I assume), then how the hell are they going to be fooled into thinking a free, tiny, differently-named game, which, when played, OBVIOUSLY isn't your game, is in all actuality, your game?
This game is no threat. It's not a threat at all. It's nothing. Nothing but a somewhat enjoyable pun as the title, that is ;)
I'd suggest to drop the discussion. When you don't like something on the internet, you got a problem. The internet is a place where it's incredibly difficult to get information OFF without either a lawsuit or physically incapacitating the perp. If it's removed here, it'll pop up somewhere else all the sooner. When you find something on the web which annoys you, just ignore it. It's the only thing that seems to work :P
My impression(?):
An ex-member or the like makes a deliberate attempt at pissing off AGDI, and so they want to get back at him by having the El Ammo-threads removed as soon as they appear.
Perfectly understandable, from a revenge-, we'll-triumph-in-the-end-POV. (And I'm with you here.)
When I first saw the thread's title, I indeed confused it with Al Emmo, probably because I read whole sentences, not letter for letter. However it took me only 3-4 seconds to realize that this isn't the real thing.
the issue here isn't a parody game. this isn't really a problem.
not that this could actually be considered as a parody. more a tiny fan game.
the issue is the stealing of copyrighted backgrounds. which should not be allowed.
Then we have a lot of fan games we'll have to shut down and delete their threads and remove them from the games database.
I still feel that it is rather ill intended towards the real game.
A parody should come out after the game was released, and not a coupld of days before.
I just doesn't feel right.
Still the (Parody) in the thread name is something.
Maybe we should just let the thread die instead of arguing? That could serve all of us who agree or disagree. :)
There are no rules WHEN something should be released. It's all arbitrary and personal reasoning I see here.
It's up to the mods, they decided (so far) to keep it. Deal, close this, or ignore this, just stop whining :P
who cares?
someone ripped some art for a parody.
who gives a fuck?
he's not getting any money from it and he's not releasing the game illegally so just shut up
Look, I played the game and I found it to be a harmless parody. The original game, Al Emmo, is game of much better quality. The graphics are low res in this - and it's not even an adventure. It's like "Hogan's Alley", really.
I don't think this will have any negative effect on Al Emmo.
Bt
For now I shall lock this thread, as it's beginning to go around in circles.
Also Hammerite, you should consider adjusting your attitude to one that is more suitable for a mature, friendly forum, as such a tone of post is completely unnecessary here.