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Title: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 24/09/2015 13:43:15
Ok this is the rumpus room but if this is TOO damn stupid just delete it! :D But when an update/install or whatever has that progressbar and it says 100% complete but you still must wait. That's what really grinds my gears! (Yeah family guy reference there) Maybe I should keep this thread to have a new grind every week!!!! Anyone with me? Check in for next weeks complaints!!!! :D
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Thu 24/09/2015 14:23:05
Or where it gets to 90% really fast then crawls to the end! It should be a consistent speed throughout! And the "time left" always fluctuates or is completely wrong!
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 24/09/2015 15:19:51
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Thu 24/09/2015 14:23:05
And the "time left" always fluctuates or is completely wrong!

I always picture a talk-show host saying:

"Do we have time for the clip before the commercial break? We do? Oh wait, my producer is telling me we don't. (CLIP STARTS) Well it looks like we do...(CLIP GETS YANKED)...Apparently we don't so we'll see you back here right after these wor...(COMMERCIAL BREAK STARTS)"
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 24/09/2015 16:32:50
Yeah! I hate being lied to! if it is 100% done so be done, don't be playing with my feelings like that!!!! How can I be sure of anything in life if I can't trust an installer/updater progressbar? :D
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: AnasAbdin on Thu 24/09/2015 17:17:05
Well if it's any compensation, the 5yo in me still laughs at the 69% (laugh)
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 24/09/2015 17:51:12
It IS a little consolation but still! haha :D
Title: Re: Ok that was one too many times!
Post by: ManicMatt on Fri 25/09/2015 22:20:08
This thread name needs to be changed to "what grinds your gears?"

How about status downloadinh bars that say "5 hours left" and keeps changing its mind. Uh.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Fri 13/11/2015 22:40:49
I got a new one...People who drives away so god damn slow from a red light when it turns green, resulting in me having to stop for another red light. That seriously pisses me off more than old people who takes forever to finish shopping in the food store when they dig after money for the clerk and in the middle of it must tell a boring, f*****g story about their dirty mutt(often a poodle) who keeps barking outside thinking it's a badass rabid mutant even though you could easily whack it to the moon with a rolled up newspaper!!!! Yeah that's what grinds my gears this evening :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: LindaBelle on Wed 06/01/2016 13:08:03
Let the developers see how they should show the loading line! :) :=
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on Wed 06/01/2016 16:12:03
People don't jumping out of my way whenever I'm driving on the footpath at high speeds, resulting in me seriously injuring and/or killing them!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stromvin on Wed 06/01/2016 17:01:38
well for installations and updates time is indeed relative. To a Point where it goes backwards. I called this Windows time once, until i discovered steam...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 15/01/2016 14:03:12
In Pixar's "Cars" movies...

WHY DO THE CARS HAVE DOORS?!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Fri 15/01/2016 14:45:15
I enjoyed the The Force Awakens (having finally got to see it), but... big finale is to destroy a weapon inside what looks like a Death Star (albeit a bigger version) - AGAIN?!?!?  I mean, really?  Could they not have thought of something else?

There was a lot I liked about the movie, but it did all just feel a little too derivative.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 15/01/2016 15:15:48
Quote from: CaptainD on Fri 15/01/2016 14:45:15
I enjoyed the The Force Awakens (having finally got to see it), but... big finale is to destroy a weapon inside what looks like a Death Star (albeit a bigger version) - AGAIN?!?!?  I mean, really?  Could they not have thought of something else?

There was a lot I liked about the movie, but it did all just feel a little too derivative.

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Yeah, that was annoying...But I felt it was more a subplot in a movie that had 3-4 other plots going on at the same time...All of which I greatly enjoyed so I could overlook the obvious "HEY WE ARE STAR WARS AGAIN!!! NOT THAT OTHER SHITE THAT YOU GOT BORED BY IN THE LAST THREE MOVIES!" callout to the fans...

(Let's not even mention the fact that they were attacking a HUGE target like an acre wide over and over to detonate the thing...There wasn't even the suspense of the "impossible shot" that needed a pilot wielding the force to pull it off...Maybe next time just a big red button saying "DO NOT PUSH THE BUTTON!!!"?! One little "easter egg"? I did notice during the attack was that they call in "Red 4 & Red 6" like as if "Red 5" is a revered and retired number kinda like "42" in American baseball...Nice touch I thought...)

I thought they should have gone a step further and have had the attack FAIL (the "target" was a decoy) and the "Death Star" fully charge and wipe out the rebels' outpost...

And screw General Organa...She should have known better to get herself in the same situation twice and expect the same happy outcome...

So...the next movie would be just the last few remaining Jedi, without any rebel support, trying to bring down the entire "First Order" ...cough..."Empire"....all on their own...

Now...wouldn't THAT be a much more exciting story?!

I honestly felt NOTHING when that thing blew up...BUT the rest of the movie was awesome!
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Fri 15/01/2016 17:39:28
The whole thing just seemed like an homage to the original trilogy, almost every scene! Still very enjoyable though.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Tue 19/01/2016 08:04:41
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 15/01/2016 15:15:48
Quote from: CaptainD on Fri 15/01/2016 14:45:15
I enjoyed the The Force Awakens (having finally got to see it), but... big finale is to destroy a weapon inside what looks like a Death Star (albeit a bigger version) - AGAIN?!?!?  I mean, really?  Could they not have thought of something else?

There was a lot I liked about the movie, but it did all just feel a little too derivative.

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Yeah, that was annoying...But I felt it was more a subplot in a movie that had 3-4 other plots going on at the same time...All of which I greatly enjoyed so I could overlook the obvious "HEY WE ARE STAR WARS AGAIN!!! NOT THAT OTHER SHITE THAT YOU GOT BORED BY IN THE LAST THREE MOVIES!" callout to the fans...

(Let's not even mention the fact that they were attacking a HUGE target like an acre wide over and over to detonate the thing...There wasn't even the suspense of the "impossible shot" that needed a pilot wielding the force to pull it off...Maybe next time just a big red button saying "DO NOT PUSH THE BUTTON!!!"?! One little "easter egg"? I did notice during the attack was that they call in "Red 4 & Red 6" like as if "Red 5" is a revered and retired number kinda like "42" in American baseball...Nice touch I thought...)

I thought they should have gone a step further and have had the attack FAIL (the "target" was a decoy) and the "Death Star" fully charge and wipe out the rebels' outpost...

And screw General Organa...She should have known better to get herself in the same situation twice and expect the same happy outcome...

So...the next movie would be just the last few remaining Jedi, without any rebel support, trying to bring down the entire "First Order" ...cough..."Empire"....all on their own...

Now...wouldn't THAT be a much more exciting story?!

I honestly felt NOTHING when that thing blew up...BUT the rest of the movie was awesome!
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Don't you mean only an acre wide. I mean that thing was the size of a planet with it's own atmosphere and they destroyed it with a few shots from a couple of TIE fighters aiming at... what exactly?
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That said, I thought the film was cracking. I can't call myself a Star Wars fan to be honest but EpVII certainly satisfied my film going needs.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Tue 19/01/2016 18:44:17
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Don't you mean only an acre wide. I mean that thing was the size of a planet with it's own atmosphere and they destroyed it with a few shots from a couple of TIE fighters aiming at... what exactly?
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I know I was way too concentrated in making sure my bladder didn't explode (needed to visit the toilet for about the last hour of the movie (roll) )... but wasn't that what Han and Chewie were doing? Placing explosives to blow the "core"(?)??? Wasn't that the blew the planet, not the tie-fighters?
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Wed 20/01/2016 17:46:17
Over the last few years I've noticed in every film or TV show, and I mean EVERY SINGLE BLOODY ONE! Whenever a character hits his head or an explosion occurs, all sound becomes muddy and they play a high pitched ringing sound. It makes me cringe and cover my ears, can't stand it!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 21/01/2016 10:35:31
One thing that really grinds my gears is...you are in the shop and have a sweet tooth like out of this world...you start taking your favourites from the "take whatever you want then we wheigh and you pay"-section. There is one type of candy that co sists of puffed rice covered in chocolate....so i scoop up a lot...just to realise when i come home....it's god damn chocolate covered raisins. Raisins...the retarded,inbred cousin of the tasty grape. How the hell can you make something so disgusting from a grape?!?! Anyway...that ruins my day completely and that people, is what grinds my gears!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Erenan on Fri 22/01/2016 18:02:34
It grinds my gears when people dislike raisins.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: selmiak on Sat 23/01/2016 02:35:40
It grinds my gears when people dislike people disliking raisins.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Tue 26/01/2016 10:02:16
+1 selmiak :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Tue 26/01/2016 10:34:01
When once great series like Star Wars and Star Trek are made into action films so that the bubblegum that sticks to your shoe can follow along.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Tue 26/01/2016 11:01:22
Bill
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Sun 31/01/2016 11:48:41
How about when you pay for a DVD or cinema ticket, then they force you to watch a video on how piracy is evil and supports terrorism. I'm obviously not supporting piracy when I've PAID for the pissing thing!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: miguel on Sun 31/01/2016 12:00:41
People that do not close doors after they leave a room when they had to open it to get in.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: JamesGoblin on Wed 03/02/2016 05:05:40
Games without Goblins race really grind my gears.

For Jebus sake, this is 21st century!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 04/02/2016 06:20:53
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Sun 31/01/2016 11:48:41
How about when you pay for a DVD or cinema ticket, then they force you to watch a video on how piracy is evil and supports terrorism. I'm obviously not supporting piracy when I've PAID for the pissing thing!

Well, to be fair: You could potentially be watching a pirated copy of the DVD including the "No piracy" video, and theoretically the video could make you feel guilty and you might stop watching...

What I really HATE on DVDs that I have bought is the ones that will not let me skip the ads for other movies at the start and go straight to the menu. I can understand if it's a rental, but if I shelled out the money to buy the damn thing why should I be forced to watch the ads?!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Thu 04/02/2016 09:35:58
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 04/02/2016 06:20:53
Well, to be fair: You could potentially be watching a pirated copy of the DVD including the "No piracy" video, and theoretically the video could make you feel guilty and you might stop watching...

No ripper would leave that video in.

I really hate DRM on games for the same reason: It treats the customer like a criminal, and most of the time ensures that the pirate gets a better product.

Steam games for instance always need to be updated after installation, if you're lucky enough to be able to even install the game from the disc you bought and not have to download the whole thing. Where I live the download for the forced updates have sometimes cost me more than the game did.

GTAV is the worst offender here. Every time I've wanted to drop in and play for a bit there was at least a 500MB forced update (sometimes two), which more often than not was a multiplayer map I would never see. You can't even play it without an internet connection, for no good reason. It finally screwed me over enough that I decided to install the pirated version, and you know what? I've been having a blast in GTAV lately.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 06/03/2016 22:26:29
This didn't grind my gears as much as gave me an irritated chuckle:

From today's news:

QuoteThe former President first announced last August that a deadly form of skin cancer, melanoma, which was first found in his liver, had spread to his brain. Carter initially said he thought he had only weeks to live when he first learned of the diagnosis. He left his fate "in the hands of God, whom I worship."

Carter was treated via surgery, radiation and a relatively new form of immunotherapy.

Somebody call the pope! IT'S A MIRACLE OF DIVINE INTERVENTION!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 09/03/2016 10:08:42
It grinds my gears when movies end with the hero, being a hero, tries to save the villain, only for the villain to try to back-stab the hero immediately after so that the hero is forced to kill the villain anyway, rendering the whole scene pointless. So, instead of showing how good and compassionate the hero is, the writers just ended up with the moral of the story that you shouldn't forgive your enemies, and that showing any kind of mercy is a stupid thing to do that will only backfire. (wtf)

And all those writers apparently thought that this was a way better and more original end than I don't know, have the hero defeat the bad guy in a fair fight? The hero openly admitting that the bad guy is evil and must be put down? Have the villain genuinely repent?
No, the antagonist pulling a gun on his rescuer while he's being rescued is way, way more clever!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 09/03/2016 17:01:11
Quote from: Blondbraid on Wed 09/03/2016 10:08:42
It grinds my gears when movies end with the hero, being a hero, tries to save the villain, only for the villain to try to back-stab the hero immediately after

Toy Story 3 pulled it off though
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 09/03/2016 17:43:14
Quote from: Mandle on Wed 09/03/2016 17:01:11
Toy Story 3 pulled it off though
Yes, a few movies did manage to do this in a good way that didn't feel like an obvious cliché. I think tropes are to movies what pig-guts are to hot dogs, and integral part for the structure, but you shouldn't constantly remind the consumer of their presence.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sun 24/07/2016 12:12:14
When you're out driving. Someone comes up behind you and stays there. Just a few inches/centimeters behind you so if you suddenly had to stop, you'd probably get a free whiplash as well. You slow down so they can drive past you but nooo. They also slow down instead.. Oooohhhhh how it grinds my gears :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sun 24/07/2016 12:21:08
It's called tailgating and they are doing it on purpose. Usually accompanied by a german luxury car or an suv. Since everything these people do in their lives is about seeking attention, the best thing you can do is to ignore them. This little man BS is pretty much the extent of their abilities.

I really hate it when I microwave something for many minutes, have to wait a minute for the plate to cool down enough to touch it, I sit down to eat and get a mouthful of cold food.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sun 24/07/2016 13:27:08
Quote from: Jack on Sun 24/07/2016 12:21:08
I really hate it when I microwave something for many minutes, have to wait a minute for the plate to cool down enough to touch it, I sit down to eat and get a mouthful of cold food.

That's because: You are suppose to use a MW plate and mix/move your food half way. (roll)

And on this subject, I really hate it when ppl can't operate or understand how a MW works!
I have colleagues that will put their food on top of mine because "we can just warm it at the same time!" Ack! We can't! Others can't figure out how to turn it on "How do I start this?"... Open the MW when it's running, realizing it's occupied and then either remove my food out (and when I complain say "Oh, but it wasn't running!" Yes it was!) or just close the door again, but not press the start button so it'll continue warming my food. And then we have one with just a round button to set the timer... some just get them rotate it all the way round (60 minutes), out they're food in... take it out after a minute or two... close the door and let the thing work the next 58 minutes empty. 8-0 I swear they going to burn the house down one day!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sun 24/07/2016 13:59:53
That microwave thing yeah!!! The tailgaiting...well it has usually been older people doing it actually...not those who think they are cool and funny. No matter who, it still is a major annoyance :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sun 24/07/2016 14:09:20
People who step of the escalator and then decide to stand still, despite the fact there is a MOVING STAIRCASE FULL OF PEOPLE COMING UP BEHING YOU, OLD FARTS!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 25/07/2016 10:27:01
When you're about to cross the road and see a car coming. So you wait for them to pass but they instead take a turn, and you're just cursing to yourself "use your bloody indicators! They're for pedestrians too you idiot!". >:(
And then of course the car straight behind them doesn't want to turn, so you have to wait a bit longer for that car to pass as well. And then there's another car. And another.
In short, I wish there were traffic lights at that crossroads.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 25/07/2016 15:47:44
The media is grinding my gears at the moment with all the panic-mongering (read: click-baiting) over how Pokemon GO is making the streets so unsafe for everyone.

Even my wife/friends are tsk-tsking when they hear each new incident, and they just roll their eyes when I point out that people were ALWAYS looking at their phones when walking/driving: It's just that incidents/accidents involving these mundane phone abuses are not newsworthy unless the person happened to be playing Pokemon GO.

And their eyes glaze over when I say "Hey, at least Pokemon GO makes them look around at their environment a bit...Unlike Candy Crush/Angry Birds/etc etc..."

Phew...I feel so much better now with that off my chest!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: SinSin on Fri 29/07/2016 17:23:56
My children when they don't listen for the 1000000th time Grind my gears !!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 31/07/2016 15:20:49
Quote from: SinSin on Fri 29/07/2016 17:23:56
My children when they don't listen for the 1000000th time Grind my gears !!

I just got back from a 5 day summer camp with kids and I soooooo hear your gear grinding syncing with mine...

My conclusion:

The current exchange rate between actual personal experience and adult-given advice is exactly at a 1 to 1000000 ratio for all new humans on planet Earth...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 03/08/2016 16:05:55
It grinds my gears when I promise myself I will work on game dev of unfinished projects during my summer break and then I download Civ 2 for the 20th time and play it constantly for 3 days...

It really is the smack addiction...Once you've mainlined Civ 2 there is no going back...It waits for years, like a stealthy ninja monkey on your back, and then it strikes again!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: selmiak on Wed 03/08/2016 20:46:14
Civ is such a timesink! And there is a civ6 coming out in october, so you're safe until then... somehow...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 04/08/2016 00:58:46
Quote from: selmiak on Wed 03/08/2016 20:46:14
Civ is such a timesink! And there is a civ6 coming out in october, so you're safe until then... somehow...

I've tried Civ 3 & 4 but, even though they looked better, I always found the gameplay of 2 to be much better. It just seems they were adding stuff that made the game more complicated but didn't really add anything much of worth to the gameplay (like those stupid leaders and armies...urgh)... So yeah, I've always gone back to 2.

I will be interested to take a look at 6 though...see where they've gone with it...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 04/08/2016 10:30:35
Quote from: selmiak on Wed 03/08/2016 20:46:14
Civ is such a timesink! And there is a civ6 coming out in october, so you're safe until then... somehow...
Wait, another one already? 8-0
Didn't they release civ5 only a few years ago?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 04/08/2016 10:39:50
Ohh Mandle...Mandle............Mandle. That is a serious offense!!!! :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Fri 12/08/2016 18:21:37
Here's a petty pet peeve: "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" is fine as a general expression of fed-up-ness, but it's wrong as a quote from the movie Network. It should be "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Andail on Fri 12/08/2016 19:25:54
While Civ 2 is arguably the instalment I've spent the most time on, it did have some weaknesses that annoyed me, for instance how so many other civs would constantly be angry with you and gang up on you as soon as you grew somewhat powerful (while they treated rivalling computer civs with utter respect when they grew bigger).

It's extremely hard designing a good A.I for games like Civ, because you have to kind of compensate for the player being able to constantly save and load. That's why they're given rule-changing advantages (like how they can suddenly produce 15 tanks the round after you declare, when previously they had none). For this reason, it'd be better not to give the player any savegames at all; then they'd be forced to play carefully and think through all diplomatic actions.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Fri 12/08/2016 19:41:39
Oh oh people who say should of or would of p####s me off big time. SHOULD HAVE and WOULD HAVE....god damn it :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: straydogstrut on Fri 12/08/2016 20:35:30
Quote from: Stupot+ on Sun 24/07/2016 14:09:20
People who step of the escalator and then decide to stand still, despite the fact there is a MOVING STAIRCASE FULL OF PEOPLE COMING UP BEHING YOU, OLD FARTS!
That's why in London you stand on the right, walk on the left. I thought it was silly when I first moved here; now I realise it's such a time saver.

What grinds my gears is when people use the extra s after an apostrophe on words ending in s when showing possession. I know there's more than one opinion on its use, including whether to use it after only common nouns or proper nouns, so some of you will disagree with me, but when your primary school teacher crosses out your entire homework for using apostrophes everywhere that leaves a mark..

For me it will always be Bridget Jones' Diary
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on Fri 12/08/2016 23:42:46
Quote from: straydogstrut on Fri 12/08/2016 20:35:30
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Quote from: Stupot+ on Sun 24/07/2016 14:09:20
People who step of the escalator and then decide to stand still, despite the fact there is a MOVING STAIRCASE FULL OF PEOPLE COMING UP BEHING YOU, OLD FARTS!
That's why in London you stand on the right, walk on the left. I thought it was silly when I first moved here; now I realise it's such a time saver.

What grinds my gears is when people use the extra s after an apostrophe on words ending in s when showing possession. I know there's more than one opinion on its use, including whether to use it after only common nouns or proper nouns, so some of you will disagree with me, but when your primary school teacher crosses out your entire homework for using apostrophes everywhere that leaves a mark..
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For me it will always be Bridget Jones' Diary

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Bridget Jones's Diary
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on Sat 13/08/2016 06:01:59
Quote from: Adeel on Fri 12/08/2016 23:42:46

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Bridget Jones's Diary
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Bridget Jones's's Diary
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sat 13/08/2016 11:18:49
Quote from: Gurok on Sat 13/08/2016 06:01:59
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Bridget Jones's's Diary
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Bridget Jones's's's Diary
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Ok, this is starting to sound a bit like someone with a lisp now.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: selmiak on Sat 13/08/2016 13:03:23
Quote from: Danvzare on Sat 13/08/2016 11:18:49
Quote from: Gurok on Sat 13/08/2016 06:01:59
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Bridget Jones's's Diary
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Bridget Jones's's's Diary
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Ok, this is starting to sound a bit like someone with a lisp now.

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Bridget Jones's's's Diary's Secrets
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sun 14/08/2016 17:26:09
It really annoys me that whenever someone complains about something, someone sooner or later will say
"And what about the starving children in Africa?", or something similar.

Say a restaurant serves you an under-cooked, inedible meal and expect you to pay for it.
"The starving children in Africa would be very happy for that food, you know."

Your favorite TV-show or movie gets replaced by an awful reboot?
Why nag about that when there are starving children in Africa?

You can barely survive on your wage and are struggling to make ends meet?
It's still more than the kids starving to death in Africa have.

If you actually ask these people to actually donate something to charity, or even just name one country in Africa however, it's not really that important or urgent anymore. (wrong)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 15/08/2016 02:28:22
Blondbraid...

Don't you know that other kids are starving in Japan?

:-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on Mon 15/08/2016 16:37:08
A personal favorite of mine was a friend's father that (loosely translated) used to say:

"Shame on you! Meanwhile there are children in Africa that go to bed barefoot"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 15/08/2016 17:21:45
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 15/08/2016 02:28:22
Blondbraid...

Don't you know that other kids are starving in Japan?

:-D
Quote from: CaesarCub on Mon 15/08/2016 16:37:08
A personal favorite of mine was a friend's father that (loosely translated) used to say:

"Shame on you! Meanwhile there are children in Africa that go to bed barefoot"
Yeah, the "Others have it worse" argument is an old one, and it isn't limited to African kids. Some old people also invoke the "You don't understand how much worse it was when I was your age!" card.

However, I once saw a pretty hilarious rebuttal to that:

Kid: I don't like this bread!
Grumpy old person: When I was your age, I would have been happy to get such bread.
Kid: This bread was probably fresh back then.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 15/08/2016 17:30:42
Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 15/08/2016 17:21:45
Some old people also invoke the "You don't understand how much worse it was when I was your age!" card.

That reminds me of something that grinds my gears. Everyone thinks that everyone older than them is dumber because they're old and aren't in touch with what's new, and everyone thinks that everyone younger than them is dumb, because they're young and never experienced these things that you take for granted, back when they were new.
And as a result, we've got everyone saying how things were better in their day, and perpetuating myths that our ancestors were dumb for thinking the world was flat.

People who are younger than you aren't dumb. People who are older than you aren't dumb. You aren't dumb. Things just change!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on Mon 15/08/2016 19:12:58
Quote from: CaesarCub on Mon 15/08/2016 16:37:08
"Shame on you! Meanwhile there are children in Africa that go to bed barefoot"
Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 15/08/2016 17:21:45
Yeah, the "Others have it worse" argument is an old one, and it isn't limited to African kids. Some old people also invoke the "You don't understand how much worse it was when I was your age!" card.

The thing about this is that most people go to bed barefoot, but it does look like a classic "you don't know how good you have it" phrase.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Mon 15/08/2016 21:21:05
I give to Save the Children every month, does that mean I'm allowed to use the Africa line? :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 16/08/2016 01:25:36
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 15/08/2016 02:28:22
Blondbraid...

Don't you know that other kids are starving in Japan?

:-D

Actually...I was just quoting Weird Al...

I guess I should have added "Eat It!"...

(Selfie-quote FTW!)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 17/08/2016 16:07:04
Along the same lines, the whole 'First world problems' thing is starting to get old.
It was funny when it was just a meme and a way of reminding ourselves to maybe not take certain problems so seriously when we should be thankful for our privileges. But now you can't express any kind of frustration without someone going 'first world problems, first world problems'

What's worse is that we now say it ourselves, almost apologetically. "Grrr, the internet's packed in and I can't watch Better Call Saul... I know, first world problems and all that, silly me, ha ha"

No. Don't apologise. You worked hard to afford your broadband and Netflix. Damn right you should be able to say "grrr" when you can't watch Better Call Saul.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Wed 17/08/2016 17:16:52
"First world problems"? That's definitely a first for me.... always heard of "third world problems" myself... (roll)(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 17/08/2016 23:46:30
Quote from: Stupot+ on Wed 17/08/2016 16:07:04
Along the same lines, the whole 'First world problems' thing is starting to get old.

Annoyed at Internet meme. #FWP
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 17/08/2016 23:59:51
Quote from: Snarky on Wed 17/08/2016 23:46:30
Annoyed at Internet meme. #FWP

(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 18/08/2016 10:54:44
Now that I think about it, isn't everything on this thread a first world problem?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Fri 19/08/2016 13:20:18
Yeah a first world problem is still a problem god damn it :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 19/08/2016 15:21:55
EXTREME CONTENT WARNING:
Spoiler

I so hate it when I have to walk barefoot from the dumped porta-potty where I live in the garbage mountains of my island home, while stepping on rusty hypodermic needles, just to get a bucket of water for myself and my six AIDS-orphaned siblings, only to find out weeks later that the water was infected with The Fiery Serpent, and now I have to wind the worms out of the skin ulcers on my baby sister for weeks on end around a little stick...

Yeah, yeah, I know: Third World Problems right?
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 19/08/2016 17:16:39
I hate it when people act childish and start deleting their posts! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on Fri 19/08/2016 19:08:49
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Fri 19/08/2016 17:16:39
I hate it when people act childish and start deleting their posts! >:(

It grinds my gears (and makes me quite sad) when age forgets how youth thinks!
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/GMv8dQ4.jpg)
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 19/08/2016 20:38:39
Are you implying I'm old? 8-0

Deleting ones post is like a 3 year old making a fit or a child saying "if I can't have that, so can't you!" (my 4 year old says it all the time!). So yeah, it's childish act.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: [delete} on Mon 22/08/2016 00:23:42
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[tramples on LEGO sets (https://s10.postimg.io/7uutni3rd/amy_vales2.png)]
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Mon 22/08/2016 18:53:32
LOL (laugh) (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 24/08/2016 14:53:35
IT GRINDS MY GEARS WHEN:

I go back to try and complete an AGS project from months ago and I fix all the problems, only to break everything, and then I have to revert to an earlier version where things worked pretty much, and then have to remember how I "fixed" everything, and then I break several things, and then...

I realise that all my gear grinding is totally my own fault for not being more organised in the first place...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Wed 24/08/2016 14:57:01
I hate it when I'm really close to the completion of a big project, really REALLY REALLY close, almost there, close enough to touch it, and then somehow... I'm not quite as nearly there as I thought I was. >:( 8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Wed 24/08/2016 16:57:18
Quote from: CaptainD on Wed 24/08/2016 14:57:01
I hate it when I'm really close to the completion of a big project, really REALLY REALLY close, almost there, close enough to touch it, and then somehow... I'm not quite as nearly there as I thought I was. >:( 8-0

+1 I feel your pain. (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 24/08/2016 18:48:06
Quote from: Mandle on Wed 24/08/2016 14:53:35
IT GRINDS MY GEARS WHEN:

I go back to try and complete an AGS project from months ago and I fix all the problems, only to break everything, and then I have to revert to an earlier version where things worked pretty much, and then have to remember how I "fixed" everything, and then I break several things, and then...

I realise that all my gear grinding is totally my own fault for not being more organised in the first place...
Wow, I've definitely been there.
Thankfully I've got a good memory, and can usually recall what I fixed and how I fixed everything. But there's always that niggling doubt in the back of my mind that I've forgotten something, and there's a rare bug just lurking about.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on Wed 24/08/2016 19:10:04
Quote from: Mandle on Wed 24/08/2016 14:53:35
IT GRINDS MY GEARS WHEN:

I go back to try and complete an AGS project from months ago and I fix all the problems, only to break everything, and then I have to revert to an earlier version where things worked pretty much, and then have to remember how I "fixed" everything, and then I break several things, and then...

I realise that all my gear grinding is totally my own fault for not being more organised in the first place...

This is why you should always comment. Whatever you do and as soon as you do, comment out everything. Explicitly state why and how you did something. Do this even if you're working alone. You'll only thank yourself later for doing this. Spending extra 5 minutes on commenting earlier will save you, say, 20 minutes of "reverting & remembering" later.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Crimson Wizard on Wed 24/08/2016 19:27:01
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 24/08/2016 18:48:06
Quote from: Mandle on Wed 24/08/2016 14:53:35
IT GRINDS MY GEARS WHEN:

I go back to try and complete an AGS project from months ago and I fix all the problems, only to break everything, and then I have to revert to an earlier version where things worked pretty much, and then have to remember how I "fixed" everything, and then I break several things, and then...

I realise that all my gear grinding is totally my own fault for not being more organised in the first place...
Wow, I've definitely been there.
Thankfully I've got a good memory, and can usually recall what I fixed and how I fixed everything. But there's always that niggling doubt in the back of my mind that I've forgotten something, and there's a rare bug just lurking about.


Two words: VERSION CONTROL (https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Getting-Started-About-Version-Controll).
I mean, come on, people are using these for decades now.

An example of my AGS module's demo game under the source control: https://bitbucket.org/ivan-mogilko/ags-script-demos/commits/all

An example of how your script changes look under source control: https://bitbucket.org/ivan-mogilko/ags-script-demos/commits/a53ee0fbdb827c7380a61af82cb9cf4d0141477e
(yes, it would certainly benefit from comments too, but I was too lazy that day :))


Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 24/08/2016 23:45:54
The embarrassing truth is that I did put comments on everything saying what it does...I just screwed up how it does it...

Cheers for that as well CW...I'll check it out...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 25/08/2016 11:13:25
When a game you looked forward to for a long time ends up sucking. Money spent on crap. That really grinds my gears. :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 25/08/2016 12:47:36
Quote from: Mouth for war on Thu 25/08/2016 11:13:25
When a game you looked forward to for a long time ends up sucking. Money spent on crap. That really grinds my gears. :-D

No Man's Sky?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Thu 25/08/2016 12:49:34
Quote from: Mouth for war on Thu 25/08/2016 11:13:25
When a game you looked forward to for a long time ends up

... not getting released.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: NickyNyce on Thu 25/08/2016 13:02:43
When you finally think it's time to try and make another game, sit at your computer, open your paint program, stare at the screen for 5 minutes and then say "I must be out of my mind" shut everything off and wonder how in the world I did it the last time.

Repeat this process every 2 weeks.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 25/08/2016 13:31:22
Not getting released...yeah that is a serious offense! And nicky i know exactly how you feel...i have 3 different projects and none will probably get finished. I hope my iso rpg will make it to the finishing line though but somehow I doubt it. I started a Jimmy the troublemaker sequel 3 times...so...yeah.. :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 29/08/2016 17:05:30
It grinds my gears knowing that there are countless unemployed but talented artists out there, yet Rob Liefield somehow got rich and famous drawing things like this:
(http://www.fanboy-confidential.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/anatomy.jpg)
(http://www.fanboy-confidential.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/faces.eg_.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 29/08/2016 18:09:06
Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 29/08/2016 17:05:30
It grinds my gears knowing that there are countless unemployed but talented artists out there, yet Rob Liefield somehow got rich and famous drawing things like this:

While I'll admit that some of that stuff is pretty horrible (I cannot at all parse how that Captain America picture is supposed to even...) : The dude probably delivers the material on time to meet the schedule(s) of the comic(s) he is working on and might not even be liking a lot of his finished works...

But in a fast commercial market like comics: An artist who can meet deadlines is more valuable than one who MUST correct their work to perfection before submitting it...

Sure...he will never be a legendary artist (Da Vinci couldn't work on anything to completion to meet his own satisfaction for shit)...But he is a working artist who gets his stuff out there...That deserves a bit of respect...

That being said: Yeah, it grinds my gears also that a lot of more talented artists can probably do the same, but just don't have the same connections...

They just have to work on getting them...It's a painful fact of the world we live in...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 29/08/2016 18:39:01
There are comic artists out there that are much worse.
I can't remember his name, but there's one guy who traces all of his work. He constantly traces his own work, which was usually traced from porn films. No joke.
I can't for the life of me remember his name though. ???
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 29/08/2016 19:02:54
Quote from: Danvzare on Mon 29/08/2016 18:39:01
There are comic artists out there that are much worse.
I can't remember his name, but there's one guy who traces all of his work. He constantly traces his own work, which was usually traced from porn films. No joke.
I can't for the life of me remember his name though. ???
Gerg Land by any chance? (roll)
(http://www.craveonline.com/images/stories/2011/2012/August/Comics/land628.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 29/08/2016 21:43:46
Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 29/08/2016 19:02:54
Gerg Land by any chance? (roll)
Based on those images, it looks like it. (nod)

I remember reading a huge argument between two people, about how one thought it was acceptable and the other didn't.
It was an entertaining read.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: nihilyst on Wed 31/08/2016 15:43:25
It grinds my gears that in Chrome, I cannot go to the last page with backspace anymore. It was so convenient, and ALT + left cursor isn't.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 01/09/2016 01:22:09
What grinds my gears is crap like this CNN article. (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/31/europe/seti-signal-hd-164595-not-alien-civilization/index.html)

Seriously?! What's with all the unwanted and unfunny "humour" in this "science" piece?!

Is CNN accepting articles from high 16-year-olds now?!

(And, yeah, I know CNN is a crap news channel. I only go there for news because they have the resources to get breaking news stories up fast.)

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Thu 01/09/2016 20:46:17
How about spending a ton of money taking your family to the theme park, 60% of the time queuing for rides, then find out you have to pay for parking to escape the place!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: NickyNyce on Thu 01/09/2016 21:22:18
I now hate CNN. They are lying pieces of crap that edit and cut videos to tell their own stories. They promote hate and violence and for some reason love to hate on law enforcement. To hell with CNN!

https://youtu.be/OAEy5yjX4S8

This one really takes the cake. Instead of saying shame on this girl for the things she's saying, they make her out to be some promoter of peace.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Fri 02/09/2016 00:01:17
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 01/09/2016 01:22:09
What grinds my gears is crap like this CNN article. (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/31/europe/seti-signal-hd-164595-not-alien-civilization/index.html)

Seriously?! What's with all the unwanted and unfunny "humour" in this "science" piece?!

Is CNN accepting articles from high 16-year-olds now?!

(And, yeah, I know CNN is a crap news channel. I only go there for news because they have the resources to get breaking news stories up fast.)


I was actually surprised that he didn't add  (Not Kardashian) when it said Kardashev scale :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 02/09/2016 00:19:08
Quote from: Mouth for war on Fri 02/09/2016 00:01:17
I was actually surprised that he didn't add  (Not Kardashian) when it said Kardashev scale :D

You are SO right...Damn, the dude must have been off his game that day! :-D

He was probably shoved hot pizza in his mouth (I mean...WTF even was that joke?! And why did he think it worthy to become a running gag?! I suspect he actually had just burnt his mouth with hot pizza and pulled a Brick ("I love lamp") on us...More to the point I suppose is why are there even any gags, bad or good, running or otherwise...In a friggin' science piece that is not even about a slightly humourous topic?!)

And NickyNyce: I watched the relevant parts of that video and that is just simply despicable of CNN. I know their agenda to paint the police in a bad light and incite riots, because obviously riots sell news...But I thought it was just more slanted and not outright "Wag The Dog" type BS...

Anyways: I go to CNN only for the straight up facts, like a volcano errupted somewhere, and skip all the slanted political commentary. And that's because, like I mentioned before: CNN is fastest to break stories and show footage.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Fri 02/09/2016 00:27:09
Jokes has no place in science!!!! :D haha no but I agree, it was hard to take that serious.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 02/09/2016 00:38:54
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 01/09/2016 01:22:09
Is CNN accepting articles from high 16-year-olds now?!

According to his profile he "has been a writer, producer, field reporter and blogger for CNN since 2005." It doesn't say "failed stand-up" which I guess he edited out using his editing prowess.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 02/09/2016 01:24:45
Quote from: Mouth for war on Fri 02/09/2016 00:27:09
Jokes has no place in science!!!! :D haha no but I agree, it was hard to take that serious.

I wasn't meaning that science should be taken 100% seriously. I meant more that it's just such a weird choice to try and make this particular article into a comedy piece: Where's the comedic value in the underlying story? Is it that the scientists maybe got the origin of the signal wrong? That's the only thin premise for making it jokey that I can see, but his jokes aren't even about that!!! It's more like he was high and just making random connections and references for no reason...

And Stupot+: If this dude ever did a stand-up show I would SO want to see it just for the sheer awkwardness!!! That would be awesome!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 02/09/2016 01:34:56
It's a bit like most of our first attempts at an AGS game where we think we need to put a funny gag in every interaction.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 02/09/2016 03:56:39
Quote from: Stupot+ on Fri 02/09/2016 01:34:56
It's a bit like most of our first attempts at an AGS game where we think we need to put a funny gag in every interaction.

EXACTLY!!! A very good example indeed!!!

I still remember the worst from my first game:

If you tried using the fish on the sun the character said: "No, that could cause nuclear fish-sun and I've heard that's very dangerous!"

And I was so proud of that gag at the time: Now I just think about it and gag...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Fri 02/09/2016 06:40:49
What grinds my gears?

People who wear a big hat but produce nothing or very little (laugh)

In fact, anyone who wears a big hat but fails to deliver the goods (laugh)

People who promote very high-end yet end up with nothing (laugh)

When people don't take it as important/seriously as you (laugh)


Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Fri 02/09/2016 11:32:55
Haha, nice one. Today I was surprised that CNN treats their readers as the morons they are.

I mean it's not important that they and others like them are providing nothing more than a PR service (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/07/24/wikileaks-emails-pro-clinton-cnn-political-commentator-pre-checked-op-ed-with-dnc/), or have no journalistic skill or integrity (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/18/image-syrian-boy-desert-un-refugees-tweet).

But this.  8-0

It grinds my gears that the mainstream media don't produce quality content like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6gEQLTHev0) for their wars any more.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 02/09/2016 12:24:44
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 02/09/2016 03:56:39
If you tried using the fish on the sun the character said: "No, that could cause nuclear fish-sun and I've heard that's very dangerous!"
:-\ I don't get it.

As for what grinds my gears. Well, like all of you. The abysmal nature of how the news is reported, and that it's always doom and gloom. Then again, I never look at the news anyway, so what does it matter to me.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Fri 02/09/2016 12:55:49
Ever heard of Nuclear Fission Danvzare?
I think it's a funny joke, one of those so bad it's good jokes. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 02/09/2016 14:55:00
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Fri 02/09/2016 12:55:49
Ever heard of Nuclear Fission Danvzare?
I think it's a funny joke, one of those so bad it's good jokes. (laugh)
OH! 8-0
Now I get it!
I'ts a pun. I can't believe I didn't notice that. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 02/09/2016 15:45:47
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Fri 02/09/2016 12:55:49
I think it's a funny joke, one of those so bad it's good jokes. (laugh)

Hahaha...thanks for that...The game is FULL of them if anyone wants to cringe a little more: Just look at everything, interact with everything, and use everything on everything!

It was my first AGS game, and it has no sound effects or music as I did not know how to do those back then...

I released it about two weeks after downloading AGS. It was a student project in my school where the kids drew the characters and backgrounds in a single lesson of 3 hours and then I made it in AGS even though I had NO idea what I was doing (I even saved a variable in a character's 1% transparancy value as I didn't know about global variables and couldn't understand the right place to put a local variable)

I remember being so entranced about how I could draw walkbehinds around trees that were just paper glued onto paper in real life, and yet make it look like the character was going behind them: And that's probably the moment I became an AGS addict...

I'm still quite proud of it however despite its many, many, MANY flaws and if anyone wants to check it out:

CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD MY FIRST BIG ADVENTURE (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/1728/)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: AnasAbdin on Wed 07/09/2016 18:24:57
Probably those of you following me on twitter already saw it :P
What grinds my gears (in an adventure game) is when you forget to write down a randomly generated code in the beginning of a game that later near the end of the game you have to use it.

Space Quest XII
(http://i.imgur.com/NcztxrC.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Wed 07/09/2016 18:56:27
AHAHAAAAAAAHHHHh (laugh)(laugh)(laugh)(laugh) (nod)(nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Thu 08/09/2016 09:06:07
People who say "The US is a republic, not a democracy." ONE DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE OTHER! THE US IS CLEARLY BOTH!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 08/09/2016 13:21:47
Quote from: Snarky on Thu 08/09/2016 09:06:07
People who say "The US is a republic, not a democracy." ONE DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE OTHER! THE US IS CLEARLY BOTH!
I thought to be a democracy, you needed a republic? ???
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on Thu 08/09/2016 14:37:32
Danzvare, Britain is a democracy but not a republic.

The only time a republic and a democracy should preclude each other, however, is in a game of Civ 2 :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: arj0n on Thu 08/09/2016 15:06:45
A true democracy does simply not exist.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 08/09/2016 16:09:45
Quote from: Gurok on Thu 08/09/2016 14:37:32
The only time a republic and a democracy should preclude each other, however, is in a game of Civ 2 :P

ARRRGGGHHHH!!! Don't mention that awesome game or I might start wasting my time playing it again!

Even though that I have figured out that all upping the difficulty level does is give the AI opponents resource boosts and impossible abilities to regrow city levels, and replace lost troops instantly...

I mean...seriously?! I hit a level 10 city with a nuke, which should set it back to level 5, but on the next turn it's level 7, and then gains a level every turn until it's back to level 10 three turns later???!!!

AND can also manage to restock Alpine Troops every single turn??? Their economy is unbreakable!!!

Fair enough I suppose, considering that the AI is pretty stupid and wouldn't be much of a challenge otherwise: They mass their ship fleets and hover around one of my cities that is a square inland and that they can never attack...

If this otherwise perfect game could be rereleased by a fan/hacker which fixed all the AI bugs, made the opponents smarter instead of just giving them impossible buffs per difficultly level, and fixed the travesty of air units not being able to overfly enemy units without attacking them...

It could be the greatest simulation game ever made...

/Grinding my gears on a decades-old game...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 08/09/2016 16:28:49
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 08/09/2016 16:09:45
If this otherwise perfect game could be rereleased by a fan/hacker which fixed all the AI bugs, made the opponents smarter instead of just giving them impossible buffs per difficultly level, and fixed the travesty of air units not being able to overfly enemy units without attacking them...

It could be the greatest simulation game ever made...
Isn't that what Freeciv is?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 08/09/2016 22:13:39
It grinds my gears that animated movies still are considered dumb kiddie entertainment by the large masses.
Never mind that there are several good animated films out there which tackle difficult subjects in a more mature and artful way than most live-action movies,
the notion that animated is automatically kid-friendly have most likely made innocent kids suffer as well.

I have already read about traumatized kids being dragged out of theaters showing Sausage Party (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlzAJo16eww)... 8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 09/09/2016 11:16:13
Quote from: Blondbraid on Thu 08/09/2016 22:13:39
It grinds my gears that animated movies still are considered dumb kiddie entertainment by the large masses.
Never mind that there are several good animated films out there which tackle difficult subjects in a more mature and artful way than most live-action movies,
the notion that animated is automatically kid-friendly have most likely made innocent kids suffer as well.

I have already read about traumatized kids being dragged out of theaters showing Sausage Party (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlzAJo16eww)... 8-0
I can't agree with this enough!
That really grinds my gears as well. >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 09/09/2016 19:18:05
well... Princese Mononoke was rated +6 (or all ages, can't remember anymore) in Portugal. I went to see in at the cinema with a friend, and there were several parents with small children... let's just say that after about 2 minutes into the movie, most (if not all) parents with small children left! 8-0

I think the ppl rating looked at it and said "Cartoon movie... it's for kids!"... but they never even saw 5 minutes of it! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 09/09/2016 23:14:08
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Fri 09/09/2016 19:18:05
most (if not all) parents with small children left! 8-0

Of course! The Princess Mononoke movie is way too complex for little kids to be able to follow!

In much the same way, that Saving Private Ryan parody scene in Sausage Party would be totally wasted on them!

These are clearly NOT movies for kids!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 09/09/2016 23:59:37
In case you haven't seen the movie... the first few minutes, involves a battle with swords... and lot's of arms, legs, heads and other body parts being sliced and flying through the air... including the blood. :-\ Am pretty sure if they had seen it, they would have realized that kids needed to be a bit older for this.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Sat 10/09/2016 02:32:54
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Fri 09/09/2016 23:59:37
In case you haven't seen the movie... the first few minutes, involves a battle with swords... and lot's of arms, legs, heads and other body parts being sliced and flying through the air... including the blood. :-\ Am pretty sure if they had seen it, they would have realized that kids needed to be a bit older for this.

Love that sequence.  Wish I had seen that in cartoons as a child.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 10/09/2016 02:37:36
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Fri 09/09/2016 23:59:37
In case you haven't seen the movie... the first few minutes, involves a battle with swords... and lot's of arms, legs, heads and other body parts being sliced and flying through the air... including the blood. :-\ Am pretty sure if they had seen it, they would have realized that kids needed to be a bit older for this.

I've seen it about 6-7 times...I know you meant the violence...I was just being droll...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sat 10/09/2016 09:52:32
I remember watching Princess Mononoke. I can't remember how old I was. Probably around twelve. It was on TV in Japanese, and had subtitles.
I could barely follow the film (not because it was subtitled, I could read very well), so yeah, like Mandle says, way too complex of a plot for kids.

Quote from: Cassiebsg on Fri 09/09/2016 19:18:05
I think the ppl rating looked at it and said "Cartoon movie... it's for kids!"... but they never even saw 5 minutes of it! >:(
That annoys me so much. I mean, no one would look at South Park and say that!
And if you look at some really old cartoons, like the original Felix the Cat shorts, they're more adult themed than even South Park!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 10/09/2016 11:32:33
Quote from: Danvzare on Sat 10/09/2016 09:52:32
And if you look at some really old cartoons, like the original Felix the Cat shorts, they're more adult themed than even South Park!
Yes, I do feel that cartoons were indeed much, much darker before, because the cinemas often used to show short cartoons before
the feature-length movie back in the day, and many of them were geared towards adults.

One of the darkest movies I've seen was a wartime propaganda film titled Education for death (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l14WDZCnz-w), made by none other than Walt Disney.
And people today say Frozen is "dark" because the protagonists parents die off-screen and another character lies about being a nice guy. (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sun 11/09/2016 12:40:22
I didn't know this until recently, but this change was probably brought on by the motion picture production code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code), which was instituted by hollywood on 1930. This resulted in a collection of "pre-code" films which addressed race relations, drug use and sexuality with a freedom we have been slowly re-acquiring in recent decades.

It grinds my gears that: Things which take so long to build are so easy to ruin.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Mon 12/09/2016 11:24:44
I get a bit annoyed at myself when I hear certain songs so awfully terrible (not even a so bad it's good song), and it sticks in your head and you catch yourself singing it!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on Mon 12/09/2016 13:03:04
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Mon 12/09/2016 11:24:44
I get a bit annoyed at myself when I hear certain songs so awfully terrible (not even a so bad it's good song), and it sticks in your head and you catch yourself singing it!

Let it go! Let it go! Let it go! :=
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 12/09/2016 14:08:52
Quote from: Adeel on Mon 12/09/2016 13:03:04
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Mon 12/09/2016 11:24:44
I get a bit annoyed at myself when I hear certain songs so awfully terrible (not even a so bad it's good song), and it sticks in your head and you catch yourself singing it!

Let it go! Let it go! Let it go! :=

I'm not sure though if "Let It Go" fits the description of a terrible song...I would say it's one of Disney's best (The Lion King still rules supreme for the songs though in my book)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 12/09/2016 15:44:16
Quote from: Jack on Sun 11/09/2016 12:40:22
I didn't know this until recently, but this change was probably brought on by the motion picture production code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code), which was instituted by hollywood on 1930. This resulted in a collection of "pre-code" films which addressed race relations, drug use and sexuality with a freedom we have been slowly re-acquiring in recent decades.
I've read about the Hayes Code before, though I doubt that it's solely to blame since it applied to cartoons and live-action alike.
I'd say this also has a lot to do with media technology as well, since the introduction of daytime TV created a huge demand for family-friendly content, and the loosened restrictions of recent times goes hand in hand with internet becoming big and many people being able to share content without relying on studios and tv-companys.

Quote from: Mandle on Mon 12/09/2016 14:08:52
Quote from: Adeel on Mon 12/09/2016 13:03:04
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Mon 12/09/2016 11:24:44
I get a bit annoyed at myself when I hear certain songs so awfully terrible (not even a so bad it's good song), and it sticks in your head and you catch yourself singing it!

Let it go! Let it go! Let it go! :=

I'm not sure though if "Let It Go" fits the description of a terrible song...I would say it's one of Disney's best (The Lion King still rules supreme for the songs though in my book)
And speaking of cartoons, while I have to admit that I liked "Let it go", it grinds my gears that I still see stupid Frozen merchandise pushed in my face everywhere. People simply refuse to let it go!
It's not even a good movie! It has plotholes the size of China, the song the trolls sing is so awful it's even worse than vogon poetry and the animators didn't even bother to give the female characters different character models:
(http://66.media.tumblr.com/4763d808a457ab814b9631d02c4fc477/tumblr_inline_nri4px1Wlb1t9txgy_500.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 13/09/2016 11:01:40
What grinds my gears is that Frozen got ridiculously popular, yet almost no one ever mentions Wreck-It Ralph, despite the latter being a much better film in my opinion. So much better in fact, that it's actually getting a sequel! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Tue 13/09/2016 11:39:31
Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 12/09/2016 15:44:16
I've read about the Hayes Code before, though I doubt that it's solely to blame since it applied to cartoons and live-action alike.
I'd say this also has a lot to do with media technology as well, since the introduction of daytime TV created a huge demand for family-friendly content, and the loosened restrictions of recent times goes hand in hand with internet becoming big and many people being able to share content without relying on studios and tv-companys.

The death of cinematic cartoon shorts came about largely because a Supreme Court antitrust ruling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Paramount_Pictures,_Inc.) forced the separation of cinema chains from movie studios. In the old days, studios like Warner, MGM, Paramount, etc. owned the movie theaters and controlled the programming (so a particular cinema would show only films from a particular studio). The ruling meant they had to sell them off, and that there had to be an open market in deciding what each cinema would show. The court also started to enforce an earlier decision that it was illegal to "block-book" short films along with feature-length films (i.e. sell them as a package). This made them much harder to sell, since people didn't usually buy movie tickets for short films but for main features, so they were an obvious target for cinema chain cost-cutting (the movie business went into a major decline around this time). Within a few years they were all but gone.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on Tue 13/09/2016 11:47:12
Quote from: Danvzare on Tue 13/09/2016 11:01:40
What grinds my gears is that Frozen got ridiculously popular, yet almost no one ever mentions Wreck-It Ralph, despite the latter being a much better film in my opinion. So much better in fact, that it's actually getting a sequel! >:(

(http://i.marktplaats.com/00/s/NTc2WDEwMjQ=/z/PpYAAOSw6n5XrEBu/$_84.JPG)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Tue 13/09/2016 13:41:32
I thought Frozen was good, not necessarily outstanding.  It was phenomenally popular because it hit all the right social consciousness buttons at the right time.

Still haven't seen Wreck It Ralph (it's on my To Do list though!).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 13/09/2016 16:27:05
Quote from: CaptainD on Tue 13/09/2016 13:41:32
Still haven't seen Wreck It Ralph (it's on my To Do list though!).

Even if the movie doesn't do it for you...the credits will!!! And the movie will, but the credits even WILLER!!!

I feel confident saying this in this particular forum, without any further spoilers...

(I cried while smiling during the credits, and wished I had seen the movie on the big screen)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 13/09/2016 17:46:04
Quote from: Snarky on Tue 13/09/2016 11:39:31
The death of cinematic cartoon shorts came about largely because a Supreme Court antitrust ruling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Paramount_Pictures,_Inc.) forced the separation of cinema chains from movie studios. In the old days, studios like Warner, MGM, Paramount, etc. owned the movie theaters and controlled the programming (so a particular cinema would show only films from a particular studio). The ruling meant they had to sell them off, and that there had to be an open market in deciding what each cinema would show. The court also started to enforce an earlier decision that it was illegal to "block-book" short films along with feature-length films (i.e. sell them as a package). This made them much harder to sell, since people didn't usually buy movie tickets for short films but for main features, so they were an obvious target for cinema chain cost-cutting (the movie business went into a major decline around this time). Within a few years they were all but gone.
Most interesting, thanks for the read! (nod)

Quote from: CaptainD on Tue 13/09/2016 13:41:32
I thought Frozen was good, not necessarily outstanding.  It was phenomenally popular because it hit all the right social consciousness buttons at the right time.
That is also something which baffles me, since I can't really think of anything that Frozen did that other Disney/Pixar movies haven't done before. Compared with previous Disney movies, such as this scene from Pocahontas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2av9SQsMIi8) or The hunchback from Notre Dame (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3NoDEu7kpg),
I think Frozen is very tame and doesn't take any big risks. Even Wreck it Ralph and Zootopia handled issues like fear of others and alienation much, much better than Frozen.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Tue 13/09/2016 20:07:07
I think any Pixar film is worth watching!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on Tue 13/09/2016 20:12:36
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Tue 13/09/2016 20:07:07
I think any Pixar film is worth watching!

I'll take your word for it, but I'm still not watching Cars 2 (or Cars)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Tue 13/09/2016 21:53:46
I don't think Frozen really did anything drastically new, it just appealed to the prevailing mood of a lot of people when it came out, and this coupled with a lot of publicity blew the hype well out of proportion.  But I agree, there was little / nothing genuinely "new" in it.

Speaking of Zootopia - which I also enjoyed - did anyone feel it seemed more about sexism than racism, despite there being many obvious opportunities to deal with racism?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Tue 13/09/2016 23:09:21
I think you guys are overlooking some major elements of Frozen to say that there's nothing original in it. For example, that bit where one of the main characters goes pretty far down the road to become a villain, while the other tries to redeem her? You'll have to stretch quite a bit to find that in earlier Disney movies (Pinocchio and Lilo & Stitch probably come closest). The focus on sisterhood and rejection of Prince Charming are also firsts in a Disney movie, I believe.

My main beef with current Disney movies is simply that I wish they would go back to 2D animation, or at least animation with more of a 2D look. Ever since Tarzan and its Deep Canvas system, and then later with the Meander system used in "Paperman", they've had tools to do really nice painterly stuff that allows them to put hand-painted/drawn things into a 3D scene (though I didn't think "Feast" worked very well: basically just looked like cel-shaded 3D), but all feature movies have this cheap videogamey 3D look. I had hoped Moana would be 2D, since the Polynesian setting lends itself beautifully to more loosely painted backgrounds. Ah well.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Tue 13/09/2016 23:46:50
Quote from: Snarky on Tue 13/09/2016 23:09:21
The focus on sisterhood and rejection of Prince Charming are also firsts in a Disney movie, I believe.

Okay, possibly being a tad unfair with earlier comments - as mentioned I did enjoy the movie, just didn't think about it too hard maybe!

The feisty heroine bit had certainly been done before in Mulan, but I guess she in a way had a "Prince Charming".  I haven't seen all of them.  Nothing beats The Jungle Book for me!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 14/09/2016 01:17:51
I think half of the reason for Frozen's popularity at the box office was simply down to Let It Go. Which in my opinion is a very very good, almost perfect song (coming from someone who claims to hate Disney). It was just so damn overplayed people either went to watch the film because they were swept up in the hype (largely caused by the song) or they just thought going to see the film was the only option left other than suicide to try and get it out of their heads.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 14/09/2016 09:56:44
It grinds my gears when "What grinds my gears" turns into a discussion about which movies are good :-D (joking)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 14/09/2016 09:59:55
Quote from: CaptainD on Tue 13/09/2016 23:46:50
Quote from: Snarky on Tue 13/09/2016 23:09:21
The focus on sisterhood and rejection of Prince Charming are also firsts in a Disney movie, I believe.

Okay, possibly being a tad unfair with earlier comments - as mentioned I did enjoy the movie, just didn't think about it too hard maybe!

The feisty heroine bit had certainly been done before in Mulan, but I guess she in a way had a "Prince Charming".  I haven't seen all of them.  Nothing beats The Jungle Book for me!
Lilo and Stitch did the sister dynamic before, and Brave was also about the relation between two female family members, albeit a mother and daughter.
Even the rejection of Prince Charming and critique of Love at first sight was done before in Enchanted (Just compare this clip to Elsa/Hans meeting!) (https://youtu.be/tDutMRSmKVE?t=195).

The only thing that Frozen did first for a Disney movie was making the identity of the villain a surprise, and even then it feels like an afterthought tacked on at the last minute.
In my opinion, Frozen is like Cars, but for girls.

Quote from: Snarky on Tue 13/09/2016 23:09:21
My main beef with current Disney movies is simply that I wish they would go back to 2D animation, or at least animation with more of a 2D look. Ever since Tarzan and its Deep Canvas system, and then later with the Meander system used in "Paperman", they've had tools to do really nice painterly stuff that allows them to put hand-painted/drawn things into a 3D scene (though I didn't think "Feast" worked very well: basically just looked like cel-shaded 3D), but all feature movies have this cheap videogamey 3D look. I had hoped Moana would be 2D, since the Polynesian setting lends itself beautifully to more loosely painted backgrounds. Ah well.
Yes, it's a real shame you don't see many 2D movies being produced anymore, I remember growing up watching Disney and Don Bluth movies over and over again, I felt they looked like picture-books given life and they inspired me to draw things myself.
Most of the 3D movies just feel like they all look the same as well, there isn't really any big differences in style, only in budget and technology.

However, there is a good animated film of H.C Andersens tale The Snow Queen, made in Soviet Russia in 1957. It's 2D animated and stays pretty accurate to the original story as well.
Here is a link for the curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV1M1y595_U
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Wed 14/09/2016 10:54:31
Was "The Princess and the Frog" in 2009 the last 2D animated movie Disney did?  (That one was very good, but I can't remember any others since then.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: arj0n on Wed 14/09/2016 11:19:25
There were 6 more. Rremember Wreck-It Ralph? :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Wed 14/09/2016 13:29:13
Quote from: arj0n on Wed 14/09/2016 11:19:25
There were 6 more. Rremember Wreck-It Ralph? :)

2D! :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 14/09/2016 13:33:16
Quote from: Blondbraid on Tue 13/09/2016 17:46:04
I can't really think of anything that Frozen did that other Disney/Pixar movies haven't done before.
It demonstrated that family love, is another form of love. That's all it did differently. And even I'll admit I enjoyed that. :-D

Quote from: CaesarCub on Tue 13/09/2016 20:12:36
I'll take your word for it, but I'm still not watching Cars 2 (or Cars)
Speaking of Cars, I really wish that they would make a prequel Cars movie. I want to see a rusty Lightning McQueen trying to get his start as a racing car!
It's clearly hinted at in the first movie. I think it could actually make a decent movie.

Quote from: CaptainD on Tue 13/09/2016 21:53:46
Speaking of Zootopia - which I also enjoyed - did anyone feel it seemed more about sexism than racism, despite there being many obvious opportunities to deal with racism?
I enjoyed Zootopia too. Great film. Personally, I didn't feel as though it was a perfect analog for racism either. Especially with the predators which were not only the minority, but also the leaders and ones who get all the opportunities. And it seemed both predators and prey were equally speciesist to each other. So personally, I think they just wanted to create a realistic world of anthropomorphic animals.

Also, am I the only one who thinks "Let it go" should be sung as "Let it snow"?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 14/09/2016 15:24:05
Quote from: CaptainD on Tue 13/09/2016 23:46:50Nothing beats The Jungle Book for me!

That's one of my least favorite Disney animated features! I hate how it completely ditches all the coolest bits from the Jungle Book stories, how it's all just a long sequence of "and then Mowgli runs into some other wacky characters", the utterly underwhelming ending (with Shere Khan just running away after a short squabble) and the lazy recycling of the same animation over and over within the film (particularly egregious with Kaa and the elephants).

Quote from: Blondbraid on Wed 14/09/2016 09:59:55
Lilo and Stitch did the sister dynamic before, and Brave was also about the relation between two female family members, albeit a mother and daughter.
Even the rejection of Prince Charming and critique of Love at first sight was done before in Enchanted (Just compare this clip to Elsa/Hans meeting!) (https://youtu.be/tDutMRSmKVE?t=195).

True, Lilo & Stitch deals with sisterhood, but Lilo and Nani are much further apart in age, so it becomes something quite like a parent-child relationship. The Frozen version is pretty different.

There are definitely some parallels to Enchanted, but I don't count (mostly) live-action movies like that as part of the Disney animation canon.

Quote from: CaptainD on Wed 14/09/2016 10:54:31
Was "The Princess and the Frog" in 2009 the last 2D animated movie Disney did?  (That one was very good, but I can't remember any others since then.)

There was a Winnie the Pooh movie after that. It flew under the radar for some reason.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Wed 14/09/2016 16:10:08
Quote from: Snarky on Wed 14/09/2016 15:24:05
That's one of my least favorite Disney animated features! I hate how it completely ditches all the coolest bits from the Jungle Book stories, how it's all just a long sequence of "and then Mowgli runs into some other wacky characters", the utterly underwhelming ending (with Shere Khan just running away after a short squabble) and the lazy recycling of the same animation over and over within the film (particularly egregious with Kaa and the elephants).

It's hard to rationalise sometimes why you love a movie that you have loved since you were a kid - also whether you have read the book before or after seeing the movie makes a big difference.  I've always loved Phil Harris' voicing, Louis Prima's singing, the songs in general and the personality clash of Baloo and Bagheera.  Perhaps not the best if you look at it analytically, but it will always have a special place in my heart.

Quote from: Snarky on Wed 14/09/2016 15:24:05
There was a Winnie the Pooh movie after that. It flew under the radar for some reason.

Oh yeah forgot the Winne the Pooh movie.  I want to see that, although mainly because I know my kids will love it.  I've got the book of the movie which they enjoy having read to them, but it's basically recycling stuff from the old stories.  I seem to remember someone was tasked with creating new stories for the 100 Acre Wood gang, I wonder if any of those got made into animated films?


Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Wed 14/09/2016 19:00:44
Quote from: CaesarCub on Tue 13/09/2016 20:12:36
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Tue 13/09/2016 20:07:07
I think any Pixar film is worth watching!

I'll take your word for it, but I'm still not watching Cars 2 (or Cars)

Just remembered, stay away from Planes! That's the only Pixar film I thought was naff.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 14/09/2016 22:10:29
Quote from: CaptainD on Wed 14/09/2016 16:10:08
It's hard to rationalise sometimes why you love a movie that you have loved since you were a kid - also whether you have read the book before or after seeing the movie makes a big difference.  I've always loved Phil Harris' voicing, Louis Prima's singing, the songs in general and the personality clash of Baloo and Bagheera.  Perhaps not the best if you look at it analytically, but it will always have a special place in my heart.

Sure, and as far as I can tell it's pretty well regarded (as demonstrated by the live-action remake); my opinion is probably in the minority. The film does have some great songs, strong character design, fine animation and beautiful backgrounds.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 14/09/2016 23:38:43
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Wed 14/09/2016 19:00:44
Quote from: CaesarCub on Tue 13/09/2016 20:12:36
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Tue 13/09/2016 20:07:07
I think any Pixar film is worth watching!

I'll take your word for it, but I'm still not watching Cars 2 (or Cars)

Just remembered, stay away from Planes! That's the only Pixar film I thought was naff.

Planes is not actually a Pixar film:

QuoteAlthough Planes (2013) is a spin-off of the Pixar Animation Studios film, Cars (2006) and its sequel Cars 2 (2011), it was not produced by Pixar Animation Studios. It was produced by the DisneyToon Studios production company, known mostly for making direct-to-video spin-offs and sequels of Walt Disney Animation Studios films. However, John Lasseter (writer and director of both Cars movies) served as an executive producer.

And: just to be relevant to the thread:

What grinds my gears is the entire "Cars" movies' universe...

Who built all the buildings? Why are all animals mechanical but all plants are normal? Why are there farmlands? (okay...maybe corn for bio-fuel...) Where do the cars come from? Why is there a child car in Cars 2? (this implies they are born and grow up)...Also, we meet some characters' parents in Cars 2...Why am I complaining about the logic of movies that were obviously aimed at selling toys to kids (ever seen a kid with Lightning MacQueen on their shirt?...Okay: ever seen a kid with Carl from "Up" on their shirt?)...So yeah: gears ground!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 15/09/2016 10:42:26
Speaking of cars again. It really grinds my gears when a car is closing in on you at night and don't switch off the full headlight (not sure what the name for that is in english. Driving beam?) removes your vision completely!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 15/09/2016 11:12:59
Speaking of cars some more, it grinds my gears that some people have their headlights on when it's a bright and sunny morning, and some people don't put their headlights on when it's a dark and gloomy evening! >:(

I even suspect it might be the same backwards people.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: gameboy on Thu 15/09/2016 12:03:32
What really grinds my gears is that there are so many people who think it's perfectly okay to ding other car doors in parking lots. And even worse, park by feel. >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 15/09/2016 12:45:53
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 15/09/2016 11:12:59
Speaking of cars some more, it grinds my gears that some people have their headlights on when it's a bright and sunny morning...
Are they Volvos, by any chance? I'm sure I'll be corrected but I heard Volvos always have their headlights in because they are from Sweden, where the sun don't shine.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Thu 15/09/2016 12:55:45
Quote from: Stupot+ on Thu 15/09/2016 12:45:53
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 15/09/2016 11:12:59
Speaking of cars some more, it grinds my gears that some people have their headlights on when it's a bright and sunny morning...
Are they Volvos, by any chance? I'm sure I'll be corrected but I heard Volvos always have their headlights in because they are from Sweden, where the sun don't shine.

Yeah I learned to drive in a Volvo, and you couldn't turn the headlights off.  Same for Saab I think.  Can't remember if it was only Swedish cars though.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 15/09/2016 14:50:04
Quote from: Mouth for war on Thu 15/09/2016 10:42:26
the full headlight (not sure what the name for that is in english. Driving beam?)

High-beams
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 15/09/2016 19:18:45
Well we do have sun here and volvo is no longer owned by swedes :-D but i totally understand your way of thinking haha
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Thu 15/09/2016 20:16:08
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 15/09/2016 11:12:59
it grinds my gears that some people have their headlights on when it's a bright and sunny morning,

Required by law in Denmark... ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Thu 15/09/2016 20:35:40
Quote from: Mouth for war on Thu 15/09/2016 19:18:45
Well we do have sun here and volvo is no longer owned by swedes :-D but i totally understand your way of thinking haha

Well I did learn to drive 20 years ago... :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Thu 15/09/2016 20:59:53
Quote from: Mouth for war on Thu 15/09/2016 10:42:26
Speaking of cars again. It really grinds my gears when a car is closing in on you at night and don't switch off the full headlight (not sure what the name for that is in english. Driving beam?) removes your vision completely!
Quote from: Stupot+ on Thu 15/09/2016 12:45:53
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 15/09/2016 11:12:59
Speaking of cars some more, it grinds my gears that some people have their headlights on when it's a bright and sunny morning...
Are they Volvos, by any chance? I'm sure I'll be corrected but I heard Volvos always have their headlights in because they are from Sweden, where the sun don't shine.

To be clear, Volvos don't have always-on high-beams, because that would be insane.

Actually, what they have are always-on "daytime running lights", which have been mandatory in Sweden for almost 40 years (and for decades in the rest of the Nordic countries, as well as Canada), a rule that has recently been adopted all over Europe. It used to be that manufacturers could choose whether to add separate lamps or just always leave the low-beam lights on (which I guess some Volvos did?), but under the new rules it has to be a separate set of lamps.

And this is a good thing, because lights improve visibility and safety even in daytime, as long as they're not excessively bright.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 21/09/2016 03:08:08
I know I was whinging about CNN earlier in the thread, but just now they gave me one of the best laughs I've had recently:

Quote(CNN) News that Angelina Jolie is filing for divorce from Brad Pitt is causing rumbles -- and not just on social media.
The US Geological Survey detected a small earthquake Tuesday near Los Angeles just minutes after news broke that the power couple were splitting up.

CNN has confirmed the two incidents are unrelated.

OMG classic!

But I should be posting something that grinds my gears so:

What grinds my gears is this awesome silly song songified from a popular youtuber's lets plays by Schmoyoho:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJPc49z57bU

It grinds my gears that I can't stop singing it at random moments through the day...

I challenge anyone to listen to this song and NOT get it stuck in their head...Jesus, it's crainial superglue or something!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Wed 21/09/2016 09:59:25
What grinds my gears is when people don't use the Oxford comma, also known as the serial comma.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 22/09/2016 22:52:20
It grinds my gears that some people complain that the presence of female fighters or black people in medieval fantasy is "historically inaccurate" but will readily accept things like:

Horns on viking helmets

Everyone, including poor peasants, having good teeth

Warriors wearing their swords strapped to their backs instead of their belts

pumpkins, potatoes and tomatoes (native to the american continent)

Zombies, orcs and other creatures that have never been part of European folklore
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 03/10/2016 01:42:40
This recent comment I found on a game in the AGS database grinds my gears:

(I'll refrain from mentioning names...)

Quote
Just from the screenshots alone, I see this is a good game. May be a while till I decide to play it myself, but I know this'll be a hit with Quest for Glory fans--one might say this is kind of "Quest for Glory--The Dark Side edition".
2016-09-30 14:53:03 by

Really?! You commented on a game you have not even played?!

Are you high and/or trolling?!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on Mon 03/10/2016 13:13:40
I hate it when people open new threads that shows they didn't care about glancing at the rules. I'm not talking details, I'm talking looking at a new thread and wonder why they bothered at all.

Quote from: Some asshole
I'm making a new project. It's super secret so I can't give any details or screenshots, but I would need:

An artist to do backgrounds and characters for free.
A musician to make some music.
A dev with lots of AGS experience.
A writer to help me with the dialogue and the details of the story.

It's an indie project, so all positions are not payed.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 05/10/2016 20:29:40
Oh yeah CaesarCub that really grinds my gears too :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Wed 05/10/2016 20:45:01
That bothers me too! I think if you're going to make an indie game you either need to be the artist or programmer yourself. If you're not one of those then you best have the funds.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: selmiak on Thu 06/10/2016 12:56:31
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Wed 05/10/2016 20:45:01
If you're going to make an indie game you either need to be the artist or programmer yourself. If you're not one of those then you best have the funds.

this is so quoteworthy!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on Thu 06/10/2016 13:32:10
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Wed 05/10/2016 20:45:01
That bothers me too! I think if you're going to make an indie game you either need to be the artist or programmer yourself. If you're not one of those then you best have the funds.

I actually don't get mad at a writer trying to make an adventure game (since adventure games are usually strongly story-driven), but they better have a story, good design documents, a chunk of the story done for real, and they won't get crazy mad if you turn them down after reading the stuff and deciding it's not to your liking.
I mean, if you can't draw or code, you can do a horribly coded with stick figures and boxes for graphics demo of the game to show people what a great idea you have.

The real issue to me is when they have "ideas" and "concepts" and you are given only a synopsis of the story, or get told you can see the actual stuff after you agreed to work in it, because their writing is so amazing you might steal it and make your own game.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Thu 06/10/2016 13:36:25
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Wed 05/10/2016 20:45:01
That bothers me too! I think if you're going to make an indie game you either need to be the artist or programmer yourself. If you're not one of those then you best have the funds.

My programming and artistic skills are pathetic, I concentrate on the bits I can actually be good at ie story, game design, voice acting, have also become handy at SFX.  What you say only applies if you are determined to be a solo dev.  Different skill sets are what teams are for!

Although... after reading CaesarCub's post maybe you're talking about something different altogether, someone who kind of dumps a very basic concept on you as if that was "designing" a game, which it clearly isn't. 
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 06/10/2016 14:17:10
This discussion reminds me about something the author Kalle Lind wrote about Walt Disney...
"Walt Disney was great at making animated movies. Except that he didn't make the animations. And he took the stories from old fairytales. Basically, he put his signature on the movies, but he had someone else design the signature for him.
So I don't know what Walt Disney actually did, but he was good at it."

In my opinion, choosing good artists and writers and being a good leader of a team as well as acting as a vision-bearer can also be very valuable skills.
However, there is a difference between working hard to manage a group project and just look for others to do all the hard work for you.

Another thing that grinds my gears: People who insist licorice counts as candy.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on Thu 06/10/2016 14:32:41
Quote from: Blondbraid on Thu 06/10/2016 14:17:10
"Walt Disney was great at making animated movies. Except that he didn't make the animations. And he took the stories from old fairytales. Basically, he put his signature on the movies, but he had someone else design the signature for him.
So I don't know what Walt Disney actually did, but he was good at it."

In my opinion, choosing good artists and writers and being a good leader of a team as well as acting as a vision-bearer can also be very valuable skills.
However, there is a difference between working hard to manage a group project and just look for others to do all the hard work for you.

Well, Walt Disney was good at selling and getting money.
He acted scenes and sweet talked the producers to get the funding for Snow White.
And then he payed the people that worked at his studio.

There's a difference between a manager that says "We are making a Snow White point and click adventure, here's money."
And one that says "We are making a Snow White point and click adventure, I'm sure when we finish it we will get rich, but for now we all have to put some effort."

The second guy might actually be sincere and good at being a leader, but 9 out of 10 times, he just wants to be successful by making other people work for it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Thu 06/10/2016 14:48:24
It seems that you're talking about an individual who gathers people to do his / her bidding instead of someone who forms a genuine team.  If that's the case then I agree with you.  However most indie game teams are formed to pool various talents - if one person can do a good job at every single element of creating a game, they often go ahead and do it as a solo dev.  Not many people can do that.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaesarCub on Thu 06/10/2016 15:05:27
Quote from: CaptainD on Thu 06/10/2016 14:48:24
It seems that you're talking about an individual who gathers people to do his / her bidding instead of someone who forms a genuine team.  If that's the case then I agree with you.  However most indie game teams are formed to pool various talents - if one person can do a good job at every single element of creating a game, they often go ahead and do it as a solo dev.  Not many people can do that.

Well, my original rant was about people that make posts that you know will be ignored. Like starting a Game in Progress thread with no real description or images, or a recruiting post that tells you nothing about the game in particular.
The example I gave did have a secondary layer of things that annoy me.
People that think that just an idea is enough to make others work for them since they already contributed or people that expect others to join their teams when there are no definitions on what they really want to do are some examples.

Good indie teams are made of people that that are good at different things working together to make something.
I don't expect someone to be a solo dev.
I usually go that way, and I know it sucks because it becomes unbearable the moment you try to make the scope of the project bigger.

On the latter posts I was mostly referring to people that pretend to be the creators of a project when they only have an idea or a concept, but nothing else to contribute (whether it's skills or money).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 06/10/2016 15:17:29
Well, I agree with you there, CaesarCub.
You can see similar things on Kickstarter, with someone giving a super vague idea and then expect people to pour them money.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Thu 06/10/2016 15:18:49
Yup don't really disagree with any of that.  Some of the crowd-funding campaign pages you see are laughably bad.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Thu 06/10/2016 15:45:27
@Selmiak: Put it in your signature! ;)

@CaptainD: At least you know the basics, you've also built a good reputation in the community. A lot of these sort of posts tend to be made by people who just registered, or have no proof of their abilities.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Thu 06/10/2016 17:41:49
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Thu 06/10/2016 15:45:27
A lot of these sort of posts tend to be made by people who just registered, or have no proof of their abilities.

Ah, I see... should have realised that's what you were targeting.  I think sometimes it's more that people don't actually understand just how much work and talent goes into making a good game than deliberately "taking advantage" (although not always), but I see your point.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 21/10/2016 19:56:59
Popup ads grind my gears, along with auto-play video commercials and animated GIF-banners.

I mean, who on earth has ever in the history of planet earth clicked on those things for any reason other
than frantically trying to close them down before those ungodly noises and flashing lights give them a seizure?

And did someone actually think that "I know exactly what will sell our generic product, people love flashing images and stolen sound effects ground into a hideous mess!"?

Because noisy and/or animated ads doesn't make me want to see what they are selling.
Noisy and/or animated ads make me want to see how fast I can hit Alt+F4 without breaking my keyboard.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Fri 21/10/2016 20:09:21
Adblock? (https://adblockplus.org/)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 21/10/2016 20:48:15
I remember when I first installed Adblock.
I was marathoning Game Theory, and I was just getting the same (terrible) advert over and over again. It was driving me CRAZY!!!
Then as I was reading the comment section, it turned out other people were having the same problem, and someone suggested Adblock. There were those that were saying that Adblock wouldn't be able to stop Youtube ads, but I gave it a shot, and guess what, it did stop those ads.

Not only that, but I think it has drastically reduced the number of viruses I've been picking up as well.

I highly HIGHLY recommend Adblock. Just remember to disable it on websites you want you to support. :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 21/10/2016 21:11:29
Yes, thanks for the tip you both!
Adblock do block most of the worst offenders,
which just proves how useless those ads are.

Who thought such a thing was a good idea is an absolute mystery to me. ???

Speaking of brightly colored garbage, I don't know what grind my gears most,
free to play games with a ton of micro-transactions and terrible gameplay,
or the kind of people who actually spend real-life money on such things.

I saw micro-transactions on Candy Crush for up to 10 US dollars! Don't they know how much real, actual and edible candy you can get for that sum? (wtf)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 21/10/2016 23:22:40
Quote from: Blondbraid on Fri 21/10/2016 21:11:29
Who thought such a thing was a good idea is an absolute mystery to me. ???

Then you might be satisfied to know that I was just reading an article the other day about how the dude that invented popup ads has just recently apologized for doing so.

He said something like that he was young and it seemed like a good idea at the time. But that now it has gotten out of control and turned into a kind of virus in and of itself. He also said that he hopes one day people will be able to look back on popup ads as a weird and quaint artifact of the past and wonder wtf people were thinking.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sat 22/10/2016 00:51:01
Amen!

I also installed AdBlock to stop the forced adds on youtube... the popups and all other crap, I had already stopped by using NoScript, Flash block and Stop Autoplay (yes, I'm paranoid! Also have the Self-Destruting cookies" add-on).... (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sat 22/10/2016 01:26:54
What grinds my gears is on Twitter where pictures are addressed as pic.twitter.com but videos also appear under pic.twitter.com

I have my Twitter app to hide all media until I click them but sometimes, on a busy train, I click on a "picture" because it says pic.twitter.com... But noooOOOooo. A loud video starts playibg instead. I have even contacted Twitter with my ingenious idea of having videos under, say, vid.twitter.com instead. But I guess they were too busy to reply.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Sat 22/10/2016 09:14:52
I've read somewhere that Google is planning to give sites a lower rank in their search results if they have pop-up ads.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sat 22/10/2016 16:26:58
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Sat 22/10/2016 00:51:01
I also installed AdBlock to stop the forced adds on youtube... the popups and all other crap, I had already stopped by using NoScript, Flash block and Stop Autoplay (yes, I'm paranoid! Also have the Self-Destruting cookies" add-on).... (roll)
*takes notes and prepares to install suggested add-ons*
I'm not paranoid either. (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Thu 27/10/2016 18:20:19
It really grinds my gears when two legged animals throw their trash out the window.

It could be a bus or a porsche SUV, they still do it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 27/10/2016 20:05:46
Quote from: Jack on Thu 27/10/2016 18:20:19
It really grinds my gears when two legged animals throw their trash out the window.

It could be a bus or a porsche SUV, they still do it.
Yeah, damn those ostriches that litter!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Thu 27/10/2016 21:00:17
You got it backwards (http://www.supernews.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Cllr-Shaheem-Sims.jpg).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on Thu 27/10/2016 22:17:55
Damn that litter that ostriches!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 28/10/2016 15:32:15
Littering is terrible, I've never understood people who just throw away their garbage out in the open.
Cigarette smokers are the worst offenders, at least discarded candy wrappers never started a forest fire,
but chewing gum is pretty gross too. I just hate people who leave stains of gum on the street or smeared
under school benches. I mean, if there really aren't any nearby trashcans, just swallow the stupid gum.
Accidentally getting gum on my shoes makes me wish the 700$ fine they have in Singapore (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gum_ban_in_Singapore) could be applied worldwide!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 28/10/2016 18:48:12
Quote from: Jack on Thu 27/10/2016 18:20:19
It really grinds my gears when two legged animals throw their trash out the window.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDfQo1ANeLM
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sun 20/11/2016 14:09:03
Ok i got one thing that grinds my gears. People who asks for help in a forum...edits their post with a "nevermind i figured it out" but doesn't bother to explain how they solved it!!! :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 31/12/2016 12:54:14
There's one thing that grinds my gears, and I thought it might be worth pointing out today.
This year is about to end, and many celebrate with fireworks. One problem however, is that
some people start way before midnight, and continue with the fireworks for hours afterwards too.
All the noise and racket is annoying for me, but an absolutely terrifying experience for all dogs
in the area, so I hope anyone reading this send a thought to the poor animals and wait until midnight
with the fireworks, and then don't keep at it for too long.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sat 31/12/2016 14:39:28
Not only that...they insist on blasting off their rockets/crackers several days before and several weeks after new years eve as well. It grinds my gears too :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sat 31/12/2016 14:43:41
+1
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 31/12/2016 14:57:47
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 31/12/2016 12:54:14
This year is about to end, and many celebrate with fireworks.

As if the world hasn't had enough explosions this year.

So yeah:

+1

(Thank god the only thing they do here in Japan is ring the temple bells at midnight)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on Sat 31/12/2016 17:19:49
Here, it has become a custom to do aerial firing on new year's eve. This is obviously not only illegal but also quite dangerous. Many people get injured and even get killed due to it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sat 31/12/2016 17:50:56
What do you mean by "aerial firing?" 8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sat 31/12/2016 19:51:16
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 31/12/2016 12:54:14
There's one thing that grinds my gears, and I thought it might be worth pointing out today.
This year is about to end, and many celebrate with fireworks. One problem however, is that
some people start way before midnight, and continue with the fireworks for hours afterwards too.
All the noise and racket is annoying for me, but an absolutely terrifying experience for all dogs
in the area, so I hope anyone reading this send a thought to the poor animals and wait until midnight
with the fireworks, and then don't keep at it for too long.

The only time I've had that problem where I live was at the year 2000. And damn it, they went on for hours!
So while I've never had any dogs (I have had rabbits who enjoyed the fireworks) I do understand your pain, +1 all the way.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on Sun 01/01/2017 16:09:50
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Sat 31/12/2016 17:50:56
What do you mean by "aerial firing?" 8-0

In simple terms, aerial firing is referred to the dumb phenomenon of pointing your gun towards the sky (usually at an angle), and firing a few shots. Some go even far, and empty their whole magazine into the sky.

The Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire) explains this in a much better way, if you're interested.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sun 01/01/2017 16:17:23
Oh... I got the mental image os ppl launching fireworks from planes or balloons... (roll)
Don't ppl know that bullets that go up will eventually come down, with potential deadly outcome if they hit someone? 8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on Mon 02/01/2017 06:36:07
Thanks to my absent-mindedness, I forgot to mention the key point that aerial firing is done to 'show' celebration (as the Wikipedia article rightly states).

According to the reports, a minor was killed, and 20 people were injured (http://www.dawn.com/news/1305794) this time.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Tue 10/01/2017 16:29:27
How about when you see a game with beautiful pixel art, there's always one guy in the comments that says something along the lines of: "Pfft looks like a NES game, why doesn't the lazy developer make the effort to make some real graphics!".
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Tue 10/01/2017 18:01:40
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Tue 10/01/2017 16:29:27
How about when you see a game with beautiful pixel art, there's always one guy in the comments that says something along the lines of: "Pfft looks like a NES game, why doesn't the lazy developer make the effort to make some real graphics!".

On a similar note, people complaining that "indie games always have stupid cartoon-style graphics" despite the indie scene being home to a myriad vastly contrasting visual styles.

(And anyway what's wrong with stupid cartoon-style graphics exactly?! :grin: :tongue: :wink:)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 10/01/2017 19:24:21
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Tue 10/01/2017 16:29:27
How about when you see a game with beautiful pixel art, there's always one guy in the comments that says something along the lines of: "Pfft looks like a NES game, why doesn't the lazy developer make the effort to make some real graphics!".
On a related note, they always call pixel art "8-bit graphics" even when that pixel art looks nothing like something you'd find on an 8-bit system, and isn't even remotely 8-bit in colour depth. 8-bit is not synonymous with pixel art! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 11/01/2017 22:43:58
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Tue 10/01/2017 16:29:27
How about when you see a game with beautiful pixel art, there's always one guy in the comments that says something along the lines of: "Pfft looks like a NES game, why doesn't the lazy developer make the effort to make some real graphics!".

Yeah, a lot of people (probably mostly young'uns) don't understand that the style of the graphics and the tone of the game go hand-in-hand, and that a comedic game probably wouldn't work with the graphics style of "The Last Of Us".

I hear the same rubbish from non-gamer grownups when they see modern games with pixel art, and when I try to explain that it's done on purpose and the reasons for doing so they just roll their eyes and say "I don't care. It still looks bad."

It's like trying to explain Picasso to someone who says "It doesn't look real. A four-year-old could paint that. It's crap."... Best to just give up and not further grind your already ground-down gears...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 12/01/2017 06:18:48
My eye has been twitching for a couple of hours now. And even when it's not twitching it's on some kind of contstant half-twitch. No amount of blinking, massaging or leaving it alone is having any effect. My gears are being well and truly ground.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 16/02/2017 19:02:50
It grinds my gears that I only seem to remember important things or get good ideas when I'm using the bathroom/in bed and about to go to sleep/ in a hurry to catch the next train or otherwise busy and occupied.
Meanwhile, when I actually have time, my brain is completely empty.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Thu 16/02/2017 19:09:22
Blondbraid;

keep a notepad on you at all times (even in the bath (laugh)).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Thu 23/03/2017 14:45:04
More like annoying than making me angry, Google thinks I'm a Muslim. There's always an advert for Muslim brides or some religious event. A few years ago Adeel was talking about Ramadan, so I googled it out of curiosity. Did it a few times when he mentioned stuff. I do have Ad-blocker, but only on my laptop.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Adeel on Fri 24/03/2017 00:19:30
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Thu 23/03/2017 14:45:04
More like annoying than making me angry, Google thinks I'm a Muslim. There's always an advert for Muslim brides or some religious event. A few years ago Adeel was talking about Ramadan, so I googled it out of curiosity. Did it a few times when he mentioned stuff. I do have Ad-blocker, but only on my laptop.
(laugh)(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on Fri 24/03/2017 00:31:09
Retro Wolf, I think you should embrace your newfound religious devotion.

Google thinks I'm retirement age. I get advertisements for arthritis, cancer, diabetes and liver spot treatments.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 24/03/2017 01:16:42
I keep getting adverts for the company I bloody work for!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Fri 24/03/2017 11:21:30
Quote from: Stupot+ on Fri 24/03/2017 01:16:42
I keep getting adverts for the company I bloody work for!

Does your company have anything for Twitchy Eye Sydrome?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Crimson Wizard on Fri 24/03/2017 11:24:23
Quote from: Stupot+ on Fri 24/03/2017 01:16:42
I keep getting adverts for the company I bloody work for!
I was getting adverts for company my company has produced software for :).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 24/03/2017 12:14:26
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Thu 23/03/2017 14:45:04
More like annoying than making me angry, Google thinks I'm a Muslim. There's always an advert for Muslim brides or some religious event. A few years ago Adeel was talking about Ramadan, so I googled it out of curiosity. Did it a few times when he mentioned stuff. I do have Ad-blocker, but only on my laptop.
I can relate, but for me it was adverts from dating sites for russian import wives... (wtf) I have no idea on how they made the connection -> reads a lot about videogames and spend way too much time on browsing TVtropes (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage) = I'm a middle-aged buissnessman looking for a russian girlfriend! ??? One other reason to use Ad block.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 24/03/2017 12:33:40
Quote from: Blondbraid on Fri 24/03/2017 12:14:26
I have no idea on how they made the connection -> reads a lot about videogames
That seems like a pretty cut and dry connection to me. Everyone knows that anyone who likes videogames is a lonely basement dwelling virgin. Who else would be a better candidate for a Russian girlfriend. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 24/03/2017 13:03:31
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 24/03/2017 12:33:40
That seems like a pretty cut and dry connection to me. Everyone knows that anyone who likes videogames is a lonely basement dwelling virgin. Who else would be a better candidate for a Russian girlfriend. (laugh)
Donald Trump? :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 24/03/2017 15:17:16
/me wonders what are those "adverts" ppl talk about...  (wtf)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 24/03/2017 15:36:26
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Fri 24/03/2017 15:17:16
/me wonders what are those "adverts" ppl talk about...  (wtf)

I was wondering the same...

Where can we see these google adverts?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: [delete} on Fri 24/03/2017 16:28:30
Nothing, everything is fine
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Wed 19/04/2017 20:29:42
There's a functional door bell on my front door, when someone presses it I can hear it throughout the house. Half the people who come to my door give it a gentle knock so I have no idea they're there until they've been stood there ages.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 20/04/2017 00:00:54
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Wed 19/04/2017 20:29:42
There's a functional door bell on my front door, when someone presses it I can hear it throughout the house. Half the people who come to my door give it a gentle knock so I have no idea they're there until they've been stood there ages.

You need a sign saying "RING THE DAMN BELL!"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 21/04/2017 17:56:10
I've been thinking of adding such a sign too lately, specially our postman doesn't seem to know how it works.  (wrong)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 21/04/2017 23:22:43
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Fri 21/04/2017 17:56:10
I've been thinking of adding such a sign too lately, specially our postman doesn't seem to know how it works.  (wrong)

In what way does he misuse your doorbell?

Does he always ring twice? 8-)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 21/04/2017 23:52:40
"The postman never rings once, much less twice"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 21/04/2017 23:58:16
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Fri 21/04/2017 23:52:40
"The postman never rings once, much less twice"

(laugh) (laugh) (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 27/04/2017 09:14:05
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Isabelle.
Isabelle who?
Isabelle really necessary when I can just knock?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Thu 27/04/2017 09:26:13
Time traveler!
Who's there?
Knock knock.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 27/04/2017 09:26:45
Quote from: Stupot+ on Thu 27/04/2017 09:14:05
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Isabelle.
Isabelle who?
Isabelle really necessary when I can just knock?

Yeah, knock-knock jokes really grind my gears too! :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Thu 27/04/2017 11:06:56
Knock knock
Who's there?
Mandle
Mandle who?
Mandle who really has his gears ground by knock knock jokes
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 03/05/2017 22:25:47
It grinds my gears whenever people making games/comics/movies promoting a "strong female character"
and say "she's not like other girls, she's a strong independent woman" and then proceeds to use exactly the same cookie-cutter character we've all seen before,
who starts out being pointlessly rude only to have a change of heart and fall for the hero anyway, and despite being introduced as a strong fighter just ends up being
used as damsel in distress in the third act anyway. Seriously, these characters are so predictable they should be considered walking spoilers by now.
(http://i.imgur.com/jukoD4v.png)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on Thu 04/05/2017 08:58:21
Quote from: Blondbraid on Wed 03/05/2017 22:25:47It grinds my gears whenever people making games/comics/movies promoting a "strong female character"

You could stop right there if you wanted, because it shouldn't be exceptional to have one.

I like your analysis. I remember thinking this about Nina in the Secret Files games. She gives so much sass all game that she just seems like a rude person. There's a point in one game where she gives sass to a SWAT crew in her underwear. She's strong, independent, but she needs Max because... ? Also, they end up getting married, so she really is the archetype you're talking about.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 04/05/2017 10:25:17
Quote from: Gurok on Thu 04/05/2017 08:58:21
Quote from: Blondbraid on Wed 03/05/2017 22:25:47It grinds my gears whenever people making games/comics/movies promoting a "strong female character"

You could stop right there if you wanted, because it shouldn't be exceptional to have one.

I like your analysis. I remember thinking this about Nina in the Secret Files games. She gives so much sass all game that she just seems like a rude person. There's a point in one game where she gives sass to a SWAT crew in her underwear. She's strong, independent, but she needs Max because... ? Also, they end up getting married, so she really is the archetype you're talking about.
I think Nina is far from the worst example, but yeah, so many of her lines are pretty cringe-worthy, especially the jokes on housecleaning, they felt recycled from the 1950's.  (wrong)

While we're at the subject, it also bugs me when people claim that female action heroes are unrealistic because the average man is slightly larger and stronger than the average woman.
Aside from the existence of guns, bows, spears and naginatas rendering size a moot point, male action heroes defeat bigger and stronger foes all the time!
Like when Indiana Jones fights that huge, muscular guy (https://youtu.be/rvQEJH_6kzs?t=83), or when Indiana Jones fights that other huge, muscular guy (https://youtu.be/RR51CavZxbc?t=75).  (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 04/05/2017 10:43:32
Quote from: Gurok on Thu 04/05/2017 08:58:21
Quote from: Blondbraid on Wed 03/05/2017 22:25:47It grinds my gears whenever people making games/comics/movies promoting a "strong female character"

You could stop right there if you wanted, because it shouldn't be exceptional to have one.

Ugh, I couldn't agree more. That grinds my gears as well.

If you want to make a "strong female character", then you've already failed. If you want to make a female character but have no idea how to do it without making a boring cookie cutter character, just write a male character and swap the genders at the last minute. It worked for Ripley on Alien.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sun 21/05/2017 18:01:09
Something that bothers me with a lot of sci-fi and fantasy stories is when they try to use magical beings as a metaphor for real-life oppressed minorities... ... and the oppressed ones in the story have superpowers.

The whole message of "they are harmless people who are just like us and don't deserve to be shunned and feared" falls apart when the large masses have a legitimate reason to fear them.

Case in point:

The mages in Dragon age, people with magic powers who are either locked up in towers away from the locals or hunted down by knights because they either risk becoming mad with power and practice blood magic, or possessed by demons and turned into monsters (and even kind and well-meaning mages risk being possessed against their will). The game treats this as a cruel injustice against the mages.

X-men, and several other Marvel superhero movies, where the government wants to register people with various super-powers, such as shooting laser-beams from their eyes, mind-controlling people and kill them just by touching them. According to the X-men movies, requiring people to register mutants with the ability to kill countless people with a mere thought is considered literally just as bad as Hitler (https://youtu.be/XBWYWWUvxF0?t=13).

And let's not forget almost every single movie about witches, where Salem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials) and the witch hunts are mentioned, but in the movie, witches are real and can do magic. All the people who were executed in the witch trials were innocent, because you can't kill people with magic spells in the real world, so it kind of grinds my gears when people make up stories about witch hunters hunting real and dangerous witches, and are totally justified in doing so.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 21/05/2017 23:44:19
Fair points, but also to be fair to X-Men, Magneto is not as concerned with the registration law itself as he is with where he believes it will eventually lead, because of what he has experienced with the Nazis. And also: he is the "bad guy".

Totally agree with the witches point though. I was quite shocked at the incredible bad-taste of that Nicholas Cage movie. I expected the whole way through that he would find the witch and discover that she was an innocent victim. But nope, she was actually a powerful and evil witch. Horrible!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 22/05/2017 11:21:36
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sun 21/05/2017 18:01:09
And let's not forget almost every single movie about witches, where Salem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials) and the witch hunts are mentioned, but in the movie, witches are real and can do magic. All the people who were executed in the witch trials were innocent, because you can't kill people with magic spells in the real world, so it kind of grinds my gears when people make up stories about witch hunters hunting real and dangerous witches, and are totally justified in doing so.
Someone should see about making a witch movie where all of the witch trials killed innocent non-witches because the real witches were too smart to get themselves caught. (laugh)

But I digress. I fully agree with your point. Funnily enough, that type of thing has always annoyed me, yet I've never been able to pinpoint what it was about those groups that annoyed me. Now I know why.

Quote from: Mandle on Sun 21/05/2017 23:44:19
Totally agree with the witches point though. I was quite shocked at the incredible bad-taste of that Nicholas Cage movie. I expected the whole way through that he would find the witch and discover that she was an innocent victim. But nope, she was actually a powerful and evil witch. Horrible!
Hey, I remember that film. I was thinking the exact same thing throughout it. That was the film with Robert Sheehan in it right?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 07/06/2017 14:38:44
I just saw the new Wonder Woman movie, and while I liked most of the movie,
the costumes they went with for the amazons really grinds my gears.

This is an promotional image from the Wonder Woman movie:
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/e8d5036a6cb956cdea3c1b2c4db80aa6/tumblr_o4k920q2zu1u581b8o1_500.png)
And these are images for Game of War, a free to play strategy game mostly known for using B-list actresses in gaudy costumes to trick people into spending money on micro-transactions.
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/6d210f0b1e280abadf79f08b4debede2/tumblr_inline_o7anaggmsj1qaqvtr_500.png)(http://www.adweek.com/agencyspy/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2015/09/game-of-war.png)(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/15/18/2C598A4D00000578-0-image-a-3_1442337885145.jpg)

Why on earth do the the costumes on commercials for a free phone game look less tacky and better made than those in a 150 millon dollar blockbuster?!
Now don't get me wrong, I liked the story, acting and action in Wonder Woman, but the silly costumes made it really hard to feel immersed in the movie whenever the amazons were on screen.
I think costuming in movies in general is criminally underrated, and especially in sci-fi and fantasy. I think it makes up a larger part of world-building than people give it credit for,
and it always bugs me when movies that do everything else well fails in that department.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gilbert on Wed 07/06/2017 17:52:59
Never watched it (and any movies recently), but Wonder Woman is a super hero(ine) movie, right?
Isn't it a requirement that costumes in super hero movies have to be ridiculous and silly, whether worn by the titular super heros or some fantastic/supernatural/whatever-not-supposed-to-be-portraited-realistically tribes?
If it's just pure fantasy/"historical" like LOTR or 300 (or say game set in a straight forward fantasy world like the one you mentioned) it would be different IMO.
After all. It is Winder Woman, a friend(?) to another lunatic who loves to wear a pair of red panties outside a tight suit.

You know, no one would be stupid enough to make say a Punisher movie to have the hero wear a shirt without the iconic large skull on it... wait... nevermind...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 07/06/2017 21:33:52
You make a good point, Gillbert, but my complaint isn't about realism as much as aesthetics,
and I think that the costumes look boring and cheap for being in a movie with a multimillion dollar budget.
If you aren't constrained by realism, why not go all out and do something interesting and dramatic rather
than just use leftover pieces of leather stapled together?

To use some examples, the armor of Thor and the other Norse gods in the Marvel movies weren't realistic either,
but they looked like there was thought and effort put into designing them, and I could say the same of the designs
for the characters on planet Krypton in Man of Steel or the characters in Lord of the Rings too.

I had trouble telling most of the amazons apart for much of the time, and nothing about them looked even vaguely Greek.
I also found the amazon costumes jarring in Wonder Woman since all the other costumes from the WW1 era were rather accurate and well done.
I guess this might count as minor spoilers, but:
Spoiler
The armor for Ares looked like a ridiculous knockoff of the guy on the Skyrim cover! Also, why did he have a Victorian-era mustache in Ancient Greece?
[close]
However, this is just my opinion, and taste is subjective. But does anyone think that the amazon costumes looked beautiful or memorable? :-\
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 22/06/2017 00:00:11
It grinds my gears when reporters write as if for three-year-olds.

This gem from CNN:

"During the celestial event, the moon will pass between the sun and the Earth, appearing to block the sun for almost an hour and a half. You can replicate an eclipse by holding a flashlight and waving your hand slowly across it."

You can replicate being a moron by sitting in front of your computer at CNN and typing slowly on it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 30/06/2017 13:59:18
What really grinds my gears is this quote from an article about The Escapists 2 "With this gameplay upgrade comes a new graphics style, making the jump from 8-bit NES style graphics to the 16-bit Super Nintendo age."
This quote grinds my gears, because anyone who has seen The Escapists 1 would know for an absolute fact, that it DID NOT HAVE 8-BIT NES GRAPHICS!!! I mean just one look at it, and you can see it uses the same style of sprites as half a dozen SNES games! Not to mention the colour depth! >:(

I'm sorry, but I'm really pulling my hair out over the stupidity in this quote.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 11/08/2017 19:58:07
It grinds my gears when people try to insist that a rare steak would be objectively better than a well done steak.

Apart from the fact that you could make a list longer than the Star Wars intro crawl on all the diseases you can get from poorly cooked meat, taste is subjective, and just because some prefer their steak a little raw in the middle it doesn't mean that all do.

I'm especially cross with resturants that automatcally serve any meat that I order rare without asking first, and then act as if wanting a well done steak is some act of barbary, just because I find raw meat slightly nauseating.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 11/10/2017 12:49:51
It grinds my gears when someone sings Incy Wincy Spider, and pronounces "Again" as "Ahgen".
It doesn't even rhyme when you pronounce it like that! "Rain" only rhymes with "Again" when you pronounce it properly. If you pronounce it as "Ahgen" then you should be rhyming it with "Ben" or "Then".
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 11/10/2017 13:31:45
@Dan That used to wind me up too. In general conversation I say "a gen" and anyone who says "a gain" really grinds my gears. But, as you correctly point out. If you're trying to rhyme with "rain" then only a moron would use "a gen"

@Blondbraid I agree with that whole heartedly. I once worked in the kitchen of s pub and chef would've personally offended if anyone asked for a well-done steak or even a medium-rare. He died about 5 years ago. I'm only now just thinking there might have been a connection.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 12/10/2017 11:06:32
Quote from: Stupot+ on Wed 11/10/2017 13:31:45
@Dan That used to wind me up too. In general conversation I say "a gen" and anyone who says "a gain" really grinds my gears. But, as you correctly point out. If you're trying to rhyme with "rain" then only a moron would use "a gen"
I am so glad I'm not the only one. For a moment there, I thought I was alone in my pettiness. (laugh)

Just to clarify though, like you I pronounce "again" as "a gen" in general conversation.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 12/10/2017 11:35:02
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 11/10/2017 12:49:51
It grinds my gears when someone sings Incy Wincy Spider, and pronounces "Again" as "Ahgen".
It doesn't even rhyme when you pronounce it like that! "Rain" only rhymes with "Again" when you pronounce it properly. If you pronounce it as "Ahgen" then you should be rhyming it with "Ben" or "Then".

+1!!!

This topic would so go viral on FB. It's just exactly trivial and yet triggering enough!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 12/10/2017 11:36:04
What grinds my gears are FB posts obviously designed to be exactly trivial and yet triggering enough to go viral.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sun 15/10/2017 00:33:24
It grinds my gears when people pluralise 'LEGO' as 'LEGOs'. I realise that it's an acceptable form as enough people use it (although LEGO themselves don't like it) but I grew up with LEGO as an uncountable noun so the s sounds genuinely weird to me. If I want to count them I use 'pieces' or 'bricks'.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sun 15/10/2017 01:25:03
+1
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Sun 15/10/2017 02:52:30
Quote from: Stupot+ on Sun 15/10/2017 00:33:24
It grinds my gears when people pluralise 'LEGO' as 'LEGOs'. I realise that it's an acceptable form as enough people use it (although LEGO themselves don't like it) but I grew up with LEGO as an uncountable noun so the s sounds genuinely weird to me. If I want to count them I use 'pieces' or 'bricks'.
Absolutely agree!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 22/01/2018 00:43:14
Progress bars that race up to 99% and then stay stuck there for 20 minutes while the installation finishes.PLUS you don't know if it's still installing or just frozen up.

I mean seriously WTF?!

(We might have had this one before. I forget. But one of these is pissing me off right now and I had to vent!)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Mon 22/01/2018 01:00:59
Haha yeah that was the subject I began this thread with. I totally agree with that!!! :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Mon 22/01/2018 01:26:17
I'm a coeliac, which means I can't have wheat or gluten.
And it REALLY grinds my gears that gluten-free food is 3 or 4 times the price, for a SMALLER portion of the gluten equivalent.  :angry:

It's not like I woke up, and thought 'Hey, I think I'll be coeliac today, and pay extortionate prices for things that normally cost a fraction of the price.'  :angry:


EDIT:  Even something simple, like a loaf of bread...
Standard 800g loaf - £1
Gluten-free 535g loaf - £2.50
Smaller loaf, more than double the price! 
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 22/01/2018 01:30:07
Quote from: Mouth for war on Mon 22/01/2018 01:00:59
Haha yeah that was the subject I began this thread with. I totally agree with that!!! :D

Thought it sounded familiar...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: lorenzo on Mon 22/01/2018 11:50:14
Quote from: Frodo on Mon 22/01/2018 01:26:17
I'm a coeliac, which means I can't have wheat or gluten.
And it REALLY grinds my gears that gluten-free food is 3 or 4 times the price, for a SMALLER portion of the gluten equivalent.  :angry:
Here the Region (Tuscany and others, but not all) gives to coeliac people monthly vouchers to get gluten-free food.

You can use them to get bread, pasta, etc. for free in drug-stores and in designated shops. My uncle (who is coeliac) saves a lot of money this way, because â€" as you say â€" gluten-free food is quite expensive.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sun 28/01/2018 13:45:45
What really grinds my gears is those times you're hungry and you are given food you don't really like. You still eat a good size serving because you don't know when you're gonna eat the next time. And just because the food wasn't good you can bet your game making a$$ you're hungry again within the hour. If it was good food, the same size would have made you full for hours!!! And that folks is what grinds my gears :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: LameNick on Tue 30/01/2018 21:45:23
I'm so pissed off that I resorted to writing in this thread.
To everybody stopping by, listen.. listen!! I tell you that cryptocurrency miners are grinding my gears! In fact I feel pure, genuine, concentrated hatred towards them!
I'm in need of a new good quality monitor but I can just go wank myself for the foreseeable future as I won't be able to get hold of a GPU, at least not without selling my kidneys.
Thanks for listening and please don't mine.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 31/01/2018 02:58:30
Quote from: LameNick on Tue 30/01/2018 21:45:23
Thanks for listening and please don't mine.

Are you talking about mining new coins or hacking and stealing existing ones?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: LameNick on Wed 31/01/2018 10:40:06
I mean mining new coins. I'm not a cryptocurrency expert but if I understand the principle of the mechanism well, coin mining refers to using the computing power at your disposal to help maintain the blockchain and execute transactions, which is then rewarded by adding more credit of that currency to your account.
Those calculations require GPUs and with the coin mining insanity going on lately there are no GPUs available, not beyond the shitiest ones that are also absolutely horribly prized.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Tue 06/02/2018 00:12:39
What grinds my gears is when people on the bus ring the bell to get off LONG before they're anywhere near their stop.  :angry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 07/02/2018 10:06:40
Quote from: Frodo on Tue 06/02/2018 00:12:39
What grinds my gears is when people on the bus ring the bell to get off LONG before they're anywhere near their stop.  :angry:
Why is that bad?
I thought it was a good idea to let the driver know well in advance that someone wants to get off at the next stop.
I don't do that though, I prefer to wait until the stop is actually in view (so I don't accidentally get the bus to stop at a stop that I don't want to get off at), but I do want to understand why that grinds your gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 07/02/2018 10:48:26
I'm not a bus driver but if I were I think I'd appreciate as much notice as possible. As soon as I have completely passed the stop before the one I want, I press the button. That way there's zero chance of any ambiguity.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 07/02/2018 22:55:13
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 07/02/2018 10:48:26
As soon as I have completely passed the stop before the one I want, I press the button.

Me too, but for me it's more than I enjoy pushing the button and hearing the "ding!"...

Mmmmmmm... feedback...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 14/02/2018 00:57:42
A minor grind:

I watched Alien Covenant the other day and really enjoyed it. I was conflicted about watching it or not after what a complete disaster Prometheus was but decided that if my love for the Alien movies could survive Alien: Ressurection then it was pretty buttetproof.

Anyway, the movie was good IMO: It had an interesting story with some nice mystery elements to keep me interested. The characters were interesting enough, if a little hard to keep track of. David especially was amazing (he was the only thing I liked in Prometheus).

But two little things ground my gears just a bit:

* The neutrino storm at the start: The computer alerts Warren that a neutrino burst has been detected nearby and that it will hit the ship momentarily. It grinds my gears when sci-fi movies use stuff like this but can't get it right. Neutrinos travel at the speed of light. No information can travel faster than the speed of light. So how can the computer detect the burst before it hits the ship? It can't. For the same reason that we can't put a probe near the sun to warn us when a major solar emmission threatens our planet: The warning radioed to us by the probe and the radiation from the emmission would reach us at the same time. Actually the warning would reach us a few microseconds after the radiation if you take into account the time it takes for the probe's computers to process the detection and send the warning. Either way, the warning is useless.

* The CGI blood. There were a few really shocking scenes of violence which could have been damn effective if not for the fake-looking CGI blood. How hard would it have been to blow a few packs of fake blood IRL instead of using over-blobby, over-shiny CGI blood effects? Cheaper too!

Good film nonetheless. Best Alien film since 2 IMO...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 14/02/2018 01:35:43
Ohh i agree. Movies ruined by crappy special effects is a real disappointment. Jaws is still the best shark movie around and people have had 40 years trying to beat it! I know people say how fake it looks etc but to me it still looks damn good when you think about how old it is
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Wed 14/02/2018 05:19:17
Speaking of special effects, it definitely grinds my gears when younger generations talk down classic films because it isn't CGI. They have no idea the amount of work that went into such classics. 100's of man hours using physical props, robotics, miniature models, stunt work, etc. Where as now a days most of everything you see is CGI. Actors in front of blue/green screens. It's at the point that these young ones think CGI looks real and REAL looks fake, SMH!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 14/02/2018 10:07:06
A lot of moviemakers today seem to think that if they cram as many special effects they can in a movie it will automatically be a good movie. Storytelling and character development? "Nah just look at these cool effects":-P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Wed 14/02/2018 16:28:30
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 14/02/2018 01:35:43
Jaws is still the best shark movie around and people have had 40 years trying to beat it!
Jaws is a classic, and a truly great film.  But 47 Meters Down is the best shark movie for my money.

:P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 15/02/2018 13:44:31
Ah never saw that. Gonna look it up. Thanks :-)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 16/02/2018 12:51:20
Alright time to unload all of the things that really REALLY grinds my gears.
I've actually brought up a few of these things on other threads, but I think it's about time I just vented.
So I want everyone to just imagine that everything below is in block capitals.

I really hate it when people call a game 8-bit just because it has pixel art. The game clearly isn't using 256 colours, nor is it imitating an 8-bit console of any kind (not even of the fictional kind), yet they insist on calling it 8-bit!
What's worse, these games usually look closer to a 16-bit console game.

It grinds my gears how much people hate mismatched pixels. Ok, I get it, you all hate mismatched pixels. But can you accept for just one second that there are some people out there that think they look nice! And that some people use mismatched pixels out of artistic freedom and not out of an incompetent inability to use pixels "properly".
Mismatched pixels aren't even a new thing, a very good example are all of the games that used the Midway MCR-III. The sprites were all twice as detailed as the backgrounds. I admit, mismatched pixels were extremely rare until about ten years ago though.

It grinds my gears that everyone actually seems to believe that kids these days would only recognise a floppy disk as a save icon. I have never encountered any kid who thought that. If they recognise a save icon, then they recognise a floppy disk. And I'm willing to bet there are just as many old people who don't know what a floppy disk is, as there are kids who don't recognise one.
That's not to say that kids know all outdated tech. Show any kid an 8-Track and you'll always be met with confusion. But floppy disks are as embedded in culture as vinyl records (at least for now).

Which brings me onto my next thing. It grinds my gears when people say we live in a time when everyone has the shortest attention spans ever. Really? REALLY!?!
Then how do you explain Minecraft's continual relevance. If that was true, people would have moved on from that game in 2012. It's 2018 and people are still playing it like mad!
And nowadays people get so invested in a show, they marathon through it all in a single sitting!
If anything, we had a shorter attention span in the past. Remember flitting between arcade games back when they were popular?

Finally, the most recent thing that's been grinding my gears.
People have been constantly saying that Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice is lighting in a bottle. That until someone else manages to replicate its success on what many consider to be a shoe-string budget, that it's nothing more than a one time occurrence.
Except I can list 100s of games which have basically done the same thing. But of course no one will listen to that list, since they'll find irrelevant and petty reasons as to why those games don't count. Despite the fact that the only thing that does count is whether a successful game came out of such a small budget!

Ah... that feels so much better. :-D
I've been holding that all in for waaaaaaaay too long.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Fri 16/02/2018 12:56:17
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand.... breathe! (laugh)(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: BadLuckBurt on Fri 23/02/2018 15:22:01
Finished Tumbleweed Park last night and I don't care for the ending one bit. It's hollow, insulting and very, very cheap. Ron Gilbert is probably laughing his ass off but wth was he thinking. If he puts out another adventure game, I'll pass and stick to his 'classic' stuff.

Comparing this game to Technobabylon which I finished a few months ago, I'll be sure to recommend TB to anyone who wants to try a modern adventure game.

On a technical level, TP feels under-executed and / or underutilized. I love the backgrounds, top-notch work there from Mark Ferrari (I actually learnt about the game from watching his GDC video) but then there's the 'lighting' that sometimes shows up over characters but most of the time it just doesn't. Missed chance there in my opinion, same with non-working mirrors (in this age, really?). I really don't see why they would have visual effects in one scene but then in the next, it's as flat the character shading. Overall it just feels very inconsistent, they could've done a lot more interactivity, the CPU power is more than there these days and GPUs are probably left wondering what they should do after finishing rendering a frame in 1ms.

The story wasn't that engaging but it was interesting enough for me to want to see where it would take me, entered the factory with high expectations to only be greeted by one of the biggest disappointments I've had in a game. They have the gall to poke fun at the notorious Sierra deaths talking about how their method 'takes more effort but in the end it pays off', I had more fun following proper procedure in Police Quest and pumping the Death Angel full of lead than I had with this crap ending. If I ever play through TP again, Dolores is gonna push the button on that device for sure.
Spoiler
guess Sierra was right about BOOM! after all
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I have always enjoyed both Sierra and LucasArts games and shit-talking your long-gone competition after all this time just feels freaking childish to me. They both did it back in the days but that was a back-and-forth thing, Epic did the same thing with Duke Nukem but it was always friendly jabs (doomed space marine, not being afraid of no quake), this felt a lot more malicious. Sierra games these days would probably just auto-save and give you the death animations, allowing you to rewind immediately.

I hardly ever make posts like these but TP definitely rubbed me the wrong way and I'd be more than happy to point out on the Ransome doll where it touched me :~(



Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sat 24/02/2018 02:51:57
Wow it really must've been a horrible ending then XD
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: BadLuckBurt on Sat 24/02/2018 09:24:46
Quote from: Mouth for war on Sat 24/02/2018 02:51:57
Wow it really must've been a horrible ending then XD

It was for me :D Just glad there's plenty of games with good endings to offset this monstrosity :P

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sun 25/02/2018 11:37:45
Remember the old days. A black screen and "Thank you for playing" talk about putting energy into that ending :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: BadLuckBurt on Mon 26/02/2018 20:33:20
Quote from: Mouth for war on Sun 25/02/2018 11:37:45
Remember the old days. A black screen and "Thank you for playing" talk about putting energy into that ending :-D

At least they had an excuse back then :D

Playing QFG4: Shadows of Darkness now, always loved that ending and John Rhys-Davies as narrator works so well
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 01/03/2018 01:16:17
Ghost 'n' goblins ending: You must play through the game again..yeah because that game was soooo easy to beat the first time. Maybe I suck but that was one of the hardest games ever IMO :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 01/03/2018 12:19:21
Quote from: Mouth for war on Thu 01/03/2018 01:16:17
Maybe I suck but that was one of the hardest games ever IMO :-D
If you completed that game, trust me, you don't suck.
People say that Dark Souls is hard, but compared to Ghost 'n' Goblins, Dark Souls is incredibly easy.
Actually, Dark Souls is easy when compared to a lot of games. It's actually just an easy game. But I digress. Ghosts 'n' Goblins is an impossibly difficult game. I don't think I've ever gotten past the second level, let alone completed it once.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 01/03/2018 14:13:22
Well cheating helped me ;-D what grinds my gears like hell right now is how the people i've employed says no the same or a few days before they're supposed to begin after accepting the job grrrrr
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 01/03/2018 22:42:37
Quote from: Mouth for war on Thu 01/03/2018 14:13:22
what grinds my gears like hell right now is how the people i've employed says no the same or a few days before they're supposed to begin after accepting the job grrrrr

Trust me, it's even worse when they quit right after they've finished the training.

Had a guy pull that on us and then he came in and asked where his pay was. We told him "You expect to get paid for getting trained?! You should be paying us!"

He'd broken his contract anyway by quitting without notice in which case the contract says the appropriate amount will be deducted from final payment, which was more than what he'd "earned" anyway, but it was more satisfying to say it that way.

Slight compensation for the ground gears hearing him slam the door on his way out... (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Fri 02/03/2018 00:34:04
Yeah that will be even worse. We have that policy too. They will only get paid for their 10 day training if they decide to continue. Best one was today. I had clearly told her how the training will be and so on...and she "misunderstood our communication" and the way she tried to sound smart with "I understand that you understood it like that" really got my blood boiling. I just thought to myself "Ooooh try to sound clever ONE more time and I will rip you to shreds you @§#-*" :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 02/03/2018 03:39:16
Quote from: Mouth for war on Fri 02/03/2018 00:34:04
she tried to sound smart with "I understand that you understood it like that"

Probably not a keeper... ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Fri 02/03/2018 08:52:32
Haha indeed. Oh well there will be some real ice cream enthusiasts sooner or later. How can you turn down a job where a big bonus is that you can eat as much ice cream you want for free?!?! :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: BadLuckBurt on Sat 03/03/2018 12:39:56
Quote from: Mouth for war on Thu 01/03/2018 01:16:17
Ghost 'n' goblins ending: You must play through the game again..yeah because that game was soooo easy to beat the first time. Maybe I suck but that was one of the hardest games ever IMO :-D

Oh man, blast from the past. Now I have to go and play that. Been ages since I tried, don't think I ever finished it. Wish me luck (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 03/03/2018 13:45:13
Quote from: Mouth for war on Fri 02/03/2018 08:52:32
How can you turn down a job where a big bonus is that you can eat as much ice cream you want for free?!?! :-D

I'm really interested in how that works...

Is there literally enough ice cream in the headquarter freezer that nobody could possibly run out, and/or are the boots-on-the-ground salesmen just able to write off as much product as they like and sign it off as having eaten themselves?

In the latter case I can see some leeway for scams being viable...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sat 03/03/2018 20:46:15
Well I can withdraw from our big freezer and write it off as "staff ice cream" and at the office there's a store sized freezer where I put that stuff and there it's an open bar haha. They can not take stuff from their trucks. They must do an inventory every week so I will know if something goes missing. My boss will not accept me removing crazy amounts from the freezer of course but I can always take something. The best is to remove broken goods we can't sell or stuff that is about to expire. I can say that during the 2 years I've been there, that staff freezer was never empty :D My boss is a great guy though, he even allowed (Al Lowe d for us game nerds :D ) the guy I replaced to come whenever he wants to pick up free ice cream. That was a very generous parting gift I must say :) So...I control how much the foot soldiers can get
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sat 03/03/2018 20:49:50
Quote
Oh man, blast from the past. Now I have to go and play that. Been ages since I tried, don't think I ever finished it. Wish me luck (laugh)


i'm too old to even try that game now. My blood pressure would go through the roof!!! :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 04/03/2018 00:53:53
Quote from: Mouth for war on Sat 03/03/2018 20:46:15
My boss is a great guy though, he even allowed the guy I replaced to come whenever he wants to pick up free ice cream. That was a very generous parting gift I must say :)

Almost as good as a flying glass elevator and the keys to the chocolate factory...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 08/03/2018 02:02:01
What grinds my gears is websites with flash games for kids but they insist on putting the icons that link to other pages on the site RIGHT NEXT TO the game window. Kids don't have perfect mouse control and a miss-click of a matter of a few pixels sends them to another page without any warning or check-box and all progress in the game is lost.

Also: painting games where they expect the kid to be able to click pixel-perfect on areas that are like 2 pixels wide. And often the ERASE-ALL icon is either ON the painting area or a few pixels away from it and OF COURSE has no warning or check-box if miss-clicked. It just instantly erases all work done so far and is NOT undoable...

GRRRRR... and I'm talking about professional sites like Disney, Nickelodeon, BBC-Kids, PBS-Kids...etc

Don't these people EVER test their games with actual kids?!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: lorenzo on Thu 08/03/2018 09:21:20
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 08/03/2018 02:02:01
Kids don't have perfect mouse control
"Kids", right... (roll) Come on, admit that you are still sore after losing your record at that Frozen game! ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 08/03/2018 09:52:39
Quote from: lorenzo on Thu 08/03/2018 09:21:20
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 08/03/2018 02:02:01
Kids don't have perfect mouse control
"Kids", right... (roll) Come on, admit that you are still sore after losing your record at that Frozen game! ;)

Hahaha.... revenge is best served cold!

How's it taste? (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: lorenzo on Fri 09/03/2018 08:41:39
(laugh)
Well, it it was too good an opportunity to miss. ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Buckethead on Fri 09/03/2018 08:51:35

You had me at:
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 08/03/2018 02:02:01
What grinds my gears is websites with flash games...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Thu 05/04/2018 08:08:09
When people have programming issues and post "every time I do X, it does Y". DUH.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 15/04/2018 00:37:44
What grinds my gears is when an old mate comes over to Japan after a long while and we go out with them as a group and at some inevitable point, usually sooner than later, someone says "Let's go to karaoke!".

This means the next 4-5 hours just sitting around while everyone sings pretty much the same songs they always do. I mean, it's fun enough, but what I'm really there for is to catch up with my mate which is impossible in karaoke.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sun 15/04/2018 05:10:13
@Mandle Just last week a mate of mine came over to Japan with his fiancée and we went out for dinner and drinks. At first we were considering karaoke but we ended up just going to a rooftop bar and talking. I like karaoke but, for the same reasons you mention, I was glad we didn't do that.

Mind you, it is a guaranteed way to get a private table in Shinjuku on a Saturday night.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Click'd on Wed 18/04/2018 02:01:05
One of the NON-REBINDABLE hotkeys in OBS (a screen streaming/recording software) is Ctrl-F. What could possibly go wrong with that... And what does it do? It squashes your source into a small box. Which you then only notice after the fact. Argh.

Best thing about it: It WAS rebindable a few versions back. Progress, ladies and gentlemen! Someone thought it was a good idea to force it on the users.

/rant
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Tue 24/04/2018 20:45:27
What grinds my gears: You're finally gonna get your first good paycheck in quite some time...and at the same time...the f*****g bill for the car tax is sent,  375$ gone immediately. GRRRRRR it's way too high IMO :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 25/04/2018 01:21:22
Quote from: Mouth for war on Tue 24/04/2018 20:45:27
What grinds my gears: You're finally gonna get your first good paycheck in quite some time...and at the same time...the f*****g bill for the car tax is sent,  375$ gone immediately. GRRRRRR it's way too high IMO :D

Same thing happens to me all the time here but it's the city tax.

As soon as I start to get a bit ahead with my savings the friggin' city tax shows up and wipes it out.

And then usually at the same time the people from NHK (the national TV station) show up asking me for money when I don't even freakin' watch NHK and I also pay for cable TV which includes NHK and they wonder why I tell them to get lost.

Seeing as I get my NHK channel through my cable package it would be simpler to just block it when I don't pay the door-to-door beggers but it's the law here that everyone must have access to NHK because it's supposed to be indestructible in the event of a major catastrophe. Of course the real reason is that if it were an option to not pay then 50% of people would just do without it and the government would lose money. So why not just tack it on to another tax then instead of sending poor slobs door-to-door to mostly hostile receptions from the people they disturb. They even show up sometimes at like 7-8PM when people are eating dinner/relaxing after work. Because if these people didn't have this stupid job the unrealistically low unemployment rate would go up. The Japanese government hires ridiculous numbers of people for jobs that could be handled by a fraction these days just to keep unemployment down and this is paid for out of, guess what, our freakin' taxes!

In Australia I went to get my driver's licence renewed. It took 15 minutes from in the door until finished, including the eye-test and photograph. There were only like 7-8 staff in the whole office. Everything is handled by computer so you don't even need to fill out a form on paper. A greeter meets you at the door with a tablet where they input your needs and give you your number. There were about 6 numbers ahead of mine so I figured like a 30 minute to an hour wait but the numbers ticked down like one per minute and then I was called to the desk where all my data was already on the worker's screen.

Same experience at another government office but it was only 10 minutes there start to finish.

In Japan there are like 20-30 people working in any government office branch. You have to fill out the same bloody form every time you go in, then line up to hand in the form, then get your number and then wait for usually 1-2 hours until called while they go over the same information on the form that should already be in their system. No face-to-face worker has a computer at their station. They are still working directly off the paper forms you hand in and any other info on you they physically get from their massive banks of filing cabinets. You can always see staff in the back constantly filing and retrieving papers. Then there is a row of people on computers entering the data anyway. Then you are told to wait for like 6 weeks until your request is processed, after which time you must physically go back in to the office, get another number, and wait yet again until finally the whole thing is done.

Another amazing thing about this process is that I'm sure I fill in certain sections on the form differently every time I do them because the field description is so vague like "Length Of Stay". To this day I have no idea if that means the total time I have been in Japan, the time since I last filled out the form, or how much time I have wasted in their offices. This and many other sections like "Gross Worth Of Company" etc. I just fill in with random numbers and have never been asked about which shows they don't even look at and/or don't even care about these sections. Are they just in there so that the form fills an A4 size paper?!

Of course the only place where this isn't true and your business is handled quickly, painlessly, and digitally is, guess where? Yup: The friggin' tax office when you come in to pay. Funny isn't it that when it's them getting money from me everything moves along smoothly!

Now that I'm starting to sound like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz2LaJOVAiA I'll just finish with:

BLAH!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 25/04/2018 10:02:41
Ohhh government procedures...how I love them XD Haha I was thinking the same thing just a little while ago. When I need something from  an office there's a 2 month waiting time. When they want something I should've done it yesterday
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 25/04/2018 13:01:50
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 25/04/2018 10:02:41
Ohhh government procedures...how I love them XD Haha I was thinking the same thing just a little while ago. When I need something from  an office there's a 2 month waiting time. When they want something I should've done it yesterday

...and there's only a bleedin' lizard in the bidet, and half the rooms are double-booked...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 25/04/2018 14:46:18
Haha yeah and don't even dare to suggest to them to step out of the box and update the routines they've had since the 70's :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 26/04/2018 22:18:25
Oh and we can add a dentist bill now too....GAH!!!! POOR AGAIN!!!!!!! XD
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Sun 10/06/2018 21:06:21
People who plead poverty and say they struggle to get by and yet have numerous cats and dogs...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 10/06/2018 23:53:03
Quote from: Slasher on Sun 10/06/2018 21:06:21
People who plead poverty and say they struggle to get by and yet have numerous cats and dogs...

Ah, but are they the same cats and dogs week-to-week? (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 15/06/2018 09:35:08
What grind my gears is the behavior of many people on Facebook.

A friend of mine started off a funny incident story with the phrase "Oh my Golliwogs!".

Somebody posted what the word "Golliwogs" "actually means": That it is a racist slur in the UK and should not be used.

I posted that it doesn't "actually mean" that and only means that when used in that context otherwise it refers to a childrens' doll or a delicious chocolate biscuit. I went on to say that because of over-sensitivity and out-of-control PC ideals that pretty soon we are not going to be able to use any word without offending someone or other.

This person accused me of a passive-agressive attack on them when they were just trying to "warn a friend about a term that could offend some people", and told me to "deal with your issues, dude!"

I wanted to ask them: if it is true that the word "Golliwog" is so taboo in the UK then what have they renamed the dolls to? Oh, wait, they haven't renamed them because the word is only offensive when used as a racist slur against a black person. (And even then I suspect that this slur is so archaic that anyone using it in 2018 would probably get laughed at. This isn't "Love Thy Neighbor".)

I never got to reply though because my friend deleted the whole post to avoid further conflict.

Fair enough.

BUT THEN she posts another thing saying that she will be more careful to look up the full meaning of words before posting in the future so as to avoid insulting anyone.

She won't, but that's not what grinds my gears. She is bowing down to this SJW (who is white of course), conceding their ridiculous point, and walking away still thinking that it is words and not the context they are used in that are in the wrong.

The dumbing-down of our moral responses into knee-jerk reactions to trigger words with no concern to the context in which they are used.

THIS GRINDS MY GEARS!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: ManicMatt on Fri 15/06/2018 11:21:08
It is my understanding that if someone was called a golliwog, they are referring to the dolls, which is unacceptable. The dolls themselves are considered to be racist by most people these days, and I only ever see them in places like Cornwall in small shops. They haven't changed the name because the dolls are generally considered taboo in the first place. So the word in itself as far as I'm aware isn't racist, hence why I have been typing it, it's the name of those dolls.

I haven't heard the word in any other context, in my experience, so I would be confused by someone saying "Oh my golliwogs", and take it to be as random as saying "oh my Rice Crispies!"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 15/06/2018 11:47:39
I'm pretty much in agreement that this culture of getting offended by everything is reaching critical levels of insanity these days. And my gears have been ground plenty of times for this reason. That said, the term Golliwog is a difficult one. Yes it is the name of the dolls but it has been used as a slur in the UK for many years and I even remember being gently advised to be careful using that word even when I was a kid, so it's not a recent SJW-era thing.

But yeah, this person posting on your friend's wall is just a busy-body.

I'm by no means a “lefty liberal snowflake”. I do tend to side (for want ofvs better word) with those people more, though. But I'm not there yet. It's funny. I used to tell such terrible racist and everything-ist jokes and justify it by saying it was an appreciation of the joke, the wordplay, rather than racism. These days I still like a risky gag but I'm far less likely to tell those jokes than I once was. I think that means I've grown.

But there are still a lot of things I will laugh at that some extreme PC brigadiers would delete me for. Progress is slow and I think it's good that some people are keeping a check on what is okay or not okay to say. But there has to be some wriggle-room. Using the word ‘Gollywog' as an exclamation of surprise, is something that those people shouldn't get really upset about.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 15/06/2018 13:55:10
Quote from: ManicMatt on Fri 15/06/2018 11:21:08
I would be confused by someone saying "Oh my golliwogs", and take it to be as random as saying "oh my Rice Crispies!"

Quote from: Stupot on Fri 15/06/2018 11:47:39
Using the word ‘Gollywog' as an exclamation of surprise, is something that those people shouldn't get really upset about.

I'm pretty sure she meant it as a play on "Oh my golly gosh" and I thought it was really quite cute and funny and (after it was called out) obviously not at all in any context that could make it a racist slur.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: LameNick on Sat 16/06/2018 01:25:29
Frankly this moronic wave of constant effort to rummage through the media and internet and seep through every word trying to figure out the worst possible interpretation regardless of context is really getting on mi nerves. 
There are plenty of things I hear daily that evoke painful thoughts and memories in me, but it never occurred to me to take offense and blame the source, unless actually their true intent was malicious.  And the possibility that someone could potentially be a sack of shit full of hatred with retarded discriminatory convictions shouldn't be a reason to bully everyone who isn't scared enough to filter every word through the latest strict SJ protocol. People should be on the save side when giving out gun permits not when deciding whether someone should be allowed to express themselves.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Sat 16/06/2018 03:24:43
I'm offended by this thread!   

Haha, sorry, I couldn't resist ;)   

I do agree though it has gotten quite ridiculous this day in age. It's summer time enough with the "snowflakes", oops, better be careful or I might offend someone, smh!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 16/06/2018 23:34:51
From what I've seen, Golliwog dolls do look like racist caricatures and blackface/minstrel type of designs that aren't acceptable today and I can clearly see why many people would find them offensive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golliwog

While there are some pretty dumb arguments made around different words or images or cultural appropriation, insults like "SJW" and "snowflake" has also been used to dismiss real bullying and legitimate grievances.
To me, avoiding slurs never felt like a sacrifice, and requests asking for people to take others into consideration in any public space are there to make people feel safe and welcome.
Why would it be any worse than being asked to keep quiet in a library or leave leave a bus seat free for the elderly and disabled?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sun 17/06/2018 00:32:36
It's so hard to keep up with, though. People seems to be constantly finding new things to be offended by and it's getting unreasonable. Of course anything racist is bound to be unacceptable, but then you get things like this: (https://twitter.com/weismanjake/status/993697668315529216?s=21)
Quote from: “Twitter Guy”One of the best ways to hurt an artistic person is to wait until right after they finish a long project and then ask them "so what's next?"

...and all the back-patting twitter hugs from everyone in the replies who have just realised that it offends them too, while all secretly wishing they had been the first one to have thought of this new angle, this new way to acquire twitter hugs.

Absolutely moronic. I even got blocked by someone because of that thread.

So no, giving up your seat for an elderly lady is not a problem. But when you wake up every morning and find that actually, now the done thing is to not use a seat in the first place, just in case an old lady needs one.... okay, so i'll Stand... but now apparently old ladies don't like seeing people standing because it reminds them of their lack of agility and they get upset. So now we have to use a seperate carriage. Before you know it, just mentioning trains will trigger all the old people, but more than that it will trigger everybody else as well because we all want to get offended on everyone else's behalf.

I will happily avoid racial slurs and I am in solidarity with everyone of all genders and sexual preferences. But there is a point where I will defend my right to ask an artist whose work admire “what's next?” And I will shout the word TRAIN in your face whenever the above hypothetical scenario occurs.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 17/06/2018 03:45:54
Wow, Stu. I'm reading that feed and, those people attacking you in there are just... I have no other word but... WOW!

Also: you are now officially a hero of mine for this:

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Stuart Forbes @StuartForbes
May 10

I dabble in creative attempts, but no I guess I can't presume to call myself an artist. I've clearly demonstrated that I lack the imagination to turn a simple question into a beautiful work of abstract expressionism.

(laugh)(laugh)(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sun 17/06/2018 03:56:26
Yeah, that's when she blocked me. Haha.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 17/06/2018 04:03:31
Quote from: Stupot on Sun 17/06/2018 03:56:26
Yeah, that's when she blocked me. Haha.

Hahahahaha! I would have had to have said at least "touche"...

Spoiler
...before blocking you.
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sun 17/06/2018 10:09:26
I don't see how the twitter example has anything to do with political correctness, and extremely sensitive artists are by no means a new phenomenon. As long as there have been art, there have been artists interpreting everything that isn't immediate praise as bullying, and others, often with artistic aspirations themselves, jump on because it means no one can criticize what they like either. I think this is more about artists with inflated egos and fandoms rather than any form of pc-culture.

I think it's worth remembering that whenever you think that pc-culture is stupid, the opposing side will do something even stupider. For example, in Sweden there's a treat made of butter, cacao, sugar and oatmeal rolled into a ball that's nowadays called chocolate-ball (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havregrynskugle), but in the 1950's they used to call it n-word ball. When this was changed for obvious reasons, lots of old people complained about the name change, but most people today do prefer the name that actually describe what the chocolate balls taste like and does't imply that the balls were created by castrating a black man.

Likewise, when several people wanted to expand the Swedish language by introducing a third, gender neutral pronoun, lots of people protested and put up tons of ridiculous straw-man arguments about "shall we be forced to burn all the old books with the old pronouns in them" and "kids won't be allowed to be girls and boys anymore", none of which ever happened when the third pronoun became popular. People in Sweden didn't stop using he or she as pronouns, most people simply discovered that having a gender-neutral pronoun is a good option to have for situations when you want to adress both men and women at the same time.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 19/06/2018 13:58:42
On the one hand, I completely understand why that person posted what Golliwog meant. The person seemed to be trying to be helpful, but their response to you was completely out of order. It was THAT person who was being passive-aggressive, you were simply correcting them.
I've actually heard people complain to me about the word crackers being offensive, as that's what black people call white people in America. But that won't stop me from using the word, because A: that's what we call those things we pull apart at Christmas, and B: what else am I supposed to call people who crack games?

Quote from: Mandle on Fri 15/06/2018 09:35:08
She is bowing down to this SJW (who is white of course)
It grinds my gears when people use the word SJW. People use it too much to dismiss others. I've heard people who certainty are NOT an SJW being called an SJW, just because they say things that other people disagree with. The world is starting to become overrun with SJWJWs who call everyone SJWs!
These are the same people who claim everything is becoming offensive, and I hate it when people are easily offended about other people apparently being easily offended! And Facebook is full of people who are trying to find every excuse to be offended about easily offended people!
What's worse, is that I've not seen a single person notice this meta trend! :~(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Tue 19/06/2018 14:48:55
There's too damn much pc now in the world and it makes me sick. We will have generations who will be afraid of everything. I read about a woman who wanted to ban that book/story...which one is it. The sleeping beauty? The one where she wakes up by a kiss from a prince. The woman thought that the message frpm that story is that it's ok to take advantage of passed out women...come on...really?!? I am so sick of that stuff. People who do bad stuff will do it no matter what book you ban.

Oh and the fact that people still refer to each other by colour is just stupid...some people act like we're not even the same species...who gives a crap if a cat is white or black or whatever? It's still a cat. Even though cat's don't have different culture like humans, we are still all humans. Racism is stupid. It's actually not that difficult to just tolerate each other but many people won't even try it. No it's better to immediately hate someone because we are different. I will never understand why we can't just leave each other in peace instead of in pieces. That my good people, is what grinds my gears :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 19/06/2018 16:57:00
Quote from: Danvzare on Tue 19/06/2018 13:58:42
It grinds my gears when people use the word SJW. People use it too much to dismiss others. I've heard people who certainty are NOT an SJW being called an SJW, just because they say things that other people disagree with. The world is starting to become overrun with SJWJWs who call everyone SJWs!
These are the same people who claim everything is becoming offensive, and I hate it when people are easily offended about other people apparently being easily offended! And Facebook is full of people who are trying to find every excuse to be offended about easily offended people!
What's worse, is that I've not seen a single person notice this meta trend! :~(
I couldn't agree more! SJW is so broadly applied that it's practically a meaningless term.

Quote from: Mouth for war on Tue 19/06/2018 14:48:55
There's too damn much pc now in the world and it makes me sick. We will have generations who will be afraid of everything. I read about a woman who wanted to ban that book/story...which one is it. The sleeping beauty? The one where she wakes up by a kiss from a prince. The woman thought that the message frpm that story is that it's ok to take advantage of passed out women...come on...really?!? I am so sick of that stuff. People who do bad stuff will do it no matter what book you ban.
Unless that woman is a high up political leader with a huge following, I don't see how she could possibly ban that book, and I don't think random opinions of a random person alone will never be a threat to free speech.

Many complain about too much political correctness, but the opposite is far worse, because when racist and sexist jokes are commonly accepted, racists and misogynists will feel that their views are justified and some of them will feel emboldened to act on their views. I have seen so many fandoms and communities that could have been great be ruined by bullying, girls being automatically harassed and threatened just because they are girls and anyone who isn't white gets barraged with racist slurs. This is one of the few communities I've found where I actually feel welcome enough to share my thoughts and my work without risking being bullied and harassed, and this is also why I am wary of comments complaining about pc culture going to far, because I have seen too many others use such words as an excuse for advocating threats and harassment directed towards queer people, women, people of color or anyone that is part of a minority.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Tue 19/06/2018 18:49:41
I just know that the person behind the labels and colours is what matters the most to me. Nice and respectful people are always welcome in my life.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Tue 19/06/2018 22:09:23
It's lamentable that competitive trash talk in a competitive environment becomes harassment when someone of feminine sensibilities is thrown into the mix.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 19/06/2018 22:38:38
Quote from: Jack on Tue 19/06/2018 22:09:23
It's lamentable that competitive trash talk in a competitive environment becomes harassment when someone of feminine sensibilities is thrown into the mix.
This is what I meant when I say I'm weary of complaints about pc culture. Most women can tell the difference between harassment and mere trash talk, and not all men feel comfortable hearing racist or homophobic slurs, and it's tiresome to see people dismissed as oversensitive when they have legitimate grievances. I know plenty of women who have not only faced severe harassment and bullying, but also stalking, rape threats and threats of severe violence, and many men who have faced homophobic insults and similar threats just for standing up to women or speaking up against racist comments. It might be easy for somebody who have never experienced any such threats to dismiss it as mere words, but people who are born as women, as LGBTQ or as an ethnic minority have been made to learn early on that they risk facing violence just for who they are, that others like them have become victims of horrible crimes for letting their guard down, and there is too often little in the way of telling if a bigoted joke is just going to stay a joke or if if the person behind it have something more sinister in mind. So while to some, it's just mean jokes, to others it's a stark reminder that there are people out there who sees them as less than human.

And if it's anything else that grinds my gears, it's that what used to be a fun thread about everyday annoyances has devolved into a sad discussion on "SJWs".
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Tue 19/06/2018 23:13:39
Oh, the harassment is real in many cases. Not the physical kind which pretty much never happens, but real verbal harassment. The nail that sticks out gets hammered.

It's a bunch of guys trying to shoot each other in the head, and the culture is pretty much at the level of discussing the unbelievable size of Nemo's mom's rear end. In comes Sally the friendly explorer, saying "hey, guys" in a squeaky and irrationally optimistic voice. Its as if a lamb walks into the lion's den. There's a moment of silence and then all hell breaks loose. What used to be namecalling from everyone to everyone else immediately turns into same from everyone to the new person, because they don't fit in. It's an ancient ritual. The new member is tested to see if they can measure up to the group. But Sally doesn't know this, cannot know this.

So yes it's lamentable that these guys can't put themselves in Sally's shoes. Now they feel that they have lost their forum for the discussion of the frankly distressing geological scale of Nemo's mom's butt, just because of Sally. They leave this community to find another that might be less censored and probably even more crass, and Sally is left alone trying to open a dialogue with the nazis in a WW2 game. And no one is happy.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 20/06/2018 03:13:33
It really grinds my gears when every work day in a week is a beautiful sunny day (because I can't fully enjoy it) and every day off is bleak and rainy (because then I'll just stay home).

It also grinds my gears when every work day in a week is bleak and rainy (because I have to go out in it) and every day off is a beautiful sunny day (because then I have no excuse to just stay home).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Wed 20/06/2018 03:33:32
Quote from: Mandle on Wed 20/06/2018 03:13:33
It really grinds my gears when every work day in a week is a beautiful sunny day (because I can't fully enjoy it) and every day off is bleak and rainy (because then I'll just stay home).

It also grinds my gears when every work day in a week is bleak and rainy (because I have to go out in it) and every day off is a beautiful sunny day (because then I have no excuse to just stay home).

Haha, so very true my friend, so very true!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 20/06/2018 13:50:47
A game maker's best friend is rain :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 20/06/2018 16:15:37
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 20/06/2018 13:50:47
A game maker's best friend is rain :-D
This is why Sweden has such a strong game industry. :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 20/06/2018 18:08:17
Jag håller med dig ;-D (I agree with you)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Thu 21/06/2018 10:39:50
How about slow loading GUIs on anything like phones, consoles, computers, it's just a few pictures and some text! It's as if we're constantly kept in a state of crapiness!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Thu 21/06/2018 10:59:45
61 pages and still no one has solved the riddle.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Thu 21/06/2018 11:10:43
What grinds my gears, is when shops only have 1 till open when there's a big queue, and keep the other 10 tills closed.  :angry:
What's the point in having multiple tills, when they don't get used?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 21/06/2018 12:25:22
Quote from: Frodo on Thu 21/06/2018 11:10:43
What grinds my gears, is when shops only have 1 till open when there's a big queue, and keep the other 10 tills closed.  :angry:
What's the point in having multiple tills, when they don't get used?
It's because they're understaffed, and the staff are struggling just to keep the shelves stocked and the prices up to date.
Although I have to agree with you. What IS the point of having multiple tills if they never get used? If you don't intend to ever hire more than ten people, don't have ten tills! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: ManicMatt on Thu 21/06/2018 13:30:50
These companies want you to use the self service, so they can hire less people, which is exactly what has happened. I guess having more tills is useful for breakdowns and Christmas time when they hire temps, but I absolutely refuse to use self service, and in the case of some shops I've been in where NO tills were open, I made the on hand staff member scan everything through, and if they start trying to teach me how to use it I'd tell them not to bother.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 21/06/2018 16:17:19
It grinds the hell out of my gears as well and also when you only have 1 or 2 items you need to buy and the person in front of you has their whole damn cart full of stuff and won't even consider to let you go before them. I always do that myself if I have a lot of stuff
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Thu 21/06/2018 20:21:14
Man, I sooo agree with this. Reason I despise going to Wal-mart. 20 tills and on a regular basis maybe 3 are open so you are usually forced to use the self check-out and of course as Mouth of war said you have to wait on inconsiderate people with a full or multiple full carts while you just want to check-out your 1 or 2 items, grrr!!!:angry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 21/06/2018 21:10:47
Yeah, sometimes I ask if I can go ahead because "I'm in a hurry" usually it's ok. Sometimes it's totally to your advantage to look like a criminal :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Thu 21/06/2018 21:16:56
Every time I use a self service checkout, something goes wrong and a member of staff has to fix it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 21/06/2018 22:24:54
I never liked self-service checkouts, I always end up paranoid that I'll forget to scan something and they'll think I'm trying to shoplift, plus I've always detested self-service as a concept, it's just a lazy way for the greedy cheapskates who run the place to cut corners while pretending to be more modern and effective.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Fri 22/06/2018 02:59:26
Also what really grinds my gears is when something is blocking your lane, a car pulled over by the police or broke down on the curb, so you kindly put on your blinker to change to the other lane when everyone behind you does the same and darts around you not allowing you to therefore having to stop and wait for the inconsiderate people to finally clear the way so you can finally change lanes. SMDH!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Fri 22/06/2018 09:35:11
Oh don't even get me started on traffic stuff. Not much can piss me off faster than morons in traffic, people who don't keep their distance, those who must drive past you when the 2 lane road is just about to turn into 1 lane. People who always drive a lot slower than the speed limit on streets where you can't drive padt them. Those who just step on it at an intersection so that you must hit the brakes or smash into them. Sometimes I would like to have a keyboard inside and everything I type would appear on a screen in the back window...oh that would be so great :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 22/06/2018 11:34:49
Every morning here in Japan I see cars racing through the red light at the same intersection so long after the lights have changed that they are dodging pedestrians already walking out onto the crossing. One time I even pulled back a schoolboy by the shoulder who they wouldn't have seen over their bonnet in time.

I have spoken to police I see on the street to report this intersection and advise that they put a patrolman there from 8AM every morning until 10AM. But this never happens.

Meanwhile my wife and I get stopped and handed a warning ticket for riding our bicycles side-by-side on a country road with absolutely no traffic as far as the eye can see.

Gives me such a warm fuzzy feeling every time I pay my city taxes.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dayowlron on Fri 22/06/2018 12:40:08
I hate the ones that drive 80 mph to get in front of you then slow down to 50 mph.
There is also a place where 2 lanes meet up with the other 3 lanes from the right then just up ahead about 100 feet the right lane exits and its an exit i have to use to get to work. So i have about 100 feet to move over 2 lanes and there is always someone in the far right that doesnt want to exit so they choose then to move over so any opening in the traffic they take. They had at least a few miles to get in the correct lane while i have 100 feet to move over 2 lanes. (hope i explained this well enough)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 22/06/2018 19:45:19
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Thu 21/06/2018 21:16:56
Every time I use a self service checkout, something goes wrong and a member of staff has to fix it.
You ever had it give you the wrong change? Or none at all?
I've seen that happen TWICE!
Once to my mother, and once to my father. Both times the staff had terrible manners, thinking they were just out to steal.
Both completely different stores as wells.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Fri 22/06/2018 21:17:44
Quote from: ManicMatt on Thu 21/06/2018 13:30:50
These companies want you to use the self service, so they can hire less people, which is exactly what has happened. I guess having more tills is useful for breakdowns and Christmas time when they hire temps, but I absolutely refuse to use self service, and in the case of some shops I've been in where NO tills were open, I made the on hand staff member scan everything through, and if they start trying to teach me how to use it I'd tell them not to bother.
I prefer self check-out actually.  I can handle my own items.  I just hate long lines.
Quote from: Mouth for war on Fri 22/06/2018 09:35:11
Oh don't even get me started on traffic stuff. Not much can piss me off faster than morons in traffic
Same here!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 22/06/2018 23:10:16
Self-checkout machines grind my gears too. I know the it's become a bit cliché to joke about ‘unexpected item in the bagging area' but when the only item in the bagging area is a frigging bag you know something is wrong with this technology. I much prefer a human cashier to serve me... and I don't even like people.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 22/06/2018 23:12:44
Quote from: Stupot on Fri 22/06/2018 23:10:16
I much prefer a human cashier to serve me... and I don't even like people.

Also you live in a country where cashiers almost never deviate from the script.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 22/06/2018 23:33:32
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 22/06/2018 23:12:44
Quote from: Stupot on Fri 22/06/2018 23:10:16
I much prefer a human cashier to serve me... and I don't even like people.

Also you live in a country where cashiers almost never deviate from the script.
oh god yeah. Don't get me started on the cashiers here. They'll ask a question and then don't even listen to my answer before moving onto the next step of the transaction. Or they'll tell me the total price of the shopping before I've had a chance to tell them I want to buy a coffee and pay some bills when I'm clearly waving a handful of utility bills and looking at the coffee menu going 'ummmm'

I've worked in a corner shop, for six years. I know it can get repetitive but damn me Japan does repetition very very well. It's how they learn everything in school. It's why they can listen to the same peice of music, or even the same 10-second jingle over and over and over again all day long. I would go mental if I worked in “Bicu bicu bicu Bic Camera”
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 23/06/2018 00:02:31
Quote from: Stupot on Fri 22/06/2018 23:33:32
I would go mental if I worked in “Bicu bicu bicu Bic Camera”

Hahahaha! Yeah, and how about the electronic chimes noise whenever someone enters or leaves a convenience store? At rush hour, like 8AM-9AM that thing just keeps going and going as if some AGS game dev set the audio to play on repeat by mistake.

Even as a customer in there for 5 minutes max I feel like finding the speaker and ripping it out of the wall!!!

I guess maybe it's like a bad smell. If you're constantly in it you just stop noticing?

Another thing about those in-store jingles: Why do they even have them?! Why are they using their advertising jingle in their store that I'm already in?!

Also, it cracks me up when I go to the supermarket and they are playing the Indiana Jones theme at high volume as their Musak!

I made up some lyrics that I sing along to it, much to my wife's shame:

"O-KAIMONO!...BOKEN-DA!...O-KAIMONO!...SU-BA-RASHIKU!...O-KAIMONO!...BOKEN-DAAA!...O-KAIMONO! KAIMONO! KAIMONO-DAZE!"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Sat 23/06/2018 19:29:15
How about Windows 10 reverting settings every time it updates! Some games are impossible to play if the laptop's trackpad is disabled when a keyboard key is pressed. You can't do the old WASD and mouse! I keep having to switch it off! WHY?!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sat 23/06/2018 20:50:40
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Sat 23/06/2018 19:29:15
How about Windows 10 reverting settings every time it updates! Some games are impossible to play if the laptop's trackpad is disabled when a keyboard key is pressed. You can't do the old WASD and mouse! I keep having to switch it off! WHY?!
Budget cuts. Low quality programming.

Or maybe it resets telemetry settings too?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sun 24/06/2018 10:34:13
Because they want you to use the product the way they want it to work! Don't be so independent! :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 27/06/2018 14:55:15
Maybe I'm sensitive now but what really grinds my gears is when someone has written a really long post in a forum (that can also grind my gears if the point they want to make could've been done in the last 2 sentences or so) and people must quote the entire post only to say "I totally agree" not even adding something to the post...ooooh how it grinds my gears. :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 27/06/2018 15:48:22
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 27/06/2018 14:55:15
Maybe I'm sensitive now but what really grinds my gears is when someone has written a really long post in a forum (that can also grind my gears if the point they want to make could've been done in the last 2 sentences or so) and people must quote the entire post only to say "I totally agree" not even adding something to the post...ooooh how it grinds my gears. :-D
I totally agree
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 27/06/2018 17:28:59
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 27/06/2018 15:48:22
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 27/06/2018 14:55:15
Maybe I'm sensitive now but what really grinds my gears is when someone has written a really long post in a forum (that can also grind my gears if the point they want to make could've been done in the last 2 sentences or so) and people must quote the entire post only to say "I totally agree" not even adding something to the post...ooooh how it grinds my gears. :-D
I totally agree

I disagree
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 27/06/2018 18:22:59
Haha I knew that was gonna happen when I wrote that. "Someone WILL quote this" it was a short post though so nothing to worry about :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: selmiak on Thu 28/06/2018 11:31:21
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 27/06/2018 18:22:59
Haha I knew that was gonna happen when I wrote that. "Someone WILL quote this" it was a short post though so nothing to worry about :D

I see what you did there and kind of agree!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 29/06/2018 15:13:24
It grinds my gears when I have to endure "creative" DVD menus in order to watch a movie.
You'd think not making the default text white and the text on the option you've chosen highlighted in pale yellow would be an easy thing to do, but I've seen it in far too many menus, alongside nearly unreadable fonts and blaring music looping in an annoying 15 second loop repeating endlessly until you've found the right language option. And far too many DVD also have irritating animations swishing by whenever you pick an option.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 29/06/2018 16:12:29
Quote from: Blondbraid on Fri 29/06/2018 15:13:24
It grinds my gears when I have to endure "creative" DVD menus in order to watch a movie.
You'd think not making the default text white and the text on the option you've chosen highlighted in pale yellow would be an easy thing to do, but I've seen it in far too many menus, alongside nearly unreadable fonts and blaring music looping in an annoying 15 second loop repeating endlessly until you've found the right language option. And far too many DVD also have irritating animations swishing by whenever you pick an option.

OHHHH!!! THIS SOOOOO GRINDS MY GEARS AS WELL!!!

Isn't it just amazing when you have a menu with two text options and two colors for the text except you don't know which color means "activate" and which means "ignore" until you try some trial and error?

It's also as wonderful as a big pile of #%$* when the menu cutscenes actually SPOIL major scenes in the movie you are just about to FRIGGIN' WATCH!!!

Also: Don't you just love it when a DVD that you paid money for has an unskipable trailer section at the start?!

I can understand this on rental DVDs but I would think that part of the price I just paid to buy the damn thing would include the right to just skip the advertising, right?!

I even own a few DVDs that were thoughtful enough to include an unskipable trailer for... THIS DVD'S MOVIE!!! The only way to skip is to fast forward, so I gotta close my eyes for the time that I'm guessing it takes to get past the spoilers in the trailer.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Tue 03/07/2018 10:44:15
I don't know if ‘Grinds my gears' is the right place for this. Maybe we need a ‘what makes me sick' thread.

I don't get why people post and share abuse videos on Facebook. Usually they're accompanied by captions like ‘this is sick, please share'. But my question is what good does sharing it do other than to upset people who follow you on Facebook? People who share these things do so because they rightly find it disturbing and must feel like it's helping somehow. But how?

I consider myself quite difficult to offend. I can stomach some pretty graphic stuff. But some things are just beyond sick and I find it so weird that otherwise normal intelligent people might think that it's somehow necessary to share something so horrific to their friends, some of whom may be extremely sensitive to certain types of abuse or violence.

I'm posting this because a friend of mine posted a video which just appeared on my timeline unsolicited and started autoplaying. I'll describe it in spoiler tags below but it almost brought me to tears moments before I was about to teach a kids class.

Spoiler
Basically it's a video of a mother brutally whacking her small baby with a pillow.
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The only good thing to come out of the fact that I nearly cried and felt sick to my stomach is that I guess it means I'm not a psychopath.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 03/07/2018 11:29:51
@Stupot :~( Jesus, I would ask that person why they thought I would want to see such a thing.

And ahhhhhhhh, Facebook... That's a whole Grinds My Gears thread in itself right there.

I have been on social media of one kind or another basically since I got the internet in 1998 or so...

And I have ended up quitting all of them. Which is why, when Facebook came along, I didn't even consider joining until I needed it as a means to stay in touch with friends in other countries easily. For this purpose it is awesome!

But then, of course, I got curious and started reading and then commenting on other people's posts. I should have known this was a mistake after having seen what always ends up happening with social media over and over again.

And, as usual, it devolved into a stress-creating pattern for me where I would see friends sharing the stupidest and most obviously made-up videos and such. When I try to show them that this information, which they seem to be basing their real-life worldview on, is fake, and even provide proof that it has been debunked and even that believing it can cause real harm, I am often met with either an angry response from someone defending the rubbish, or a comment like "So, it's fake? So what? Why do you want to spoil the fun for everyone else?"

I mean, are we really in a world where real and fake don't matter anymore as long as it's something to believe in?!

I'm talking about really stupid stuff like "sun-eating": The belief that if you stare at the sun for a certain amount of time each day you will eventually not need to eat food anymore because your eyes will absorb all the nutrients from sunlight that your body needs.

I saw a friend share a video about this and say they were going to give it a try.

I posted telling them that all they are going to end up doing is damaging their eyesight, potentially forever. And, OMG, so many angry responses telling me that just because I didn't understand it doesn't mean it's not true and that I should "open my mind" instead of just rejecting new possibilities.

The friend in question eventually deleted the post and I talked them out of trying this dangerous idea. Who are the trolls making these videos with the obvious end-goal being to hurt stupid people's eyesight?!

Another one was a video encouraging people to go out and wander in the forest and encounter wild animals like bears as a life-changing and uplifting experience.

I posted for people to please remember that wild animals might have their own agendas other than becoming an uplifting experience for human beings.

I still sometimes get likes for that post, which actually gives me a little bit of hope but... seriously... GRIIIIIIND...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Tue 03/07/2018 13:31:37
I haven't come across Sun-eating yet but that is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. I wonder if that was invented by Trump supporters to explain why he looked directly at the eclipse that time.

One thing that gets me is that there are genuine flat-Earth believers out there. If it wasn't so scary it would be fascinating. It's not the fact that they think the Earth might be flat that gets me. It's the fact that they seem to genuinely believe it without any sense of irony or tongue-in-cheekness. I really struggle to believe that there's not some part of them who's just going along with it for a bit of fun.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Wed 04/07/2018 03:45:36
And what about all these ridiculous "challenges" that keep popping up?! Our youth is just brainwashed. They will try anything for attention even if it can be fatal! Hoping their video will go "viral" SMH! :angry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 04/07/2018 04:35:14
Quote from: josiah1221 on Wed 04/07/2018 03:45:36
And what about all these ridiculous "challenges" that keep popping up?! Our youth is just brainwashed. They will try anything for attention even if it can be fatal! Hoping their video will go "viral" SMH! :angry:

I think though that these "challenges" have always existed for teenagers and have pretty much always been dangerous. Of course in the old days they spread slower and weren't as visible as now, but existed nonetheless.

A popular one where I lived was sneaking onto the local army base land while they were doing drills, sometimes live-fire drills. I must admit I went along on one of these adventures with friends. Not during live-fire practice though. It was a red-team/blue-team capture-the-flag kind of drill. We ended up "captured" by the red-team and "held hostage" for about 30 minutes so we couldn't give away their position. It was pretty cool though. The army dudes were nice and even let us try out their rations packs, which were awful! Even the chocolate was pretty bad. Then they let us go, making sure we left the area. Didn't turn us in for trespassing or anything. So we got lucky. But imagine if they had been a bunch of assholes or gung-ho nuts. Older kids used to sneak in behind the mounds they were firing live ammo at and hide there for kicks, which could obviously end really bad.

So yeah, I think most kids always did these kind of things as stupid challenges, it's just that now they spread fast on social media so everyone is doing the same ones instead of it being different per locality.

Kids will be kids...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Wed 04/07/2018 16:18:41
This pretty much settles it! I'm from another planet and nobody told me! (wtf)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 04/07/2018 17:41:25
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Wed 04/07/2018 16:18:41
This pretty much settles it! I'm from another planet and nobody told me! (wtf)

8-0 Oh, usually the people doing these stupid challenges are male... I guess we think it will impress you females... But you don't even notice... Human reproduction is a genuine miracle!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Wed 04/07/2018 18:41:45
LOL
Notice? I never heard of such idiocy before internet! (roll)

PS - And most of my good friends from childhood were males! As I was never much interested in "girl games/play time"... (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 05/07/2018 09:36:18
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Wed 04/07/2018 18:41:45
LOL
Notice? I never heard of such idiocy before internet! (roll)

PS - And most of my good friends from childhood were males! As I was never much interested in "girl games/play time"... (roll)
I always figured guys did that sort of things to impress other guys, trying to prove who's the toughest etcetera. (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 05/07/2018 12:44:56
Quote from: Blondbraid on Thu 05/07/2018 09:36:18
I always figured guys did that sort of things to impress other guys, trying to prove who's the toughest etcetera. (roll)

Yeah that too. But I guess the most alpha-male of the group does attract some girls' attentions so a bit of both probably.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Fri 27/07/2018 15:30:19
What grinds my gears is dogs on those extendable leads, getting in everyone's way and tripping everyone up.  :angry:
Normal leads give owners much more control over their dogs.

Also, I saw a woman on the bus today with her 2 dogs, and each dog was lying on a seat, so that other people had to stand.  :angry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Fri 27/07/2018 15:37:02
Well,

some owners treat their pets as humans... I don't like dogs in the house...they should be cared for outside.

And on the bus seats would be a no no...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: ManicMatt on Fri 27/07/2018 16:35:10
Quote from: Slasher on Fri 27/07/2018 15:37:02
some owners treat their pets as humans... I don't like dogs in the house...they should be cared for outside.

There's a big difference between treating a pet like a human, and letting it be inside a house! Especially how hot it is where I am, a dog would just die in this heat. :(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 27/07/2018 16:40:15
Quote from: Frodo on Fri 27/07/2018 15:30:19
What grinds my gears is dogs on those extendable leads, getting in everyone's way and tripping everyone up.

But without them we wouldn't have had the first puzzle in the Blackwell series!

(I remember Dave Gilbert mentioning what an absolute pain coding that puzzle was so that the leash behaved just right.. (laugh) )
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Wed 08/08/2018 19:52:46
Super Market Frozen Pizza Toppings Distribution.

So I pop the oven on in preparation to scoff down a tasty pizza. Just before the oven gets to temperature I take the super market frozen pizza out of the fridge and introduce it to the pizza baking tray. Often then not at this point I am in shock at the sheer incompetence of the pizza company's ability to distribute the toppings evenly on the surface of the pizza. The very companie's that clearly state their product is best cooked frozen.

So out with my stake knife and tea spoon, and with a combination of both, some dexterity and a lot of brute force I embark on spending at least 5 mins hacking my way through the completely solidly frozen pile of toppings. It's either that or wait for the pizza to thaw somewhat that often results in a sub-par tasting pizza. Yes they really do taste much better when put into the oven frozen.

Mind you its not all frozen pizza companies that seem to have no control whatsoever in the placement of toppings, yet, surprisingly it seems to most happen with the larger, internationally recognized brands.

Its as if somewhere along their production line, the pizza base arrives by conveyor at a person (or chimp) whos only sole job it is is to place the toppings on the base of the pizza. Of course all this person's focus is on clock-out time, so instead of taking even the most primitive care to place the toppings in some basic fair and even distribution, they grab a fist of mozzarella, swing their arm over to the pizza base and simply open their first over it, repeat with other toppings and off this horrific mess goes  to be fossilized through deep freezing.

But wait, you would think these large companies would have machines to place the various toppings, surely automating the process will result in a consistent even distribution of toppings, perhaps so if they bothered to calibrate their machines to start doing so.

I say...

(https://i.imgur.com/I7CokwQ.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Thu 09/08/2018 08:59:14
I think they thaw a little and shift during transport.  But either way, it has always ground my gears as well...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 09/08/2018 10:41:24
Quote from: dactylopus on Thu 09/08/2018 08:59:14
I think they thaw a little and shift during transport.  But either way, it has always ground my gears as well...

I doubt that... They would be stored flat and therefore any bump in the road wouldn't do much. Also, frozen goods are usually not allowed to thaw majorly at any point during transport by existing companies.

By which I mean: Any company that lets its frozen goods thaw out to a major degree before reaching the consumer probably doesn't exist anymore.

I'd say the original post is spot on saying that the initial prep is at fault.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Thu 09/08/2018 10:48:03
You should have seen/tasted the UK's first commercial frozen pizza's....

Beyond words... YUK springs to mind with the taste of cardboard...(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Thu 09/08/2018 20:39:34
I actually had a nice frozen pizza just last sunday... for once in my live it was good and properly balanced. (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 09/08/2018 22:15:09
Quote from: Slasher on Thu 09/08/2018 10:48:03
You should have seen/tasted the UK's first commercial frozen pizza's....

Beyond words... YUK springs to mind with the taste of cardboard...(laugh)
From my travels in Scotland, I've found most of the UK's food in general to be kind of greasy and not having much taste. :-\

Still though, there's no excuse for uneven pizza toppings. The most annoying part for me is when the shredded cheese is spread out so that it's all over the edges, giving you no way of eating the pizza without getting your hands dirty,
or in worst case scenario drip down over the crust and down into the oven.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Fri 10/08/2018 09:07:07
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 09/08/2018 10:41:24
Quote from: dactylopus on Thu 09/08/2018 08:59:14
I think they thaw a little and shift during transport.  But either way, it has always ground my gears as well...

I doubt that... They would be stored flat and therefore any bump in the road wouldn't do much. Also, frozen goods are usually not allowed to thaw majorly at any point during transport by existing companies.

By which I mean: Any company that lets its frozen goods thaw out to a major degree before reaching the consumer probably doesn't exist anymore.

I'd say the original post is spot on saying that the initial prep is at fault.
Fair enough.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Fri 10/08/2018 10:15:36
Uff frozen pizza is almost heretic IMO. It's always better to do it yourself but I understand there's not the time for it. I don't know how it is where you guys live but here, if you don't want to make the bread yourself you can simply buy just the bread from a pizzeria then you go home and put whatever toppings you'd like...I prefer doing it from scratch dough (yes pun intended) :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 10/08/2018 10:32:11
Quote from: Mouth for war on Fri 10/08/2018 10:15:36
I prefer doing it from scratch dough

This just ground my gears!!! ;-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Fri 10/08/2018 14:08:05
Oh pizza real shame that I made you upset with this. Yeah that's right I can say even worse!!! :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 14/08/2018 13:52:18
Here's something that grinds my gears.
You get a game that a lot of people recommend. You play it a bit, but you find it incredibly boring and tedious. All of the recommendations seemed to have neglected to mention that the feature they hyped on about, is actually a tiny aspect of the game, and that the whole game is a boring slog with plenty of questionable design decisions. You complain about the game, BUT because the game is known among its fanbase for being "difficult", everyone reacts by saying that all you need to do is "git gud".

The game wasn't even difficult! It was just boring!
I've played difficult games! I've even enjoyed games that are so difficult that I can barely make any sort of progress in them, let alone complete them! The reason I dislike this game isn't because it's difficult! It's because it was CRAP! >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 14/08/2018 18:38:51
@Danvzare
I agree, it reminds me of when people say stuff like "You totally have to watch this show! Sure, it starts off really bad, but after the first two seasons it gets good!". I used to be less picky with what games I played and what books I read and so on when I was a teenager, but at some point you will realize that your time isn't infinite, and time spent watching a bad show or playing a bad game is time wasted that you could have spent watching something actually good, and I'm done wasting my free time on something mediocre just in the hopes that it could potentially turn good in the future. I have a personal rule, that if a piece of entertainment fails to give me any intrigue, entertainment or any other good reason to keep watching within the first 15 minutes, I'm done with it, and I've never regretted having that rule.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 15/08/2018 11:02:04
Another thing that grinds my gears.
The fact that review scores go from 7 to 10 (or 70 to 100).
Apparently, anything less then a 7, is the equivalent of getting a 0.

Maybe it's just me, but 7 seems like a pretty good number. If 5 is average, and 6 is above average, than 7 must be pretty good. But nope. According to reviewers it goes like this:
7 - Bad
8 - Good
9 or 10 - Great
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 15/08/2018 12:05:10
Continuing with this ratings convo:

It really grinds my gears that Finding Dory has something like a 94% rating on Rotten Tomatoes (and about an 85% viewer rating) when it was just as much an insult to the original movie as Cars II was to Cars I...Worse actually because the original Cars was only alright, but Finding Nemo was one of the greatest modern animated films.

I know I'm probably late to the party here but I only watched Finding Dory yesterday for the first time and ...wow ... It was crap!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Thu 16/08/2018 05:29:18
Quote from: Mandle on Wed 15/08/2018 12:05:10
Continuing with this ratings convo:

It really grinds my gears that Finding Dory has something like a 94% rating on Rotten Tomatoes (and about an 85% viewer rating) when it was just as much an insult to the original movie as Cars II was to Cars I...Worse actually because the original Cars was only alright, but Finding Nemo was one of the greatest modern animated films.

I know I'm probably late to the party here but I only watched Finding Dory yesterday for the first time and ...wow ... It was crap!

Haha, funny that you mention that. Finding Nemo is one of my fav. animated films since The Lion King. I've had Finding Dory on my "to watch list" for the past 2 years, every time I think about wanting to watch it I always have something else I want to watch instead. Seems that has been a good thing, lol!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 16/08/2018 08:54:45
Quote from: josiah1221 on Thu 16/08/2018 05:29:18
Haha, funny that you mention that. Finding Nemo is one of my fav. animated films since The Lion King. I've had Finding Dory on my "to watch list" for the past 2 years, every time I think about wanting to watch it I always have something else I want to watch instead. Seems that has been a good thing, lol!

I'd be interested to hear your opinion if you ever do watch it. Of course, when I say it was crap, I mean crap for a Pixar film: It was visually lovely, it was funny a few times, but I feel it was really aiming mostly at the kiddies and selling a bunch of new character merch to them.

For example: there is absolutely NO reason for Nemo to come along on the mission and it actually makes Marlin look like a very irresponsible parent for bringing him along. If we accept that they probably live in The Great Barrier Reef a journey to California is potentially much more dangerous than the trip to Sydney (even though the actual journey only takes like 3 minutes of film time... hahaha... yeah... pretty dumb). Nemo is obviously only in the movie because the kids expect him to be. He has no reason to be there and his presence changes the story in no way, except he is quite nasty and obnoxious to Marlin at times just to give him lines to speak I guess.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Thu 16/08/2018 13:06:47
If anyone asks me to rate something I use: buy, borrow, avoid.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Fri 17/08/2018 22:31:13
@Mandle: If I do watch it, which I eventually will, I'll let you know my thoughts.

OK, stupid Captchas grind my gears to no end!!!! Yes I'm a damn human, stop making me type in nonsense words and click on stupid pictures >:(>:(>:(

(https://i.imgur.com/Gl4SN5d.gif)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 18/08/2018 03:00:50
I actually enjoy the reality-check now and then to prove to myself that I'm a human.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dayowlron on Sun 19/08/2018 21:26:58
josiah, I saw that animation quite a while back. Thought it was funny that the very last scene looks like a limp penis laying on the desk.

OK something that grinds my gears.
First I need to start with my wife is in a wheel chair. We have a van that has a ramp that comes down on the right side, so we need a parking space that has open area or no parking area on the right side. places have handicap area just for vans like this, but most places we go there seems to always be someone parking in them. They do have handicap plates so it is legal, but I wonder how much they are really handicap. I wouldnt be surprised if some of their handicaps are sleep apnea or something. ANYWAYS, I have to block some people in so I can get the wife in or out of the van and then park in a regular spot. the thing is I go into the establishment/store and everyone in there has no problem walking around. I think the government just hands out handicap placards to anyone who asks for one. I would be ok if they have trouble walking long distances but when there is a parking space almost as close as the handicap parking and they don't have trouble getting in and out of the car then why take it from those who really need it. Anyways that is something that grinds my gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: AnasAbdin on Sun 19/08/2018 21:48:33
dayowlron I can totally relate. My father is on a wheelchair as well. Sometimes I find parked cars with no handicap card or anything. I once saw a guy leaving the facility I was taking my dad to, I talked to him about the handicapped spot, he actually said that since I (as a driver) am not handicapped then I shouldn't park there too :-\ literally left me speechless.

Typical bimbo responses: "It'll only be a minute." "Oh I didn't notice the sign." "What are the chances someone might need it?"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Sun 19/08/2018 23:41:43
@Dayowlron, haha, very true!

I completely agree with the handicap parking deal. That crap has always pissed me off! Makes me want to keep a sledgehammer handy and crack kneecaps, then they really WILL be handicap!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dayowlron on Mon 20/08/2018 02:07:24
I just go if they aren't physically handicapped then they must be mentally handicapped, but still pisses me off.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Mon 20/08/2018 05:58:22
Quote from: dayowlron on Sun 19/08/2018 21:26:58
josiah, I saw that animation quite a while back. Thought it was funny that the very last scene looks like a limp penis laying on the desk.
I don't usually see that much blood around a limp penis.  Am I doing something wrong?

Quote from: dayowlron on Mon 20/08/2018 02:07:24
I just go if they aren't physically handicapped then they must be mentally handicapped, but still pisses me off.
That's always my reaction, too!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 20/08/2018 22:49:08
When it comes to handicap parking, there are people with neurological disorders that leave no visible mark but still cause great pain when they move,
and to those people I can imagine having a slightly shorter walk to the shop would make a great difference even if they aren't confined to
a wheelchair. But if they don't have any handicap card or anything else in the car I don't see any excuse.

I think that to the sort of otherwise healthy people who park in handicap spaces, their mindset is that since handicapped people are a minority,
to them a minority means rare -> unlikely to meet one today -> might as well not exist. It's the same sort of pervasive thinking that makes
people skip seatbelts just because the majority of cars don't crash when people drive them.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dayowlron on Tue 21/08/2018 03:17:48
You know even though most places the handicap places are closer to the door, there is a few where the handicap spots are actually farther away. not that they are the farthest parking spots but that there is some parking spots that are closer to the door than the handicap spots. I dont mind that at all cause it is not the distance to walk to the door that bothers me, but that I need at least 6 feet or more to the right of the van to lower the ramp and wheel her out. I can understand that if they have some condition where walking is painful then they do have a right to a handicap spot. I just feel that there is so many that just get it cause of some injury that may have completely healed and they just keep the placard or they get one for a elderly parent and then use it when the parent is not with them.
As far as people parking in the spots that don't have a placard or handicap plates the fines can get really high so you don't see that much here. depending on the state and the judge it could range from $250 to $750.
Anyways I have spoken my peace about it so I will get off my soapbox.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 21/08/2018 10:09:55
Quote from: dayowlron on Tue 21/08/2018 03:17:48
they get one for a elderly parent and then use it when the parent is not with them.

I know someone who still does that even though her father, who the handicapped plate was for, died like 7-8 years ago. And this person even brags about getting away with it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Mon 24/09/2018 18:23:59
What grinds my gears... is the lack of big, comfy chairs with cushions at the bus stop.  :tongue:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dayowlron on Mon 24/09/2018 18:52:59
you have chairs at your bus stops? we only have a sign. Glad I don't ride the bus.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Mon 24/09/2018 21:38:20
We have hard benches.  No comfy chairs with cushions.  :cool:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Mon 24/09/2018 23:26:37
Quote from: Frodo on Mon 24/09/2018 21:38:20
We have hard benches.  No comfy chairs with cushions.  :cool:
I believe that's deliberate, to deter people from hanging out there too long and also so as not to attract homeless people to sleep on them
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Tue 25/09/2018 00:23:33
(https://i.redd.it/f8y2jpywxzl11.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Tue 25/09/2018 01:18:00
Now that's a bus stop (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Tue 25/09/2018 10:54:38
Quote from: Jack on Tue 25/09/2018 00:23:33
(https://i.redd.it/f8y2jpywxzl11.jpg)

Perfect!  :grin::grin::grin:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Tue 25/09/2018 11:11:59
Damn that's a comfy looking bus stop :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Tue 02/10/2018 17:25:01
Been stuck in hospital for a few days.  :undecided:

What grinds my gears, is the teeny, miserly 'portions' of margarine they give you with bread at breakfast in the mornings, is not enough for a slice of bread.
Gluten Free bread is smaller than normal bread, and the 'portion' of margarine is STILL not enough for 1 slice of bread.  :sad:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Tue 02/10/2018 17:55:48
Being told that the expensive brand is by far the better... not in all cases, and supermarkets grind my gears...

Don't buy that for 99p buy this one, it's better at £1.50 >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Tue 02/10/2018 19:13:14
Quote from: Slasher on Tue 02/10/2018 17:55:48
Being told that the expensive brand is by far the better... not in all cases, and supermarkets grind my gears...

Don't buy that for 99p buy this one, it's better at £1.50 >:(

I'd rather have this other one at 75p.  :cool:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 03/10/2018 12:43:49
Quote from: Frodo on Tue 02/10/2018 19:13:14
Quote from: Slasher on Tue 02/10/2018 17:55:48
Being told that the expensive brand is by far the better... not in all cases, and supermarkets grind my gears...

Don't buy that for 99p buy this one, it's better at £1.50 >:(

I'd rather have this other one at 75p.  :cool:

But that one is smaller. You get more for less if you buy the 99p one. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sun 14/10/2018 16:41:36
It grinds my gears that Disney is churning out pointless live action remakes of their animated movies. Not only has all their remakes looked ugly, visually cluttered and even terrifying, because cute and pretty things in a simplistic cartoon-style doesn't automatically translate into cute and pretty in live action, but their single reason for existing is because they want to cash in on the nostalgia of people who loved the original movies but are too cowardly to admit that they love cartoons, so they need a suitable live-action substitute instead. It's the ridiculous mindset that live action movies with CGI are inherently more serious and grown up than animated movies on full display, despite all you'd need to see how insane that claim is to compare this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pts8XVwXe7o) movie clip to this (https://youtu.be/tb9kVTItw3I?t=142) clip.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Sun 14/10/2018 17:59:57

I don't think that Disney-thing is aiming to nostalgic, more to who don't like to watch an 20 years old cartoon. There are people that if a black and white movie runs on tv think it's broken! (laugh)

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sun 14/10/2018 21:53:03
Quote from: TheFrighther on Sun 14/10/2018 17:59:57
I don't think that Disney-thing is aiming to nostalgic, more to who don't like to watch an 20 years old cartoon. There are people that if a black and white movie runs on tv think it's broken! (laugh)
Well, then it's their fault for missing out on some truly great films just because they are in a different format than what they're used to.
But the classic 2D cartoons still looks as beautiful as they were decades ago while 90% of all CGI effects in live action movies look dated five years later.
I get that not all people like animated movies, but can any sane person honestly say that this:
(http://d2vpb0i3hb2k8a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2017/03/03/bella1.jpg)
Looks better than this?
(https://www.cosmopolitan.de/assets/2016/05/24/83915-die-schoene-und-das-biest-der-allererste-trailer-ist-da.gif)
All the vibrant colors are drab in the remake and the beast looks like he's right in the uncanny valley,
while the original still looks like a storybook illustration brought to life.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Mon 15/10/2018 10:20:15
I really miss those good old days when everything was done by hand.

The recent thing that grinded my gears: Starving after being jusy all day. I ordered a pizza abd what do I see when I come home? Everything covered with bad quality ham and they took it out of the oven 5 minutes too early. Even putting it in the oven at home to at least make it look a little better couldn't save that abomination they dare to call pizza. I was so tired and hungry to that point that I was about to throw up and pass out so I had no strength to do anything about it just then. I don't undetstand how a craphole "restaurant" like that can survive. Who in their right mind would consider that edible? WHO i ask you, Who?!? :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on Mon 15/10/2018 10:49:42
If you're lamenting CG, the ballroom sequence of Beauty and the Beast (1991) is a strange choice. The backdrop is pretty famously CG:

https://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/25-years-ago-cg-secrets-ballroom-sequence-beauty-beast-145174.html
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Mon 15/10/2018 11:54:56
I never cared much for Disney anyway but I agree it's rather pointless to remake all their old back-catalogue in live action. I guess they don't have to pay any writers.

One Disney film I did like was Aladdin. I know they're remaking that, too. I'll definitely be interested to see how they do it but I won't be rushing out to watch it on the first night.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 16/10/2018 12:43:27
Quote from: Gurok on Mon 15/10/2018 10:49:42
If you're lamenting CG, the ballroom sequence of Beauty and the Beast (1991) is a strange choice. The backdrop is pretty famously CG:

https://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/25-years-ago-cg-secrets-ballroom-sequence-beauty-beast-145174.html
That's true, but the CGI is well integrated with the 2D animation, and more importantly, it's a good example
of different animation techniques combined to create a mood and artistic expression, and it's stylized to look magical
and fit the fairy tale tone, compared to the drab colors and poor design choices in the remake meant to be "realistic".
Quote from: Stupot on Mon 15/10/2018 11:54:56
I never cared much for Disney anyway but I agree it's rather pointless to remake all their old back-catalogue in live action. I guess they don't have to pay any writers.

One Disney film I did like was Aladdin. I know they're remaking that, too. I'll definitely be interested to see how they do it but I won't be rushing out to watch it on the first night.
I really didn't like the teaser I saw for the Aladdin remake, it looked like it had all the same problems as the other remakes. For example, compare this shot in the trailer:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNzA1YTM0MzAtNjBjMi00MzAxLWEzYWItNTg3Y2Q3NTk4ZjZiXkEyXkFqcGdeQWFybm8@._V1_CR251,0,1419,798_AL_UY268_CR84,0,477,268_AL_.jpg)
To the corresponding scene in the animated movie:
(https://tasirlipikir.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/aladdin-magiclamp.jpg)
The cinematography in the above shot is simply terrible, everything is a cluttered mess and all is drenched in the same blue color,
making it hard to tell what is even going on. It honestly took me several seconds just to see where Aladdin's arms were because it was so busy.
Meanwhile, in the animated version, the camera is deliberately angled away from all the treasures in the background when Aladdin picks up the lamp,
because the lamp is the focus of the scene, and likewise, the colors of Aladdin and the lamp is clearly contrasted against the simple blue background.

So it's not just that the remakes are creatively bankrupt, but they actively ruin all the great visuals and cinematography of the originals too.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 16/10/2018 15:47:27
Interesting example Blondbraid. And just gave me a thought:

Perhaps one extra reason why they show the treasure trove in the background in the live action version is because it's an actual set they spent money on and want to show it off as much as possible to justify that. Whereas in the animated version it would have cost extra money to show it in the scene where it wasn't needed so, wisely, they did not.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Tue 16/10/2018 16:37:34
Although CG is a milestone ahead in graphical effects it tends to take away the who beauty of most old films...

Look at Dynomation for instance...

Take the original Sleeping Beauty...nothing can take away the fantastic colours and atmosphere of it all..

Leave well alone I say... It grinds my gears when they ruin such art...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 16/10/2018 17:15:16
Quote from: Mandle on Tue 16/10/2018 15:47:27
Interesting example Blondbraid. And just gave me a thought:

Perhaps one extra reason why they show the treasure trove in the background in the live action version is because it's an actual set they spent money on and want to show it off as much as possible to justify that. Whereas in the animated version it would have cost extra money to show it in the scene where it wasn't needed so, wisely, they did not.
But the problem is that most the backgrounds in the remake is CGI anyway, so it would still take time and money to animate, and there is no way to justify that terrible blue light that take away all depth and contrast from the image.

As for the original shot, it's still Disney. If they wanted more background detail, they could have afforded it. Making the background empty was a deliberate artistic choice.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 17/10/2018 01:28:36
Quote from: Blondbraid on Tue 16/10/2018 17:15:16
As for the original shot, it's still Disney. If they wanted more background detail, they could have afforded it. Making the background empty was a deliberate artistic choice.

I think you're right in this case. But actually the image of Disney being willing to shell out unlimited funds on every project is not always the case, especially when Aladdin came out.

Aladdin came out at a time when Disney was still struggling back from the verge of bankruptcy. They almost went under due to a lackluster string of films during the 70s and 80s. The Little Mermaid had been their first hit in ages and, while praying that Aladdin was going to continue that trend, they weren't going to risk it all on the project.

Much of the CGI used during the magic carpet escape from the Cave Of Wonders were placeholders (and it shows) but they had already run out of budget and were forced to leave them as is. Luckily the audience of the time was still wowed by CGI in animated films and didn't notice too much how truly shoddy it was.

For the same budget reasons the final scene had to be cut. Remember how the movie starts with the travelling peddler who is our narrator? And he is also voiced by Robin Williams? It always seemed odd to me that the narrator never returns at the film's end to bring us back out of the story.

Well, he was supposed to. And the scene would have revealed him to actually be the Genie who had disguised himself as a human to travel the world after being set free. This is also why the peddler has the now non-magic lamp in his possession.

But all the money was gone so they, sadly, had to cut this scene which I think would have made Aladdin even more of a masterpiece of animation than it already is.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Mon 22/10/2018 07:41:38
What Grinds My Gears (GMG) is when people use an expression and then put the acronym of that expression in brackets after it but then never refer to that thing again for the rest of the text.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on Mon 22/10/2018 08:43:24
Quote from: Stupot on Mon 22/10/2018 07:41:38
What Grinds My Gears (GMG) is when people use an expression and then put the acronym of that expression in brackets after it but then never refer to that thing again for the rest of the text.

I thought that was Gets My Goat!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Click'd on Mon 22/10/2018 10:11:19
Green Man Gaming
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 22/10/2018 10:13:03
It's always bothered me when people overuse acronyms while taking it for granted that everybody knows what they mean.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Mon 22/10/2018 10:19:51
Ohh it really grinds my gears when people write should of/would of. I may have already vented my frustration about this earlier in the thread but when I read the above posts, it all came back to me. That's how bad it grinds my gears :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Mon 22/10/2018 10:40:21
Quote from: Mouth for war on Mon 22/10/2018 10:19:51
Ohh it really grinds my gears when people write should of/would of. I may have already vented my frustration about this earlier in the thread but when I read the above posts, it all came back to me. That's how bad it grinds my gears :-D

You should of checked back earlier in the thread to see if you already posted about it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Mon 22/10/2018 14:05:55
I really should of have done that :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: ManicMatt on Mon 22/10/2018 15:56:09
They could of done that, have course.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Tue 23/10/2018 09:01:54
Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 22/10/2018 10:13:03
It's always bothered me when people overuse acronyms while taking it for granted that everybody knows what they mean.
Oh my goodness, this is the worst!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Tue 23/10/2018 11:09:16
Pretentious bastards :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Wed 24/10/2018 02:50:41
What grinds my gears is sitting at a 4 way stop and the vehicle to my right, who has the right of way, just sits there. So I start to easy forward, then they do, so I stop, then they stop. Ugh! Come to find out the driver was waving for me to go but I couldn't see them through their blacked out windows. (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Wed 24/10/2018 08:39:17

What grinds my ears is the young boys that buy online a pair of sneakers at 1000$ 'cause are limited edition... well knowing that who are selling bought it at 200$!

_
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 24/10/2018 09:51:47
I wouldn't even pay $200. Not for something whose literal purpose is to be repeatedly pumped into a filthy pavement on a daily basis.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Click'd on Wed 24/10/2018 10:29:50
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 24/10/2018 09:51:47
I wouldn't even pay $200. Not for something whose literal purpose is to be repeatedly pumped into a filthy pavement on a daily basis.
Maybe not the case with sneakers, but when you buy more expensive clothes where you don't pay for the brand name but for the craftsmanship, this will save you lots of money in the long run. Cheap shoes have to be replaced more often.

Also, they might not wear the stuff but treat it as an investment.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 24/10/2018 10:57:58
I'm not entirely convinced. The people who spend that kind of money on sneakers, they generally want to be seen wearing them.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Click'd on Wed 24/10/2018 11:12:33
Maybe they buy two pairs.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Wed 24/10/2018 11:15:44
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 24/10/2018 10:57:58
I'm not entirely convinced. The people who spend that kind of money on sneakers, they generally want to be seen wearing them.
At a certain point, yes, you're right.  I have purchased $20 shoes, and they wore out quickly and needed to be replaced.  I have purchased $100 shoes and they have had a much better lifespan.  They lasted easily as long as 5 pairs of the other shoes.  But craftsmanship can only be so good, and materials will wear out and break down.  I'm not sure I believe $200 shoes would last as long as 2 pairs of $100 shoes, etc.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Click'd on Wed 24/10/2018 12:27:00
Let me grind something related: I'm tall and left-handed, so tools and clothes for me are both rare AND expensive.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 24/10/2018 21:31:23
Quote from: ClickClickClick on Wed 24/10/2018 12:27:00
Let me grind something related: I'm tall and left-handed, so tools and clothes for me are both rare AND expensive.
There are similar problems when shopping women's clothes. No pockets, shirts and cardigans that can't be buttoned all the way up, and weird tailored sleeves that doesn't let you raise your arms comfortably.
And if you'r taller than 1.50 nine out of ten times clothes your size will be already sold out.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gurok on Wed 24/10/2018 22:49:26
Quote from: Blondbraid on Wed 24/10/2018 21:31:23
And if you'r taller than 1.50 nine out of ten times clothes your size will be already sold out.

150cm? That's pretty short.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 24/10/2018 23:49:00
Quote from: Gurok on Wed 24/10/2018 22:49:26
Quote from: Blondbraid on Wed 24/10/2018 21:31:23
And if you'r taller than 1.50 nine out of ten times clothes your size will be already sold out.

150cm? That's pretty short.
Exactly, but every single time I try shopping for clothes nearly all the larger sizes have been picked off and maybe if you're lucky there's one left behind the pile of S and XS sized clothes.
I've no idea why stores even bother ordering so many surplus tiny clothes, but there's always a pile of them when I shop.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Thu 25/10/2018 05:57:20
Quote from: ClickClickClick on Wed 24/10/2018 12:27:00
Let me grind something related: I'm tall and left-handed, so tools and clothes for me are both rare AND expensive.

I'm short and left handed, so I definitely feel your pain!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 26/10/2018 22:55:27
Quote from: josiah1221 on Thu 25/10/2018 05:57:20
Quote from: ClickClickClick on Wed 24/10/2018 12:27:00
Let me grind something related: I'm tall and left-handed, so tools and clothes for me are both rare AND expensive.

I'm short and left handed, so I definitely feel your pain!

I've been left short-handed so I maybe feel your pain kind of...?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Sat 27/10/2018 02:26:50
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 26/10/2018 22:55:27
Quote from: josiah1221 on Thu 25/10/2018 05:57:20
Quote from: ClickClickClick on Wed 24/10/2018 12:27:00
Let me grind something related: I'm tall and left-handed, so tools and clothes for me are both rare AND expensive.

I'm short and left handed, so I definitely feel your pain!

I've been left short-handed so I maybe feel your pain kind of...?


(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 02/11/2018 23:20:20
IT REALLY, REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS THAT SOMETHING AS GLORIOUS AS THIS (http://www.math.toronto.edu/beni/bERNARDO_nOT_fOUND/fUNNY_sTUFF/Entries/2007/11/27_cookies.html?fbclid=IwAR1x6lIg9MaO_mS2nLnGEalmERlNeKbXIMy5ZFps9BQ5rQwSxGsXPt4BJX0) IS TURNED INTO SOMETHING AS TRITE AS THIS (https://www.facebook.com/JayShettyIW/videos/256522031874958/UzpfSTE0OTgzMjIyNjk6MTAyMTc5MTU2MzQ5MTEzNDY/) FOR THE SAKE OF LAMETARDS WHO NEED THEIR DAILY DOSE OF WARM-FUZZIES TO COPE.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 03/11/2018 00:38:15
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 02/11/2018 23:20:20
IT REALLY, REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS THAT SOMETHING AS GLORIOUS AS THIS (http://www.math.toronto.edu/beni/bERNARDO_nOT_fOUND/fUNNY_sTUFF/Entries/2007/11/27_cookies.html?fbclid=IwAR1x6lIg9MaO_mS2nLnGEalmERlNeKbXIMy5ZFps9BQ5rQwSxGsXPt4BJX0) IS TURNED INTO SOMETHING AS TRITE AS THIS (https://www.facebook.com/JayShettyIW/videos/256522031874958/UzpfSTE0OTgzMjIyNjk6MTAyMTc5MTU2MzQ5MTEzNDY/) FOR THE SAKE OF LAMETARDS WHO NEED THEIR DAILY DOSE OF WARM-FUZZIES TO COPE.
That story has already been retold at least a hundred times before, but with different treats, the oldest version came from a 1912 short story where a lady misstakenly takes 5£ from another woman on a bus, beliving that she had stolen it from her. It's basically an urban legend at this point, and being annoyed at one version is basically like being annoyed at a Robin Hood movie. No bother, they'll just make a new version to replace it next season.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Sat 03/11/2018 07:41:58
The thing that bugs me about it is how he has to spell out the subtext.  Subtext shouldn't need to be made a part of the telling of the story.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sat 03/11/2018 08:50:50
Quote from: dactylopus on Sat 03/11/2018 07:41:58
The thing that bugs me about it is how he has to spell out the subtext.  Subtext shouldn't need to be made a part of the telling of the story.
Yeah it's really basic “we shouldn't judge people by the colour of their skin” stuff that while I admit some people seem like they need reminding. But if you're old enough to have a Facebook account and still have to be reminded about that then you are beyond help.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 03/11/2018 09:05:41
Quote from: Stupot on Sat 03/11/2018 08:50:50
Quote from: dactylopus on Sat 03/11/2018 07:41:58
The thing that bugs me about it is how he has to spell out the subtext.  Subtext shouldn't need to be made a part of the telling of the story.
Yeah it's really basic “we shouldn't judge people by the colour of their skin” stuff that while I admit some people seem like they need reminding. But if you're old enough to have a Facebook account and still have to be reminded about that then you are beyond help.

That annoyed me as well, but what really grinded my gears the most was that a great comedic story was turned into some kind of "touching" FB video just to get views...

Read the last line of the best version of the story (http://www.math.toronto.edu/beni/bERNARDO_nOT_fOUND/fUNNY_sTUFF/Entries/2007/11/27_cookies.html?fbclid=IwAR1x6lIg9MaO_mS2nLnGEalmERlNeKbXIMy5ZFps9BQ5rQwSxGsXPt4BJX0) by Douglas Adams for one of the greatest punchlines of all time.

That's enough!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Sat 03/11/2018 09:58:05
True, the punchline was lost in translation.  That irks me as well.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sat 03/11/2018 11:12:21
Quote from: Stupot on Sat 03/11/2018 08:50:50
Quote from: dactylopus on Sat 03/11/2018 07:41:58
The thing that bugs me about it is how he has to spell out the subtext.  Subtext shouldn't need to be made a part of the telling of the story.
Yeah it's really basic “we shouldn't judge people by the colour of their skin” stuff that while I admit some people seem like they need reminding. But if you're old enough to have a Facebook account and still have to be reminded about that then you are beyond help.
Introducing skin colour into a joke or a story, when it doesn't need to be there, almost always ruins the joke or story.
I've got a very old joke book (from the late 1800 I think). 90% of the jokes are racist jokes. Of those racist jokes, 80% of them, I've read in modern joke books without the racist undertones. The modern versions of those jokes are a lot better, because they don't add needless fluff that distracts from the jokes.

It's kind of funny that we've been telling the same jokes for hundreds of years though. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 03/11/2018 12:06:29
Quote from: Danvzare on Sat 03/11/2018 11:12:21
It's kind of funny that we've been telling the same jokes for hundreds of years though. (laugh)

I guess there are only so many jokes to tell and we don't remember or live forever.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sat 03/11/2018 14:30:58
Nothing is created, everything is transformed. ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sat 03/11/2018 14:37:56
Circa 2018: Into rancid regurgitate, generally speaking.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sat 03/11/2018 15:06:06
@Dan. What's the title of the Joke book you mentioned?
I had one from the 70s that I found in my attic when I was 12. It must've belonged to my father. Only good thing I ever inherited from him.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 04/11/2018 16:09:37
Quote from: Stupot on Sat 03/11/2018 15:06:06
@Dan. What's the title of the Joke book you mentioned?
I had one from the 70s that I found in my attic when I was 12. It must've belonged to my father. Only good thing I ever inherited from him.
I think it's called "Make Them Laugh".
I'd have to look though to be sure. It's currently stored away in the attic, and I don't want to go around searching for it.
It's a red book though, in one of those awesome classic book covers. It's got one of those smiling masks in gold foil on the front.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Wed 07/11/2018 23:39:29
What grinds my gears are those dainty little click tabs holding plastic appliance covers together. Most of them are so thin they just break when opening, not to mention the marks almost always left by the opener.

But hey, it's cheap, and yet another thing motivating consumers to just buy a new appliance. Assholes.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 08/11/2018 01:26:10
Quote from: Jack on Wed 07/11/2018 23:39:29
What grinds my gears are those dainty little click tabs holding plastic appliance covers together. Most of them are so thin they just break when opening, not to mention the marks almost always left by the opener.

But hey, it's cheap, and yet another thing motivating consumers to just buy a new appliance. Assholes.

I tried a few times to visualize what it is you are talking about but failed.

Can you show a picture? I'm curious now.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 08/11/2018 12:28:14
What grinds my gears: you buy something from the super market and you look for the "best before" info...and where it's most convenient IMO it says "best before, see marking" if you know that people will look where that text is....so WHY THE HELL CAN'T YOU JUST PUT THE DAMN DATE THERE?!?! :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Thu 08/11/2018 18:25:02
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 08/11/2018 01:26:10
I tried a few times to visualize what it is you are talking about but failed.

Can you show a picture? I'm curious now.

This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWpMcXWlhBE) shows the opening of a standard modern remote. No screws is the standard now unless they are absolutely necessary.

If you look closely at the start of the video you can see from the marks on the finish that this remote has been opened before.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Fri 09/11/2018 12:06:14
What annoys me way more than it should is how people when asking for computer/programming help keep saying "every time I do X, Y happens", when they simply mean "when I do X, Y happens". The first version sounds like they are surprised that the outcome doesn't change. I'm sure it's just a colloquialism but it sounds absolutely moronic to my ears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 09/11/2018 12:57:50
What grinds my gears, is when a game doesn't work and it keeps spitting out an error message, and you look for help online on how get the game to work, by searching up that error message. But all you find is that the company who made the game knows about the problem because it's very common, and the only reason they've given is "Hurr durr, update your drivers."

Are you seriously telling me, that 99% of games (both newer and older than the one I'm trying to get working) work on my computer, but your one game doesn't, because my drivers aren't up to date?
Seriously? :-\

And what's worse, is that my drivers are up to date. >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 09/11/2018 13:54:17
What really grinds my gears is the increasing trend of AAA single player games needing to be connected online to the game company servers,
and lagging and freezing whenever your internet connection acts up, despite this being 100% unnecessary due to the games being single player,
they shouldn't need to be connected at all. It's just there so greedy executives can shove micro transactions and redundant sharing-your-progress features in the game.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 09/11/2018 14:27:02
Quote from: Blondbraid on Fri 09/11/2018 13:54:17
What really grinds my gears is the increasing trend of AAA games

100% agree!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sat 10/11/2018 12:57:37
Buy from gog.com or don't buy at all, that's become my motto. I also lean heavily towards linux support these days, and then there's the long list of games I own but have never played. On top of all this games-as-a-service garbage, AAA titles are so heavily politicised these days, it's just not worth it for me.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Click'd on Sat 10/11/2018 17:49:35
Gog has become A LOT shittier this year.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sat 10/11/2018 18:41:40
What happened?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Sun 11/11/2018 02:59:47
Quote from: Jack on Sat 10/11/2018 18:41:40
What happened?

They wrecked their entire site, so it doesn't work properly any more.  It's a complete nightmare trying to navigate through it now. 
-  There's an empty black banner taking up half the screen. 
-  Username at the top, linking to your account has gone.
-  The Search feature \ magnifying glass doesn't work (nothing happens when you click on it), so you can't search for any games.
-  Huge empty space under 'Now On Sale'.  I think it's supposed to show some games they have for sale... but it's just a blank space.
-  No News anywhere in site, so you don't know what's new to the store.
-  Go to any of the game pages, and there's a big empty space where there SHOULD be screenshots showing what the game is like.
-  Also on the game pages, it doesn't say if you already own that game - it used to, but not anymore.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Click'd on Sun 11/11/2018 03:09:57
I was more referring to them forcing PUBLIC profile pages on anyone, without option to say "no" for over a week and total silence on their part. Especially since Steam, of all places, went the other way not that long ago.

But yeah, the new homepage is a crime in itself. Even though I see the things Frodo apparently doesn't. The "news" are at the bottom, and far fewer items than before.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sun 11/11/2018 07:40:10
The adventuregamers.com website has gone tits up as well. At least for the mobile version.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: VampireWombat on Sun 11/11/2018 14:50:31
Quote from: Frodo on Sun 11/11/2018 02:59:47
They wrecked their entire site, so it doesn't work properly any more.  It's a complete nightmare trying to navigate through it now. 
-  There's an empty black banner taking up half the screen. 
-  Username at the top, linking to your account has gone.
-  The Search feature \ magnifying glass doesn't work (nothing happens when you click on it), so you can't search for any games.
-  Huge empty space under 'Now On Sale'.  I think it's supposed to show some games they have for sale... but it's just a blank space.
-  No News anywhere in site, so you don't know what's new to the store.
-  Go to any of the game pages, and there's a big empty space where there SHOULD be screenshots showing what the game is like.
-  Also on the game pages, it doesn't say if you already own that game - it used to, but not anymore.
That's weird, I just checked their site and had none of those problems. I'm guessing it's an issue with your browser, cookies, and/or permissions.
I'm using Chrome on Ubuntu.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Mon 12/11/2018 00:41:06
Quote from: VampireWombat on Sun 11/11/2018 14:50:31
Quote from: Frodo on Sun 11/11/2018 02:59:47
They wrecked their entire site, so it doesn't work properly any more.  It's a complete nightmare trying to navigate through it now. 
-  There's an empty black banner taking up half the screen. 
-  Username at the top, linking to your account has gone.
-  The Search feature \ magnifying glass doesn't work (nothing happens when you click on it), so you can't search for any games.
-  Huge empty space under 'Now On Sale'.  I think it's supposed to show some games they have for sale... but it's just a blank space.
-  No News anywhere in site, so you don't know what's new to the store.
-  Go to any of the game pages, and there's a big empty space where there SHOULD be screenshots showing what the game is like.
-  Also on the game pages, it doesn't say if you already own that game - it used to, but not anymore.
That's weird, I just checked their site and had none of those problems. I'm guessing it's an issue with your browser, cookies, and/or permissions.
I'm using Chrome on Ubuntu.

Try looking at it with IE 11.
Every other site works fine - it's only GOG that manages to break it up so much.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Click'd on Mon 12/11/2018 03:32:20
Question: Why do you use IE11?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Mon 12/11/2018 03:59:07
Why not use Internet Explorer 11?  It's a good browser, made for exploring the internet. 
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Mon 12/11/2018 10:09:38
Quote from: Frodo on Mon 12/11/2018 03:59:07
It's a good browser 
No, it is not. It is old, outdated and has a lot of weird bugs. It's a pain to create websites that also support IE11. Companies start to evaluate what is cheaper: continue supporting IE11 or loosing IE11 users as customers. It seems that many start to think that supporting IE11 is not worth the effort.
Switch to Edge or any other modern browser.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Mon 12/11/2018 10:41:05
Quote from: cat on Mon 12/11/2018 10:09:38
Quote from: Frodo on Mon 12/11/2018 03:59:07
It's a good browser 
No, it is not. It is old, outdated and has a lot of weird bugs. It's a pain to create websites that also support IE11. Companies start to evaluate what is cheaper: continue supporting IE11 or loosing IE11 users as customers. It seems that many start to think that supporting IE11 is not worth the effort.
Switch to Edge or any other modern browser.

Why would I want to switch browsers?  Internet Explorer is meant for Exploring the Internet.  It's in the name. 
And like I said, GOG is the only site that messes this up.  Every other site, including my own sites, work fine in IE11. 
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 12/11/2018 12:09:23
Quote from: Frodo on Mon 12/11/2018 10:41:05
Internet Explorer is meant for Exploring the Internet.  It's in the name. 
Strawberries aren't berries and Coconuts aren't nuts. Just because it's in the name, doesn't mean anything.
That being said, if you like Internet Explorer, then by all means, keep using it.

If you use another browser though, you'll eventually be glad you changed. But if you don't want to, that's your choice. :-D
Think of it as people telling you to brush your teeth in the morning and at night, instead of just at night. We're not telling you how to live your life, only what's better in the long term. ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 13/11/2018 13:34:33
I haven't seen any problems using GOG on chrome.

I still end up using Steam mostly since I already have a big library there and there are free Steam key giveaways every once in a while.
But while Steam is still fine for now as long as you only want to buy games you already know about, it really grinds my gears that they
absolutely refuse to curate the content on their store, and will only remove broken files, asset flips and troll games once enough people
actively go out of their way to protest and report them. There's even been reports of straight up bitcoin mining scams being sold masquerading
as "games" on Steam, all which could have been avoided if Valve required any form of application process for their games other than just paying a fee.

And the 100$ fee might sort out a few kids trying to upload their projects for fun, but it will not actually deter any of the scammers and and
charlatans hoping to make it back by tricking gullible gamers.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Mon 10/12/2018 03:03:21
What Grinds my Gears

Microsoft Windows File Search

Searching for files using windows DOSE NOT WORK,, IT DOSE NOT WORK

Further more the files search has not worked properly since windows XP, and has got gradually worse and worse with every release of windows. It has got to the point that it finds NOTHING.. EVER
I wait for up-to half an hour while it ******* searches for files I KNOW exist on HD. .but yet no,  **** it says windows.  What the **** are microsoft doing here?  I am beyond angry with this, this is pathetic beyond belief how a multi-billion dollar company with an established os going back so many years cant provide simple ass ******* file search option, instead they implement some ******* useless ******* thing that NEVER, EVER, i say again NEVER< EVER finds ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL

absolute shame on your MS ... SHAME ON YOU MS  you shower of incompetent ******* assholes, you cant even develop simple feature to search for files,, you are pathetic.  PATHETIC
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 10/12/2018 13:44:08
Ah, the Windows File Search.
No one understands how it works. There are those that say that all you need to do change a few settings to make it work properly.
While I completely relate to what you're saying, and I've had the exact same problem. Recently it's been working perfectly for me. And I have no idea why.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 10/12/2018 16:26:36
Windows can be awful sometimes, but at least it isn't Mac.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Mon 10/12/2018 22:38:35
I am sorry for my crazy rant. It is not such a major issue in my life really :)  (i was already in a bad mood)
Its still annoying as heck though.. I mean you would think a file search procedure would be a pretty straight forward operation.

I also forgot to mention along with windows taking ages to scan hd finding nothing when files clearly exists it was asked to find,  other times windows search literally dose not even bother to search.  you type a search term in and press search, windows search bar within a few seconds gets to the end as if its saying to itself   "oh search time..   searching.. um .. you know what, **** this, ill just stop right here and pretend a full search of a hd was done"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 11/12/2018 12:32:23
Quote from: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Mon 10/12/2018 22:38:35
I am sorry for my crazy rant.
Don't be sorry. That's what this thread is here for!

Continuning on with the thread, it grinds my gears when I can't find an email that's supposed to have been sent to me, so I tell the person who was supposed to send it to me, and the only response I get is "check your spam".
Why does this grind my gears?
BECAUSE I WOULDN'T HAVE ASKED IF I HADN'T ALREADY CHECKED MY SPAM!  >:(

Also, I couldn't post this on Chrome for some reason. I'm having to use Internet Explorer. I guess Frodo was right.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Tue 11/12/2018 14:16:14
Quote from: Danvzare on Tue 11/12/2018 12:32:23
Also, I couldn't post this on Chrome for some reason. I'm having to use Internet Explorer. I guess Frodo was right.  (laugh)


Internet Explorer RULES!   :grin:


But yeah, I agree with the whole 'Check your spam folder' thing.  Drives me nuts.   :sealed:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Tue 11/12/2018 23:21:26
Quote from: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Mon 10/12/2018 22:38:35I also forgot to mention along with windows taking ages to scan hd finding nothing when files clearly exists it was asked to find,  other times windows search literally dose not even bother to search.
You might want to try this: https://superuser.com/questions/98958/clear-search-cache-on-windows-7/99059#99059
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Thu 13/12/2018 00:55:14
Don't listen to Khris, they live in Germany.

For true enlightenment, you must consider Everything (https://www.voidtools.com/)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Thu 13/12/2018 13:44:06



Grinds my gear when i'm looking for a e-book in digital store, but it's sold-out! How is it possible go out of virtual copies?


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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 13/12/2018 14:25:07
Haha sold out...yeah I fail to see the logic there. "we will accept 2000 copies of the same document and sell those"      - "Hey i've got an idea. How about 1 copy with infinite purchases?"
-"Umm no"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Fri 14/12/2018 08:48:47



Yeah. I don't know how it works, but even if is more difficult to program sure it worth it...


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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gilbert on Fri 14/12/2018 09:01:36
I don't know. Maybe what I'm saying is just BS, but maybe it's possible that the limit on available copies was imposed in order to meet some law/contract/whatever requirements that only a particular number of licensed copies can be sold?

Maybe.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 14/12/2018 11:22:29
I'm certain it's due to artificially limiting goods for sale is a tried and tested method of driving up demand, and by driving up demand they can eventually drive up prizes.
It's another way of tricking the costumer into thinking what they're buying is rare and exclusive and that they have to buy it soon before it becomes unavailable again,
just as all big chains do with seasonal versions of their video game DLC/latte/hamburgers, not because they can't produce that all year round, but because it drives up
sales once they do have those things for sale.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Fri 14/12/2018 20:33:46
It is a bit odd, I always laugh a little whenever I see a "while supplies last" notice with digital goods.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Sat 22/12/2018 17:08:50
What grinds my gears, is those stupid, REALLY annoying pre-recorded answerphone messages when you're trying to call a company. 


-  Press 1 for Electrical
-  Press 2 for Home Furnishing such as settees and chairs
-  Press 3 for Kitchen appliances


*I press 3*


-  Press 1 if it's a shop's own brand
-  Press 2 if it's any other brand


*I press 2*


-  Press 1 if you're waiting for a delivery
-  Press 2 if you wish to cancel your order
-  Press 3 if you wish to change your delivery date
-  Press 4 if your appliance has broken down


*I press 4* 


-  Press 1 if it's still in guarantee
-  Press 2 if it's not in guarantee


*I press 1*


-  Press 1 if it's the original 2 year guarantee
-  Press 2 if it's the 5 year extended guarantee


*I press 2*


-  Press 1 if you'd like to talk to us about your product
-  Press 2 if you'd like to arrange an engineer to come and visit you


*I press 2*


Thankyou for your call.  Your call is very important to us.  We record these calls for quality and training purposes.  Please hold for the next available person.  Otherwise, please..........



AAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH   :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Sun 23/12/2018 05:43:20
UGHHHH! I miss the old days of talking to an actual human being!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 23/12/2018 17:35:32
Here's how you get around those annoying things.
Just keep pressing an invalid number. Eventually you'll be put through to a real person.

This is especially useful for when the dialog tree for those pre-recorded answerphone messages ends with "Get lost and go online." Which I've had.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Sun 23/12/2018 18:38:45
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 23/12/2018 17:35:32
Here's how you get around those annoying things.
Just keep pressing an invalid number. Eventually you'll be put through to a real person.

This is especially useful for when the dialog tree for those pre-recorded answerphone messages ends with "Get lost and go online." Which I've had.

Ahhh, good tip Dan.  Thanks.   :grin:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Mon 24/12/2018 03:32:14
Just go to any pathway that leads to any human and then tell them what you want. Either they'll patch you through to the correct department or sometimes they can still help you. I've never worked in a call center so I might be talking rubbish but I'm pretty sure that sometimes the calls go to the same people anyway. It's just that they can put the right hat on before answering your call.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Mon 24/12/2018 10:07:08
Quote from: Stupot on Mon 24/12/2018 03:32:14
Just go to any pathway that leads to any human and then tell them what you want. Either they'll patch you through to the correct department or sometimes they can still help you. I've never worked in a call center so I might be talking rubbish but I'm pretty sure that sometimes the calls go to the same people anyway. It's just that they can put the right hat on before answering your call.

I also think the calls go to the same people.

But there's never an option at the start, to 'Speak to an actual person' - you always have to jump through so many hoops first. 
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Tue 25/12/2018 14:03:19
pretending to find christmas cracker jokes funny. 
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: selmiak on Thu 27/12/2018 10:43:23
I know absolutely no christmas cracker joke, please tell a christmas cracker joke TMA, then I can at least pretend to find it funny ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Thu 27/12/2018 13:52:33
Who hides in a bakery at Christmas?

A mince spy.


(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Buckethead on Thu 27/12/2018 13:53:20
Christmas crackers are mostly just very bad puns, atleast in my experience. Here's an example:

What does Santa suffer from if he gets stuck in a chimney? Claustrophobia!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 27/12/2018 14:07:06
Quote from: Buckethead on Thu 27/12/2018 13:53:20
Christmas crackers are mostly just very bad puns, atleast in my experience. Here's an example:

What does Santa suffer from if he gets stuck in a chimney? Claustrophobia!

That is an awesome joke!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 27/12/2018 15:09:50
Quote from: selmiak on Thu 27/12/2018 10:43:23
I know absolutely no christmas cracker joke, please tell a christmas cracker joke TMA, then I can at least pretend to find it funny ;)
What do you get when you cross a snowman with a crocodile? Frostbite!
I think I encounter that one every year. Or at least a similar variant. Sometimes it's a vampire.

Quote from: Mandle on Thu 27/12/2018 14:07:06
Quote from: Buckethead on Thu 27/12/2018 13:53:20
Christmas crackers are mostly just very bad puns, atleast in my experience. Here's an example:

What does Santa suffer from if he gets stuck in a chimney? Claustrophobia!

That is an awesome joke!
It really is.  (laugh) I've never heard that one before.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Thu 27/12/2018 19:48:41
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 27/12/2018 15:09:50
What do you get when you cross a snowman with a crocodile? Frostbite!
That was actually my Christmas cracker joke this year.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Thu 27/12/2018 20:17:39
I don't know anything about Christmas crackers but I do love corny jokes!  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 28/12/2018 15:23:30
Quote from: dactylopus on Thu 27/12/2018 19:48:41
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 27/12/2018 15:09:50
What do you get when you cross a snowman with a crocodile? Frostbite!
That was actually my Christmas cracker joke this year.
I said that it appeared in every pack of Christmas crackers.  (laugh)

Personally, with how bad Christmas cracker jokes are, I kind of wish they'd go all the way and make them anti-jokes. It would actually make them funnier in my opinion, because you wouldn't expect it.
What do you get when you cross a snowman with a crocodile? A snow crocodile!
How do you stop a skunk from smelling? Spray it with perfume!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: jahnocli on Fri 28/12/2018 16:07:59
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 28/12/2018 15:23:30
Personally, with how bad Christmas cracker jokes are, I kind of wish they'd go all the way and make them anti-jokes. It would actually make them funnier in my opinion, because you wouldn't expect it.
What do you get when you cross a snowman with a crocodile? A snow crocodile!
How do you stop a skunk from smelling? Spray it with perfume!
No, that doesn't work. It goes beyond anguished groans and into uncomfortable silence broken by dry coughs...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 14/01/2019 14:37:38
What's really grinding my gears lately is the backlash against science by certain religions, woo-peddlers, and other cults that promote ignorance over the massive amount of knowledge that mankind has built up over time and depends on to just basically survive (so far) at our current population level.

Now, I cannot argue back against anti-vaxxers because I'm not a doctor or a medical scientist. Even if I learned everything I could about vaccines and how they obviously help humanity it wouldn't matter. People should just watch a video by an actual medical professional instead.

I cannot argue back against any religion because every argument ends with "God works in mysterious ways."... (I do have a few ideas to combat religious cults but they would take time and money I don't currently have... Reserved for a future project)

But there is one destructive cult that I know of that I know how to fight back against:

THE FLAT-EARTH MOVEMENT!!!

Sounds hilarious, right? Well, I thought so as well and started watching the whole circus of the flat-earth being defended and debunked on youtube. I even thought at first that it could be just a brilliant conjoined plan by the proposers of Flat Earth and the debunkers to gain exponential views and money on youtube.

But, the more I learned about what was going on the more I realized what a dangerous cult Flat Earth is. Still sounds silly, though, right?

The more I learned about the Flat-Earth movement the more and more I recognized it as a genuine cult which destroys lives... Many have lost their employment, their marriages, and the respect of their family and friends over this rubbish.

And what is even worse: Many of these people that believe the earth is flat are home-schooling their children into this belief, and/or are telling their children to remain skeptical whenever their teacher is talking about any topic concerning the earth being a globe.

So... I cannot fight anti-vaxxers (I'm not a doctor)... I cannot fight religious cults (yet)... But I know how to fight Flat Earthers!!!

One thing they always ask for (because they distrust any math or science) is repeatable and observable experiments that they can do themselves. And their own videos of their "experiments" are very, very shitty. So I'm appealing to that level of shitiness in the hope that this makes more of them identify with what I'm trying to do. Well, good videos are also really hard to do and usually fall short and are cringey... Aim low and I'll never fail!!!

So here is my playlist of exactly that so far:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT_hbdAMiUJp7ElOqhGewGOkf4VskmZkX

I would really appreciate it if people could become even silent subscribers to my channel as the youtube algorithm doesn't care and it helps push my content up on search lists.

Like I said before, if I can save even one person from ruining their life over something so silly like Flat-Earth that it should be a Monty Python skit, then making my shitty videos will have been worth it.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Mon 14/01/2019 20:47:57
hehe interesting,   but there is no convincing people otherwise who actually believe this stuff ,  it almost becomes pointless to try persuade them away from such theories. In fact i might go as far to say you have more chance in convincing an orthodox religious believer of the possibility of no god, then a flat earther of the possibility the earth is spherical in nature . The fundamental issue is, above all evidence and facts they desperately want to believe in what they want to believe in. There is no changing that stance no matter what evidence is presented.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 14/01/2019 23:43:30
Quote from: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Mon 14/01/2019 20:47:57
hehe interesting,   but there is no convincing people otherwise who actually believe this stuff ,  it almost becomes pointless to try persuade them away from such theories. In fact i might go as far to say you have more chance in convincing an orthodox religious believer of the possibility of no god, then a flat earther of the possibility the earth is spherical in nature . The fundamental issue is, above all evidence and facts they desperately want to believe in what they want to believe in. There is no changing that stance no matter what evidence is presented.

Yeah, they are a very frustrating lot. But the fight against this kind of backlash against science is growing and I have seen interviews with ex-flat-earth cult-members who mention videos by people like SciManDan and Conspiracy Catz as their reasons for realizing that they were wrong, so there is a slight hope for some.

I'm more interested in trying to reach the fence-sitters: vulnerable people who have looked into the flat-earth and are on the verge of getting sucked into it but have decided to look around and see it their ridiculous claims have been debunked somewhere first, which is why I try to attack their main arguments in my videos like:

* You can't see the horizon curve (and any video that shows it curving must have been taken with a fish-eye lens)
* The atmosphere could not exist next to a vacuum (they think vacuums are like vacuum cleaners and should suck the atmosphere off the earth)
* Crepuscular rays, the fanning rays of sunlight through holes or gaps in clouds, indicate a small and local sun.
* Gravity doesn't exist. Things only fall because they are denser than the air under them.

I even had a close friend tell me that he thought they kind of had a point with the atmosphere/vacuum thing and I spent the next twenty minutes explaining pressure gradients and such and perhaps pulled him back from the rabbit-hole entrance.

One of the ex-cult-members, in an interview, went as far to say that they considered suicide after realizing they had invested the last few years into something so meaningless and had lost their marriage and the respect of friends and family over it.

That was when I decided to have a go at fighting it myself because, unlike disproving God to religious people, there is actual science and easy ways to explain the concepts when it comes to debunking something as silly as the flat earth.

****************************************************************************************************************************************

Oh, and yes... One more thing that grinds my gears is how childish and frightened of debunkers these cult members are:

I had some videos up on my channel of the Halloween rooms we made for the kids at my school which were themed on Harry Potter and Star Wars. Since I started making this flat-earth debunking series these videos were hit with copyright claims so I made them private rather than face potential YouTube BS strikes against my channel.

I doubt the timing is a coincidence as several other debunkers on YouTube were hit with false copyright claims around the same time.

Scared little children.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Tue 15/01/2019 09:48:44
Seems like a good time to link hbomberguy: Flat Earth: A Measured Response (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gFsOoKAHZg)

HAIL SOBEK.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Tue 15/01/2019 11:10:55
Oh, Khris and Co.. You're non believers then?   (laugh)

That's why I never take long haul flights, in case the plane fell off the earth  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Tue 15/01/2019 11:57:57
It's hard to believe that there are people seriously thinking the earth is flat. Where do they expect to be the edge of the world?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Tue 15/01/2019 12:20:07
Quote from: Slasher on Tue 15/01/2019 11:10:55

That's why I never take long haul flights, in case the plane fell off the earth  (laugh)
Don't worry, there's the "Pac-Man effect"! (that's their absurd explanation of why if you fly straight then return at the same place)

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 15/01/2019 13:33:04
Quote from: cat on Tue 15/01/2019 11:57:57
It's hard to believe that there are people seriously thinking the earth is flat. Where do they expect to be the edge of the world?

Most of them think the AE map (basically the U.N. logo) is the map of the flat earth and that Antarctica is actually a giant ice wall that circles the circumference and stops all the water from falling off.

Their theories then differ on whether or not the flat plane continues on from there, possibly infinitely, or whether the whole shebang is covered by a dome with the stars on it, and other such anally-extracted fantasies.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Tue 15/01/2019 13:42:04
People who won't change their views/opinions no matter how hard they are proven wrong really grinds my gears. It really p####s me the hell off when you know you are 100% correct about something but the moron in front of you still says "No you are wrong" or "I must check this up"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 15/01/2019 14:14:22
Quote from: Mouth for war on Tue 15/01/2019 13:42:04
People who won't change their views/opinions no matter how hard they are proven wrong really grinds my gears. It really p####s me the hell off when you know you are 100% correct about something but the moron in front of you still says "No you are wrong" or "I must check this up"

Dude, just read the comments under that first video in my playlist. I was trying as hard as I could to talk sense into this bloody idiot "Flat Earth Aussie Jesus" after realizing with growing horror that not only was he a fellow Australian but also that we share the same first name.

I started out quite optimistic but eventually had to either give up or end up eating my own head out of frustration.

Then I eventually found peace in thinking that he is so far down the rabbit-hole that he can't possibly gain followers who are not already beyond any help and also that he probably needs this belief to prevent himself having to examine his life which could lead to him doing something drastic to himself or others.

So, yeah, a bit of a harmless old duffer hopefully.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 15/01/2019 14:55:48
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 14/01/2019 14:37:38
THE FLAT-EARTH MOVEMENT!!!
Fun fact, that whole thing started as a joke. I remember convincing one of my sister's friends into believing that I believed the world was flat, a good ten years or so before this whole flat-earther thing took off.
The joke was originally meant to be there as a way to poke fun of religion, and how absurd that it is to believe in that, and how easy it is to make an argument for anything. It was the original version of the flying spaghetti monster in a way. But unfortunately very few people understood the joke, and you ended up with everyone believing that these people claiming the world was flat, actually believed the world was flat. Then you got people who decided to join in on the craze, since they thought that if other people thought the world was flat, then they should also believe the world is flat.

It's a shame really.  :~(

Still, if you ever encounter a flat-earther, don't try to convince them that the world is round. They know (unless they're mentally handicapped). Instead try to convince them that the world is double sided, and that there's a massive conspiracy to cover it up.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Tue 15/01/2019 17:43:42
It's a bit older than that. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_flat_Earth_societies#Historical_context)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Tue 15/01/2019 19:54:13
Quote from: Mouth for war on Tue 15/01/2019 13:42:04
People who won't change their views/opinions no matter how hard they are proven wrong really grinds my gears. It really p####s me the hell off when you know you are 100% correct about something but the moron in front of you still says "No you are wrong" or "I must check this up"

Some people think religions are the only belief systems, but really they are everywhere. Beliefs are a funny thing, often they are seen as an investment, and sometimes people will attack anyone who challenges it whether they are right or wrong. Sometimes you can have a falsehood repeated to you so many times that the truth seems insane, especially if it concerns something big. Sometimes it's just a violent mental reaction to the suggestion that they are going to have to believe something different to everyone else.

Spoiler
For the stupid people here I have to say that I think the earth is round-ish
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What grinds my gears is how little effort most people put into their lives and their beliefs. Technology has come a long way, but after all most people are still more than content to ridicule something they don't understand, just for that dopamine rush of fitting in. There doesn't even have to be a crowd around them shouting down the weird inventor guy who says the earth is round, all it takes is the idea that others will not agree. There are very real facts that could mean the difference between life and death, and most people don't know them. What's more, they don't care to find out. Don't want to risk being wrong, and ending up like those flat earthers. Corporations and governments have spent billions over the span of decades refining ways to exploit these simple and predictable mechanisms, and yet people walk around oblivious to all this being piped into their heads unfiltered.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 15/01/2019 22:02:18
I find the Flat Earth to be nonsense, and I believe a big part of the reason why we're seeing so many of them now is due to this trend that I've noticed,
where many media profiles and much of pop culture have popularized the idea that if there is a huge division between two sides, taking the position in the middle
will automatically mean that you're smarter, and that if there are two sides both sides will have a legitimate point and deserve equal time and attention for a fair debate.

However, this ignores that there actually are "debates", if you can call them that, that are matters that are black and white and there are things that are proven true by scientists.
Anti-vaxxers aren't equal to real doctors, crystal healing isn't equal to real medicine and flat-earthers aren't equal to thousands of year's worth of science, but people who think themselves
"enlightened centrists" who are above conventional dogma and just like, asking the hard questions man, like to pretend those things are equal and that questioning science is deep,
yet ignore the flat earth movement started as a joke and was never even trying to be science to begin with, and these types only serve to legitimize the fanatics who 100% believes their conspiracy theories.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/MPRn3GHmA5pv2/200.gif)
Saying both flat-earthers and everyone else both makes good arguments is just stupid, it's not being neutral.
Trust me, I'm a Swede so I know a lot about being neutral.   :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Tue 15/01/2019 22:35:04
Vaccines are a bad example of that because the problem with that issue is the extreme views. Yes, companies sometimes do put toxic chemicals in it and don't care about the results, and politicians and the media do sometimes push useless and/or dangerous vaccines on people because they stand to profit from it. That does not mean all vaccines are bad, or that polio isn't real. The one extreme being wrong doesn't mean the other is right, although corporations and governments know some people "think" this way and exploit it.

But you brought up another thing that has really been grinding my gears lately, and that's people that won't see the difference between bad and good, or black and white as you put it. I get this is not totally what you meant.

Yes, there are in fact things which are bad for society and need to be removed. Like pedophiles. Right now there are people working for pedophile acceptance, and a lot of the time it's just to show off to others how open minded they can be, accepting the worst possible thing. (Other times of course it's just those that want the public to be ok with them taking advantage of children.) These people want to allow the mentally ill to run free just so they can subtly brag about how super progressive they are.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 16/01/2019 13:51:50
Reading these past few posts, has just made me realise that those ridiculous "slippery slope" arguments that close-minded bigots kept spouting out, were actually true.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 17/01/2019 05:48:16
I know tthis shouldn't grind my gears but it still does...kind of...HQ is "forcing" all the local bosses go to our capital (Stockholm) to take a course in leadership. I don't know what's so wrong with the way I do it "Sell and shut up and never make long stupid explanations/excuses for your mistakes":-D ok maybe not but...sometimes that IS close to the truth. Anyway...I had to get up at 5 am and my fellow game makers...we all know that 5 am ONLY exists if you're working on a game...or if you pig out after a game making session. I had zero sleep...sitting on the train as I type this...and that's what grinds my gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sat 19/01/2019 14:23:55
Flying blue's contact form grinds my gears!  >:(
I've been a member for a long time, never used the damn miles for anything yet, since I just don't fly that much. But even if I wanted to use my miles I couldn't! They added password to log on to the site... I always logged on with pin, so I didn't had a password. Last time I tried to logged on with pin cause I didn't had a password, I did... only to be meet with a second login "now please enter your password"...  8-0  ???  >:( So... I want to email them and get them to send me my password to my email, cause apparently I can't do that either on my own even though they have no problem in sending me "spam" mails, that they can do... So there I click "email flying blue" and what do I get? A login asking me for username and password! :O  >:( Only way to contact them? Seems to be by phone and I hate phone!  >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 20/01/2019 18:10:57
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Sat 19/01/2019 14:23:55
Flying blue's contact form grinds my gears!  >:(
I've been a member for a long time, never used the damn miles for anything yet, since I just don't fly that much. But even if I wanted to use my miles I couldn't! They added password to log on to the site... I always logged on with pin, so I didn't had a password. Last time I tried to logged on with pin cause I didn't had a password, I did... only to be meet with a second login "now please enter your password"...  8-0  ???  >:( So... I want to email them and get them to send me my password to my email, cause apparently I can't do that either on my own even though they have no problem in sending me "spam" mails, that they can do... So there I click "email flying blue" and what do I get? A login asking me for username and password! :O  >:( Only way to contact them? Seems to be by phone and I hate phone!  >:(
What... the..  8-0
I think "grinds my gears" is a bit of an understatement!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Galen on Sun 20/01/2019 22:41:04
QuoteYes, companies sometimes do put toxic chemicals in it and don't care about the results,


I'd like to see an example for this. Companies arn't wasting their time throwing random expensive chemicals into their vaccines. The most toxic elements that *were* commonly found were trace levels of formaldehyde or mercury (used to kill/preserve the virus) below the level at which they're naturally generated in the body anyway. Consumer drugs might sometimes be ineffective, but vaccines are normally rolled out to the general population and tend to be incredibly safe in comparison. Even then most consumer drugs that are in any way dangerous don't make it past the testing stage, with drugs like thalidomide (which is an effective drug in one chiral form, but extremely dangerous in it's mirror form) being rare exceptions in the past.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Mon 21/01/2019 01:47:50
One concern people have is the bio-persistent aluminium which is added to some vaccines as adjuvants, to boost immune response. This can cause immune activation in neonates, which above certain levels causes autism and psychiatric disorders, owing to the critical and delicate stage of brain development. In what is apparently the first study on neonatal brain development and vaccination, done in 2015, it was found that the Hepatitis B vaccine inhibited synaptic plasticity, exhibiting a "neurotoxic expression profile", increasing IL-6 expression (amongst others), which has been linked to genetic autism.

Hep B is a sexually transmitted disease. For the vaccine, wikipedia says "The first dose is recommended within 24 hours of birth".

Some studies I found:
Neonatal Vaccination with Bacillus Calmette-Guérin and Hepatitis B Vaccines Modulates Hippocampal Synaptic Plasticity in Rats (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282390680_Neonatal_Vaccination_with_Bacillus_Calmette-Guerin_and_Hepatitis_B_Vaccines_Modulates_Hippocampal_Synaptic_Plasticity_in_Rats)
Perinatal Immune Activation Produces Persistent Sleep Alterations and Epileptiform Activity in Male Mice (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320257170_Perinatal_Immune_Activation_Produces_Persistent_Sleep_Alterations_and_Epileptiform_Activity_in_Male_Mice)
Maternal Immune Activation During the Third Trimester Is Associated with Neonatal Functional Connectivity of the Salience Network and Fetal to Toddler Behavior (http://www.jneurosci.org/content/38/11/2877) (pre-natal)

EDIT: I should add that to my knowledge, it has not been proven that it's the aluminium that causes the immune activation. However, given lack of further testing and its function in the vaccine, this has been the best guess.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Galen on Mon 21/01/2019 16:46:35
Quotewhich above certain levels
Is undoubtedly critical though. We certainly don't need another wave of 'vaccines cause autism' scares to bring back yet more deaths by preventable diseases.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 22/01/2019 13:07:14
Quote from: Jack on Mon 21/01/2019 01:47:50
which above certain levels causes autism and psychiatric disorders
Psychiatric disorders, maybe. Heck, probably. I don't know much about that part, but it sounds plausible.
But autism. Seriously!
Do you even know what autism is! That's like saying it'll make you left handed, or gay, or black, or dyslexic!
You can't become autistic after birth.  (wrong)

Quote from: Galen on Mon 21/01/2019 16:46:35
Quotewhich above certain levels
Is undoubtedly critical though. We certainly don't need another wave of 'vaccines cause autism' scares to bring back yet more deaths by preventable diseases.
Ah, now THAT sounds reasonable.
Basically, it's like pointing out that water is poisonous if drank in high enough quantities.   (laugh)



Now the thing that grinds my gears, is that hardcore Pokemon fans, never seem to realise that canonically in the games, Pokemon don't say their name.
I don't mind that the casual Pokemon fans don't know that, but the hardcore fans definitely should!
The only Pokemon that says its name outside of the anime is Pikachu, the rest make animal noises. For proof, just read the manga, play the games, or watch Pokemon Origins.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 22/01/2019 13:24:40
I have watched medical experts state that the amount of aluminium you absorb naturally through even organically grown food in a week is quite a bit higher than the amount present in a vaccine shot.

Babies also absorb this aluminium from their mothers while in the womb.

Please vaccinate your kids, guys. We, in first-world countries, live in a time where nobody still alive remembers when families had 6 or 7 kids knowing full well that one or two of them might not survive their childhood.

Let's not allow that luxury to make us blind to history.

Vaccinate your kids.

I think I'll go get a T-shirt made:

"Vaccination causes adults."
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 24/01/2019 22:15:25
I think anti-vaxing sentiments are a danger to society, because refusing to vaccinate healthy kids will increase the risk of them spreading diseases to people who can't be vaccinated for health reasons,
such as people with immunity disorders and similar.

And not only is the idea that vaccines causes autism proven wrong, it's horrible that some parents would rather face their kids possibly dying from preventable diseases than risk them having autism.
I was diagnosed on the spectrum at an early age myself, and while I've had trouble concentrating in school or making friends for most of my upbringing, I don't consider my diagnose a fate worse than
succumbing to severe diseases and I've been able to have a somewhat normal life with the right training and support, and the implications of what some anti-vaxers have said makes my skin crawl.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 15/02/2019 16:15:20
It grinds my gears when people don't adhere to the age restrictions in movie theaters and sneak in kids too young to see the film.
Case in point, som time ago I was seeing the new Aquaman movie with a friend, and while it was a fun enough superhero movie, much of my experience was
brought down by an idiot dad who brought a toddler into the theater. Aquaman is a PG-13 movie, and for a good reason, there is lots of violence and both humans and animals get killed on screen,
and even if it wasn't for the violence, the movie is 2.5 hours long and everything was in English with Swedish text and there was zero chance that a toddler would follow the plot or be able to sit still
for that amount of time, and much as I predicted, the toddler spent most of the time blabbing, wanting to be carried out, crying and ruining the experience for the rest of the moviegoers.

I genuinely think small children shouldn't be allowed into movie theatres showing movies above their age limit and any parent bringing them in anyway is doing bad parenting. I get being a parent is hard work, but it shouldn't be an excuse for ruining the day of other people who've paid for their tickets (and the toddler forced to sit in a dark room and watch a film they couldn't comprehend), and anyone becoming a parent should either accept that the next five years of their lives will consist of doing activities suitable for babies or find a babysitter.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Fri 15/02/2019 19:48:33
Quote from: Mandle on Tue 22/01/2019 13:24:40
I think I'll go get a T-shirt made:

"Vaccination causes adults."

Love that!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Fri 15/02/2019 20:00:44
Quote from: Blondbraid on Fri 15/02/2019 16:15:20
It grinds my gears when people don't adhere to the age restrictions in movie theaters and sneak in kids too young to see the film.
Case in point, som time ago I was seeing the new Aquaman movie with a friend, and while it was a fun enough superhero movie, much of my experience was
brought down by an idiot dad who brought a toddler into the theater. Aquaman is a PG-13 movie, and for a good reason, there is lots of violence and both humans and animals get killed on screen,
and even if it wasn't for the violence, the movie is 2.5 hours long and everything was in English with Swedish text and there was zero chance that a toddler would follow the plot or be able to sit still
for that amount of time, and much as I predicted, the toddler spent most of the time blabbing, wanting to be carried out, crying and ruining the experience for the rest of the moviegoers.

I genuinely think small children shouldn't be allowed into movie theatres showing movies above their age limit and any parent bringing them in anyway is doing bad parenting. I get being a parent is hard work, but it shouldn't be an excuse for ruining the day of other people who've paid for their tickets (and the toddler forced to sit in a dark room and watch a film they couldn't comprehend), and anyone becoming a parent should either accept that the next five years of their lives will consist of doing activities suitable for babies or find a babysitter.

I agree that small children that can't sit still and keep quiet (especially if they won't understand the language) should not be brought into the movie theaters.

I also feel that age restrictions are often set based on arbitrary rules.  If a movie is rated PG-13, for example, I wouldn't have an issue if a 10 year old or even an 8 year old were in the theater, as long as they can behave themselves.  After all, if their parent or guardian is there with them, then they are obeying the restriction that calls for Parental Guidance.  And not all children develop at the same pace.  There are other 8 or 10 year old children I would not want in the theater.

Then again, when I saw the Last Jedi in the theater, a grown adult ruined a key moment (the silent moment) by yelling out "Oh snap!" and making others laugh.  That grinds my gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Click'd on Fri 15/02/2019 20:59:09
Quote from: dactylopus on Fri 15/02/2019 20:00:44
Then again, when I saw the Last Jedi in the theater, a grown adult ruined a key moment (the silent moment) by yelling out "Oh snap!" and making others laugh.  That grinds my gears.
Solution: Stay away from people.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 15/02/2019 22:57:51
Quote from: cat on Fri 15/02/2019 19:48:33
Quote from: Mandle on Tue 22/01/2019 13:24:40
I think I'll go get a T-shirt made:

"Vaccination causes adults."

Love that!

Pre-order then?  :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Sat 16/02/2019 02:42:15
I avoid going to the movies because of said reasons. I'd much rather watch it at home in piece and quiet away from obnoxious humans!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Mon 18/02/2019 03:02:25
To be fair, the cinema isn't library. You're not trying to read a book. You've paid to watch a movie in the company of hundreds of other people. You might not necessarily talk to the people next to you but it's still very much a social experience. Sometimes (especially here in Japan) the silence during funny bits is even more gear-grinding. You need someone with a well-timed ‘oh snap' to break the tension and give the audience permission to react to the film in a way that the filmmaker almost certainly intended.

I'm not saying people should chat and eat loudly and bring young children into the room (I agree with Blondbraid in this) but for me the film is much more enjoyable when there is almost an element of interaction between the audience and the screen.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 18/02/2019 15:09:54
Quote from: Stupot on Mon 18/02/2019 03:02:25
the film is much more enjoyable when there is almost an element of interaction between the audience and the screen.

Rotten tomatoes?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Mon 18/02/2019 22:20:18
Quote from: Stupot on Mon 18/02/2019 03:02:25
To be fair, the cinema isn't library. You're not trying to read a book. You've paid to watch a movie in the company of hundreds of other people. You might not necessarily talk to the people next to you but it's still very much a social experience. Sometimes (especially here in Japan) the silence during funny bits is even more gear-grinding. You need someone with a well-timed ‘oh snap' to break the tension and give the audience permission to react to the film in a way that the filmmaker almost certainly intended.

I'm not saying people should chat and eat loudly and bring young children into the room (I agree with Blondbraid in this) but for me the film is much more enjoyable when there is almost an element of interaction between the audience and the screen.

OK, I understand this point of view.  I see movies in a theater not because of social elements, but because of the experience of the theater seating, snacks, huge screen, and other things I can't get from a home experience.  Laughing at funny parts is expected, so it's not about having complete silence.  It's about courtesy to fellow movie-goers (much in the same way that Blondbraid was talking about not bringing small children).  If I lean over and say "Oh snap" to a friend, that's one thing, but shouting it out for the entire theater is a bit much and quite distracting for those of us that want a level of immersion from films.  In the same way, I went to a theater and had a man a few seats away from me looking at Facebook on his phone for the entire duration of the film.  The light from his phone was distracting to me and others in the area, and there are announcements telling you to turn off your phone before the film starts.  This is another courtesy to those around you.

I do understand, though, that you're basing your position on your current Japanese location and cultural factors.  I think I might enjoy watching a movie in Japan!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 18/02/2019 23:24:53
Quote from: dactylopus on Mon 18/02/2019 22:20:18
I do understand, though, that you're basing your position on your current Japanese location and cultural factors.  I think I might enjoy watching a movie in Japan!

It's really not much different to watching a movie alone.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 18/02/2019 23:48:06
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 18/02/2019 23:24:53
Quote from: dactylopus on Mon 18/02/2019 22:20:18
I do understand, though, that you're basing your position on your current Japanese location and cultural factors.  I think I might enjoy watching a movie in Japan!

It's really not much different to watching a movie alone.
Not really, like dactylopus said, you get to watch it on a huge screen in much better detail than your TV at home, plus it's not just the movie, it's everything around the movie. I usually go out and watch movies at the cinema together with friends, and we go out and eat dinner and walk around in the city beforehand and it's all about having a nice evening out together rather than just sitting and watching a movie.

I suppose the expectations on cinema experiences vary too, but in Sweden it's usually considered very rude to eat loudly or talk a lot during a movie and there will always be an usher walking in and telling everyone that you have to turn off the noise on your cellphone before the movie starts. Personally, I've only encountered somebody talking during a screening funny once in my lifetime, and that was way back in 2007 when I was watching Arn (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0837106/) and there was a fake-out death scene where some guy swung a sword at the protagonist and it faded to black in the middle of the movie and a kid jokingly said "The end!". That was funny. Blabbering toddlers isn't.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Tue 19/02/2019 03:16:20
A movie experience I did enjoy, that others might not, was back when the Scream movies were popular. During build up scenes that would have you on the edge of your seat a member of the staff dressed up in the Scream outfit would burst into the theater and run down the isle. People would literally jump out of their seats. lol.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 20/02/2019 02:38:55
Quote from: josiah1221 on Tue 19/02/2019 03:16:20
A movie experience I did enjoy, that others might not, was back when the Scream movies were popular. During build up scenes that would have you on the edge of your seat a member of the staff dressed up in the Scream outfit would burst into the theater and run down the isle. People would literally jump out of their seats. lol.
Was this a special screening for fans where people might have expected such behaviour or did everyone think they were just going to a normal screening?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Thu 21/02/2019 04:10:55
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 20/02/2019 02:38:55
Quote from: josiah1221 on Tue 19/02/2019 03:16:20
A movie experience I did enjoy, that others might not, was back when the Scream movies were popular. During build up scenes that would have you on the edge of your seat a member of the staff dressed up in the Scream outfit would burst into the theater and run down the isle. People would literally jump out of their seats. lol.
Was this a special screening for fans where people might have expected such behaviour or did everyone think they were just going to a normal screening?

It was a normal screening and started out as a joke but ended up becoming popular. Once the word got out people would come expecting it or come again to see the unexpected victim's people's reactions. I was in my late teens at the time so I enjoyed it and found it quite funny. I'm not so sure I would enjoy such shenanigans now though, lol.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 21/02/2019 09:30:37
Hahaha, damn. That would get you shot in America.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 21/02/2019 10:26:21
Quote from: josiah1221 on Thu 21/02/2019 04:10:55
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 20/02/2019 02:38:55
Quote from: josiah1221 on Tue 19/02/2019 03:16:20
A movie experience I did enjoy, that others might not, was back when the Scream movies were popular. During build up scenes that would have you on the edge of your seat a member of the staff dressed up in the Scream outfit would burst into the theater and run down the isle. People would literally jump out of their seats. lol.
Was this a special screening for fans where people might have expected such behaviour or did everyone think they were just going to a normal screening?

It was a normal screening and started out as a joke but ended up becoming popular. Once the word got out people would come expecting it or come again to see the unexpected victim's people's reactions. I was in my late teens at the time so I enjoyed it and found it quite funny. I'm not so sure I would enjoy such shenanigans now though, lol.
That's the sort of thing that sounds funny on paper, but would get decidedly less funny once someone inevitably gets a heart attack.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 21/02/2019 11:58:56
Quote from: Blondbraid on Thu 21/02/2019 10:26:21
That's the sort of thing that sounds funny on paper, but would get decidedly less funny once someone inevitably gets a heart attack.
Well it is a horror movie... not a particularly scary horror movie, but you get my point.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 21/02/2019 17:07:54
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 21/02/2019 11:58:56
Quote from: Blondbraid on Thu 21/02/2019 10:26:21
That's the sort of thing that sounds funny on paper, but would get decidedly less funny once someone inevitably gets a heart attack.
Well it is a horror movie... not a particularly scary horror movie, but you get my point.  (laugh)
Yes, but people tend to have far more intense reactions to real people jumping at them compared to just seeing things on a screen.

Gröna Lund (a big amusement park in Stockholm) actually had a big problem with their haunted huse attraction that featured employees dressed as
monsters pawing at the visitors as part of the horror due to so many persons reacting to the scare by punching or assaulting the employees.  8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Fri 22/02/2019 03:26:24
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 21/02/2019 09:30:37
Hahaha, damn. That would get you shot in America.

I live in the US, no one got shot. But that was over 20 years ago. This day in time, yeah, you'd either get shot or fired for bullying, harassment, offending, etc.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 08/03/2019 22:29:03
It grinds my gears that on every international women's day, you invariably find men whining that "Why isn't there a men's day?", not only because it's a pretty shameless attempt to detract from the real issues women face that's meant to be brought to light on this day, but also because there already is an official international men's day on November the 19th.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 08/03/2019 22:57:41
The comedian Richard Herring spends the whole of International Women's Day trolling everyone on Twitter asking “When's International Men's Day?” (which is a lot of people), and in the process manages to raise thousands of pounds for Refuge.

Here's his Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/Herring1967
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Sat 09/03/2019 04:27:17
How ironic that March 9th is "Get over it day"  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sat 09/03/2019 20:21:48
Happy get over it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-8l8v3h1Bg) day, everyone!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 09/03/2019 22:13:57
Quote from: Stupot on Fri 08/03/2019 22:57:41
The comedian Richard Herring spends the whole of International Women's Day trolling everyone on Twitter asking "When's International Men's Day?" (which is a lot of people), and in the process manages to raise thousands of pounds for Refuge.

Here's his Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/Herring1967
I'm glad at least one person could turn that mess into something positive!
Quote from: Jack on Sat 09/03/2019 20:21:48
Happy get over it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-8l8v3h1Bg) day, everyone!
I'll admit it's a catchy song, it's just too bad too many people ask others to just get over things whilst lingering and complaining about everything themselves.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Tue 12/03/2019 12:49:34
I remember (I think) that there was a museum who let women go in for free or half price on that day and men had to pay the normal fee and of course there was whining and complaints. That really pissed me off. It's men's day the rest of the f#####g year so why the hell can't we let our females enjoy something just for them? And I can't understand why a man should have a higher salory than a female if they do exactly the same job. I"m all for equality
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 12/03/2019 14:51:55
Quote from: Mouth for war on Tue 12/03/2019 12:49:34
I remember (I think) that there was a museum who let women go in for free or half price on that day and men had to pay the normal fee and of course there was whining and complaints. That really pissed me off. It's men's day the rest of the f#####g year so why the hell can't we let our females enjoy something just for them? And I can't understand why a man should have a higher salory than a female if they do exactly the same job. I"m all for equality
Indeed, it reminds me of a guy who was so angry at the woman-only screening of Wonder Woman so he decided to have a man-only screening of the movie Rock of Ages, and nobody stopped him or even expressed any real outrage over him doing so.

There already are tons of things women aren't allowed to do, like joining the freemasons, becoming priests in several religions, and there are a bunch of clubs that are men only, yet you non't see any of the men protesting woman discounts complaining about that.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 12/03/2019 15:16:07
Sometimes I really grind my own gears but tend to just let what I do annoy others and get stress-relief from that instead of going after the real culprit.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Tue 26/03/2019 11:46:08
My past self!
I've just spent an hour trying to figure out why text wasn't showing up on a GUI, only to find I'd made an if statement earlier for test reasons that I was supposed to delete...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 26/03/2019 13:46:24
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Tue 26/03/2019 11:46:08
My past self!
I've just spent an hour trying to figure out why text wasn't showing up on a GUI, only to find I'd made an if statement earlier for test reasons that I was supposed to delete...
Yeah, it's so frustrating that a tiny mistake or forgotten leftover can really mess up a whole game, and most of the time you don't even learn from your mistakes because it's always the same mistake; you forgot to delete something or made a typo.

At least the one letter typo (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/07/a-years-old-one-letter-typo-led-to-aliens-colonial-marines-awful-ai/) in Alien: Colonial Marines led gave us a funny gif:
(https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 04/04/2019 17:16:04
Daylight saving time (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time) grinds my gears.
I suppose adjusting the clock one hour back/forth once each autumn and spring made sense in the olden days when the only light source available were fireplaces and expensive candles,
but in today's industrial society with electric light available for everyone, all it does is throw everyone off-schedule twice a year and cause pointless stress and confusion.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Sinitrena on Thu 04/04/2019 18:13:01
Well, the EU wants to get rid of it (https://www.dw.com/en/european-parliament-set-to-end-eu-wide-daylight-saving/a-47775317), so there's good news for you.

What grinds my gears?
Autosave "features" in modern games, especially when they have no option to manually save and ten times so if they only use one f...ing save-game-slot. I'm looking at you, Thronebreaker, the Witcher Tales!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: morganw on Thu 04/04/2019 20:24:02
Auto-saving me on the wrong side of a fence, where I fall through the floor as soon as my saved game is loaded.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Thu 04/04/2019 20:34:19
(https://i.imgur.com/UjrdS0k.jpg)

Power and Sleep Keys on keyboards.   

Hit them accidentally gives no prompt "are you sure...."   no warning of any kind, just shuts the system down
Any keyboard manufactures should be fined astronomical amounts of money for producing keyboards with these keys, and the actual keyboard layout designer thrown in jail for life with no possibility of parole.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Fri 05/04/2019 08:27:55
1. I only buy keyboards that have those
2. you can disable them in the power settings
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Fri 05/04/2019 10:10:59
I did not know you could do that, any time I had those keyboards i just pull the keys out, makes the keyboard look ugly though
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 05/04/2019 14:54:15
Quote from: Sinitrena on Thu 04/04/2019 18:13:01
Well, the EU wants to get rid of it (https://www.dw.com/en/european-parliament-set-to-end-eu-wide-daylight-saving/a-47775317), so there's good news for you.
It grinds my gears that despite the EU wanting to get rid of it, Britain is fighting to keep it. Despite the majority (if not all) British citizens agreeing with the EU and wanting rid of it!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 05/04/2019 15:50:26
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 05/04/2019 14:54:15
Quote from: Sinitrena on Thu 04/04/2019 18:13:01
Well, the EU wants to get rid of it (https://www.dw.com/en/european-parliament-set-to-end-eu-wide-daylight-saving/a-47775317), so there's good news for you.
It grinds my gears that despite the EU wanting to get rid of it, Britain is fighting to keep it. Despite the majority (if not all) British citizens agreeing with the EU and wanting rid of it!
Reading that, you'd think Britain had a bit of an awkward relationship with the EU or something.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 01/05/2019 22:29:55
It grinds my gears that most modern live-action movies and TV-series are too dark, and I don't mean this in the "grimdark edgelord" sense (even if that can be bad too), but in the literal "too dark to see literally see anything happening" sense. Like when I saw the latest episode of Game of Thrones, and don't worry, I won't spoil who kills who, because I couldn't actually see what was going on on the screen for 90% of the time!

Seriously, I live in Sweden where it's soul-crushing darkness most of the year, so I know making the screen black is a more realistic way of depicting nighttime than just slapping a blue filter on the screen and calling it a day, but come on, if I didn't care about seeing anything happening on the screen whilst listening to actors talking I'd have just bought an audio-book instead.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 02/05/2019 14:13:03
Yeah. I saw a lot of people complaining about the lighting decisions of the latest GoT episode. I haven't got around to the new series yet but I will remember to turn the brightness up.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Thu 02/05/2019 20:05:30
I've seen a lot of complaints about the darkness.  I didn't have that issue.  It looked great, and the darkness was fitting for the story.  Then again, I watched it in complete darkness in the middle of the night.  The previous episode I watched in the daytime and it reminded me that I need to get more blackout curtains.

Great episode, though.  One of my favorites of the entire series.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandarinas45 on Fri 03/05/2019 07:23:08
What grinds my gear? Playing Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (https://www.eneba.com/steam-sekiro-shadows-die-twice-steam-key-europe) as your below-average gamer. It's a great game, but it's not for everyone to enjoy. That's what grinds my gear. T_T
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sun 05/05/2019 08:29:01
Quote from: dactylopus on Thu 02/05/2019 20:05:30
I've seen a lot of complaints about the darkness.  I didn't have that issue.  It looked great, and the darkness was fitting for the story.  Then again, I watched it in complete darkness in the middle of the night.  The previous episode I watched in the daytime and it reminded me that I need to get more blackout curtains.

Great episode, though.  One of my favorites of the entire series.
Yeah, I'm sure it looked better in the middle of the night, but I still think it's a problem when something only looks good under optimal circumstances, because not everyone can stay up late or have good blackout curtains (especially not in Sweden, where the daylight lasts practically forever in summer-time). For comparison, I re-watched a clip from the Battle of Helm's Deep from the LOTR movies, which also depicts a big fantasy battle at night-time, but there I could tell everything going on even on an old laptop screen with full daylight pouring onto it, and the scene still looked good and dramatic:


But I've seen a similar problem in AAA games too, where the graphics are exclusively optimized for cutting-edge computers, and if you try anything less than the highest graphics options, you get an ugly mess with blurry textures and grainy shadows that somehow looks worse than games that came out a decade ago.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Galen on Sun 05/05/2019 18:32:58
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 05/04/2019 14:54:15
Quote from: Sinitrena on Thu 04/04/2019 18:13:01
Well, the EU wants to get rid of it (https://www.dw.com/en/european-parliament-set-to-end-eu-wide-daylight-saving/a-47775317), so there's good news for you.
It grinds my gears that despite the EU wanting to get rid of it, Britain is fighting to keep it. Despite the majority (if not all) British citizens agreeing with the EU and wanting rid of it!
This is British politics. They have to keep up the appearances of opposing the EU at every opportunity regardless of the sanity of it all (and while voting in favour of almost all EU laws and regulations).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Sun 12/05/2019 12:07:29
People who wear big hats yet don't deliver the goods.. Why can't people be honest  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sun 12/05/2019 19:53:10
"All hat and no cattle"?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sun 02/06/2019 21:30:04
Fracturing your right pinky finger on a sunday night, waiting for hours in the ER....That's what really grinds my gears today :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Mon 03/06/2019 01:25:01
Could have happened on friday.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Mon 03/06/2019 10:55:40
That would've made a lot of difference :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Wed 03/07/2019 06:34:16
Just reviving this thread to say that it grinds my gears when games tell you to "turn down the lights and use headphones". One, DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO uGH MOM, and two, If your game needs such restrictive conditions to be enjoyable, it probably isn't too good to begin with.

(Sorry, woke up feeling grumpy and felt the need to complain about something, but I guess that's what this thread is for :-D)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 03/07/2019 06:50:16
I always get excited when a game tells me to do that. That means it's probably going to scare the hell out of me (or at least try).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Wed 03/07/2019 07:13:18
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 03/07/2019 06:50:16
I always get excited when a game tells me to do that. That means it's probably going to scare the hell out of me (or at least try).

Every single crappy horror asset flip game on itch.io says that though. At this point it doesn't really mean anything except maybe a couple of VERY LOUD JUMPSCARES! :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Monsieur OUXX on Wed 03/07/2019 08:48:45
Quote from: notarobotyet on Wed 03/07/2019 06:34:16
If your game needs such restrictive conditions to be enjoyable, it probably isn't too good to begin with.

You do not talk shit about Cyan. YOU. DO. NOT. TALK. SHIT. ABOUT. CYAN.
(The entire Myst series had a monitor calibration screen)  ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Wed 03/07/2019 09:01:26
Quote from: Monsieur OUXX on Wed 03/07/2019 08:48:45
Quote from: notarobotyet on Wed 03/07/2019 06:34:16
If your game needs such restrictive conditions to be enjoyable, it probably isn't too good to begin with.

You do not talk shit about Cyan. YOU. DO. NOT. TALK. SHIT. ABOUT. CYAN.
(The entire Myst series had a monitor calibration screen)

Hahaha fair enough, fair enough!

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/FOJfB4p0rBk3K/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 03/07/2019 11:55:05
Quote from: notarobotyet on Wed 03/07/2019 07:13:18
Every single crappy horror asset flip game on itch.io says that though. At this point it doesn't really mean anything except maybe a couple of VERY LOUD JUMPSCARES! :-D
Oh I could tell you a thing or two about those crappy horror "games" on itch.io.
I've already boiled it down to a formula.
Always a flashlight (sometimes one which runs out of battery power, so you can't see anything).
Always a room that's illuminated red, somewhere in the game.
Always notes littered about the place, because apprently people write down their thoughts on random pieces of paper and leave them lying around.
Almost always a basement that you have go into to attempt to turn the power on.
ALWAYS literal key-door puzzles. Find a locked door, find another locked door, find a key, open locked door, find another key, open the other locked door, ect.
And then there's the fact that it's either a "monster maze" game, where you're wandering around and a monster is too, and that monster can usually run faster than you, with no way of avoiding it once you see it. Or it's a "haunted house" game, where you wander around and there's literally nothing that can hurt you. The walls may bleed, and the corridors may change layout behind you, but nothing will actually hurt you. You may get to a point where you're being "chased" by a monster, but in that case you merely have to wander around slightly faster, otherwise you'll have to retry the scripted chase sequence.
Throw in a few loud jumpscares, which by this point no one is startled by anymore, and there you go. Your very own "horror game".  :-X
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Wed 03/07/2019 12:15:55
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 03/07/2019 11:55:05
Quote from: notarobotyet on Wed 03/07/2019 07:13:18
Every single crappy horror asset flip game on itch.io says that though. At this point it doesn't really mean anything except maybe a couple of VERY LOUD JUMPSCARES! :-D
Oh I could tell you a thing or two about those crappy horror "games" on itch.io.
I've already boiled it down to a formula.
Always a flashlight (sometimes one which runs out of battery power, so you can't see anything).
Always a room that's illuminated red, somewhere in the game.
Always notes littered about the place, because apprently people write down their thoughts on random pieces of paper and leave them lying around.
Almost always a basement that you have go into to attempt to turn the power on.
ALWAYS literal key-door puzzles. Find a locked door, find another locked door, find a key, open locked door, find another key, open the other locked door, ect.
And then there's the fact that it's either a "monster maze" game, where you're wandering around and a monster is too, and that monster can usually run faster than you, with no way of avoiding it once you see it. Or it's a "haunted house" game, where you wander around and there's literally nothing that can hurt you. The walls may bleed, and the corridors may change layout behind you, but nothing will actually hurt you. You may get to a point where you're being "chased" by a monster, but in that case you merely have to wander around slightly faster, otherwise you'll have to retry the scripted chase sequence.
Throw in a few loud jumpscares, which by this point no one is startled by anymore, and there you go. Your very own "horror game".  :-X

Hahaha RED IS SCARY!

But yup, every. single. one. of. these. They've become so trite, boring and predictable that I'm not even entertained anymore by watching youtubers make fun of them...

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Fri 05/07/2019 17:52:57
Many people no longer have the grit, drive and the determination we had in this once great country (UK)..

It grinds my gears that the UK nation has turned some people into gutless wimps..

I hate to say this and I feel sad about it.... but where has their backbone gone and why has it turned yellow?

We were once a nation of solid rock but now it's more like soft jelly...

It grinds my gears  (laugh)

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Fri 05/07/2019 18:39:37
Quote from: Slasher on Fri 05/07/2019 17:52:57

Many people no longer have the grit, drive and the determination we had in this once great country (UK)..

It grinds my gears that the UK nation has turned some people into gutless wimps..

I hate to say this and I feel sad about it.... but where has their backbone gone and why has it turned yellow?

We were once a nation of solid rock but now it's more like soft jelly...

It grinds my gears  (laugh)



I think it's the same thing that every old people say in every country... :-D

_

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Fri 05/07/2019 21:04:11
Don't know that slasher's generation would use any excuse to have a riot and loot the sneaker store.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Fri 05/07/2019 21:40:50
TheFrighter
Jack

You are both right..in a way... But it's true... If one dislikes something then its classed as hate campaign...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Fri 05/07/2019 21:54:37
Can't have people complaining about that social engineering.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 06/07/2019 09:20:31
Quote from: TheFrighter on Fri 05/07/2019 18:39:37
Quote from: Slasher on Fri 05/07/2019 17:52:57

Many people no longer have the grit, drive and the determination we had in this once great country (UK)..

It grinds my gears that the UK nation has turned some people into gutless wimps..

I hate to say this and I feel sad about it.... but where has their backbone gone and why has it turned yellow?

We were once a nation of solid rock but now it's more like soft jelly...

It grinds my gears  (laugh)



I think it's the same thing that every old people say in every country... :-D
That's what all old people have always done, just look at this quote by Socrates, born 469 BC:
QuoteThe children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room.
(roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Sat 06/07/2019 11:51:18
That's very true.... But I'm about Adults...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 08/07/2019 13:25:14
If there's something I've noticed it's that everyone believes that everyone younger than them is an idiot for not having their wisdom, and everyone older than them is an idiot for not moving along with the times.

"Hah, those old people don't know how to use a computer! They're idiots!"
and
"Hah, those young people only ever have their eyes glued to their smartphones! They're idiots!"

You've just got to remember that the more things change, the more they stay the same.  :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: josiah1221 on Tue 09/07/2019 03:46:55
Yep, we are all just a bunch of idiots!  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 09/07/2019 08:29:36
Quote from: josiah1221 on Tue 09/07/2019 03:46:55
Yep, we are all just a bunch of idiots!  (laugh)

There are no exceptions to this rule... EVER!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Tue 09/07/2019 20:09:02
Now that you're all demoralised enough, you need to vote for me.

(https://i.imgur.com/O7hUXur.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Thu 18/07/2019 20:38:05
Quote from: Mandle on Tue 22/01/2019 13:24:40
I think I'll go get a T-shirt made:

"Vaccination causes adults."

Was that you, Mandle? https://www.qwertee.com/last-chance (https://www.qwertee.com/last-chance)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 19/07/2019 00:08:16
Quote from: cat on Thu 18/07/2019 20:38:05
Quote from: Mandle on Tue 22/01/2019 13:24:40
I think I'll go get a T-shirt made:

"Vaccination causes adults."

Was that you, Mandle? https://www.qwertee.com/last-chance (https://www.qwertee.com/last-chance)

Is there one there that says that? I couldn't find it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 19/07/2019 01:07:17
There was, I saw it. But it's gone now.
Thought there are plenty of them on google images.  ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 31/07/2019 13:46:39
It grinds my gears, that when a huge controversy pops up out of nowhere, and a bunch of people are suddenly knee-deep in outrage. You sometimes can't find out why because everyone either completely avoids the details of the topic at hand (for example: "I can't believe he did that! I'm never buying Fez 2 from that asshole!"), or there's two sides that both hate each other without explaining the difference between the sides (for example: "Anyone who is pro-gamergate is dead to me!").

To this day, I have no idea what gamergate was about. And when I made a comic about it, asking people. Everyone commented saying that they also didn't know!  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 31/07/2019 14:45:17
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 31/07/2019 13:46:39
It grinds my gears, that when a huge controversy pops up out of nowhere, and a bunch of people are suddenly knee-deep in outrage. You sometimes can't find out why because everyone either completely avoids the details of the topic at hand (for example: "I can't believe he did that! I'm never buying Fez 2 from that asshole!"), or there's two sides that both hate each other without explaining the difference between the sides (for example: "Anyone who is pro-gamergate is dead to me!").

To this day, I have no idea what gamergate was about. And when I made a comic about it, asking people. Everyone commented saying that they also didn't know!  (laugh)
I don't find the outrage funny or hard to understand.
Here's John Oliver to explain it for you:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 31/07/2019 14:46:09
I accidentally hit the quote button instead of the edit, but you get the picture in my comment above.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Wed 31/07/2019 15:32:32
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 31/07/2019 13:46:39To this day, I have no idea what gamergate was about.

I know, right? It's SO hard to find info on anything (https://lmgtfy.com/?q=gamergate) these days...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Wed 31/07/2019 20:30:30

If suggesting via a sarcastic google link that there are ways out there to find out literally anything about any subject you want is "virtue signaling", then I'll take it anytime over posting a single source from, wait for it, no less than knowyourmeme, that highly reputable news site.

Funny thing is you proved my point that the previous poster was too lazy to look for information on his own, and just to get back at dem dumm wimmen you went and did all the work for him. Congratulations! Now you can pat each other on the back and hopefully release some of that testosterone you keep bottled up  :-*
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Wed 31/07/2019 20:32:34
Quote from: notarobotyet on Wed 31/07/2019 20:30:30

If suggesting via a sarcastic google link that there are ways out there to find out literally anything about any subject you want is "virtue signaling", then I'll take it anytime over posting a single source from, wait for it, no less than knowyourmeme, that highly reputable news site.

Funny thing is you proved my point that the previous poster was too lazy to look for information on his own, and just to get back at dem dumm wimmen you went and did all the work for him. Congratulations! Now you can pat each other on the back and hopefully release some of that testosterone you keep bottled up  :-*

Geez, wasn't talking about you, but the people who are looking for an excuse to complain about the menstruation jam.

Edit: I was replying to Danvzare's original topic. Guess I should have quoted him.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 31/07/2019 20:35:24
We're not going to be perpetuating Gamergate here in this thread.

In general, let's get back on topic, as loosely defined as it is.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Wed 31/07/2019 20:42:21
I got a post deleted there for not having the correct opinion on something. Didn't swear, didn't attack any posters. The link I posted which had a lot of info on gamergate was quite unbiased. This is the problem. The opinion was not on the extreme left.

Snarky, you're a clown. Whoever put you in charge of anything screwed up bigtime.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Thu 01/08/2019 02:25:05
Quote from: Jack on Wed 31/07/2019 20:42:21
I got a post deleted there for not having the correct opinion on something. Didn't swear, didn't attack any posters. The link I posted which had a lot of info on gamergate was quite unbiased. This is the problem. The opinion was not on the extreme left.

Snarky, you're a clown. Whoever put you in charge of anything screwed up bigtime.
This grinds my gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Thu 01/08/2019 06:13:45
Quote from: Jack on Wed 31/07/2019 20:42:21
I got a post deleted there for not having the correct opinion on something. Didn't swear, didn't attack any posters. The link I posted which had a lot of info on gamergate was quite unbiased. This is the problem. The opinion was not on the extreme left.

Snarky, you're a clown. Whoever put you in charge of anything screwed up bigtime.

You have a history of posting conspiracy theories that slander and harass individuals, and that's why the post was deleted. The link may have been fine, your "summary" was not.

And the discussion is off-topic here anyway.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Thu 15/08/2019 22:26:11
People who sit behind you on the bus and cough/sneeze on the back of your head.
And then I sit there and don't move because you don't want to wipe your head and get another person's spittle on your hand, and also don't want to acknowledge that it happened...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 15/08/2019 23:59:56
Maybe they just have Captain Tripps and can't help it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Fri 16/08/2019 07:29:48
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Thu 15/08/2019 22:26:11
People who sit behind you on the bus and cough/sneeze on the back of your head.
And then I sit there and don't move because you don't want to wipe your head and get another person's spittle on your hand, and also don't want to acknowledge that it happened...

Ah! Public transportation pet peeves! I have ALL of those (laugh) For example, in Germany nobody takes off their backpack in public transportation EVER, no matter how crowded it is. Pretty much anywhere else this would be considered barbaric (http://www.modelcommuters.com.au/the-backpack-remover/), but "respect for other people's personal space" is just not a thing here... or at least in Berlin, where people will literally push you just to be the first to get to the cashier line that just opened (wtf)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 21/08/2019 17:07:22
[Discussion of controversies split off to thread in General Discussion.]
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 22/08/2019 11:47:09
Speaking of things you see on a public transportation, it grinds my gears whenever you see men walking around in public with their pants hanging down and showing half their butt crack on full display.
Not only is it gross having to see some guy's hairy rear end in public, but it's also incredibly disgusting when they sit with their half-naked butt on a bus or subway, and then the next person will have to
sit on a seat soaked with their sweat and butt stench.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 22/08/2019 12:00:51
Haha true that blondbraid :-D speaking of public transportation. It grinds my gears when healthy people  ignores when there's an elderly woman or man looking for a seat and they don't offer them a place to sit. Or when you see old people in a shop and they keep bending down on the floor and grab things from their baskets. You can almosr see how their poor backs are suffering and noone even thinks about helping them (happened today) of course I would be the world's biggest hypocrite if I had stood in silence. I can assure you that I helped that old granny :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 30/08/2019 00:44:25
The whole Jeffrey Epstein suicide is really grinding my gears.

I don't think that other high-ups had him killed to protect themselves from getting named by him, but I do highly suspect that they had a hand in his suicide watch being lifted and possibly even a word in his ear that it would be much better for him if he just ends it all. Why the hell would his suicide watch be taken away after such a short time? They obviously thought he was likely to kill himself. That's why they had the watch in the first place!

Now the others who were obviously involved in the same disgusting stuff get a free pass and the victims get no closure.

I really hope someone investigates all this honestly and the full truth comes to light one day.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Fri 30/08/2019 01:40:12
At the moment at least it seems that the internet is keeping that investigation alive, too many people know about it. Short of a very big distraction, most of them will keep looking into it.

All the stuff I've read, the convenient camera "malfunction" for his cell, one of the guards watching him not being a corrections officer (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/one-of-epsteins-guards-was-not-a-corrections-officer), the broken neck bones (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/15/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-finds-broken-neck-bones-reports-say/2021047001/), it just stinks to high hell. Last I heard his legal team was able to contest the "official" autopsy results based on the report of their own examiner.

And of course 8chan, which would normally be all over this, happens to be taken offline, and the FBI releases a report saying they are ready to treat conspiracy theorists as domestic terrorists, both just a few days before he died. How very convenient for certain people.

On top of this, John McAfee's drone footage proves that material, including computers, were removed from his island before the FBI availed themselves to finally raid it. He wasn't alone in this, yet his known accomplice and spouse has not been arrested.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Fri 30/08/2019 06:31:38
I hate telecom companies in the Arabian Gulf. Overpriced, horrible service, hidden and very sneaky charges. I'm paying several hundred USD$ a month for the privilege of having to reset my router several times a day. Even then I'm often unable to connect certain devices (like for example my laptop is connected at the moment but the TV isn't). There isn't a limit on the number of devices that can connect; it just simply does not work and the service dummies can't figure it out.

My gears are so grounded!  >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 30/08/2019 12:29:11
Quote from: man n fist on Fri 30/08/2019 06:31:38
I'm paying several hundred USD$ a month

WTF?! That's like what I pay for rent per month! I pay about $100 per month for cable connection on TV, computer, and telephone including local WiFi for unlimited (AFAIK) devices.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Sat 31/08/2019 05:18:20
Wow that's in Japan, right? Yeah, I think east Asia is lightyears ahead of the rest of the planet. When I lived in China, you could access mobile networks with more data than most people need (I never ran out, for example) for less than $50 USD a month! Granted it was restricted Chinese internet (i.e. no Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, etc), but with a cheapish VPN you were up and running.

I think the problem here is that there is no competition in telecom. Most countries only have one or two providers, so they carve the monopoly up and work together to kep their sh*t service super expensive. It's so infuriating!  :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sun 01/09/2019 21:50:45
Mandle, re Epstein, this is a comprehensive series with a lot of info:

Hidden in Plain Sight: The Shocking Origins of the Jeffrey Epstein Case (https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/)

Government by Blackmail: Jeffrey Epstein, Trump's Mentor and the Dark Secrets of the Reagan Era (https://www.mintpressnews.com/blackmail-jeffrey-epstein-trump-mentor-reagan-era/260760/)

Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal (https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/)

From “Spook Air” to the “Lolita Express”: The Genesis and Evolution of the Jeffrey Epstein-Bill Clinton Relationship (https://www.mintpressnews.com/genesis-jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-relationship/261455/)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 06/09/2019 15:09:00
It is rare that I turn a movie off even half-way through but this is the first time that, after 20 minutes watching, I've had to fumble for the control, pray I found the stop button fast enough, and then pop the screen the finger and say, our loud, "Fuck you!".

I present to you: Holmes And Watson. May it be played endlessly on repeat to child-molesters in Hell.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Fri 06/09/2019 15:54:57
 (laugh) that indeed sounds like a terrible movie. Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 06/09/2019 16:00:05
Oh Jeez. I didn't even know that film existed until a week or so ago. Just from the poster alone I knew I was never going to watch it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 06/09/2019 16:53:44
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 06/09/2019 15:09:00
It is rare that I turn a movie off even half-way through but this is the first time that, after 20 minutes watching, I've had to fumble for the control, pray I found the stop button fast enough, and then pop the screen the finger and say, our loud, "Fuck you!".

I present to you: Holmes And Watson. May it be played endlessly on repeat to child-molesters in Hell.
I had the exact same problem with Napoleon Dynamite.
If you think Holmes and Watson was bad, then you've not watched people literally saying "duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh" for half an hour.

I thought "surely this can't be the entire film" but after half an hour, I realized it was.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Fri 06/09/2019 17:55:46
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 06/09/2019 16:53:44
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 06/09/2019 15:09:00
It is rare that I turn a movie off even half-way through but this is the first time that, after 20 minutes watching, I've had to fumble for the control, pray I found the stop button fast enough, and then pop the screen the finger and say, our loud, "Fuck you!".

I present to you: Holmes And Watson. May it be played endlessly on repeat to child-molesters in Hell.
I had the exact same problem with Napoleon Dynamite.
If you think Holmes and Watson was bad, then you've not watched people literally saying "duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh" for half an hour.

I thought "surely this can't be the entire film" but after half an hour, I realized it was.

Haha different strokes I guess. I think the movie was pulling the 'dude' stuff in tongue-in-cheek way and that was part of the joke. I wouldn't say it was my favourite movie, but I just thought the movie had a few moments that were funny because some of the characters were so laughably awful (i.e. Napoleon Dynamite's brother that's so into the internet).  :-D

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Fri 06/09/2019 20:54:19
Napoleon Dynamite (or "Nappy D" as my friends call it) is a fantastic movie.  I can understand how some people don't like it.  I found it to be hilarious, and somewhat reminiscent of my favorite television show The Office.  I guess it's the awkward humor and quotability that I enjoy.

I have heard from many sources now that Holmes & Watson was not a good movie.  Shame, I was hoping for a success.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 07/09/2019 00:56:02
Quote from: Stupot on Fri 06/09/2019 16:00:05
Just from the poster alone I knew I was never going to watch it.

Yeah, from the DVD cover I was 90% sure it was going to be pretty bad, but even that turned out to be misleading.

As Maggie Smith so wonderfully stated in The Second Best Exotic Marigold Hotel "I went with no expectations and came away disappointed."

I was hoping that the advertising material was misleading in the extreme. I found this to be the case with the movie "Downsizing" recently.

The previews made it look like it was going to be a one-joke mess about tiny people using normal sized stuff, like the "giant" vodka bottle they show at the BBQ scene, which isn't even in the movie. And there was a bunch of this kind of visual "jokes" in the preview, whereas, in the movie, there is only one such joke and even that is a character playing a silly prank.

The movie itself is SO different from the preview that I think either the advertising team never even saw the movie or were told to deliberately troll the audience.

"Downsizing" is one of the most touching and wonderful films I have seen in years, with unforgettable characters, a unique but perfectly-done story structure, and deeply philosophical while never being preachy. It presents several moral choices and shows the choices the characters make but never suggests these were the right ones, leaving a lot of room for thought and discussion afterwards.

So, yeah, I was hoping this kind of misleading advertising might be the case with Holmes And Watson but immediately, from the opening quote at the start, I could tell this was not going to be the case.

And then it got worse... Much worse... Brrrrrrrrrr...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sat 07/09/2019 01:53:52
I never really got the Will Ferrel thing. I missed that boat. I mean I saw Anchorman and a couple others but they never struck me as being as funny as people made out. I think people mistake quotable for funny.

I have the same thing with most of Judd Apatow's output. I haven't really watch any of them but my friends would all sit there quoting lines from Knocked Up or something and it didn't make me want to watch it. I'm not saying Knocked Up isn't a great film. But I just haven't felt compelled to watch it yet, just so that I can join in with quote sessions.

I think it's like Adam Sandler's “downfall”. People say his films got shit. Looking back I think they were always a bit shit (with a few exceptions). My mum knew they were shit. She would say “why are you watching this shit?” as I cracked up at the next “You can do iiit!” which was somehow funny at the time.

What I'm saying is I think I just realised I don't much like American Comedy films...

huh...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Sat 07/09/2019 04:11:59
+1 on Will Ferrel. No idea what everyone was on about. Even in his SNL days he wasn't funny. I guess the joke was that he physically looks like a stable, middle-aged dude but would randomly yell out something like 'I drive a Dodge Stratus!' (or whatever) at moments when it's awkward to do so. It's half funny the first time I guess, but I would have never guessed a person could build a successful comedic career around that one joke. I think he was part of that SNL era where the show seemed to confuse nonsensical randomness with comedy.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Sat 07/09/2019 04:23:11
To each their own.  I find Ferrel funny in a lot of things, but it can be a bit much at times.  As for Adam Sandler, Billy Madison is one of my all time favorite movies but I don't care much for anything post-Wedding Singer.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 07/09/2019 04:57:34
Quote from: man n fist on Sat 07/09/2019 04:11:59
the show seemed to confuse nonsensical randomness with comedy.

Monty Python: ARE WE A JOKE TO YOU?!

(I think I misused that meme... What is that called? A misdememeor?)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sat 07/09/2019 12:58:00
Monty python...K.I.N.G.S :-D It doesn't matter how many times I watch the biggus d#ckus scene in life of Brian. I still laugh like the first time I watched it. Just a footnote :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 07/09/2019 13:57:32
Quote from: dactylopus on Sat 07/09/2019 04:23:11
To each their own.  I find Ferrel funny in a lot of things, but it can be a bit much at times.  As for Adam Sandler, Billy Madison is one of my all time favorite movies but I don't care much for anything post-Wedding Singer.
Yeah, pretty much all his later movies only exist because they were a form of paid vacation for Sandler and his friends, no one put any effort into anything and everything is financed by enough
product placements to put even Michel Bay to shame.

Regarding the Holmes and Watson movie, I never saw it, but I did see some YouTube reviews of it and it seems spectacularly bad.

Apparently, the big climax of the movie show the two "heroes" finding a bomb on board the Titanic and their hijinks end up destroying the ship. It just sounds like remarkably bad taste,
though sadly I've seen even more inappropriate uses of the Titanic catastrophe in bad kid's movies. Seriously, it's insane how many kid's movies featuring the sinking of Titanic there are!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 07/09/2019 14:39:11
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 07/09/2019 13:57:32
Seriously, it's insane how many kid's movies featuring the sinking of Titanic there are!

Nostalgia Critic fan?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 07/09/2019 15:42:19
Quote from: Mandle on Sat 07/09/2019 14:39:11
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 07/09/2019 13:57:32
Seriously, it's insane how many kid's movies featuring the sinking of Titanic there are!

Nostalgia Critic fan?
Yep, though the worst depiction of Titanic in a kid's movie I've ever seen wasn't even reviewed by him!

It's a Danish film called Samson and Sally, and there's a big musical number where two comedy relief characters
build a human centipede out of the skeletons of the dead crew members and use it as a xylophone!  8-0

I've found a clip from that movie on YouTube, if you skip to about two minutes in you can see the scene for yourself:

Seriously, anyone else thinking that movie was messed up?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 07/09/2019 17:53:25
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 07/09/2019 15:42:19
Seriously, anyone else thinking that movie was messed up?

I'm not that sure about it being messed up.

The Titanic disaster happened a long time ago and few are around today to be traumatized by such content.

For kids it's about the same as pirate skeletons lurking in the wrecks of their ships.

I say let them build all the fictional xylophones they like from the bones of unnamed 100 year old disaster victims.

It's just creepy good fun by now and we might be getting a bit too sensitive these days about such stuff.

Pretty soon, if we take this approach, we won't be able to tell any creepy stories based on real life events.

I would draw the line at making the same kind of humor based on victims of intentional, human-made atrocities, but accidents that happened over 100 years ago...

Fair game in my opinion!

If I had died in such a way I would think it awesome that was remembered still in some way 100+ years later.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Sat 07/09/2019 18:05:25
Jeez I wonder what's going to happen next...

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 07/09/2019 23:31:04
Quote from: Mandle on Sat 07/09/2019 17:53:25
I would draw the line at making the same kind of humor based on victims of intentional, human-made atrocities, but accidents that happened over 100 years ago...
That is a good point, though the problem with the movie is that it also features a "humorous" depiction of the ghosts of the trans atlantic slave trade
right in the same musical number (look for yourselves at about 1:50 in the video), plus they insert a great deal of random WW2 weaponry at the end of the song.

But probably the worst part for me is that I saw this movie as a kid, and knowing the context of the scene is that those two walruses are supposed to be the cutesy comedy relief!
I mean, the hyenas from Lion King used a random animal rib-cage as a xylophone, but they were supposed to be the creepy and evil villains, whereas the walruses in Sampson and Sally
practically wades in weird inappropriate imagery for no reason and kills a whole school of fish in the process and kid's are meant to laugh at them.  :-\

I don't remember much of the actual story, but I do remember thinking that whole segment had no business in a kids movie even when I was a kid watching it.
I do think there is a place for dark humor in animation aimed at older audiences like The Simpsons or Family Guy, but for kids who haven't yet learned satire or
what half of the tragedis referenced  in that song were about and only see "funny" characters laughing at dead people and destruction? Just nope.  (wrong)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 08/09/2019 13:05:25
Quote from: Mandle on Sat 07/09/2019 00:56:02
"Downsizing" is one of the most touching and wonderful films I have seen in years, with unforgettable characters, a unique but perfectly-done story structure, and deeply philosophical while never being preachy. It presents several moral choices and shows the choices the characters make but never suggests these were the right ones, leaving a lot of room for thought and discussion afterwards.
Wait... you liked Downsizing?
You could remove the whole shrinking aspect, and you'd only change the first fifteen minutes of the film!
It's like they combined two half finished film scripts into one.
Here I was waiting for the whole shrinking thing to completely blow up in everyone's face (of which there was plenty of signs pointing to that), and suddenly, the film changed tone and started treating it as set dressing.
There's all sorts of ways they could've handled the film. From big people no longer supporting little people, and rats breaking in, and so on. To a full on apocalypse outside, with the little people all slowly realizing that they depended on big people to survive. So on, and so on. But no, instead they used it as an excuse for the main guy to have a divorce.

I could easily describe the ENTIRE PLOT of that film, without once mentioning the shrinking aspect. Shrinking should not be the least important part of a film, which has shrinking in it!

But let's take a look at it without the fact that they shoe-horned shrinking into it, just to sell tickets. And instead just look at it as the film it is.
In that case... meh. It's alright I guess. If you like that type of film. Personally I've seen it done better.


Quote from: man n fist on Sat 07/09/2019 04:11:59
+1 on Will Ferrel. No idea what everyone was on about.
Same here. I can't think of one film he's been in, that I've liked.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 08/09/2019 13:36:53
Danzare,

MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD
Spoiler
The point for me of the shrinking was to create a Utopia for humanity and save us from our excess waste of resources.

But, it turned into just a way to "cheat" your way into an extravagant lifestyle so the new Utopia was full of the nouveau riche who had suddenly all the wealth they would ever need and nothing to do.

Enter our smuggler character, played amazingly by Christopher Waltz... He is there to provide the suddenly rudderless society with endless drugs, booze, and whatever else is being controlled by the corporation that runs Leisureland.

He doesn't care about size. In fact he let his own brother remain big as his contact on the outside. He only cares about the opportunities there are in this new "wild west" as he describes it. That being said, he turns out to be one of the most likeable characters in the movie.

Then we see the dark side of the utopia: They still need someone to come in and clean up their messes after that day's party is over.

We go to the poor-town outside the walls where the laborers live and see the moral choice the Vietnamese refugee lady makes when it comes to her dying friend.

Then we go to the original little-people settlement in Sweden and it seems at first that they have a true utopia until we start to see that they are a cult like any other.

The smuggler says it best when the choice comes to survive underground or face the environmental disaster to come: "They'll be at each other's throats killing one another within 50 years and we'll still be here for at least the next 300."

Our main character, who has always been drawn towards helping others, goes back to Leisureland and becomes a permanent helper in the Vietnamese lady's "meals-on-wheels" effort.

He hasn't helped save the entire future of the world like he briefly wanted to, but he is taking care of the living for now. He has found peace... And then she honks the horn for him to hurry up... The end.

I thought it was an excellent movie mostly because it didn't focus on the point of people being shrunk.

It was more like, the more things change the more they stay the same.

I was so glad it wasn't just a movie-long episode of Land Of The Giants.
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 09/09/2019 19:16:16
Quote from: Mandle on Sun 08/09/2019 13:36:53
Danzare,

MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD
Spoiler
The point for me of the shrinking was to create a Utopia for humanity and save us from our excess waste of resources.

But, it turned into just a way to "cheat" your way into an extravagant lifestyle so the new Utopia was full of the nouveau riche who had suddenly all the wealth they would ever need and nothing to do.

Enter our smuggler character, played amazingly by Christopher Waltz... He is there to provide the suddenly rudderless society with endless drugs, booze, and whatever else is being controlled by the corporation that runs Leisureland.

He doesn't care about size. In fact he let his own brother remain big as his contact on the outside. He only cares about the opportunities there are in this new "wild west" as he describes it. That being said, he turns out to be one of the most likeable characters in the movie.

Then we see the dark side of the utopia: They still need someone to come in and clean up their messes after that day's party is over.

We go to the poor-town outside the walls where the laborers live and see the moral choice the Vietnamese refugee lady makes when it comes to her dying friend.

Then we go to the original little-people settlement in Sweden and it seems at first that they have a true utopia until we start to see that they are a cult like any other.

The smuggler says it best when the choice comes to survive underground or face the environmental disaster to come: "They'll be at each other's throats killing one another within 50 years and we'll still be here for at least the next 300."

Our main character, who has always been drawn towards helping others, goes back to Leisureland and becomes a permanent helper in the Vietnamese lady's "meals-on-wheels" effort.

He hasn't helped save the entire future of the world like he briefly wanted to, but he is taking care of the living for now. He has found peace... And then she honks the horn for him to hurry up... The end.

I thought it was an excellent movie mostly because it didn't focus on the point of people being shrunk.

It was more like, the more things change the more they stay the same.

I was so glad it wasn't just a movie-long episode of Land Of The Giants.
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I'll hide this part, so as to not spoil it for anyone who wants to watch the film.
Spoiler
Now that's you've described the movie by including the shrinking, let me explain it to you without the shrinking.

Guy divorces his wife and then meets a smuggler in his apartment building who uses illegal immigrants as hired help. He then sees the dark side of the world when he gets to know one of these people. The smuggler turns out to be a pretty decent guy. He then gets invited to go to this place which is supposedly a paradise, only to find out that they're a bit of a cult who has an underground bunker, because they think the world is going to end.
You can literally have the exact same film play out (minus the first fifteen minutes) without having shrinking in it.
(As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that film has already been made.)
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I hated the movie, because it didn't focus on what people were clearly sacrificing by being shrunk down. They were literally selling their freedom and security, for money. They were all relying heavily upon big people to accommodate them, and it was clear at the start, that some people had a problem with that.
I wanted to see the inevitable conclusion of it all. The sad ending where it all falls apart for our main character as the shrinking fad inevitably dies!
I wanted to see the passage of time, the lack of maintenance on Leisureland, the increased prices of miniature products. The people who were shrunk and got lots of money as a result, suddenly ending up on the bottom of the food chain. Rats and cockroaches breaking in. Perhaps even a psychopath (who is big) breaking in early on in the movie, screaming about how he hates little people, and smashing half the city under his foot.
I wanted to see them be abandoned, as you got to see the true dark side of reality, when the inevitable bubble pops. And how greed had fueled it all.
You can't tell me that would've made a worse movie.

You said you like how it was a movie about how the more things change, the more they stay the same. Which proves my point exactly, as it is just a fancy way of saying, the shrinking added nothing. You could have just as easily replaced shrinking with anything else (going to Mars for example) and had the same film. Or as I have said multiple times already, you could've easily removed it entirely!
I believe if you are going to add something major into the story, it should be integral to the story. Any film can say "Oh, and it's set on mars in the future", but it doesn't instantly make it better. Could you imagine if they did that to The Usual Suspects or Pulp Fiction? Would it have made those films better or worse? In my opinion, worse.  >:(

That being said, I'm also glad it wasn't just a movie-long episode of Land of the Giants. Or a remake of Honey I Shrunk the Kids. But come on, if you're going to introduce the social changes caused by people shrinking themselves, you've got to follow through with it. Don't just have it as a backdrop.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Tue 10/09/2019 17:59:45
I haven't seen Downsizing, but Danvzare's complaints reminds me of what really rubbed me the wrong way about Stranger Than Fiction. It takes a high-concept premise, and then never follows through on it. It doesn't ask the obvious questions about the potential of the fantastic thing it has introduced, just uses it as a the backdrop for a run-of-the-mill love story.

That's what makes Charlie Kaufman's scripts so great: he'll start from some wacky idea, but then he'll push them further, really work them out to their ultimate implications. There's a tunnel that puts your mind into John Malkovich's body? Well, what happens if John Malkovich goes through the tunnel? We're in a movie written by one of the characters in the movie? Well, what happens if his hack brother takes over the writing? A lot of other writers who try to work in that surreal vein don't seem to have either the imagination or the courage to actually follow through on their setup.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 12/09/2019 12:26:10
I haven't seen Downsizing, but this whole discussion makes it sound like it's basically Bioshock but with a miniature city instead of an underwater city,
which is completely different from the first impression I got from the marketing, which was basically just Matt Damon messing around with giant props.

It grinds my gears when marketing and trailers completely fail to convey the tone or themes of a film or series. One example I experienced was with
the German TV-series Babylon Berlin (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4378376/), where the trailer I saw made it look like an awful attempt at doing "Game of Thrones, but with nazis", and relying on
edgy imagery of sex and violence paired with super cliche film noir tropes, and I probably would have skipped it entirely if it wasn't for the recommendation
of an acquaintance as well as a review praising the series for avoiding exactly that sort of stuff.

I actually wound up loving the series for it's great visuals and nuanced and complex characters and how it gave a captivating portrait of an interesting historical era,
and how it could deal with mature topics without fetishizing them or reveling in shock imagery and featured marginalized characters without killing them off or reducing
them to tragic victims. Basically, it was the stark opposite of what I saw presented in the trailer, and if that trailer had been all I'd heard of it, I probably would have
missed out on Babylon Berlin entirely, which is kind of the opposite of what marketing is supposed to do.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 12/09/2019 13:30:56
Quote from: Blondbraid on Thu 12/09/2019 12:26:10
which is completely different from the first impression I got from the marketing, which was basically just Matt Damon messing around with giant props.

Yup... It's not that. It's much better than that.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Wed 18/09/2019 21:59:06
I hate it when I'm bidding for something on Ebay... and I'm winning.
But then someone scoops in at the very last second, so no-one else has a chance to bid again. 

If you're interested in an item, just bid on it!  Don't wait for the last second.  That's a low move!   :undecided:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Wed 18/09/2019 22:12:56
I think you should hate Ebay, not someone snipping an item from you... I would bid at the last second too if it was me. I want to pay as less as possible, as so do many people.
That's why many auction sites have an extra anti-snipping police. That if there's a bid in the last 5 minutes then the auction is automatically extended with 5 minutes... real auctions also only stop when there's no more bidders, not cause it hit a certain time.  (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 19/09/2019 05:11:41
I've never heard of that 5-minute policy but it sounds great. I don't use eBay any more but when I did I got burned too many times by snipers and I couldn't play their game because I had slow as hell internet.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 19/09/2019 13:39:57
Quote from: Frodo on Wed 18/09/2019 21:59:06
I hate it when I'm bidding for something on Ebay... and I'm winning.
But then someone scoops in at the very last second, so no-one else has a chance to bid again. 

If you're interested in an item, just bid on it!  Don't wait for the last second.  That's a low move!   :undecided:
You also kind of need to snipe on eBay, to avoid the sellers from outbidding you. You see, in my experience, the seller will want a minimum amount, but won't put in that minimum amount so as to attract people to bid. As soon as someone does though, they'll outbid them with an alternate account until they reach the minimum that they want.
This becomes blatantly obvious when you bid on an item, lose the bid, and then see the exact same item being sold by the exact same seller, the very next day.  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Thu 19/09/2019 13:48:54
Some people use a program and set it to bid few seconds from end of auction..
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 19/09/2019 13:55:56
Quote from: Slasher on Thu 19/09/2019 13:48:54
Some people use a program and set it to bid few seconds from end of auction..
Where can I find this program?
Um... asking for a friend.   (laugh)
That friend being me.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: VampireWombat on Thu 19/09/2019 14:20:05
And this is why I only use buy now on Ebay...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Thu 19/09/2019 16:48:49
Maybe I'm not sneaky and underhanded enough.   :tongue:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Thu 19/09/2019 17:34:30
Bidnapper

https://www.bidnapper.com/?refuser=ggle11-others-auction%20sniper&gclid=Cj0KCQjwzozsBRCNARIsAEM9kBPBzpnv8CyxB9ewMNk-Y_IGQxdk826YXKe8Ckkl4BCcyV_egTgxZWkaAhAWEALw_wcB
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Fri 20/09/2019 04:37:16
Quote from: VampireWombat on Thu 19/09/2019 14:20:05
And this is why I only use buy now on Ebay...
Same.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 20/09/2019 17:49:01
Quote from: Slasher on Thu 19/09/2019 17:34:30
Bidnapper

https://www.bidnapper.com/?refuser=ggle11-others-auction%20sniper&gclid=Cj0KCQjwzozsBRCNARIsAEM9kBPBzpnv8CyxB9ewMNk-Y_IGQxdk826YXKe8Ckkl4BCcyV_egTgxZWkaAhAWEALw_wcB
Looking at it, it looks like a website you pay money to snipe for you.
And considering there's another website named EZ sniper that looks the exactly same, something tells me it's as shady as it looks.
I was hoping for something more along the lines of a program that you run on your computer while you wait.

Looks like I'll be sticking to the buy now only options as well.  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 20/09/2019 23:54:38
By the extremely slipshod look of the site it looks to me like an attempt to phish passwords from people and then, because humans are lazy, try using those passwords to gain access to more important stuff belonging to that person.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Fri 27/09/2019 16:37:31
Sniping is almost a requirement on eBay auctions. I've used a site that used to be called Goofbay, now Goofbid (https://www.goofbid.com/), to auto-snipe, and have not had my password stolen AFAIK.

What grinds my gears is sites that pretend to comply with GDPR rules to give you a way to decline tracking cookies, but actually use "dark patterns" to make it almost impossible to do so, for example by requiring you to deselect hundreds of trackers individually. Perpetrators include Vox and Oath (tumblr, etc.). This is illegal by EU law: the choice to decline tracking must not be substantially more cumbersome than the choice to accept it. I hope they get sued, or even better, that people stop going to their sites.

It particularly annoys me because at my work we spent considerable resources making a good-faith effort to comply with the new rules, as I'm sure most businesses have, while these huge Internet companies try to scam their way out of it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 02/10/2019 11:15:07
What grinds my gears to dust is television. I rarely watch tv but when I go to bed I like to watch something before the snoring begins. These days almost every channel only shows those damn reality shows, and I just hate them. They are taking over almost all airing time, 5000 different cop shows, frozen roads, crab fishing, birth clinic shows, young moms, say yes to the dress, extreme couponing etc etc. It never ends. I F@***%g hate reality shows with all my heart. If they serve a purpose, like a poor family with a broken down house gets a new home i can tolerate them (but i don't watch) at least those shows are doing something helpful.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Wed 02/10/2019 12:00:04
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 02/10/2019 11:15:07
What grinds my gears to dust is television.

Lol, I just misread this sentence in a way that you hate to clean your television set (laugh)
The following rant didn't make any sense under this assumption.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 02/10/2019 16:26:56
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 02/10/2019 11:15:07
What grinds my gears to dust is television.
It's even more gear grinding in Britain if you ask me.
Damn TV license!
And what's worse, even if you don't pay for one, because hey, there's nothing on TV worth watching anyway. They hound you like there's no tomorrow!  8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 02/10/2019 16:58:03
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 02/10/2019 16:26:56
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 02/10/2019 11:15:07
What grinds my gears to dust is television.
It's even more gear grinding in Britain if you ask me.
Damn TV license!
And what's worse, even if you don't pay for one, because hey, there's nothing on TV worth watching anyway. They hound you like there's no tomorrow!  8-0

It's the same here in Japan. The NHK channel guys come knocking for payment, but if you're a foreigner like me and tell them to go away they generally don't come back.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Wed 02/10/2019 17:13:42
Over here, you have to pay the licence if you own a tv set or a computer/mobil (because you can see via net)... and because a lot don't pay it, they are changing it, so you just pay it thru your taxes instead.  8-0
Plug a dvd player or something else, and watch what you want. Regular TV (as in they decide what you watch and when) is dead, they have just not realized it yet.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Wed 02/10/2019 18:08:47

In Italy the tv license is o the bill of electricity, so have to pay the tv even food retailers and groceryes and other shops that dont'have it!  >:(

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 02/10/2019 22:06:01
@Mouthforwar - There really is very little left on regular TV worth watching. That's where Netflix comes in.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 03/10/2019 03:10:33
Haha cleaning the tv set is not that geargrinding...BUT...dust is quite annoying though :-D  we used to have that tv license  too but we also pay for it  through taxes now. Everyone over 18 with an income must pay it so you can't evade the license anymore XD Even when the store reported that you had bought a tv  you could just say "Oh I've already sold it" and they couldn't prove anything :-D but yeah noone should have to pay taxes when all you get are those god damn reality shows...grrrrrr i want to round up all of those responsible for all reality shows and do things to them....things that would hurt...a lot...and then i would ask them "Do you still think it was a good idea for a show?". I guess Michael Douglas said it best in one of the greatest movies ever made - Falling Down "Now you're gonna die wearing that stupid little hat, how does it feel?" Such a great movie!!! :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 05/10/2019 12:49:21
Urgh, I hate reality TV, and the worst part of all is that for probably 90% of the run time they aren't even showing the cooking/dancing/car remodeling or whatever the audience is actually there to see, it's just the worst kind of filler with the hosts nattering endlessly about random nonsense or spending several minutes in a row asking the participants again and again weather they feel pumped doing whatever they came to do on tv, which is just plain stupid considering they probably wouldn't beg to be doing it on TV if they weren't.  (wrong)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 05/10/2019 15:32:31
Here in Japan probably about 50% of TV is unscripted "Reality TV" and always has been: Celebs heading out and about just doing stuff like drinking at a bar, and rating it, or attempting to feed a bunch of people with a zero-yen budget etc.

And some of it is pretty entertaining but, yeah, the "unscripted" part I mentioned is vital. Western reality TV is becoming too obviously controlled to get maximum drama in the minimum time.

The Japanese stuff is still edited together to give maximum entertainment value, of course, but at least you can tell those segments are genuine people being themselves (for the most part).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 07/10/2019 16:06:32
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 05/10/2019 12:49:21
Urgh, I hate reality TV, and the worst part of all is that for probably 90% of the run time they aren't even showing the cooking/dancing/car remodeling or whatever the audience is actually there to see, it's just the worst kind of filler with the hosts nattering endlessly about random nonsense or spending several minutes in a row asking the participants again and again weather they feel pumped doing whatever they came to do on tv, which is just plain stupid considering they probably wouldn't beg to be doing it on TV if they weren't.  (wrong)
Actually, I find that 90% of the content to be nothing but recaps.
Here's an example of how they usually go in my opinion:
"This person turns poop into food! Let's see what they can find today."
"Ooh, poop, I'm going to turn this into food."
*adverts*
"To recap, this person turns poop into food! He then found poop!"
"Ooh, poop. I'm going to turn this into food."
"Let's see what he does with it."
"I'm going to put it in a blender."
*adverts*
(Then of course you recap everything AGAIN. Rinse and repeat until you have an entire episode.)

Quote from: Mandle on Sat 05/10/2019 15:32:31
Here in Japan probably about 50% of TV is unscripted "Reality TV" and always has been
Only 50% of TV content is Reality TV!  :-D
That sounds awesome!
It's about 85% here in England.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Tue 08/10/2019 11:52:29
I just can't believe that they turn every little damn thing into a show. Here in Sweden they started, simply translated "Vehicle inspection" it makes my blood boil. Who the hell wants to watch a show where people come and get their vehicled inspected and then watch the employees have a barbecue in a garden somewhere? What really pissed me off is how they promoted this year's season "Finally they're back" it's bad enough they show that crap but do they honestly believe that anyone missed them "My house burnt down and then I got fired and my dog died but no worries Vehicle inspection is finally back" grrrrrrr :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Tue 08/10/2019 12:34:09

No reality-show about gamemakers?  (laugh)

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 08/10/2019 12:45:22
Quote from: TheFrighter on Tue 08/10/2019 12:34:09
No reality-show about gamemakers?  (laugh)_

Sounds like an AGS community project waiting to happen!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Tue 08/10/2019 13:46:54
Quote from: TheFrighter on Tue 08/10/2019 12:34:09

No reality-show about gamemakers?  (laugh)

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now we're getting somewhere :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 08/10/2019 16:51:34
Quote from: Mouth for war on Tue 08/10/2019 13:46:54
Quote from: TheFrighter on Tue 08/10/2019 12:34:09

No reality-show about gamemakers?  (laugh)

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now we're getting somewhere :-D
I'd watch it.  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 08/10/2019 20:41:35
Quote from: Danvzare on Tue 08/10/2019 16:51:34
Quote from: Mouth for war on Tue 08/10/2019 13:46:54
Quote from: TheFrighter on Tue 08/10/2019 12:34:09

No reality-show about gamemakers?  (laugh)

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now we're getting somewhere :-D
I'd watch it.  (nod)
It's a great idea, but I'm afraid reality-TV people would just find a way to muck it up with a ton of the aforementioned filler and recaps, lazy stereotypes of game developers as
weirdos living in their parent's basements with empty mountain dew bottles as their sole company, and probably gratuitous apple product placement galore.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: VampireWombat on Tue 08/10/2019 20:48:18
Isn't this what Youtube is for?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Thu 10/10/2019 01:15:50
It grinds my gears, these armchair activists that are ready to get extra passionate about whatever the media put in their heads this week. This vaping frenzy is the perfect example.

The media deluges them with the 7, 8, 9 deaths that have now been associated with vaping. Not even with vaping itself, but with tainted cartridges. "But did you hear? 10 people who use vapes have now died! When will someone stop this madness?!"

Never mind cigarettes probably kill more people than that in a day. No thought is given to where those nicotine addicts will go for their fix once vapes are banned. These people are just ever ready to repeat exactly what they have been told, and nothing more. ("ANTIFREEZUH")
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Thu 10/10/2019 10:46:09
Quote from: Jack on Thu 10/10/2019 01:15:50
It grinds my gears, these armchair activists that are ready to get extra passionate about whatever the media put in their heads this week. This vaping frenzy is the perfect example.

The media deluges them with the 7, 8, 9 deaths that have now been associated with vaping. Not even with vaping itself, but with tainted cartridges. "But did you hear? 10 people who use vapes have now died! When will someone stop this madness?!"

Never mind cigarettes probably kill more people than that in a day. No thought is given to where those nicotine addicts will go for their fix once vapes are banned. These people are just ever ready to repeat exactly what they have been told, and nothing more. ("ANTIFREEZUH")

"SHOCK vaping DEATHS you won't BELIEVE" I'd rather smell unicorn fart smelling vapes than cigarette smoke any day of the week. What grinds my gears is these clickbait headlines that seem to be written by a bot. I get recommended articles come up on my phone, there's one website that has "SHOCK" in capitals every single article. Then if you do actually click it it's nowhere near as "SHOCKING", in fact it's an article about "NOTHING".
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Thu 10/10/2019 21:30:03
Sounds like you're subscribed to one of those British tabloids, like the BBC.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 11/10/2019 01:08:32
Quote from: Retro Wolf on Thu 10/10/2019 10:46:09
Quote from: Jack on Thu 10/10/2019 01:15:50
It grinds my gears, these armchair activists that are ready to get extra passionate about whatever the media put in their heads this week. This vaping frenzy is the perfect example.

The media deluges them with the 7, 8, 9 deaths that have now been associated with vaping. Not even with vaping itself, but with tainted cartridges. "But did you hear? 10 people who use vapes have now died! When will someone stop this madness?!"

Never mind cigarettes probably kill more people than that in a day. No thought is given to where those nicotine addicts will go for their fix once vapes are banned. These people are just ever ready to repeat exactly what they have been told, and nothing more. ("ANTIFREEZUH")

"SHOCK vaping DEATHS you won't BELIEVE" I'd rather smell unicorn fart smelling vapes than cigarette smoke any day of the week. What grinds my gears is these clickbait headlines that seem to be written by a bot. I get recommended articles come up on my phone, there's one website that has "SHOCK" in capitals every single article. Then if you do actually click it it's nowhere near as "SHOCKING", in fact it's an article about "NOTHING".
Exactly. It reminds me of just how many clickbaity headlines that gets pumped out about "millenials be crazy" and anything gets painted as a worldwide youth frenzy even when the only people recorded doing it were a handful of people as a joke or bet, or in case of all alarmist stories of teens eating tide pods, not even that. Like, I've yet to see one single verified news story of a real teenager eating one, yet there were tons of clickbait articles on it for a while.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sat 12/10/2019 20:14:35
DRM grinds my gears, and today is the International Day Against DRM (https://www.defectivebydesign.org/blog/help_defend_right_read_stand_against_drm_october_12th).

A few years ago I stopped buying games with DRM. The final straw for me was the frequent multi-gigabyte forced updates from GTA V. When will games companies learn that they need to provide a better product than the one you get from a surprise discount?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Click'd on Sat 12/10/2019 21:48:47
They learned long ago that people will buy anything.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Wed 16/10/2019 08:24:35
"Do you have a moment to jump on a quick call?"

No. Learn reading comprehension and don't waste my time.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 16/10/2019 08:32:55
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Wed 16/10/2019 08:24:35
"Do you have a moment to jump on a quick call?"

No. Learn reading comprehension and don't waste my time.


The quick, brown Laura jumped on the lazy call.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Wed 16/10/2019 09:36:07
Quote from: Mandle on Wed 16/10/2019 08:32:55
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Wed 16/10/2019 08:24:35
"Do you have a moment to jump on a quick call?"

No. Learn reading comprehension and don't waste my time.


The quick, brown Laura jumped on the lazy call.

(laugh) :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 16/10/2019 17:14:53
Quote from: Jack on Sat 12/10/2019 20:14:35
DRM grinds my gears, and today is the International Day Against DRM (https://www.defectivebydesign.org/blog/help_defend_right_read_stand_against_drm_october_12th).
DRM is exactly why I prefer to play my big budget games on a console.
The only DRM you have to deal with on those, if having to insert the disc every time you want to play the game. Which is something I grew up with, and don't mind as a result.

I'll always be a PC gamer at heart. But because of DRM alone, I'll always play so called "AAA" games on a console. And if you need me to prove it, just look up Assassin's Creed Origins. (Not that I'd play such a terrible game anyway.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Wed 16/10/2019 19:26:35
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 16/10/2019 17:14:53
DRM is exactly why I prefer to play my big budget games on a console.

I could years ago get over the fact that console games were sold at double the price of PC games, but modern console prices are just offensive to me. That's beside the "features" of always-on cameras and mics.

Quote from: Laura Hunt on Wed 16/10/2019 08:24:35
"Do you have a moment to jump on a quick call?"

No. Learn reading comprehension and don't waste my time.

Also, this.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 16/10/2019 22:11:44
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 16/10/2019 17:14:53
I'll always be a PC gamer at heart. But because of DRM alone, I'll always play so called "AAA" games on a console. And if you need me to prove it, just look up Assassin's Creed Origins. (Not that I'd play such a terrible game anyway.)
Assassin's Creed Origins is the only Assassin's Creed game that I've started but never finished, and I didn't even bother with Odyssey due to the obnoxious trend of all AAA games turning into the same RPG/Sandbox blaha where you have to spend ages travelling giant maps with nothing worthwhile in them and all the fun abilities are arbitrarily locked behind a skill tree forcing you to do a bunch of pointless busywork and repetitive sidequests instead of just being able to do all the cool stuff you came for from the start.

Seriously, why cant modern AAA devs just make a well-paced game that prioritizes fun and unique gameplay instead of this ubiquitous mess of aimless open-world grinding?
It's gotten so bad some games are even offering boost packages as dlc just so players can skip the grind, which defeats the entire purpose of games for entertainment.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Thu 17/10/2019 00:06:56
Quote from: Blondbraid on Wed 16/10/2019 22:11:44
Seriously, why cant modern AAA devs just make a well-paced game that prioritizes fun and unique gameplay instead of this ubiquitous mess of aimless open-world grinding?
It's gotten so bad some games are even offering boost packages as dlc just so players can skip the grind, which defeats the entire purpose of games for entertainment.

a) Then they can't deliver the premium team-based open-world experience with customisable hats, that the focus group told them is currently a hot item with young adults ages 11 to 40.
b) (most importantly) Then they can't offer people with money to spend in-game the opportunity to skip all the grinding (https://old.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98/).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 17/10/2019 00:52:38
Quote from: Blondbraid on Wed 16/10/2019 22:11:44
Seriously, why cant modern AAA devs just make a well-paced game that prioritizes fun and unique gameplay instead of this ubiquitous mess of aimless open-world grinding?

It's a cheap and nasty way to pad the runtime of the game without having to bother with all that annoyingly difficult "content" stuff?

(I don't mind grinding in RPGs if the combat experience is varied and tactically challenging enough but if it's just "hit-get hit-hit-get hit-you win or lose" it gets old fast)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 17/10/2019 14:15:27
What grinds my gears is the AGS Translation system...

It can go fuck itself.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 17/10/2019 16:40:24
Quote from: Blondbraid on Wed 16/10/2019 22:11:44
Seriously, why cant modern AAA devs just make a well-paced game that prioritizes fun and unique gameplay instead of this ubiquitous mess of aimless open-world grinding?
It's gotten so bad some games are even offering boost packages as dlc just so players can skip the grind, which defeats the entire purpose of games for entertainment.
That right there, is exactly WHY they now make all of their games aimless open-world grindfests.
They're no longer in the business of making games. They're in the business of selling you time-savers, so you don't have to play their terrible games. (Which begs the question as to why people are still buying their games. I have a few theories, but nothing I can say with certainty.)
I could go into a really long rant about the corruption of RPG mechanics to sell cheat codes, and how Assassin's Creed new leveling system is an offense to both the Assassin's Creed franchise and RPG mechanics as a whole.
But I don't want to write that much.  (laugh)

Quote from: Mandle on Thu 17/10/2019 14:15:27
What grinds my gears is the AGS Translation system...

It can go fuck itself.
As someone who has never really used the AGS Translation system, could you please tell me why it's so terrible.
It always looked "good enough" to me.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 18/10/2019 00:47:48
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 17/10/2019 16:40:24
As someone who has never really used the AGS Translation system, could you please tell me why it's so terrible.
It always looked "good enough" to me.

Meh, it's workable. I was in a really bad mood when I wrote that.

But, when you have a 100 page-length translation and have to write the translated dialog in every second line, including the &27, for example, dialog numbers it's easy to make mistakes here and there, like hitting "enter" by accident and creating an extra line, which throws off the whole translation, or deleting a line by accident, or deleting the "return" space forcing two lines together, or an unintended space between the & and the number, or many other things.

Then you have to scroll through the 100 pages to try and find all the errors, which I was doing yesterday for like 5 or 6 hours and still couldn't get the damn thing working yet.

I know there are programs that people have made to make things easier. I should probably be using one of them and will look into this next time.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 18/10/2019 12:30:43
There are? Please share when you do find it!  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 18/10/2019 23:51:52
Well put, everyone.
I suppose what really grinds my gears regarding AAA games is that most of them have budgets larger than the GDP of minor nations to the point profit is the only thing that matter and we ger focus-tested-to-hell bland sandboxes with a ton of micro-transactions as a result.

And looking for alternatives, small indie games can be both fun and charming, but being made by just one or a handful of amateurs still do limit the scope of what can be done with games and not all genres work well with this formula. What I'm really missing is AA games made by minor studios that have some resources and professional experience, but can still take enough risk not to be a lesser clone of the Ubisof desert, but such games are harder to find than a Jeff Goldblum movie where he doesn't go "Uhhm" in every scene he's in.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 19/10/2019 15:02:10
Quote from: Blondbraid on Fri 18/10/2019 23:51:52
harder to find than a Jeff Goldblum movie where he doesn't go "Uhhm" in every scene he's in.

I'm working on an algorithm that predicts exactly how much Jeff Goldblum is needed in any specific movie given its tone and genre...

So far the results are:

Jurassic Park: 15% (almost perfect to the actual appearance time which is about 15.5%)

Jurassic Park. The Lost World: 37% (yeah, he waaaaay overstayed his welcome here)

Thor Ragnarok: 8% (He actually only clocked in at about 6% but close enough)

The Fly: 83% (The algorithm is working)

The Godfather: 23% (GODDAMMIT!!! Back to the drawing board!)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Mon 21/10/2019 09:35:11
From Laura's List of Office Pet Peeves: people who smash their keyboards when they type as if they were releasing all their childhood frustrations on the poor thing.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 21/10/2019 09:37:18
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Mon 21/10/2019 09:35:11
From Laura's List of Office Pet Peeves: people who smash their keyboards when they type as if they were releasing all their childhood frustrations on the poor thing.

And people who poke their monitors with their finger when showing you something.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Mon 21/10/2019 09:55:52
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 21/10/2019 09:37:18
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Mon 21/10/2019 09:35:11
From Laura's List of Office Pet Peeves: people who smash their keyboards when they type as if they were releasing all their childhood frustrations on the poor thing.

And people who poke their monitors with their finger when showing you something.

Hahaha, and people who double click on things that need only one click.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 25/10/2019 04:54:23
Not really a gear-grinder but wanted to share this but not make a new thread:

(Hidden due to being a bit longish)
Spoiler
This is how I deal with trolls and weirdos in comments sections:
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Original Poster:
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sydIRISH
1 month ago
If Goblin would compose the soundtrack to my life....I'd live and die happy.

One of my favorite groups of all time. "Dawn of the Dead" (1978) will be buried with me.
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My reply (My YouTube name is "ManDevil"... long story) :
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ManDevil
20 hours ago
But will it stay buried?
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Then a back-and-forth with this random guy:
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Andrew Purdy
20 hours ago
@ManDevil Without Faith in Christ Jesus, the answer is an astounding NO..

How to become a Zombie: reject God's Son!

Woohoo!!!!!!!!
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Andrew Purdy
20 hours ago
"Man Devil" .. Fuck ye gotta love how God sets this shit up.. lol
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ManDevil
20 hours ago
@Andrew Purdy Are you doing a "bit"?
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Andrew Purdy
20 hours ago
@ManDevil Sure, you go ahead and believe  that and just spend eternity in Hell.

Sure, you "do that thang!"
I'mma 'troll'..
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ManDevil
19 hours ago
@Andrew Purdy Okay, sounds like a plan!
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Andrew Purdy
19 hours ago
@ManDevil Hey 'ManDevil' .. lemme ask you a question..

Who would do that?.. study, confess, profess the Creator of all things .. even going so far as putting faith in what the Prophets said, that all, ALL, even those lost to Satan must RISE from their graves .. those betraying God by betraying His Son, becoming a "Walking Pestilence" ..

WHO in thee ALL flying FUCK would honestly research, and [gulp] BELIEVE it, then turn around to "Troll" others???

Seriously, ye gotta be damn retarded to even "go there"..

"Are you doing a bit?" .. WTF..

You Devil Men are the INSANE assholes [as I am accused of DAILY!]

WHO on Earth would do that!?
[I guess an Evil shit might.. but I would NEVER do such a Damned thing!]
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Andrew Purdy
19 hours ago (edited)
I plus your turd comment, for it proves Bible Truth

Mockers and scoffers shall come, OH Hell YES they did!.. BY (BYE!) the damn droves!
...
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ManDevil
19 hours ago
@Andrew Purdy Wait... Are you... are you breaking up with me?!
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Andrew Purdy
18 hours ago
@ManDevil .. might sound silly, but man did that make me smile.

You'll see, you'll see..

...I used to be you, "Logical" "Individual" .. I just truly pity ye (not just you!) ..

Just that simple.. "Those who laugh now, cry Later"_ Christ Jesus, Son of God.

"Carry on" .. when you hear the "Sky Trumpets" and there's all sorts of "Alien" "Shit" "Going DOWN!"

..Nope.. not a 'troll', just a tired old Elect of God, yelling at the World (as Prophesied) .. Love ye all, but ye all just go and die (as prophesied!... Sucks, but the Truth!)
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ManDevil
17 hours ago
@Andrew Purdy You do you, dude... You do you...
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[close]

Because my YouTube name is "ManDevil" I attract a lot of religious nuts trying to save my soul I guess. The thing is, it's only "ManDevil" by coincidence really. I put a video on my channel of a ghost as part of the setup for a ghost story challenge for a kids' summer camp. But my YouTube name at the time was "MandleRoss" so they would have seen it and known it was a fake, planted by me. So I tried to just change my name to "Mandle" but it was taken so I went with "ManDevil" as it was kind of close and had an ominous ring to it for the ghost story prank. And then I just got used to it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Fri 25/10/2019 07:46:00
What does

Are you doing a "bit"?

mean?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: lorenzo on Fri 25/10/2019 07:49:23
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 25/10/2019 04:54:23
Because my YouTube name is "ManDevil" I attract a lot of religious nuts trying to save my soul I guess.
What?!? You're the guy behind ManDevil?! That's my favourite devil-worshipping channel on Youtube! I always go there, when I need instruction on how to summon demons and so on. The flat earth stuff is pretty decent as well.  ;)
Keep up the good work, mate!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Fri 25/10/2019 08:10:04
Quote from: cat on Fri 25/10/2019 07:46:00
What does

Are you doing a "bit"?

mean?

Basically a joke, or a comedy routine.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Fri 25/10/2019 08:16:13
Also, I'm totally stealing "WHO in thee ALL flying FUCK" for myself (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 25/10/2019 10:28:31
Quote from: lorenzo on Fri 25/10/2019 07:49:23
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 25/10/2019 04:54:23
Because my YouTube name is "ManDevil" I attract a lot of religious nuts trying to save my soul I guess.
What?!? You're the guy behind ManDevil?! That's my favourite devil-worshipping channel on Youtube! I always go there, when I need instruction on how to summon demons and so on. The flat earth stuff is pretty decent as well.  ;)
Keep up the good work, mate!

ROFL!!!

Quote from: Laura Hunt on Fri 25/10/2019 08:16:13
Also, I'm totally stealing "WHO in thee ALL flying FUCK" for myself (laugh)

Yeah, nutjobs can have great catchphrases.

Also, yes, "doing a bit" means acting out a comedy routine, especially stand-up comedy.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sun 27/10/2019 00:15:30
When you're at the supermarket and in a hurry, you walk up to the store clerk thinking "Yes only one person before me" and that one person starts arguing for 30 minutes about how he/she paid 1 penny/cent/whatever your country's currency is, too much for something. After a while I'm just picturing myself strangling that person :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sun 27/10/2019 01:19:25
It really ground my gears when I saw Mouth for war at a grocery store yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn't want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you're doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don't even think that's a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 27/10/2019 02:34:37
OMG Jack WTF?!

But, I'll admit, I did laugh out loud a few times.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sun 27/10/2019 03:17:54
Never meet your heroes, Jack.  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Sun 27/10/2019 06:32:53
Guys, your meme game is weak https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-saw-flying-lotus-in-a-grocery-store-copypasta?full=1
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 27/10/2019 08:07:58
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Sun 27/10/2019 06:32:53
Guys, your meme game is weak https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-saw-flying-lotus-in-a-grocery-store-copypasta?full=1

Hahaha... I kind of half-thought it might be something like that.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sun 27/10/2019 23:35:35
I'd NEVER pay for milky way!!!!! :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: AnasAbdin on Mon 04/11/2019 19:14:46
(https://i.imgur.com/sKVUu4c.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Mon 04/11/2019 19:39:07
+1
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 05/11/2019 16:19:13
I just use my adblocker to block those elements, so I can click past them.
It surprisingly works about 75% of the time.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 07/11/2019 15:44:13
Quote from: Danvzare on Tue 05/11/2019 16:19:13
I just use my adblocker to block those elements, so I can click past them.
It surprisingly works about 75% of the time.
For me, those numbers are the opposite, and that's not even counting all the sites that don't let you use adblockers.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Thu 07/11/2019 17:00:29
Uhm, frankly if the site doesn't work with adblockers or needs javascript, then I just don't use it, unless it's a site I trust/need to use.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 07/11/2019 17:41:26
Quote from: Blondbraid on Thu 07/11/2019 15:44:13
Quote from: Danvzare on Tue 05/11/2019 16:19:13
I just use my adblocker to block those elements, so I can click past them.
It surprisingly works about 75% of the time.
For me, those numbers are the opposite, and that's not even counting all the sites that don't let you use adblockers.
I've actually managed to use adblocker to block the elements that stop me using the sites that don't let me use adblockers.  :-D
Although that is quite rare. And usually you have to block the same element on every single page.
Usually I just do what Cassiebsg does. And not use it unless I really trust the site, or need to use it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Thu 07/11/2019 17:56:19
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Thu 07/11/2019 17:00:29
Uhm, frankly if the site doesn't work with adblockers or needs javascript, then I just don't use it, unless it's a site I trust/need to use.

Same, but we're in the minority. Javascript from multiple sources, like google, to accomplish simple things is the norm for lazy-ass developers and lazy-ass users.

It grinds my gears, sites which don't actually require javascript to function, being blank pages without javascript enabled. I used to think they just served nothing, until I found out all the text and images are downloaded and rendered as normal, there's just a full size blank element placed over all of it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Fri 15/11/2019 16:01:53

I use IObit Surfing Protection & Ads Removal but I have the same problems!

_
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Fri 15/11/2019 17:21:25
An "accept cookies" box and ad banners are two very different things :P
I don't mind cookie banners since if you click them once, they're gone forever. And uBlock Origin works very well for me; I rarely ever encounter a site where I have to turn it off to see content.
What does grind my gears is that these cookies banners are nothing but theatrics while the actual issues with data collection remain unresolved.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Sun 24/11/2019 20:49:40
I'm currently working on a German translation and of course had problems with Umlauts (while they worked for a previous translation). I was already preparing a post on the technical board, when I rechecked the character encoding of the trs file and realized, it was UTF8 instead of ANSI  (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 25/11/2019 01:46:05
Quote from: cat on Sun 24/11/2019 20:49:40
I'm currently working on a German translation and of course had problems with Umlauts (while they worked for a previous translation). I was already preparing a post on the technical board, when I rechecked the character encoding of the trs file and realized, it was UTF8 instead of ANSI  (roll)

I had the exact same problem with the Italian translation of Chronicle Of Innsmouth Mountains Of Madness, which went unnoticed for ages through many versions and which I am still repairing... So annoying!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 25/11/2019 13:17:19
I was at a cafe yesterday and they had a copy of the first in the Narnia series of books on their shelf. In Japanese.

In disbelief I checked the name of the book twice and made sure it was the C.S.Lewis book translation.

It was.

The name of the book, translated from Japanese, is "The Lion And The Witch."

Goddammit!!! They effed-up the very reason why the title is so intriguing and would make a kid want to read it.

This grinds my gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: VampireWombat on Mon 25/11/2019 14:44:53
Maybe whoever translated the title wanted to hide the importance of the wardrobe? Or was just lazy...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 25/11/2019 15:21:40
Quote from: VampireWombat on Mon 25/11/2019 14:44:53
Maybe whoever translated the title wanted to hide the importance of the wardrobe? Or was just lazy...

It is the single most important wardrobe in human history... Closely followed by the one in The Cure video "Close To Me"...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Wed 11/12/2019 09:56:38
Loud typers. There's few things that get more on my nerves than some idiot hammering at their keyboard like a 3-year old banging on a toy laptop. I hope there's a special place in hell for them where they will go no matter what else they did in life.


(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DependableOddballAldabratortoise-small.gif)


Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 11/12/2019 10:07:44
Nice Panda Cheese GIF
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Sat 28/12/2019 20:17:31
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Wed 11/12/2019 09:56:38
Loud typers. There's few things that get more on my nerves than some idiot hammering at their keyboard like a 3-year old banging on a toy laptop. I hope there's a special place in hell for them where they will go no matter what else they did in life.
The funniest I've noticed (with multiple people, so I suspect it is a thing) is Enter-slammers. Their typing is going all normally, and then suddenly...WHAM!
tptptptptptptptpptptptpptptp...WHAM!

Why slam enter? :D

As for what grinds my gears, because I just saw it in "Lost in Space" (a show someone recommended to me as great), is scientist people, intelligent people, smart people, getting to a new planet or new piece of rock in space, and then immediately (or in the first few moments possible), taking off their helmets, and having one guy be all "Oh no, why did you do that!", and the reply being "Oh, the air is safe!".

Very often, even in the same episode, everyone later comes down with a "mysterious" illness, and they're all stupefied as to how that could have happened, and yet they do it again in a later episode.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 01/01/2020 09:59:02
Quote from: Babar on Sat 28/12/2019 20:17:31
As for what grinds my gears, because I just saw it in "Lost in Space" (a show someone recommended to me as great), is scientist people, intelligent people, smart people, getting to a new planet or new piece of rock in space, and then immediately (or in the first few moments possible), taking off their helmets, and having one guy be all "Oh no, why did you do that!", and the reply being "Oh, the air is safe!".

Very often, even in the same episode, everyone later comes down with a "mysterious" illness, and they're all stupefied as to how that could have happened, and yet they do it again in a later episode.
A big reason I didn't like Prometheus.

When people got killed in the first Alien movie, it was scary. When people got killed in Prometheus, it was basic Darwinism.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 01/01/2020 21:40:40
https://youtu.be/Bbzuu14bGgs

I have spent probably days of my life complaining about Prometheus. Truly one of those "don't get me started" topics.

Incidentally, I'm typing this on one of those fucking Macbook "butterfly" keyboards. Apart from the pitiful travel, they make a noise like I'm a journalist pecking out the latest scoop in a black and white movie.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 01/01/2020 22:44:02
Quote from: Snarky on Wed 01/01/2020 21:40:40
I have spent probably days of my life complaining about Prometheus. Truly one of those "don't get me started" topics.

I had to pay an employee to cover my lessons at work to go and see that movie as soon as it came out. That is how excited I was about the prospect of a new Alien movie BY Ridley Scott!

So it cost me around $100 to see that movie.

The moment it ended I was NOT feeling very generous towards the value of human life and said out-loud in a TRAVELING voice "At least now we know why his brother jumped off that bridge." and some groups of westerners around me burst out in laughter and were like "Yeah, that SUCKED!".

It was not a nice thing to say, of course, but that is how pissed off I was.

Spent the next 5 hours or so getting drunk with my mate I saw it with and tearing the movie to shreds. At least THAT was fun.

Oh, and just to be sure not to get Snarky started...

How about the very first opening shot of the amazing ship powering through space, with the titles of the movie COVERING IT UP so you couldn't see it too good?! 

How about the "mapping-expert" they brought along being the first to get lost in what was basically ONE GIANT CORRIDOR?!

How about the dude that was terrified when he saw the dead aliens being the first to try patting the penis-snake thingy?!

How about the running away from the rolling... No, that one, I just...

Honestly, it was like the Scary Movie people had made a parody of an Alien movie.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 03/01/2020 09:58:18
Posting that Galaxy Quest clip just reminded me of another thing that grinds my gears:
there are no good spoof/parody movies made anymore. Instead you get serious franchises becoming ridiculous and garbage like the Scary movie sequels,
which are nothing but toilet humor and pointless references that only serves to remind you that better movies exist.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Crimson Wizard on Fri 03/01/2020 11:01:18
Quote from: Blondbraid on Fri 03/01/2020 09:58:18
Posting that Galaxy Quest clip just reminded me of another thing that grinds my gears:
there are no good spoof/parody movies made anymore. Instead you get serious franchises becoming ridiculous and garbage like the Scary movie sequels,
which are nothing but toilet humor and pointless references that only serves to remind you that better movies exist.

Agreed!
And while there are lots of movies that BEG to be parodied.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 03/01/2020 11:08:26
Space Balls II, based on the new trilogy!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Fri 03/01/2020 11:46:25
Quote from: Blondbraid on Fri 03/01/2020 09:58:18
there are no good spoof/parody movies made anymore. Instead you get serious franchises becoming ridiculous and garbage like the Scary movie sequels,

I don't entirely agree.

I think there have been some pretty good movie spoofs within the last ten years or so (at least, more recent than the Scary Movie sequels). For example Wet Hot American Summer (the first Netflix show, if the movie doesn't count), Walk Hard, Tucker & Dale vs. Evil, 21/22 Jump Street, They Came Together, Spy, Popstar, What We Do in the Shadows… I haven't seen the MacGruber movie, but I've heard that it's growing into cult status.

And plenty of movies incorporate genre parody elements, either to poke fun of their own genre or as part of a more general comedy, without IMHO becoming ridiculous: Deadpool, The Lego Movie, Wreck-It Ralph, The Nice Guys, Into the Spider-Verse, The Cabin in the Woods, Knives Out, Jumanji, Game Night, Happy Death Day, Damsels in Distress, Isn't It Romantic… (I didn't care much for Kingsman, Ready or Not, or The Man from UNCLE, but they also appeal to some.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 03/01/2020 16:09:48
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 03/01/2020 11:08:26
Space Balls II, based on the new trilogy!
They wouldn't even need to do much. Just take the script for The Last Jedi, and have none of the actors take it seriously. Boom, perfect parody!  :-D
I once tried to describe the plot of that film, and it sounded like I was describing Space Balls II.
From Leia going Superman, Luke drinking milk almost directly from the alien titty, to pink-haired-lady being forced into a kamikaze as soon as Leia woke up. It's practically a self-parody.

"There's literally only one person in the entire galaxy who has the skills to help you!"
*They go to that guy, then immediately get imprisoned for illegally parking.*
*Then someone in the same cell talks to them.*
"Hey, I have those skills too!"

And then of course:
"This guy took over the galaxy directly after Palpatine. Who is he? How did he do it? Well you see... he's dead now. Who cares."  (laugh)

Even if you love the movie, you've got to admit that it had a LOT of ridiculous moments in it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 03/01/2020 16:38:36
I actually liked The Last Jedi, but I agree that it had many dumb plotholes that could have easily been avoided.

For example, I remember reading that in an earlier draft of the script, the rebels had gained intel that there was a spy on board their ship,
and the reason the pink-haired lady and Poe couldn't just explain their plans to one another was because both thought the other could be the mole.
Why did they have to cut that out?!

But my other problem with the new trilogy is the Force awakens, where they basically erased all achievements of Luke and Leia in the original trilogy
in order to just redo most of A new hope again, and I think the big problem with Snokes comes because they wanted to shoehorn in a Palpatine-replacement
as well as an army of storm troopers, despite the fact that it'd make no sense in reality, and that would have been hard for any writer to make into a satisfying story.

Just to give some perspective on just how stupid the whole New Order felt to me, the closest historical equivalent would be how Germany started WW2 after losing WW1,
but now imagine that instead of changing their technology, strategy and entire political landscape in response to such a big loss, the Germans would have just gotten
a new Kaiser that had exactly the same military strategies and personality as the old one.  (wrong)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 03/01/2020 19:10:56
uhm... it grind my gears when people discuss movies outside of it's own thread and don't use spoiler tags.  :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 03/01/2020 23:21:59
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Fri 03/01/2020 19:10:56
uhm... it grind my gears when people discuss movies outside of it's own thread and don't use spoiler tags.  :P
Sorry about that!

I just figured that with Star Wars, if you haven't seen those by now you probably wouldn't care about spoilers.  (roll)

I think Penny Arcade summed this kind of stuff up pretty well:
(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/215535297_B2j5j-L-2.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sat 04/01/2020 01:11:35
Actually, I want to see it. But beats me why we haven't seen it yet.
It's on the list, we'll get to it eventually or I'll die before it... either way, rather not read spoilers.  ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 27/01/2020 17:13:12
It grinds my gears that YouTube will happily demonetize videos mentioning swear words or that gay people exist, yet "DIY-hacks" encouraging kids to dye food with bleach or
pour 30 degree melted caramel onto a rotating handmixer gets to remain despite all the reports of the blatant danger in promoting that.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Mon 27/01/2020 18:17:50
Youtube seems to let all child-targeted content remain as long as they possibly can. It took months for them to even admit that those grooming videos were an issue.

I can imagine there is some kind of cancel clique out there though just waiting for swear words to mass report.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/586/905/894.png)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 27/01/2020 22:43:04
Quote from: Jack on Mon 27/01/2020 18:17:50
I can imagine there is some kind of cancel clique out there though just waiting for swear words to mass report.

Or an algorithm.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 28/01/2020 09:41:01
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 27/01/2020 22:43:04
Quote from: Jack on Mon 27/01/2020 18:17:50
I can imagine there is some kind of cancel clique out there though just waiting for swear words to mass report.

Or an algorithm.
Exactly, most millennials couldn't care less if a YouTuber says the F-word, but advertisers are terrified they'd get associated with something that could get the Midwestern US christian moms into a moral panic,
and large media platforms absolutely refuse to take responsibility in a sane way, like say, having living human beings vet videos, and instead use cheap but stupid algorithms to do the job instead.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Tue 28/01/2020 11:42:08
Quote from: Blondbraid on Tue 28/01/2020 09:41:01
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 27/01/2020 22:43:04
Quote from: Jack on Mon 27/01/2020 18:17:50
I can imagine there is some kind of cancel clique out there though just waiting for swear words to mass report.

Or an algorithm.
Exactly, most millennials couldn't care less if a YouTuber says the F-word, but advertisers are terrified they'd get associated with something that could get the Midwestern US christian moms into a moral panic


"Haha look at these silly Americans getting all riled up over (*looks around, whispers*)... the f-word."

Just say FUCK ffs.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 28/01/2020 13:55:13
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Tue 28/01/2020 11:42:08
"Haha look at these silly Americans getting all riled up over (*looks around, whispers*)... the f-word."

Just say FUCK ffs.
Good point, though I was unsure of the forum rules on profanity and felt it was easier than read the entire rules page all over again.  :)

Still, it's insane that the word "fuck" is more likely to get banned than a video instructing kids to soak their food in bleach.

Also, no one should rely on algorithms for content moderation, has anyone else read about the police AI meant to search for images of child abuse but couldn't tell an image of a human body from a picture of a desert (https://gizmodo.com/british-cops-want-to-use-ai-to-spot-porn-but-it-keeps-m-1821384511)?  (wrong)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Tue 28/01/2020 14:24:06
Quote from: Blondbraid on Tue 28/01/2020 13:55:13
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Tue 28/01/2020 11:42:08
"Haha look at these silly Americans getting all riled up over (*looks around, whispers*)... the f-word."

Just say FUCK ffs.
Good point, though I was unsure of the forum rules on profanity and felt it was easier than read the entire rules page all over again.  :)

Still, it's insane that the word "fuck" is more likely to get banned than a video instructing kids to soak their food in bleach.

It is. I'll never understand why USians are so absolutely terrified of swearing. I remember one episode in The Walking Dead in which the gang was captured by a group of cannibals and of course they had no issue showing people eating human limbs, desmembering others, lining them up like cattle and murdering them with a baseball bat, etc etc... but when the Exciting Cliffhanger (tm) came, they had Rick say "they're screwing with the wrong people" instead of "they're fucking with the wrong people". Just... pathetic.


Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Tue 28/01/2020 14:48:20
They did actually film two versions.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Tue 28/01/2020 15:13:59
Quote from: Stupot on Tue 28/01/2020 14:48:20
They did actually film two versions.


I know. That's what makes it even more hilarious / mind-boggling.

"Safe" version: cannibalism, mutilation, murder.
"Mature" version: cannibalism, mutilation, murder, one swear word.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 28/01/2020 16:33:22
Quote from: Blondbraid on Tue 28/01/2020 09:41:01
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 27/01/2020 22:43:04
Quote from: Jack on Mon 27/01/2020 18:17:50
I can imagine there is some kind of cancel clique out there though just waiting for swear words to mass report.

Or an algorithm.
and large media platforms absolutely refuse to take responsibility in a sane way, like say, having living human beings vet videos, and instead use cheap but stupid algorithms to do the job instead.

Imagine how much staff it would take to vet every upload on YouTube, and even then, every video that got flagged by the public. People on the internet, in general, are a large percentage idiots who will just create sock accounts through proxy servers just to take down a video on YouTube that they either do not agree with or they have some personal conflict with the creator.

There is no way to handle the demand except to have A.I. do it. And for now it is being stupid, but it will get smarter and start to understand context eventually.

But YouTube needs massive sponsors to stay afloat like Disney, for example, who will not put their advertising on a video that includes swearing.

Just imagine the cost YouTube pays every day in electricity to feed their servers and in bandwidth to make uploads not take 12 hours like they used to, even when a couple of million people are all uploading at the same time.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 28/01/2020 20:25:30
Mandle: Yeah, that's a decent point, though still, you'd think something making real kids kill themselves (the video I linked to before referenced a news story on a minor who died trying to make a DIY popcorn machine with burning alcohol in it)
should set off some alarms.
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Tue 28/01/2020 15:13:59
I know. That's what makes it even more hilarious / mind-boggling.

"Safe" version: cannibalism, mutilation, murder.
"Mature" version: cannibalism, mutilation, murder, one swear word.


Maybe they go by the logic that no sane person would try murder and cannibalism at home, but if cool people on TV swear kids might start doing that too?

Still dosen't explain why PG-13 movies are allowed to have somebody drop an f-bomb once, but twice makes it an R-rated movie.   :-\
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 29/01/2020 00:20:33
Quote from: Blondbraid on Tue 28/01/2020 20:25:30
Still dosen't explain why PG-13 movies are allowed to have somebody drop an f-bomb once, but twice makes it an R-rated movie.   :-\

And 400 times makes it X-Rated. One of the stupidest rules I have ever heard. The South Park creators obviously thought so too as the South Park movie has 399 hard swear words.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Wed 29/01/2020 07:58:54
Quote from: Mandle on Wed 29/01/2020 00:20:33
Quote from: Blondbraid on Tue 28/01/2020 20:25:30
Still dosen't explain why PG-13 movies are allowed to have somebody drop an f-bomb once, but twice makes it an R-rated movie.   :-\

And 400 times makes it X-Rated. One of the stupidest rules I have ever heard. The South Park creators obviously thought so too as the South Park movie has 399 hard swear words.

Really? So rating is based on the numbers of f-words? It means that even a movie about the Mathama Gandhi sharing peace for the world become a X-rated if a british soldier says "*rap" 400 times?

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Crimson Wizard on Wed 29/01/2020 13:08:11
Quote from: TheFrighter on Wed 29/01/2020 07:58:54
Really? So rating is based on the numbers of f-words? It means that even a movie about the Mathama Gandhi sharing peace for the world become a X-rated if a british soldier says "*rap" 400 times?

Why should it matter what the movie is about? If you make a video with kittens and add lots of swearing on the background, should it be considered okay for small kids to watch?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 29/01/2020 13:46:43
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Wed 29/01/2020 13:08:11
Quote from: TheFrighter on Wed 29/01/2020 07:58:54
Really? So rating is based on the numbers of f-words? It means that even a movie about the Mathama Gandhi sharing peace for the world become a X-rated if a british soldier says "*rap" 400 times?

Why should it matter what the movie is about? If you make a video with kittens and add lots of swearing on the background, should it be considered okay for small kids to watch?
What gets me is that I could understand the logic that a video containing one swear word gets the age rating bumped up on the basis that impressionable kids might learn to swear from watching it,
but bumping up the rating based on the number of swears alone makes no sense.

Compare swearing to literally any other mature content and you see how insane it is. For example, when videos depict fictional people being killed, the age rating goes by how explicit/how much blood is shown, and everyone agrees that it would be be insane to rate Disney's Mulan as a worse movie than Saw just because Mulan depicts an evil army of soldiers being killed by an avalanche mostly off screen, but Saw "only" shows a handful of people getting gorily tortured to death for most of the movie,
yet this exact logic is applied to swear words in US movies.

Like, The King's Speech is a heartwarming tale of a man overcoming his stuttering and had no sex, drugs or violence to speak of at all, yet it got rated as an adults only movie in the US because of this scene (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJvGE7Vvd4M).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: VampireWombat on Wed 29/01/2020 14:26:12
The thing is that the ratings for movies in the US isn't standardized. There are some rough guidelines, but at the end of the day the rating depends on what a select group of people think. So, movie ratings are less a reflection of how Americans feel, but more how a small group of Americans feel.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 29/01/2020 15:29:40
Quote from: VampireWombat on Wed 29/01/2020 14:26:12
The thing is that the ratings for movies in the US isn't standardized. There are some rough guidelines, but at the end of the day the rating depends on what a select group of people think. So, movie ratings are less a reflection of how Americans feel, but more how a small group of Americans feel.

Yes, exactly. The people who make the movie put in months of their lives to work on it and then sit twiddling their thumbs nervously waiting for the rating to come back. And half the time it makes no sense.

I believe it was Mortal Kombat that had to remove one sound effect of "bones breaking" during a neck-twisting move to avoid an R-rating. Well, Mortal Kombat probably should not have been a PG-13 movie anyway, but it is a pretty damn good movie and reached the audience of the kids who were playing the game in arcades at the time. So, anyway, what was I saying?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 29/01/2020 15:41:43
Quote from: VampireWombat on Wed 29/01/2020 14:26:12
The thing is that the ratings for movies in the US isn't standardized. There are some rough guidelines, but at the end of the day the rating depends on what a select group of people think. So, movie ratings are less a reflection of how Americans feel, but more how a small group of Americans feel.
I remember seeing a dive into just how weird the US rating system was in This movie is not yet rated, yet while it showed it was some pretty randomly selected and biased little group of middle-aged conservative Christians rating all major movies, they were still human beings and you'd expect them to follow some kind of human logic, but I still can't say that I can see human logic in judging the severity of a movie based on the number of swears rather than the context of them.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Wed 29/01/2020 18:28:35

By the way, how rating works for AGS games?

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Matti on Wed 29/01/2020 18:33:10
Quote from: TheFrighter on Wed 29/01/2020 18:28:35
By the way, how rating works for AGS games?

The people who make the game put in months of their lives to work on it and then sit twiddling their thumbs nervously waiting for the rating to come back
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Creamy on Wed 29/01/2020 22:55:33
QuoteExactly, most millennials couldn't care less if a YouTuber says the F-word, but advertisers are terrified they'd get associated with something that could get the Midwestern US christian moms into a moral panic

Sometimes, the creators themselves resort to self-censorship out of fear.

Apparently, that's what's happening with Commandos 2 HD remastered. I find it sad when a company claiming to make a game set in World War II (https://store.steampowered.com/app/1100410/Commandos_2__HD_Remaster/) decides to remove any symbols, portraits, speeches or other assets that could break the law in many countries (https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2020/01/24/commando-2-hd-remaster-will-contain-no-nazi-symbols/) - namely anything that connects it to reality.

Since no law could force them to remove the japanese flags, they seem to be more royalist than the king.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 30/01/2020 00:08:20
Quote from: Creamy on Wed 29/01/2020 22:55:33
QuoteExactly, most millennials couldn't care less if a YouTuber says the F-word, but advertisers are terrified they'd get associated with something that could get the Midwestern US christian moms into a moral panic

Sometimes, the creators themselves resort to self-censorship out of fear.

Apparently, that's what's happening with Commandos 2 HD remastered. I find it sad when a company claiming to make a game set in World War II (https://store.steampowered.com/app/1100410/Commandos_2__HD_Remaster/) decides to remove any symbols, portraits, speeches or other assets that could break the law in many countries (https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2020/01/24/commando-2-hd-remaster-will-contain-no-nazi-symbols/) - namely anything that connects it to reality.

Since no law could force them to remove the japanese flags, they seem to be more royalist than the king.


The no swastikas in WW2 games thing is due to the law not keeping up with the times and recognizing video games as an art form, and at least in Germany, those laws were made decades ago where games were seen by the public as kid's toys rather than mass media equal to books and films, but there has been a few recent games where nazi symbols were allowed in Germany, so things seems to be changing in that regard. (https://time.com/5364254/germany-nazi-symbols-video-games-history/) As for bans on nazi symbols on stuff like toys and merchandise, I think Germany is right on banning such symbols there, and far as I know, they're still way more lenient on swearing and sexual content in their films and TV-series than the US has ever been.

I also think calling this case self-censorship is kind of pushing it, since having played the non-hd Commandos 2 for over 80 hours according to Steam, at no point did I feel like the swastikas were a big part of the game aesthetic or environment and the game barely touches on any of the politics behind the war at all, compared to say, the new Wolfenstein trilogy or the latest Call of Duty, and removing them doesn't sound like a huge artistic compromise. It just feels like a form of cultural pandering similar to fantasy games removing skeletons in the Chinese versions in order to sell more copies in a country where skeletons are associated to strong negative superstitions.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 30/01/2020 13:38:18
What I'll never understand is how Watership Down is rated U in Britain and a mere PG in America.
I've watched horror films that were less violent.   :-\

And speaking of Americans and their fear of cursing. Why do they worship the word "cunt" as though it's some sort of messiah of all swear words?
Here in Britain, "cunt" is no different than saying "dick" or "git". And one of those words is so well accepted in American culture, that they named a well-known website after it.  (laugh)

And what is inherently wrong with swearing anyway?
The only reason I have ever been able to figure out as to why we make certain words taboo, is so then we actually have strong words to say when we get really annoyed. If everyone says it all of the time, then it loses its punch.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 06/02/2020 14:02:43
The movie "Crawl" REALLY ground my gears.

Especially because it has an 83% critics rating and 75% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes...

Here is what I wrote on their audience critic section (SPOILERS)

Spoiler
Now, I realize movies aren't supposed to be 100% realistic, but when I see someone chomped on by gators, on arms and legs, shoulder and torso, like 5 times but they can still swim and move at full speed, without any broken bones, nerve damage, torn muscles, or just body parts freezing up from the shock of the injuries, I just have to assume that their skeleton is made of adamantium and their wounds heal about as fast as Wolverine's do too.
At this point I know they are going to be just fine no matter what happens to them and all suspense is lost.
Which is a shame, because I really cared about the two characters at first, but once I realized they were indestructible, that all went out the window.
Movie, less is more.
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 10/02/2020 12:16:20
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 06/02/2020 14:02:43
The movie "Crawl" REALLY ground my gears.

Especially because it has an 83% critics rating and 75% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes...

Here is what I wrote on their audience critic section (SPOILERS)

Spoiler
Now, I realize movies aren't supposed to be 100% realistic, but when I see someone chomped on by gators, on arms and legs, shoulder and torso, like 5 times but they can still swim and move at full speed, without any broken bones, nerve damage, torn muscles, or just body parts freezing up from the shock of the injuries, I just have to assume that their skeleton is made of adamantium and their wounds heal about as fast as Wolverine's do too.
At this point I know they are going to be just fine no matter what happens to them and all suspense is lost.
Which is a shame, because I really cared about the two characters at first, but once I realized they were indestructible, that all went out the window.
Movie, less is more.
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Spoiler
Holy crap! Was that guy Jason Voorhees?
I don't expect a movie to be realistic, but there are limits, especially when it comes down to what the main characters can survive.  8-0
(Unless it's done for comical effect of course.)
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Mon 10/02/2020 12:42:09
Quote from: Danvzare on Mon 10/02/2020 12:16:20
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 06/02/2020 14:02:43
The movie "Crawl" REALLY ground my gears.

Especially because it has an 83% critics rating and 75% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes...

Here is what I wrote on their audience critic section (SPOILERS)
It
Spoiler
Now, I realize movies aren't supposed to be 100% realistic, but when I see someone chomped on by gators, on arms and legs, shoulder and torso, like 5 times but they can still swim and move at full speed, without any broken bones, nerve damage, torn muscles, or just body parts freezing up from the shock of the injuries, I just have to assume that their skeleton is made of adamantium and their wounds heal about as fast as Wolverine's do too.
At this point I know they are going to be just fine no matter what happens to them and all suspense is lost.
Which is a shame, because I really cared about the two characters at first, but once I realized they were indestructible, that all went out the window.
Movie, less is more.
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Spoiler
Holy crap! Was that guy Jason Voorhees?
I don't expect a movie to be realistic, but there are limits, especially when it comes down to what the main characters can survive.  8-0
(Unless it's done for comical effect of course.)
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Yeah. Sometimes they really test the limits of suspension of disbelief.

I mean I love The X-Files more than anyone I know... but one thing ground my gears...
Spoiler
https://youtu.be/DuLVzKSxj_Q
https://youtu.be/cfapO4nluNw
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 10/02/2020 13:58:46
Well,
Spoiler
it was hinted at a few times that cancer man had augmented himself with alien DNA to be a "fast healer", so I can forgive that. He is Wolverine.

What I cannot forgive is the final hug between Mulder and Scully when they don't know what happened to Skinner yet. Professional agents would run off immediately to assist their fallen team-mate, but they were both just "Yeah, screw that, let's exit on a touching moment for the viewers."

And they even KNEW he was being shot at because Mulder pointed out that Skinner was in danger when he heard the shots.
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Matti on Tue 11/02/2020 13:31:44
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 10/02/2020 13:58:46
Well,
Spoiler
it was hinted at a few times that cancer man had augmented himself with alien DNA to be a "fast healer", so I can forgive that. He is Wolverine.
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Spoiler
He got a missile shot in his face! With all his body parts lying around he must be a "fast healer" like the T-1000, not Wolverine.
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 11/02/2020 14:25:37
Quote from: Matti on Tue 11/02/2020 13:31:44
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 10/02/2020 13:58:46
Well,
Spoiler
it was hinted at a few times that cancer man had augmented himself with alien DNA to be a "fast healer", so I can forgive that. He is Wolverine.
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Spoiler
He got a missile shot in his face! With all his body parts lying around he must be a "fast healer" like the T-1000, not Wolverine.
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Spoiler
We only saw his skin peeling off, not his body parts blowing apart.
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Wed 04/03/2020 07:54:42
(https://i.imgur.com/AK4Wve5.jpg)

So *I* am supposed give *you* money for the privilege of testing your game so you can save yourself the cost of hiring beta testers? Did you go to the Tom Sawyer Business School?

Am I the only one who finds this mind-boggling (and gear-grinding)?

(Disclaimer: I don't think the dev in question is identifiable from this, but in any case this is meant to be an example of a tendency I'm seeing all over the place, and not me pointing my finger at any specific individual. In fact I actually like their games a lot.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: lorenzo on Wed 04/03/2020 13:02:03
Haha, I agree.
It reminds me of those great offers: "Pre-order our game now at a higher price and before the reviews are out to access the beta, and beta-test the game for us! What a bargain!"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Wed 04/03/2020 13:53:30
Quote from: lorenzo on Wed 04/03/2020 13:02:03
Haha, I agree.
It reminds me of those great offers: "Pre-order our game now at a higher price and before the reviews are out to access the beta, and beta-test the game for us! What a bargain!"

Haha yeah, it's the reason I haven't jumped on the early access for Curse of the Dead Gods, as amazing as it looks. Besides not wanting to pay to work as a beta tester like we've already mentioned, what's the point of playing an incomplete game for, say, a year, so that when the whole thing comes out you're already bored of it? If it was free then I'd certainly consider it, but not for 15â,¬ lol
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 04/03/2020 21:53:25
This would only really grind my gears if I was being forced to buy the game in this way or I could never play it.

While I would never pay to play an incomplete/buggy game, there are tons of people who will it seems. If that helps finance some games through to the end then we get more games and I'm fine with that.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Wed 04/03/2020 22:51:16
This seems to offer the chance of affecting the game's content.

I can imagine some games that would be so highly anticipated that this would seem like a good opportunity. But for the average crowdfunded game, neh.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 05/03/2020 13:22:56
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Wed 04/03/2020 07:54:42
So *I* am supposed give *you* money for the privilege of testing your game so you can save yourself the cost of hiring beta testers? Did you go to the Tom Sawyer Business School?

Am I the only one who finds this mind-boggling (and gear-grinding)?

(Disclaimer: I don't think the dev in question is identifiable from this, but in any case this is meant to be an example of a tendency I'm seeing all over the place, and not me pointing my finger at any specific individual. In fact I actually like their games a lot.)

Well in their defence, they probably need the money just to be able to complete the game, and probably don't have anything spare to hire proper beta testers.
Besides, if it's a game you're really looking forward to, and you're going to buy it anyway, wouldn't you want to help in its creation?
Of course it depends on the game, but still.

It's when big budget AAA titles do it, that it really grinds my gears. And the problem is, all big budget AAA titles seem to do it nowadays, and everyone considers it the norm! As a matter of fact, I've had people call me out for being the weird one when I complain about it!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Thu 05/03/2020 14:15:33
That is the weirdest thing, to be honest. I often offer to Beta test if I have the time free, both for free and commercial games. I consider my "pay" the knowing that I helped making a game better and with less bugs, and if it's a commercial game, then I got to play a game I would likely not play, since in my current financial situation I can't afford the money.
But paying to be a beta tester?  8-0  8-0  8-0  8-0  8-0 (but hey, if there are people willing to do that, then by all means, why not? there's a sucker born every minute, they say...)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Thu 05/03/2020 14:16:41
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 05/03/2020 13:22:56
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Wed 04/03/2020 07:54:42
So *I* am supposed give *you* money for the privilege of testing your game so you can save yourself the cost of hiring beta testers? Did you go to the Tom Sawyer Business School?

Am I the only one who finds this mind-boggling (and gear-grinding)?

(Disclaimer: I don't think the dev in question is identifiable from this, but in any case this is meant to be an example of a tendency I'm seeing all over the place, and not me pointing my finger at any specific individual. In fact I actually like their games a lot.)

Well in their defence, they probably need the money just to be able to complete the game, and probably don't have anything spare to hire proper beta testers.

Then offer some actual reward to backers, which is kind of the point of Kickstarter and Patreon, and with that money, hire beta testers. Simple. But don't make them pay for the "privilege" jfc.

Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 05/03/2020 13:22:56Besides, if it's a game you're really looking forward to, and you're going to buy it anyway, wouldn't you want to help in its creation?

Um no? "Help in its creation" is a sneaky way to say "work on the game", and if you work on the game, you're part of the team and if you're part of the team, you should be paid as such ¯\_(ãƒ,,)_/¯ Taking advantage of fans' enthusiasm is at the very least ethically suspect from my point of view.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Thu 05/03/2020 14:18:46
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Thu 05/03/2020 14:15:33
That is the weirdest thing, to be honest. I often offer to Beta test if I have the time free, both for free and commercial games. I consider my "pay" the knowing that I helped making a game better and with less bugs, and if it's a commercial game, then I got to play a game I would likely not play, since in my current financial situation I can't afford the money.
But paying to be a beta tester?  8-0  8-0  8-0  8-0  8-0

Exactly! If you want to do it because it's your thing and you enjoy it and you get satisfaction (and maybe a game!) from it, all the more power to you! It's the "paying" part that's, to quote, 8-0  8-0  8-0  8-0  8-0 XD
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 06/03/2020 06:24:31
People who think that just because something is designed or marketed for a certain purpose, you only use that thing for that purpose. No where is this more apparent than Japan (don't get me started on umbrellas - yes, there is a tiny drop of rain and yes, umbrellas are for rain, but you don't all have to all open your massive two-man umbrellas in an already crowded street just to get from the station to the coffee shop 10 metres away!!!).

What's ground my gears today was going into the drugstore and seeing the totally empty handsoap shelf and then looking at the perfectly healthily-stocked shelf next to it on which is an abundance of body soap.

IT'S THE SAME STUFF!!! If people are so desperate, why isn't the other soap also sold out? Just buy the body soap and fill up a hand-soap dispenser with it.  I promise you won't go to hell for it. That's exactly what I'll do if I can't get hold of any more hand soap when we run out. Now again, I'm sure the chemical make-up of body soap is slightly different from actual hand soap and it's not exactly the same stuff, but basically the main difference is the noun on the bottle. It's not going to burn your hands off.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Fri 06/03/2020 07:36:03
Quote from: Stupot on Fri 06/03/2020 06:24:31
IT'S THE SAME STUFF!!! If people are so desperate, why isn't the other soap also sold out?

The answer might be extremely shocking to some, so I'm going to put it under a spoiler tag:

Spoiler
People are incredibly fucking stupid.
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 08/03/2020 16:59:05
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Thu 05/03/2020 14:16:41
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 05/03/2020 13:22:56
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Wed 04/03/2020 07:54:42
So *I* am supposed give *you* money for the privilege of testing your game so you can save yourself the cost of hiring beta testers? Did you go to the Tom Sawyer Business School?

Am I the only one who finds this mind-boggling (and gear-grinding)?

(Disclaimer: I don't think the dev in question is identifiable from this, but in any case this is meant to be an example of a tendency I'm seeing all over the place, and not me pointing my finger at any specific individual. In fact I actually like their games a lot.)

Well in their defence, they probably need the money just to be able to complete the game, and probably don't have anything spare to hire proper beta testers.

Then offer some actual reward to backers, which is kind of the point of Kickstarter and Patreon, and with that money, hire beta testers. Simple. But don't make them pay for the "privilege" jfc.
But the ability to play the game or games early IS the reward. I know it's hard to believe, but a lot of people for some weird reason, like to play games early (even though they're incomplete buggy messes).
Now I'm not one of those people. I like finished working games. But even I'm able to understand the very simple concept that that there are a lot of people that like playing games they're looking forward to, as early as possible.
The thing is, if you're playing a game early, you're technically a beta tester. There's no way around that. That's the entire concept behind early access, and is one of the reasons why Minecraft became as successful as it did! (I still remember a Dwarf Fortress thread where people were complaining about this new "early access" thing that an increasingly popular indie game called "Minecraft" was doing, and why it was so stupid. Little did they know everyone would start doing it.)

Ok, assuming you somehow still don't understand the concept. Let me reframe it, so maybe you can.
Let's say you have a Patreon. Ok. And you get demands that some people want a reward of having early access to an incomplete buggy version of the game. (I'm not saying that this has happened for the guy in the example you gave, but I'm sure it's happened for someone.)
Would you do it?
If you do, you're technically making them into beta testers that are paying you for the privilege to be beta testers? (The thing that grinds your gears.)
If you don't, you're not giving your patreons a reward that they're actually asking for, and you may be losing out on some extra cash flow as a result.

Now it's not that I don't agree with you. Paying for the privilege to beta test someone's game is dumb.
But people like playing games early. And while I don't agree with those people, I can at least understand that concept. So why can't you?

Now I know we're talking about Patreon, which means people aren't just paying for the privilege of being beta testers. They're paying continually for that privilege. Which let's face it, is pretty damn stupid. But even then, what I've said still kinda applies.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Sun 08/03/2020 18:31:17
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 08/03/2020 16:59:05
Ok, assuming you somehow still don't understand the concept. Let me reframe it, so maybe you can.

I stopped reading right here and I don't care what comes afterwards. Next time you might want to keep the condescendence in check if you want people to care about anything you might have to say.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sun 08/03/2020 19:23:37
You have to ask how many of those backers/subscribers actually end up helping with testing and how many just wanted to see an early version of the game because it makes them feel special.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 09/03/2020 12:44:39
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Sun 08/03/2020 18:31:17
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 08/03/2020 16:59:05
Ok, assuming you somehow still don't understand the concept. Let me reframe it, so maybe you can.

I stopped reading right here and I don't care what comes afterwards. Next time you might want to keep the condescendence in check if you want people to care about anything you might have to say.

Sorry about that.
It's not much of an excuse, but you annoyed me with how you completely glossed over the point I was trying to make earlier, because it seemed like you didn't understand something that seemed obvious to me. So I over explained it as a result.
As for what came after that part you stopped reading. It was exactly the same as before. Just repeated three times in different words. So there was no reason to read it if you already understood what I meant in that first paragraph, which I think you did.  :-D

Also, just so you know (because you skipped it), I agreed with you.

Quote from: Stupot on Sun 08/03/2020 19:23:37
You have to ask how many of those backers/subscribers actually end up helping with testing and how many just wanted to see an early version of the game because it makes them feel special.
That's a very good question.
I guess you could include the stipulation that "I'll ignore any bugs you point out, so you're not technically beta testers!" but that would just be stupid.
I get the feeling that most people won't actually help with the testing. Other than pointing out some game breaking bugs, I suspect everyone will just play it once, then forget about it. But I've been wrong about these kinds of things before. So only the people who does this kind of thing can actually answer that question.

In my opinion, it's a bit of a nuanced subject. I've seen some people offer a free trimmed-down early access version, usually with less content or crappier graphics. So you aren't paying to beta-test, as that's free. You're just paying for an early version. That is the only time I can say that early access isn't synonymous with paying for the privilege to beta test. But it's hardly applicable for most games.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 09/03/2020 14:43:18
Panic-buying really grinds my gears... People should NOT be going out and hoarding shit they are not going to use within the year. Other people need that stuff too.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Retro Wolf on Mon 09/03/2020 16:57:32
I think there are exceptions, there are good early access games, such as Factorio. I did buy it a few years into the early access, I'd read good things about it and I personally had a complete experience from it. Never felt like a beta tester for that particular game.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Mon 09/03/2020 17:24:53
Isn't this more like a "I want to be first to have it" thing? Like those people who queue at night in front of a store just to be the first to buy the new gadget xyz as soon as it comes out?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Fri 13/03/2020 18:24:48
What is this thing about toilet paper? People go crazy about buying it now. Yesterday two people before and after me at the checkout bought huge amounts of it, so I asked if it is on sale but seems they were just panicking. Today it is not available at supermarkets anymore because of crazy people. It is a running gag in web forums already.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 13/03/2020 18:34:42
Yes, over here as well. Crazy people, one would think they are planning to be home sick with exploding diarrhea for a month... or a year even...   8-0
I don't get it either. We do miss a single pack of toilet paper though, one of the toilets only has one roll left... but we still have half a pack on the other... And so what if it runs out? We won't die because we don't have it... there's always other alternatives.  (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Fri 13/03/2020 19:20:30
It's for the shit hitting the fan. ;)

Quote from: Mandle on Mon 09/03/2020 14:43:18
Panic-buying really grinds my gears... People should NOT be going out and hoarding shit they are not going to use within the year. Other people need that stuff too.

Wipe with your hand. And behold the power of this FULLY OPERATIONAL toilet paper fort!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sat 14/03/2020 00:06:02
The toilet roll thing is absolutely ridiculous. Why specifically that? It’s an interesting phenomenon really. There’s probably some weird psychology behind it. My worry is that, if this is how people are behaving when the virus is only just starting to get going, what is it going to be like when the shit, indeed, does hit the fan?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sat 14/03/2020 00:22:10
I think we are observing a previously unknown bit of belief present in a part of the population. Did all these people see TP as some kind of currency all along?

Would explain why the federal reserve has been running their printing presses 24/7 lately, to try and keep up with demand.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sat 14/03/2020 00:30:46
This TP hoarding started in Japan as a hoax. People had flashbacks of the “oil shock” of the 1970s when people also hoarded TP. And people just seem to enjoy doing whatever it is that other people are doing. But the real kicker is that most people in Japan have “washlets” built into the toilet units that wash their bums anyway. You don’t even need TP (except maybe a bit to dry it up, but you could easily use a towel if you were running low). Seriously illogical behaviour.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Sat 14/03/2020 03:10:09
On the Japan tangent, I remember in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear disaster, people in Mainland China started spreading the rumour that salt would be radioactively affected. Many people, including family friends, started stockpiling table salt. It was only recently our family friends ate through their last bag of salt. (laugh) At the time of the disaster it was irritating though, because table salt in general was hard to find for a few weeks. I mean, you could get it, but you had to visit two, three, four supermarkets to find it.  (wtf)

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Sat 14/03/2020 09:37:52
Quote from: Stupot on Sat 14/03/2020 00:06:02
The toilet roll thing is absolutely ridiculous. Why specifically that? It’s an interesting phenomenon really. There’s probably some weird psychology behind it. My worry is that, if this is how people are behaving when the virus is only just starting to get going, what is it going to be like when the shit, indeed, does hit the fan?

People are hoarding all kinds of stuff: toilet paper, yes, but also frozen food, canned goods, desinfectant, etc. It's just that toilet paper makes for the most "omg wtf" headlines.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Sat 14/03/2020 09:41:54
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Sat 14/03/2020 09:37:52
Quote from: Stupot on Sat 14/03/2020 00:06:02
The toilet roll thing is absolutely ridiculous. Why specifically that? It’s an interesting phenomenon really. There’s probably some weird psychology behind it. My worry is that, if this is how people are behaving when the virus is only just starting to get going, what is it going to be like when the shit, indeed, does hit the fan?

People are hoarding all kinds of stuff: toilet paper, yes, but also frozen food, canned goods, desinfectant, etc. It's just that toilet paper makes for the most "omg wtf" headlines.
Sudden rush to buy things and chaos... That's part of the plan ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Sat 14/03/2020 10:03:45
Quote from: Slasher on Sat 14/03/2020 09:41:54
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Sat 14/03/2020 09:37:52
Quote from: Stupot on Sat 14/03/2020 00:06:02
The toilet roll thing is absolutely ridiculous. Why specifically that? It’s an interesting phenomenon really. There’s probably some weird psychology behind it. My worry is that, if this is how people are behaving when the virus is only just starting to get going, what is it going to be like when the shit, indeed, does hit the fan?

People are hoarding all kinds of stuff: toilet paper, yes, but also frozen food, canned goods, desinfectant, etc. It's just that toilet paper makes for the most "omg wtf" headlines.
Sudden rush to buy things and chaos... That's part of the plan ;)

I think you dropped this

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sat 18/04/2020 01:07:47
Here's something from February that warms the heart, to 38 degrees Celsius.



It's ironic, given what happened to Nigerians in China recently.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Sat 18/04/2020 11:03:41
Is that Italy? What happened to social distancing? Why are all those people hugging?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 18/04/2020 12:16:11
Quote from: Babar on Sat 18/04/2020 11:03:41
Is that Italy? What happened to social distancing? Why are all those people hugging?

It's from February.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sat 18/04/2020 13:29:37
Here's something that grinds my gears.
Very high-pitched devices, used for scaring away cats or sometimes used in shops to "detract" youths.
Because I can hear those things, and they're nauseating!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Racoon on Sat 18/04/2020 15:08:31
Quote from: Danvzare on Sat 18/04/2020 13:29:37
Here's something that grinds my gears.
Very high-pitched devices, used for scaring away cats or sometimes used in shops to "detract" youths.
Because I can hear those things, and they're nauseating!

Ohhh yes! I can relate so much  :-D Our neighboor has one of these torture devices and I get the feeling that cats don´t care about it at all. But I care! It has become a running gag in our family since we tried to talk to him about it and he said he can not hear it, so we shouldn´t too. He even upgraded it to something that makes a bright light when you get to close, but he had to take that down, because we were not the only ones bothered by it..
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sat 18/04/2020 15:13:15
Quote from: Danvzare on Sat 18/04/2020 13:29:37
Here's something that grinds my gears.
Very high-pitched devices, used for scaring away cats or sometimes used in shops to "detract" youths.
Because I can hear those things, and they're nauseating!

What do they sound like?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Sat 18/04/2020 15:45:04
Quote from: Racoon on Sat 18/04/2020 15:08:31
Quote from: Danvzare on Sat 18/04/2020 13:29:37
Here's something that grinds my gears.
Very high-pitched devices, used for scaring away cats or sometimes used in shops to "detract" youths.
Because I can hear those things, and they're nauseating!

Ohhh yes! I can relate so much  :-D Our neighboor has one of these torture devices and I get the feeling that cats don´t care about it at all. But I care! It has become a running gag in our family since we tried to talk to him about it and he said he can not hear it, so we shouldn´t too. He even upgraded it to something that makes a bright light when you get to close, but he had to take that down, because we were not the only ones bothered by it..

Jesus, how many unwanted cats do you guys have running around your area? I've never heard of these devices.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Racoon on Sat 18/04/2020 16:04:55
Quote from: Jack on Sat 18/04/2020 15:13:15
What do they sound like?

A very high beep sound. There are frequencies that younger people hear, but older don´t. And I think the same are used to scare of cats.

Quote from: manannan on Sat 18/04/2020 15:45:04
Jesus, how many unwanted cats do you guys have running around your area? I've never heard of these devices.

The rigth question would be: How many strange neighboors are out there?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 19/04/2020 08:59:56
Quote from: Jack on Sat 18/04/2020 15:13:15
Quote from: Danvzare on Sat 18/04/2020 13:29:37
Here's something that grinds my gears.
Very high-pitched devices, used for scaring away cats or sometimes used in shops to "detract" youths.
Because I can hear those things, and they're nauseating!

What do they sound like?
Have you ever heard the high pitched squealing of an old tube television?
Just make it twenty times louder and have it rapidly turn on and off.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Sun 19/04/2020 14:05:12
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 19/04/2020 08:59:56
Quote from: Jack on Sat 18/04/2020 15:13:15
Quote from: Danvzare on Sat 18/04/2020 13:29:37
Here's something that grinds my gears.
Very high-pitched devices, used for scaring away cats or sometimes used in shops to "detract" youths.
Because I can hear those things, and they're nauseating!

What do they sound like?
Have you ever heard the high pitched squealing of an old tube television?
Just make it twenty times louder and have it rapidly turn on and off.

How could these not violate noise laws? That's crazy. I hope I never live around anyone with such little consideration for others.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sun 19/04/2020 22:09:32
Quote from: manannan on Sun 19/04/2020 14:05:12
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 19/04/2020 08:59:56
Quote from: Jack on Sat 18/04/2020 15:13:15
Quote from: Danvzare on Sat 18/04/2020 13:29:37
Here's something that grinds my gears.
Very high-pitched devices, used for scaring away cats or sometimes used in shops to "detract" youths.
Because I can hear those things, and they're nauseating!

What do they sound like?
Have you ever heard the high pitched squealing of an old tube television?
Just make it twenty times louder and have it rapidly turn on and off.

How could these not violate noise laws? That's crazy. I hope I never live around anyone with such little consideration for others.
Exactly, plus that's gotta violate age-based discrimination laws.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 20/04/2020 20:33:23
Quote from: manannan on Sun 19/04/2020 14:05:12
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 19/04/2020 08:59:56
Have you ever heard the high pitched squealing of an old tube television?
Just make it twenty times louder and have it rapidly turn on and off.

How could these not violate noise laws? That's crazy. I hope I never live around anyone with such little consideration for others.
Easy. The majority of people don't hear it, so it doesn't violate any noise laws.

Quote from: Blondbraid on Sun 19/04/2020 22:09:32
Exactly, plus that's gotta violate age-based discrimination laws.
I hope so. But I'm not sure if there are any such laws in my country.  ???
Then again, I'm no lawyer.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 20/04/2020 23:31:41
Quote from: Danvzare on Mon 20/04/2020 20:33:23
Easy. The majority of people don't hear it, so it doesn't violate any noise laws.

Hmmmm, I wonder if that's how it works. The majority of people don't have handicapped allowances but we still have handicapped parking spaces enforced by law.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Reiter on Tue 21/04/2020 00:45:59
I am rather convinced that it is simply a legislative gap. The manufacturers of those wretched things must have found it, and decided to make the most of it, while it lasts. It is terribly stupid, and I would delight in kicking them over if I found any. I dare say hardly anyone can see micro-waves, so why, I ask you, lawyer from Racket-o-Matic Ltd., why cannot I use them to discourage burglars?

My own gear-grinding annecdote, meanwhile, is similar if opposite.

Now, a while ago, I was at a burial. It was quite alright, truly, gently reassuring as they are meant to be. However, I noticed that as it was time to toll the bells, they sounded rather tinny and muffled. It emerged that it was not the bells at all, but a recording, fed through the PA speakers. It was very vexing.
It emerged, however, that the church had been the recipient of quite a few noise complaints, on account of the bells. The bells! And they were thus rather limited as to when they could ring them. I am not particularly difficult about noise, ordinarily. Life is inescapably noisy, and it is reasonable to long for some peace and quiet. But this made me quite wild to hear.
Who are these utter dimplecups, I wonder, that move into a nice (and up-market, lest we forget) house right next to a church when they cannot abide the sound of bells? It is not as if it was a difficult building to spot, crouched between a hedge and a gas holder. They cannot possibly have missed it, if they have ever been in the area before they bought the house. It is not some little secret the estate agent can keep under wraps until it is too late. It stands radiant on the landscape, and what is more, I very much doubt it is tolling day and night. I simply cannot see the disruption, or the nerve to shut up a service you have decided to live next doors to.

I wonder sometimes if the neighbours are, in fact, trolls and giants that have come down the hills and moved into town. After buying the houses, there was evidently gold left for a good lawyer...

And I shall bet that these same dimplecups would merrily install those blasted high-pitch screamers if they had half a chance, too.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Tue 21/04/2020 03:04:29
I was with a mate of mine, a few years younger, walking around Ginza. We had to move several times because he kept hearing this highly-pitched noise that the rest of us couldn’t hear. I think officially they’re to deter rats but I’ve since heard that they also stop groups of teens hanging around in front of the upmarket shops.

I’ve also heard that they sometimes play a mosquito noise to stop homeless people sleeping in doorways, but I don’t know how true that is.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Tue 21/04/2020 03:57:10
Quote from: Stupot on Tue 21/04/2020 03:04:29
I was with a mate of mine, a few years younger, walking around Ginza. We had to move several times because he kept hearing this highly-pitched noise that the rest of us couldn’t hear. I think officially they’re to deter rats but I’ve since heard that they also stop groups of teens hanging around in front of the upmarket shops.

I’ve also heard that they sometimes play a mosquito noise to stop homeless people sleeping in doorways, but I don’t know how true that is.

Related but unrelated ~ I thought this was a cool article about Japanese use of gestures and sounds to enhance the safety records of rail lines: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/pointing-and-calling-japan-trains (https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/pointing-and-calling-japan-trains)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 21/04/2020 04:50:48
Yes, the train drivers here in Japan always make those pointing gestures and I always figured it was a ritual they did to be sure they were taking every step correctly, but good to have it confirmed.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Tue 21/04/2020 14:32:07
Quote from: Reiter on Tue 21/04/2020 00:45:59
I am rather convinced that it is simply a legislative gap. The manufacturers of those wretched things must have found it, and decided to make the most of it, while it lasts. It is terribly stupid, and I would delight in kicking them over if I found any. I dare say hardly anyone can see micro-waves, so why, I ask you, lawyer from Racket-o-Matic Ltd., why cannot I use them to discourage burglars?

My own gear-grinding annecdote, meanwhile, is similar if opposite.

Now, a while ago, I was at a burial. It was quite alright, truly, gently reassuring as they are meant to be. However, I noticed that as it was time to toll the bells, they sounded rather tinny and muffled. It emerged that it was not the bells at all, but a recording, fed through the PA speakers. It was very vexing.
It emerged, however, that the church had been the recipient of quite a few noise complaints, on account of the bells. The bells! And they were thus rather limited as to when they could ring them. I am not particularly difficult about noise, ordinarily. Life is inescapably noisy, and it is reasonable to long for some peace and quiet. But this made me quite wild to hear.
Who are these utter dimplecups, I wonder, that move into a nice (and up-market, lest we forget) house right next to a church when they cannot abide the sound of bells? It is not as if it was a difficult building to spot, crouched between a hedge and a gas holder. They cannot possibly have missed it, if they have ever been in the area before they bought the house. It is not some little secret the estate agent can keep under wraps until it is too late. It stands radiant on the landscape, and what is more, I very much doubt it is tolling day and night. I simply cannot see the disruption, or the nerve to shut up a service you have decided to live next doors to.

I wonder sometimes if the neighbours are, in fact, trolls and giants that have come down the hills and moved into town. After buying the houses, there was evidently gold left for a good lawyer...

And I shall bet that these same dimplecups would merrily install those blasted high-pitch screamers if they had half a chance, too.
I wonder what they do on Sunday mass...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Reiter on Tue 21/04/2020 18:46:42
Quote from: Babar on Tue 21/04/2020 14:32:07
I wonder what they do on Sunday mass...

I am unsure. I believe that they are (gracefully, no doubt) allowed to toll the bells on Sunday for mass, or at least during a few special days in the year. I do see the annoyance of hearing tolling bells if you are recovering from a drunken Saturday, but once more, they decided to live neighbours with the thing. What in the world did they expect?

As for the mosquito-playing doorways, I cannot think of anything more pointlessly vexing. I would like to march around that street with a barrel full of free ear-muffs.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Sun 10/05/2020 10:42:10
Throw pillows. Useless junk that make it impossible to actually use a bed or sofa for its intended purpose. The best you can do is just move them off whenever the furniture is in use, either taking up storage space somewhere or making a pile on a chair, or dropped on the floor (tracking dirt back into the bed/sofa when they're put back). They are the coronavirus of home decoration. If I see that someone has a bunch of throw pillows in their house, it instantly makes me think less of them.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Hobo on Sun 10/05/2020 11:05:44
Quote from: Snarky on Sun 10/05/2020 10:42:10
Throw pillows.
Ah, yes, the sofa parasites.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 10/05/2020 14:42:33
Quote from: Snarky on Sun 10/05/2020 10:42:10
Throw pillows.

Good advice!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 10/05/2020 21:51:17
Quote from: Mandle on Sun 10/05/2020 14:42:33
Quote from: Snarky on Sun 10/05/2020 10:42:10
Throw pillows.

Good advice!

I gave it a try last night before bed. The wife wasn't too happy, what with pillows flying everywhere, but it really helped relieve some stress over all the things that have been grinding my gears lately.

Best advice so far in this thread for how to deal with such issues.

As an experiment, tonight I am going to try punching the pillows instead to avoid the cleanup afterwards. Will report any further progress...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 11/05/2020 12:11:01
Quote from: Snarky on Sun 10/05/2020 10:42:10
Throw pillows. Useless junk that make it impossible to actually use a bed or sofa for its intended purpose. The best you can do is just move them off whenever the furniture is in use, either taking up storage space somewhere or making a pile on a chair, or dropped on the floor (tracking dirt back into the bed/sofa when they're put back). They are the coronavirus of home decoration. If I see that someone has a bunch of throw pillows in their house, it instantly makes me think less of them.
They do have two uses though.
The first and most important, is as a tray. They're perfect for putting that hot plate onto, instead of straight onto your lap, while you watch that film on TV.
The second is that they give you something to lay your head on when you go to lay down. Whether it's because you're feeling tired or ill, you can easily prop your head up without having to go get a pillow from elsewhere.

So at most, I think a home should have two, maybe three throw pillows. And only on the sofa.
If you insist on putting them on a bed though, or owning loads of them, I recommend rethinking your life choices.  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Mon 11/05/2020 14:48:08
Is throw pillow the same thing as cushion. If so, I always make use of my cushions. My sofa is on a weird gradient so a cushion helps make it flat again. Every body is different and every sofa is different so it makes sense to have something to help adjust things a little. Plus they’re invaluable when you get an impromptu hard-on.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Mon 11/05/2020 16:24:16
It was my understanding that throw pillows go on beds, while cushions go on sofas.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Mon 11/05/2020 17:00:25
A pillow is a pillow.
We have a bunch of those on the living room, but like Snarky they're more often on the way, when we want to use the sofa, than not... so instead they're nicely lined up along the windowsill... the cats just love them BTW!  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 12/05/2020 13:47:37
Quote from: Babar on Mon 11/05/2020 16:24:16
It was my understanding that throw pillows go on beds, while cushions go on sofas.
I suppose it's like Magma and Lava. They're the same thing, just in different places.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 18/06/2020 15:19:54
“Track and Trace”

NO! It’s not called Track-and-Bloody-Trace! It’s “Test and Trace”! A different thing entirely. If one more IDIOT calls it Track and Trace, unless you’ve just entered a 12-digit string into a box on the Royal Mail website, I swear I’m going to go postal.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Thu 18/06/2020 15:48:31
Stu, from your Twitter feed I would NEVER have guessed this grinds your gears.  Never in a million years.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Thu 18/06/2020 17:38:18
/me feels out of the loop
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 18/06/2020 19:18:10
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 18/06/2020 15:19:54
“Track and Trace”

NO! It’s not called Track-and-Bloody-Trace! It’s “Test and Trace”! A different thing entirely. If one more IDIOT calls it Track and Trace, unless you’ve just entered a 12-digit string into a box on the Royal Mail website, I swear I’m going to go postal.

If you think I'm going to start calling it "Test and Trace", then you've got another think coming.
...
Get it?
I just referred to my own somewhat related pet-peeve while talking about Stupot's.  :-D
...
Ok, forget it. I don't think anyone is going to get it.  :~(

Also, what is test and trace?
I only know about the whole 12-digit thing that you put into the Royal Mail website. Then again, I don't send and receive many packages, so...  :-\
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 18/06/2020 20:41:12
Test and trace is what they (‘they’ being the NHS and UK authorities) call the system in place for “testing” for positive cases of covid-19 and “tracing” people who they might have been in contact with. Nobody is “tracking” anybody. Yet last night #TrackandTrace was trending on Twitter because nobody stops to check that they are using the right terminology.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 19/06/2020 00:20:13
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 18/06/2020 20:41:12
Test and trace is what they (‘they’ being the NHS and UK authorities) call the system in place for “testing” for positive cases of covid-19 and “tracing” people who they might have been in contact with. Nobody is “tracking” anybody. Yet last night #TrackandTrace was trending on Twitter because nobody stops to check that they are using the right terminology.

I'd say some people are using that term on purpose to suggest a conspiracy that the government is using covid testing to track the population as part of their "grand plan".

A lot of terms like this and "Plandemic" etc. have cropped up over this whole thing.

But yeah, that makes them even more idiots in my book than the people who are just saying it wrong.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Wed 22/07/2020 20:09:39
The new Windows calculator icon. It is just so ugly - what were they thinking?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 23/07/2020 04:55:25
Quote from: cat on Wed 22/07/2020 20:09:39
The new Windows calculator icon. It is just so ugly - what were they thinking?

It was probably one of those "Bob, just finish the damn thing so we can all go get drunk!" type situations.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 23/07/2020 10:30:45
Or maybe it was "Bob, go get drunk and then finish the damn thing"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 23/07/2020 12:24:46
Quote from: Mouth for war on Thu 23/07/2020 10:30:45
Or maybe it was "Bob, go get drunk and then finish the damn thing"

(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Sat 22/08/2020 00:02:58
This is more of a pet peeve, but it always annoys me in movies and TV shows when characters wear glasses, but you can tell from the lack of distortion that they're just flat glass, not proper lenses. I find this more distracting than people drinking from empty cups or all the other little moviemaking fakes.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Sinitrena on Tue 22/09/2020 11:52:37
Pre-cut backing parchment. I don't know if other people have this problem, but pre-cut backing parchment recently really annoys me. It's never the right size for my oven, especially, it is too big. I can cut it into smaller pieces, but then I am left with snippets that are too small to use, or I can not cut it and use too big sheets. Either way, it's a waste of perfectly good backing parchment. Why do shops sell this? Why do enough people buy it that it makes sense for shops to sell it? And why does my local shop not sell the other kind?  ???
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Tue 22/09/2020 16:32:17
I think you answered your own question...

If they only provide you with the pre-cut, then if you have no other choice, and they sell more paper, cause you don't optimally use it.

I have the same problem. I can understand that they don't fit our mini-oven, but they should roughly fit the standard oven of 60x60 cm...  :-\
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 24/09/2020 10:56:13
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Tue 22/09/2020 16:32:17
I think you answered your own question...

If they only provide you with the pre-cut, then if you have no other choice, and they sell more paper, cause you don't optimally use it.

I have the same problem. I can understand that they don't fit our mini-oven, but they should roughly fit the standard oven of 60x60 cm...  :-\
I bet this is why nail polish never comes with a brush that reaches all the way to the bottom of the bottle too, it grinds my gears not being able to get the last nail polish out
if the bottle is less than half full, especially considering how expensive real nail polish is.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Thu 24/09/2020 11:13:36
I don’t wear nail polish, but yeah that would be frustrating.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 24/09/2020 15:26:59
Quote from: milkanannan on Thu 24/09/2020 11:13:36
I don’t wear nail polish, but yeah that would be frustrating.
It's a big reason I stopped wearing it, you'll just end up with several half-filled bottles if you do.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 05/10/2020 15:25:57
It grinds my gears that whatever you need from your handbag or backpack has always found a way to dig itself down to the bottom of it when you want to reach for it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 15/10/2020 22:52:53
ARGH!!! I just had to vent somewhere!

A Covidiot in the chat of a livestream was spamming how the CDC has released data showing that most people who have tested positive for Covid-19 in the USA are mask-wearers, proving that mask-wearing is bad.

I tried to explain to him that mask-wearers are people who are worried about the virus so they GET TESTED. Non-maskers are not worried so they DON'T GET TESTED.

He couldn't get it. Just kept saying that is was legit CDC data so I was wrong and masks are bad.

AAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 15/10/2020 23:57:09
Yeah, these people are absolute morons. And there’s a lot of them.

Not to mention that even mask-wearers have to take their masks off from time-to time. And even with them on, no one ever claimed they were 100% fool-proof.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Olleh19 on Fri 16/10/2020 01:13:46
I hope i don't get shoot right now. ;)
But as you guys know (or may not know). My home origin is the rather different Covid-19 approach country, Sweden. We have no masks here, only in the emergency/hospital areas, military, etc. We did have high death rates in the beginnings, but these days we have sometimes days with no reported deaths, and sometimes 5 to 8 deaths a day. I repeat We have No masks..If it will work in the longrun? I do not know. I was one of the loud voices in the beginnings of the pandemic who shouted "idiots, we need to have masks!", but lately i've changed my thoughts on it.

I think distancing and holding your breath when going by someone is the better option.
Ofc hard if you live in a huge city and go past people all the time, but in a little town it should be do-able, also breath with your nose around people, mouth shut. It should have a better filter system, as i've understood it. So i do that pretty much all the time when i'm around lots of people.


Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 16/10/2020 03:28:13
I agree with you that it’s silly to wear a mask when there’s literally no one else about. I wait until I’m near the station before putting mine on.

But regarding breathing through your nose around people. That’s not gonna solve anything. You can’t cough through your nose and your nose can’t block a sneeze. You r nose is literally there to let sneezes out. Those 5-8 families a day would ask you to wear a mask around people.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Fri 16/10/2020 08:52:36
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 15/10/2020 22:52:53
ARGH!!! I just had to vent somewhere!

A Covidiot in the chat of a livestream was spamming how the CDC has released data showing that most people who have tested positive for Covid-19 in the USA are mask-wearers, proving that mask-wearing is bad.

I tried to explain to him that mask-wearers are people who are worried about the virus so they GET TESTED. Non-maskers are not worried so they DON'T GET TESTED.

He couldn't get it. Just kept saying that is was legit CDC data so I was wrong and masks are bad.

AAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!

Lol was he possibly trolling you? If not, he’s just opened up a new bottom tier of stupidity. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 16/10/2020 10:33:09
Quote from: milkanannan on Fri 16/10/2020 08:52:36
Lol was he possibly trolling you? If not, he’s just opened up a new bottom tier of stupidity. (laugh)

It was a livestream of a flat earth debate so, no, I doubt he was trolling. He was on the flat earth side. LOL!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 16/10/2020 15:59:22
Uhm, I'm in Denmark and we've been without masks up until a month or so ago.
But since the infected started to raise last month, the gov. have decided that you need to use it in public transports, and now also in coffee shops and restaurants (if you are standing, no need to wear it if you seat down).

I know it's not so in many lands, but they just realized that 2020 is the year with lower death rate since 2015, so far anyway... I guess we're just good at keeping distance, washing hands/sanitize them... or we've been lucky so far.

I have yet to wear a mask, my husband has wear one a few times (during doctor visit/hospital) and my son once (he was tested a couple weeks ago, cause he was coughing and school didn't want him there while we was - they tested both negative).

Also remember that you can also be infected via your eyes and masks are meant to protect others from you.

Quoteyour nose can’t block a sneeze.

Actually, I have a success rate of about 80% sneeze blocking, if I close my mouth and nose... And 10% of those that I can't block, end up being an "inside" sneeze, cause my nose and mouth are still closed.  (laugh) The rest are those that just come way too fast for me to react and do anything about it.  (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Fri 16/10/2020 16:21:19
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 16/10/2020 10:33:09
Quote from: milkanannan on Fri 16/10/2020 08:52:36
Lol was he possibly trolling you? If not, he’s just opened up a new bottom tier of stupidity. (laugh)
He was on the flat earth side.

Wow. Just...wow. He's probably a QAnon nutjob, too. How is it that the western world is even back to entertaining these opinions at all? Mind blowing.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 16/10/2020 20:28:35
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Fri 16/10/2020 15:59:22
Quoteyour nose can’t block a sneeze.

Actually, I have a success rate of about 80% sneeze blocking, if I close my mouth and nose... And 10% of those that I can't block, end up being an "inside" sneeze, cause my nose and mouth are still closed.  (laugh) The rest are those that just come way too fast for me to react and do anything about it.  (roll)

+1
Actually, it's my preferred form of sneezing. It's much cleaner. Although, quite uncomfortable.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 16/10/2020 22:56:18
Quote from: milkanannan on Fri 16/10/2020 16:21:19
How is it that the western world is even back to entertaining these opinions at all? Mind blowing.

I KNOW!!! To think that, in 2020, there are still people who believe that the Earth is a globe!
Spoiler
This is something that flat earthers actually say to try and "cleverly" turn the tables on "globers". And, yes, they call us "globers", or "globetards".
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Olleh19 on Sat 17/10/2020 00:07:29
Quote from: Stupot on Fri 16/10/2020 03:28:13
I agree with you that it’s silly to wear a mask when there’s literally no one else about. I wait until I’m near the station before putting mine on.

But regarding breathing through your nose around people. That’s not gonna solve anything. You can’t cough through your nose and your nose can’t block a sneeze. You r nose is literally there to let sneezes out. Those 5-8 families a day would ask you to wear a mask around people.


I do believe masks has it's purpose forexample in tight spaces like bus, or train trips for sure. Well if i have to sneeze, i do so in my elbow, and then keep the mouth shut afterwards. It's weird at first, but i'm so used to going in to the supermarket now with only using nose, i open mouth only perhaps if someone says hi or whatever, but to be honest it rarely happens, since i'm very antisocial these days, so i can pretty much do my groceryshopping with nosebreathing entirely.
So far, so good all i can say!  (laugh)

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 19/10/2020 15:37:01
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 16/10/2020 22:56:18
Quote from: milkanannan on Fri 16/10/2020 16:21:19
How is it that the western world is even back to entertaining these opinions at all? Mind blowing.

I KNOW!!! To think that, in 2020, there are still people who believe that the Earth is a globe!
Spoiler
This is something that flat earthers actually say to try and "cleverly" turn the tables on "globers". And, yes, they call us "globers", or "globetards".
[close]
I honestly believe that flat earthers started from someone trolling, and it just got so out of hand that some people actually started believing the trolls.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Mon 19/10/2020 16:37:25
The Cats movie conspiracy is my favourite from 2020, where there was, uh, apparently an original cut of the movie that included buttholes. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 19/10/2020 17:57:34
Quote from: Danvzare on Mon 19/10/2020 15:37:01
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 16/10/2020 22:56:18
Quote from: milkanannan on Fri 16/10/2020 16:21:19
How is it that the western world is even back to entertaining these opinions at all? Mind blowing.

I KNOW!!! To think that, in 2020, there are still people who believe that the Earth is a globe!
Spoiler
This is something that flat earthers actually say to try and "cleverly" turn the tables on "globers". And, yes, they call us "globers", or "globetards".
[close]
I honestly believe that flat earthers started from someone trolling, and it just got so out of hand that some people actually started believing the trolls.
True, I've even heard it started as somebody coming up with "the flat earth theory" on the spot as a ridiculous example when discussing how unrealistic most conspiracy theories are.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 22/10/2020 11:07:49
Quote from: Danvzare on Mon 19/10/2020 15:37:01
I honestly believe that flat earthers started from someone trolling, and it just got so out of hand that some people actually started believing the trolls.

The guy that started it on YouTube claims that he was doing it as a comedy bit, and then Eric Dubay stole the idea and ran with it and made millions of dollars.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Thu 22/10/2020 11:45:02
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 22/10/2020 11:07:49
Quote from: Danvzare on Mon 19/10/2020 15:37:01
I honestly believe that flat earthers started from someone trolling, and it just got so out of hand that some people actually started believing the trolls.

The guy that started it on
YouTube claims that he was doing it as a comedy bit, and then Eric Dubay stole the idea and ran with it and made millions of dollars.
Grinds my gears when people say the moon is not made of cheese.. It is, a man down the pub told me so it must be true  (laugh)

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 22/10/2020 17:50:34
Quote from: Slasher on Thu 22/10/2020 11:45:02
Grinds my gears when people say the moon is not made of cheese.. It is, a man down the pub told me so it must be true  (laugh)
I can verify that claim. I've had some moon cheese before. It almost tastes like Wensleydale.  :-D

Spoiler
I hope that this doesn't end up becoming the next big dumb thing everyone starts believing in.
Also, +10 internet points for anyone who got my reference.
[close]
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: JackPutter on Thu 22/10/2020 18:26:21
My mate and his dog ran out of cheese once, they decided to head to the moon to grab some...

Spoiler
[imgzoom]https://i.imgur.com/6zXyzaU.jpg[/imgzoom]

I am a gigantic fan, Wallace & Gromit are literally my desktop background!
[close]
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Furwerkstudio on Fri 23/10/2020 01:32:48
What grinds my gears?

Movies like Charm City Kings makes thugs and jerks look like cool and dashing rouges with a code of honor and ethic when in real life they are horrible, horrible little nerds who are cold blooded and don't care who they hurt.

No joke, just a short while before making this post I was taking my mom's dog out, on the sidewalk when these two bike gang bangers go roaring around the block, and came all around the corner causing me to grab my dog, practically pushed my mom out of the way and saw a few other people across the street run like us off the sidewalk because again these jokers in real life are horrible, horrible people and don't care who gets hurt.

I actually saw one ride up Liberty height near the Walgreens right behind an active ambulance, popping a wheelie and almost touching the ambulance's bumper doing so.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Fri 23/10/2020 01:53:52
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Fri 23/10/2020 07:17:25
Quote from: Furwerkstudio on Fri 23/10/2020 01:32:48
What grinds my gears?

Movies like Charm City Kings makes thugs and jerks look like cool and dashing rouges with a code of honor and ethic when in real life they are horrible, horrible little nerds who are cold blooded and don't care who they hurt.

No joke, just a short while before making this post I was taking my mom's dog out, on the sidewalk when these two bike gang bangers go roaring around the block, and came all around the corner causing me to grab my dog, practically pushed my mom out of the way and saw a few other people across the street run like us off the sidewalk because again these jokers in real life are horrible, horrible people and don't care who gets hurt.

I actually saw one ride up Liberty height near the Walgreens right behind an active ambulance, popping a wheelie and almost touching the ambulance's bumper doing so.

Where are you? That sounds awful.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Furwerkstudio on Fri 23/10/2020 11:46:16
Quote from: milkanannan on Fri 23/10/2020 07:17:25
Where are you? That sounds awful.

I live in Baltimore, the home of the American Comic Book distribution, Edgar Allan Poe, Babe Ruth and the Pop Culture museum. Which no one cares about here because it's not gang banging, drugs or faking toughness.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Sun 25/10/2020 12:46:18
Get over it: you need to upgrade your phone every year now (https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2020/10/24/get-over-it-you-need-upgrade-your-phone-every-year-now-prove/3735464001/)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 25/10/2020 14:32:14
Quote from: Jack on Sun 25/10/2020 12:46:18
Get over it: you need to upgrade your phone every year now (https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2020/10/24/get-over-it-you-need-upgrade-your-phone-every-year-now-prove/3735464001/)
+1

Although you know what grinds my gears even more. It was considered normal to upgrade your phone every year back when we were all using tiny flip phones. At least people have a reason to do it now. Who knows what the logic was for it back then?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 25/10/2020 21:06:37
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 25/10/2020 14:32:14
Although you know what grinds my gears even more. It was considered normal to upgrade your phone every year back when we were all using tiny flip phones. At least people have a reason to do it now. Who knows what the logic was for it back then?

Status and/or fashion. I kept my same tiny little PHS phone for like ten years though. Became a joke among friends that it still worked like "Doesn't that only run on 1990s' electricity?!"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 11/11/2020 19:40:59
Something that grinds my gears is when you come up with a well thought out theory to piece together a game's lore, making sure to point out all of the evidence and reasoning for how you came to this conclusion.
Only to have someone say "No, you're wrong." and that's it. No rebuttals, no other comments. Just that. All because your theory flies in the face of everyone's already pre-established head-canon.  >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 12/11/2020 00:19:10
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 11/11/2020 19:40:59
Something that grinds my gears is when you come up with a well thought out theory to piece together a game's lore, making sure to point out all of the evidence and reasoning for how you came to this conclusion.
Only to have someone say "No, you're wrong." and that's it. No rebuttals, no other comments. Just that. All because your theory flies in the face of everyone's already pre-established head-canon.  >:(

Undertale?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 12/11/2020 03:13:41
Something that grinds my gears is when you come up with a [...] thought [...], making sure to point out all of the evidence and reasoning for how you came to this conclusion.
Only to have someone say "No, you're wrong." and that's it. No rebuttals, no other comments. Just that. All because [people are assholes].
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 12/11/2020 07:03:08
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 12/11/2020 03:13:41
Something that grinds my gears is when you come up with a [...] thought [...], making sure to point out all of the evidence and reasoning for how you came to this conclusion.
Only to have someone say "No, you're wrong." and that's it. No rebuttals, no other comments. Just that. All because [people are assholes].

I have a friend who, every time I do that, his next sentence starts with: "I think it's more that..."

Mind you, it does keep a conversation moving.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 13/11/2020 00:11:32
Nose hair.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 13/11/2020 00:56:59
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 13/11/2020 00:11:32
Nose hair.
No, I think it’s more that you just haven’t got used to it. Nose hair is actually there to help protect you.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 13/11/2020 10:17:54
Quote from: Stupot on Fri 13/11/2020 00:56:59
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 13/11/2020 00:11:32
Nose hair.
No, I think it’s more that you just haven’t got used to it. Nose hair is actually there to help protect you.

Wait until you pass 50. It gets annoying as eff!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Jack on Fri 13/11/2020 14:16:16
Just twirl it and tell people it's a moustache.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 13/11/2020 16:00:36
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 12/11/2020 00:19:10
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 11/11/2020 19:40:59
Something that grinds my gears is when you come up with a well thought out theory to piece together a game's lore, making sure to point out all of the evidence and reasoning for how you came to this conclusion.
Only to have someone say "No, you're wrong." and that's it. No rebuttals, no other comments. Just that. All because your theory flies in the face of everyone's already pre-established head-canon.  >:(

Undertale?
Lakeview Cabin actually. But it applies to every fandom really.

Quote from: Mandle on Fri 13/11/2020 00:11:32
Nose hair.
To add to that: plucking nose hairs. Why does it make your eyes water?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Pogwizd on Fri 13/11/2020 17:04:30
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 13/11/2020 16:00:36
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 13/11/2020 00:11:32
Nose hair.
To add to that: plucking nose hairs. Why does it make your eyes water?

Why does it always make you sneeze, too? Or is it just me?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Sat 14/11/2020 04:24:30
You guys pluck your nose hairs? Doesn't that hurt?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 14/11/2020 10:54:38
You guys plucking your nose hairs doesn't make my eyes water or make me sneeze. What are you talking about?!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Pogwizd on Sat 14/11/2020 11:51:16
Quote from: Mandle on Sat 14/11/2020 10:54:38
You guys plucking your nose hairs doesn't make my eyes water or make me sneeze. What are you talking about?!

Biology, I guess :)

Quote from: milkanannan on Sat 14/11/2020 04:24:30
You guys pluck your nose hairs? Doesn't that hurt?

A little bit, yeah. But when there's no hair trimmer around what choice have you got...?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Sat 14/11/2020 11:58:43
It's so annoying when the solution to a puzzle is to use something that isn't marked in your inventory, but you in hindsight understand that you had. Like all those games where you are supposed to use your nose hairs to make an air filter. Or pick your nose to make your character sneeze and set off an avalanche.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Mon 16/11/2020 10:27:28
A few minor things that grinds my gears.

1. When you're doing the dishes and you think you're almost done. You remove that last plastic bowl that was standing upside down from the sink and realise it was covering another large stack of plates or

2. A lot of us game making nerds knows exactly how important those late nights are for us :-D Still you want to be considerate of others who are sleeping. You try your best to be quiet and immediately you drop something heavy on the floor or hit a piece of furniture...usually with your foot, and of course so you get hurt and are about to lose a nail and you must whisper the profanities you just want to yell out. Waking up the wife....and you have nowhere to run :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Thu 19/11/2020 17:56:36
What grinds my gears right now is how prevalent innumeracy is. Or rather, people confidently and loudly spreading nonsense while also not understanding extremely basic math.

1. Biden and Trump are hailed for their record-breaking voter turnout all over the place. The amount of people who vote grows with the population though, so the only relevant figure is the percentage of potential voters. Both have less than Reagan, Trump has less than Bush, and if you go back to when women were allowed to vote, they are on #10 and #15, respectively, behind Nixon. Not exactly as news-worthy though, I guess.

2. One of the loudest anti-lockdown fuckwits in Germany is confused about how exponential growth works and thinks that if the growth rate goes down it's no longer exponential growth. This is trivially false, as anybody understands who has ever had a bank account and seen their interest go down a few points.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 19/11/2020 22:15:04
Quote from: Khris on Thu 19/11/2020 17:56:36
What grinds my gears right now is how prevalent innumeracy is. Or rather, people confidently and loudly spreading nonsense while also not understanding extremely basic math.

Like a prominent flat-earther who constantly tells his cultish followers that the 10^-17 Torr (pressure) of space is a negative number, meaning that space supposedly has a "negative pressure" and that the vacuum of space should suck the Earth's atmosphere right off it. Not only is the math and science misunderstood, but also they think that "vacuum" means like a Dyson.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Sun 22/11/2020 08:15:33
That in English, "cloves" is a unit of measurement for garlic, and also a completely separate and different spice in its own right. Unacceptable.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 22/11/2020 16:00:07
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 19/11/2020 22:15:04
Quote from: Khris on Thu 19/11/2020 17:56:36
What grinds my gears right now is how prevalent innumeracy is. Or rather, people confidently and loudly spreading nonsense while also not understanding extremely basic math.

Like a prominent flat-earther who constantly tells his cultish followers that the 10^-17 Torr (pressure) of space is a negative number, meaning that space supposedly has a "negative pressure" and that the vacuum of space should suck the Earth's atmosphere right off it. Not only is the math and science misunderstood, but also they think that "vacuum" means like a Dyson.

Oh wow, really? By that same logic, we should all be dead.  ???
You'd think the obvious fact that space doesn't suck all of Earth's atmosphere right off of it, would tip him off that his logic is flawed. (Not to mention all of the other things he clearly forgot to take into account, including gravity, magnetic fields, ect).

It's like those people who come up with a design for a perpetual motion machine, and honestly believe it works. You'd think the fact that it doesn't work, would be enough to convince them that it doesn't work. But it isn't.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 22/11/2020 16:14:06
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 22/11/2020 16:00:07
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 19/11/2020 22:15:04
Quote from: Khris on Thu 19/11/2020 17:56:36
What grinds my gears right now is how prevalent innumeracy is. Or rather, people confidently and loudly spreading nonsense while also not understanding extremely basic math.

Like a prominent flat-earther who constantly tells his cultish followers that the 10^-17 Torr (pressure) of space is a negative number, meaning that space supposedly has a "negative pressure" and that the vacuum of space should suck the Earth's atmosphere right off it. Not only is the math and science misunderstood, but also they think that "vacuum" means like a Dyson.

Oh wow, really? By that same logic, we should all be dead.  ???
You'd think the obvious fact that space doesn't suck all of Earth's atmosphere right off of it, would tip him off that his logic is flawed. (Not to mention all of the other things he clearly forgot to take into account, including gravity, magnetic fields, ect).

It's like those people who come up with a design for a perpetual motion machine, and honestly believe it works. You'd think the fact that it doesn't work, would be enough to convince them that it doesn't work. But it isn't.  (laugh)

But what you have failed to take into account is that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KThlYHfIVa8
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Sun 22/11/2020 17:37:44

"Black friday is the best day to shopping" is the line actually what are grindig mine.

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 14/12/2020 18:57:56
It grinds my gears when people can't see past the name of something, and then they call you the idiot because you don't take things at face value.

For example: "Of course a coconut is a nut, why else would it have nut in the name?"
:-\
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Mon 14/12/2020 22:54:32
Quote from: Danvzare on Mon 14/12/2020 18:57:56
"Of course a coconut is a nut, why else would it have nut in the name?"

Grrr that grinds my gears too...a lot....ignorant people.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 14/12/2020 23:54:52
Quote from: Danvzare on Mon 14/12/2020 18:57:56
It grinds my gears when people can't see past the name of something,

Not exactly what you were talking about but: I have a Japanese friend who refuses to watch some movies I know he would enjoy because of the stupidly translated Japanese naming of them.

Two examples:

"Raising Arizona" in Japanese is "Baby Thief" which makes it sound like it's about a baby who is a thief so my friend equates it with "Baby's Day Out" and "Look Who's talking".

"The Italian Job" in Japanese is "The Grand Mini Mini Heist" which sounds like some kind of stupid map-cap comedy romp. I recommended the original movie BTW, not the lackluster remake, but they both have the same names in Japanese.

No matter how many times I tell him that the Japanese naming does NOT represent the actual movies, he cannot get past the initial bad impressions those names gave him and will never watch those excellent films.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 15/12/2020 16:38:24
"Baby Thief" and "The Grand Mini Mini Heist" sound like names that would belong to some of the cheesiest and funniest movies I would ever seen.  (laugh)
Now I kind of want actual movies made, based on those names.

Also, could you imagine if those were the actual names of those movies in English?

It's a real shame that your friend can't see past those titles though.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 15/12/2020 22:17:40
Quote from: Danvzare on Tue 15/12/2020 16:38:24
It's a real shame that your friend can't see past those titles though.

I kinda suspect that he's doing it to annoy me.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 28/01/2021 22:36:11
It grinds my gears that I keep seeing the same Cyberpunk 2077 ad everywhere.
(if you've missed it, see it at your own risk (https://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/cyberpunk-2077.jpg?fit=1820%2C1024&strip=all))
I never got into the hype and decided early on I didn't want it because it just seemed to be a bunch Cyberpunk cliches that has already been done in more original ways in dozens of games already,
a bunch of gritty crime tropes I detest, and sandbox gameplay, which is one of my least favorite genres, but what I really truly HATE about that game is it's poster/thumbnail that they put everywhere,
with the world's most generic guy (https://static0.gamerantimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Video-Game-Protagonists-Brown-Haired-White-Guys.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=984) standing in front of a neon-yellow single-color background so garish that it literally hurts my eyes watching it.

It's like somebody wished upon a monkey's paw to make AAA video games stop being so gray and brown and it fulfilled it in the most garish color possible.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Thu 28/01/2021 23:37:35
Quote from: Blondbraid on Thu 28/01/2021 22:36:11
It grinds my gears that I keep seeing the same Cyberpunk 2077 ad everywhere.
(if you've missed it, see it at your own risk (https://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/cyberpunk-2077.jpg?fit=1820%2C1024&strip=all))
Caption for the ad: "The hairdresser deserves this!" (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Crimson Wizard on Fri 29/01/2021 12:49:45
Quote from: Blondbraid on Thu 28/01/2021 22:36:11standing in front of a neon-yellow single-color background so garish that it literally hurts my eyes watching it.

This is what the smog in Los Angeles will look like in 2077.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Sinitrena on Mon 01/02/2021 17:43:19
Amazon is grinding my gears right now. I don't know if this is the same everywhere, but here you always get the option to tick a box so that your order gets sent in as few packets as possible. I always tick this box and Amazon still manages to send my order with 7 items in 5 parcels. Are you f... kidding me? (And before you ask, all articles were in stock and are all supposed to arrive on the same day.) And it seems to happen more and more often. Two years ago or so, the max number of parcels from one order was two and my orders are always around 7 to 10 articles.
I mean, I know this is probably due to the things being send from different warehouses, but it's still annoying.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 02/02/2021 00:31:02
Quote from: Sinitrena on Mon 01/02/2021 17:43:19
Amazon is grinding my gears right now. I don't know if this is the same everywhere, but here you always get the option to tick a box so that your order gets sent in as few packets as possible. I always tick this box and Amazon still manages to send my order with 7 items in 5 parcels. Are you f... kidding me? (And before you ask, all articles were in stock and are all supposed to arrive on the same day.) And it seems to happen more and more often. Two years ago or so, the max number of parcels from one order was two and my orders are always around 7 to 10 articles.
I mean, I know this is probably due to the things being send from different warehouses, but it's still annoying.
Maybe they expect all their customers to make unboxing videos?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Sinitrena on Tue 02/02/2021 08:33:51
"Oh, here's the scotch tape. Yeah, needed that, I ran out..."
"Hey, look, the cable I soooooo wanted. I mean, it's just a spare in case my other one breaks but..."
"Wait! That's cool, batteries. Now I can use my kitchen scale again. But that reminds me, I need to buy flour when I go shopping the next time..."
(laugh) (laugh) (laugh)

At least they managed to send all parcels with the same parcel service this time. More often than not, it's different ones and of course they don't come to your door at the same time.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Tue 02/02/2021 10:04:37
This sounds like adventure game material to me...Parcel Quest!  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 16/02/2021 13:03:34
It grinds my gears that there are so many nature "documentaries" that are all about painting nature as some kind of giant gladiator arena that's all about animals killing each other,
often just helping spread misconceptions of animals like White sharks, wolves, hyenas, and others being mindless killing machines rather than bringing any real education to the table.

it's so frustrating because firstly, most research has revealed that the majority of all animals have far more intricate social interactions than previously thought, a far cry from the "endless fight for dominance" narrative,
and secondly, very few wild animals pose an active danger to humans and about 90% of the cases of people being killed have been people actively running up and provoking them, trying to pick them up or chase them.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 16/02/2021 14:00:05
Quote from: Blondbraid on Tue 16/02/2021 13:03:34
It grinds my gears that there are so many nature "documentaries" that are all about painting nature as some kind of giant gladiator arena that's all about animals killing each other,
often just helping spread misconceptions of animals like White sharks, wolves, hyenas, and others being mindless killing machines rather than bringing any real education to the table.

it's so frustrating because firstly, most research has revealed that the majority of all animals have far more intricate social interactions than previously thought, a far cry from the "endless fight for dominance" narrative,
and secondly, very few wild animals pose an active danger to humans and about 90% of the cases of people being killed have been people actively running up and provoking them, trying to pick them up or chase them.


I'm guessing you watched some of the ones with the narrator saying "The fierce beast lurks in the undergrowth, while its unsuspecting prey graze peacefully, never suspecting that anything was amiss... UNTIL!!!!"

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 16/02/2021 14:57:11
Quote from: Mandle on Tue 16/02/2021 14:00:05
Quote from: Blondbraid on Tue 16/02/2021 13:03:34
It grinds my gears that there are so many nature "documentaries" that are all about painting nature as some kind of giant gladiator arena that's all about animals killing each other,
often just helping spread misconceptions of animals like White sharks, wolves, hyenas, and others being mindless killing machines rather than bringing any real education to the table.

it's so frustrating because firstly, most research has revealed that the majority of all animals have far more intricate social interactions than previously thought, a far cry from the "endless fight for dominance" narrative,
and secondly, very few wild animals pose an active danger to humans and about 90% of the cases of people being killed have been people actively running up and provoking them, trying to pick them up or chase them.


I'm guessing you watched some of the ones with the narrator saying "The fierce beast lurks in the undergrowth, while its unsuspecting prey graze peacefully, never suspecting that anything was amiss... UNTIL!!!!"


More or less. It doesn't help that several nature channels have stuff like "big cat week" or "shark month", meaning nearly all the documentaries will be the same species, sometimes even the same animal trashing some critter over and over.

Plus from what I've heard, some unscrupulous film crews even straighup shoot an antelope to get more footage of lions and their peers tearing a bloody carcass apart.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 17/02/2021 04:09:52
My wife was watching a nature documentary that seems to be aware of our human tendency to demonize predators as the bad guys:

She watched in horror as a fox slaughtered a nest of baby birds while the mother was out foraging for them.

And then the film showed the mother fox bringing the dead baby birds back to her lair to feed to the cute-as-hell baby fox litter she was raising.

Even though she knows about how all this works, she still had the gut-reaction to watching the killing of the baby birds of "that fox is evil!" but then the next scene so contradicts that view that she was a bit shocked at herself for getting manipulated like that.

I wish I knew the name of the film because that is subversive genius!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 17/02/2021 09:30:11
Quote from: Mandle on Wed 17/02/2021 04:09:52
My wife was watching a nature documentary that seems to be aware of our human tendency to demonize predators as the bad guys:

She watched in horror as a fox slaughtered a nest of baby birds while the mother was out foraging for them.

And then the film showed the mother fox bringing the dead baby birds back to her lair to feed to the cute-as-hell baby fox litter she was raising.

Even though she knows about how all this works, she still had the gut-reaction to watching the killing of the baby birds of "that fox is evil!" but then the next scene so contradicts that view that she was a bit shocked at herself for getting manipulated like that.

I wish I knew the name of the film because that is subversive genius!
Does she know deer and bovines sometimes also eat small birds for calcium? Let's just say they're not exactly Bambi out in the wild.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 17/02/2021 17:26:41
Quote from: Blondbraid on Tue 16/02/2021 13:03:34
It grinds my gears that there are so many nature "documentaries" that are all about painting nature as some kind of giant gladiator arena that's all about animals killing each other,
It was only a few years ago that I learnt that documentaries aren't supposed to teach you stuff. They're just there to be entertaining. So with that in mind, things such as "facts" usually don't matter.
I know that I sound dumb for having not realized that sooner. But you can't blame me for not realizing that something as boring as documentaries, were being made as entertainment.  8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 17/02/2021 20:56:11
Quote from: Danvzare on Wed 17/02/2021 17:26:41
Quote from: Blondbraid on Tue 16/02/2021 13:03:34
It grinds my gears that there are so many nature "documentaries" that are all about painting nature as some kind of giant gladiator arena that's all about animals killing each other,
It was only a few years ago that I learnt that documentaries aren't supposed to teach you stuff. They're just there to be entertaining. So with that in mind, things such as "facts" usually don't matter.
I know that I sound dumb for having not realized that sooner. But you can't blame me for not realizing that something as boring as documentaries, were being made as entertainment.  8-0
The huge problem is that there are documentaries that genuinely do try to teach people facts, and entertainment masking as documentaries, tricking people into thinking their sensationalism is true to life.

For example, Captain America: The first avenger was 100% made to be entertainment, and most people are completely fine with such a film having unrealistic scenes because it's not trying to be realistic,
but if a teacher basically told their students "let's skip the boring WW2 documentary where it's just a bunch of veterans and survivors talking, you can learn all you need on WW2 from watching Captain America
instead, and you'll have much more fun in the process, I say everyone would agree that that teacher either was a moron or wanted to actively make people dumber after attending their class.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Tue 30/03/2021 13:25:50
The "Superman is a horrible concept to write for" idea.
The idea that a protagonist that is morally upright and invincible can't have good stories. To me, that just smells of excuses for not being skilled at writing, and I thought pop-culture as a whole had moved beyond that argument, but I saw it recommended to me as a video again recently.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 30/03/2021 15:26:01
Quote from: Babar on Tue 30/03/2021 13:25:50
The "Superman is a horrible concept to write for" idea.
The idea that a protagonist that is morally upright and invincible can't have good stories. To me, that just smells of excuses for not being skilled at writing, and I thought pop-culture as a whole had moved beyond that argument, but I saw it recommended to me as a video again recently.
Yeah, it's pretty annoying when people bring up the whole Mary-Sue (or in this case Gary-Stu) argument.
The argument goes that a character with zero flaws, is a boring and poorly written character. The problem is, it is impossible to make a character with zero flaws. If you look at some of the worst written fan-fiction ever, with protagonists that are clearly supposed to be Mary-Sues, then you will quickly find an overwhelming number of flaws (being selfish is usually the main one). The problem is, those same stories tend to completely ignore those flaws.
As such, there is no perfect character with no flaws, only stories which ignore those flaws. There is no character that can do anything, only stories that allow a character to do anything.
I can think of a whole bunch of stories for Superman, and clearly the creators could too. That's why his arch-nemesis is just an ordinary business man. You can be an invincible morally-upright superhero, but even that's no match for an ordinary scummy business man who doesn't technically do anything illegal.
So yeah, I agree. That is annoying, and just a showcase of poor writing abilities. The thing is, almost everyone seems to be a terrible writer. (Me included, but at least I recognize it.)



Here's something that grinds my gears. The fact that people consider Snakes and Ladders (or Chutes and Ladders to some) to be a board game.
Does it require a board? Yes. Is it a game? Not... at... all!
It would be easy to make Snakes and Ladders into an actual game, but with the default rules, it is not a game, and I can prove it.

First, imagine I made a video game adaptation of Snake and Ladders. At the start you get to choose how many players will play. Now most modern video game adaptations of board games will automatically roll the dice and move your piece the necessary number of spaces for you, and also automatically do the effect of the tile you land on. As such the only time you need to do something is when there's a choice, in Monopoly it's whether to buy or sell a property, on Cluedo it's where to move, and of course on those two games you can choose to do things before you roll the dice such as trade a property or make an accusation.
So now that this hypothetical Snakes and Ladders game has been made, you turn it on, set it to two players, and... it's just a screensaver. There is more interactivity on a DVD menu!
As such, Snakes and Ladders is a performance, and NOT a game.  >:(
It's the equivalent of following a script for a stage-play.

It does not qualify in any shape or form under any definition as a game! If you did manage to shoehorn it into a definition of a game, that definition would have to be so loosely defined that it could include many things that no one in their right mind would ever consider as a game.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Tue 30/03/2021 16:57:49
Quote from: Danvzare on Tue 30/03/2021 15:26:01
Here's something that grinds my gears. The fact that people consider Snakes and Ladders (or Chutes and Ladders to some) to be a board game.
Does it require a board? Yes. Is it a game? Not... at... all!
It would be easy to make Snakes and Ladders into an actual game, but with the default rules, it is not a game, and I can prove it.

The other day on Twitter, some game designer posted the argument for why Candyland (which is similarly "on rails"â€"even more so than Snakes and Ladders, since the outcome is decided in advance by shuffling a deck of cards) is not just a game, but a great game for its target audience. The relevant part for this discussion (partly from the replies) is:

Also, kids (and many adults) are superstitious, and therefore strain to affect the dice mentally (which, in turn, requires them to be able to predict which outcomes will be good and which will be bad, another aspect of numeracy). Even if it doesn't actually work, they have a subjective impression of agency.

Besides, you could make a very similar argument about for example Roulette: you have options, but they are meaninglessâ€"it doesn't matter a damn which number you choose to bet on (or red/black or any of the other types of bet), since it's all random anyway… and statistically speaking you're going to lose.

And as for your "a computer could do it all for you"â€"sure, but then again, a sufficiently advanced computer could auto-click its way through any adventure game (without deaths or dead ends), or play a guaranteed-to-be-perfect game of chess.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 30/03/2021 17:33:22
Quote from: Danvzare on Tue 30/03/2021 15:26:01
Quote from: Babar on Tue 30/03/2021 13:25:50
The "Superman is a horrible concept to write for" idea.
The idea that a protagonist that is morally upright and invincible can't have good stories. To me, that just smells of excuses for not being skilled at writing, and I thought pop-culture as a whole had moved beyond that argument, but I saw it recommended to me as a video again recently.
Yeah, it's pretty annoying when people bring up the whole Mary-Sue (or in this case Gary-Stu) argument.
The argument goes that a character with zero flaws, is a boring and poorly written character. The problem is, it is impossible to make a character with zero flaws. If you look at some of the worst written fan-fiction ever, with protagonists that are clearly supposed to be Mary-Sues, then you will quickly find an overwhelming number of flaws (being selfish is usually the main one). The problem is, those same stories tend to completely ignore those flaws.
As such, there is no perfect character with no flaws, only stories which ignore those flaws. There is no character that can do anything, only stories that allow a character to do anything.
I can think of a whole bunch of stories for Superman, and clearly the creators could too. That's why his arch-nemesis is just an ordinary business man. You can be an invincible morally-upright superhero, but even that's no match for an ordinary scummy business man who doesn't technically do anything illegal.
So yeah, I agree. That is annoying, and just a showcase of poor writing abilities. The thing is, almost everyone seems to be a terrible writer. (Me included, but at least I recognize it.)
I second that, plus I'm tired of people automatically assuming that dark and gritty automatically makes it deep.
More often than not, it just means tacking on a bunch and imagery pandering to edgelord teens, but also, the same hack writers just replace any idea of good morals and likable characters
with mean-spirited and incredibly shallow nihilism instead, to the point you don't care about anyone or anything that happens in the story. I'm pretty sure that was what made Batman vs Superman such a bad story.
For comparison, watch this clip from Superman vs The Elite:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Wed 31/03/2021 18:09:44
Quote from: Babar on Tue 30/03/2021 13:25:50
The "Superman is a horrible concept to write for" idea.
The idea that a protagonist that is morally upright and invincible can't have good stories. To me, that just smells of excuses for not being skilled at writing, and I thought pop-culture as a whole had moved beyond that argument, but I saw it recommended to me as a video again recently.

There are many good Superman stories, and many less good ones, too. The challenge seems to be that he's so powerful that he's not in any real danger. This can be solved by making even more powerful enemies, which is not a good solution in the long run, or by making stories that is about something else. I've been watching the new Superman & Lois tv series, and like what I see so far. The writers have emphasized parenthood, making moral choices and so on.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 01/04/2021 02:25:37
Regarding Superman not necessarily equates to bad stories, I think this (https://www.cracked.com/article_29610_4-reasons-anyone-who-says-superman-boring-superhero-full-it.html) is a good read.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 01/04/2021 17:51:35
Quote from: Snarky on Tue 30/03/2021 16:57:49
-snip-
You clearly have never considered the definition of a game.
I've thought a long time about it. I've read academic papers on the subject by people with PHDs, and I can easily argue why Walking Simulators are games, why Sim City is a game, why Visual Novels are games. Then I can go into much more older games such as Naughts and Crosses, Poker, and even Chess, and argue why they are all indeed games.
But Snakes and Ladders doesn't fit in with it. Because as I said before, to call it a game, you would have to call a lot of other things a game which are not.
I don't always get my words out right, so you'll have to bear with me, and actually use that brain of yours to come up with some suitable comebacks to your questions, rather than instantly going "AH HA! He left out one crucial detail! I've got him now... oh, he countered it easily. AH HA! He left out yet another crucial detail! I've got him now... oh, he countered it easily again." Seriously, it's annoying when people think they've won an argument by pointing out one teeny tiny slight flaw in your logic, just because they're incapable of figuring out what was clearly implied.  >:(
I'll try my best to spell everything out, but this isn't an academic paper, so like I said, you'll have to bear with me.

So let's first come up with a wide reaching definition that counters all of your arguments, and doesn't include Snakes and Ladders.
A game involves meaningful player agency, and includes either a win and/or fail state (this state does not need to be enforced by the game).
So this doesn't include say, a stage play, since there's technically a "win" state, the end of the play, but no meaningful player agency. You can choose how to deliver the lines, but other than fudging them up, you can't really do anything. It does unfortunately include a purely improvised play, as a game, but then again it is, as that would basically be Dungeons and Dragons without the dice. (Also, it still includes open ended games like MMOs, as not only do they have fail states in that you can die, but most players make their own win state, so they usually have both states, despite only needing one to be a game)
It doesn't include Snakes and Ladders because even though there's a win state, you can't do anything meaningful other than how you roll the dice, which generally doesn't have any effect on the game.

So let's counter your points in turn.  :-D
You have meaningful choices in a Walking Simulator. In LSD Dream Emulator, you can choose what to see, and what not to see. What to run into and interact with. With The Stanley Parable you can choose which option to choose. Even with the most boring of Walking Simulators, you can usually choose to inspect something and truly explore and take in your surroundings. This is all meaningful. It's what the genre is about. The fact that you would even bring up Walking Simulators, makes me think that you don't get the genre. Also they all have win states. Usually getting to the end, even LSD Dream Emulator has a win state, to get to the end of a dream, or the bigger goal of the end of the year.

Taking turns is not a meaningful choice. It's something you HAVE to do.
Throwing dice is not a meaningful choice, it's something you HAVE to do. Like pressing the shoot button on an FPS or the forward button on a Walking Simulator (inspecting the environment isn't something you have to do, but something you're expected to do to enjoy a Walking Simulator).
Counting the pips is not a meaningful choice, it's something you HAVE to do.
Moving the piece the correct number of spaces is not a meaningful choice, it's something you HAVE to do.

Using mental strain to change the outcome is not a meaningful choice. It's the illusion of choice.

Roulette has a meaningful choice. Sure, it's completely random. But despite the odds, it's going to land on one of those numbers. You can make a meaningful (albeit completely uninformed) choice.
You're confusing an uninformed nearly meaningless choice, with the complete lack of a choice. Choosing where to put your token on a roulette table isn't the equivalent to rolling the dice in Snake and Ladders. Spinning the roulette table is the equivalent to rolling the dice (you have to do it). There is no equivalent to choosing WHERE to put your token in roulette with Snake and Ladders because Snake and Ladders doesn't have any meaningful choices in it. But I suppose in theory, it could be argued that roulette isn't a game based on my definition. I'm not here to argue that though.

Yes, a computer could randomly click through everything in an adventure game. But in my example, I merely included what was considered good-design practices. Having something which clicks the entire screen for you on an adventure game, is neither a common nor good design practice. Having a boardgame video game automatically roll the dice for you when you can't do anything, and move you the correct number of places, is both a common and good design practice.
Having to manually roll the dice and move the piece on a boardgame video game, would be the equivalent of having to move the players limbs individually QWOP style on an adventure game to interact with everything.

To further add to this, if you have an adventure game click everything for you, you're not playing it. And a game must be played to be a game. If you made an adventure game click everything for you, it ceases to be a game for that person. To further prove this, we can play a game of Snakes and Ladders right now. Get out a board, since I'm not over there, you'll have to roll the dice and move my piece for me (I think that's fair). Now just get back to me when I need to do something or when one of us wins.



By the way, I can keep this up all day. There's a few people on this forum that will fight to the ends of the earth on what can only be called a petty subject. This is mine. I know what I'm talking about here. Heck, I even gave you my own personal definition for a game! One that I spent years perfecting! What do you have? A few gut feelings and a general ignorance on the whole subject?
Now you know why it grinds my gears!  >:(

Also, if you decide to continue to argue with me. Do me a favour and give me your definition of a game, so that I can point out all of the holes in it. Because I'm telling you, if you manage to make a definition of "game" that includes Snake and Ladders, you're going to have to include real-life scripted stage plays as a game, as well as DVD menus.  (nod)
And then I'll get to laugh about how your definition is wrong.  (laugh)
(By the way, my definition doesn't include DVD menus as games, because choosing one of those options isn't a meaningful choice. If you want to play the movie, you HAVE to press the "Play Movie" button. There is no choice. When and how you do it, doesn't effect it, so long as you press the button. Unlike say, a game where you have to stop a stopwatch on exactly the 1-minute mark, as even though pressing the button isn't a meaningful choice, when you press it, is a meaningful choice.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Thu 01/04/2021 18:51:47
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 01/04/2021 17:51:35
You clearly have never considered the definition of a game.

I have. I don't agree either with your definition or with your analysis.

And you're working from the assumption that there is one definition that will cleanly separate games from non-games. This strikes me as an unreasonable assumption.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 01/04/2021 18:55:51
Quote from: Snarky on Thu 01/04/2021 18:51:47
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 01/04/2021 17:51:35
You clearly have never considered the definition of a game.

I have. I don't agree either with your definition or with your analysis.

And you're working from the assumption that there is one definition that will cleanly separate games from non-games. This strikes me as an unreasonable assumption.
We have words for a reason. There clearly is a definition. That's what language is about.  >:(
And what you have just stated clearly means you don't have a definition for "game", meaning you should have no opinion on the matter. Which means you're not allowed to discuss why a definition for "game" is wrong, as you yourself don't have a definition for it yourself. It is essentially a word that isn't in your vocabulary. Because as you clearly stated, you think it is unreasonable to assume that there is a definition for "game".

In other words. Shoo.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Thu 01/04/2021 23:13:37
Danvzare, your definition excludes games of chance. So, fair enough, by your definition, Snakes & Ladders isn't a game.

One cannot really argue against a definition, one can only say whether or not it serves the purpose. If you want to make a divide between board games and board competitions (which Snakes & Ladders must be, as you can win or lose), then fine. But this isn't how stores and most people will define a game. They will probably think it's something along the lines of "a competition on a board where you can win or lose by following set rules". (Board game, there. Card game...almost the same.)

I'm not sure where I would draw the line. I'd say Bingo is a game, but I'm not so sure about a lottery or a bet. They would probably be games in the English language, though.

But I like your argument. Indeed, we use it a bit when we play games with the kids. I can participate while making dinner, if someone can just make the roll for me and move my piece.  :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Fri 02/04/2021 12:34:28
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 01/04/2021 18:55:51
We have words for a reason. There clearly is a definition. That's what language is about.  >:(

No, definitions of natural-language words are after-the-fact attempts to describe what they tend to mean. Many words (and not just homonyms) cover a number of similar/related concepts, but not in a clean way where you can sum it up in a formula. I think "game" is one of those.

QuoteAnd what you have just stated clearly means you don't have a definition for "game", meaning you should have no opinion on the matter. Which means you're not allowed to discuss why a definition for "game" is wrong, as you yourself don't have a definition for it yourself. It is essentially a word that isn't in your vocabulary. Because as you clearly stated, you think it is unreasonable to assume that there is a definition for "game".

In other words. Shoo.

Oh get bent.

If you insist, for the type of game under discussion, I'd go with something like "a structured activity undertaken for fun" as a definition. This would not cover unstructured children's play, or indeed everything we call "computer games" (including most adventure games)â€"because I think those are genuinely slightly different things that just happen to be called by the same name. Similarly, I think there are mostly good reasons for what it includes (e.g. square dancing) and excludes (e.g. professional competitions).

Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 01/04/2021 17:51:35
Using mental strain to change the outcome is not a meaningful choice. It's the illusion of choice.

Roulette has a meaningful choice. Sure, it's completely random. But despite the odds, it's going to land on one of those numbers. You can make a meaningful (albeit completely uninformed) choice.

If it's completely random then it is not meaningful. You have no more control over the outcome than you do when you roll dice. You have no real agency.

We can demonstrate this by a small alteration of the Snakes and Ladders rules. Let's say that before you throw the die, you have to pick a number A between 1 and 6, and then this number is added to the result of your throw, D. The spaces you move is then calculated as (A+D-1)%6 + 1; or to put it more simply, if the number is greater than 6, subtract 6, giving a result between 1 and 6. By this alteration, S&L is now a game according to your criteria (you have to make a choice each turn, and that choice affects the outcome)â€"indeed, very similar to rouletteâ€"but it's obvious that the change makes no meaningful difference, since the randomness of the roll means you have no control of the outcome, and so your choice is meaninglessly arbitrary.

Or take traditional Bingo (with pre-filled cards). There is no agency: you're at the mercy of the card you get and the numbers that are randomly drawn. The interactive, challenging element is to listen, pay attention, spot the numbers that are called on your card (or, more often, cards), and recognizing when you have completed a line. In other words, tasks that a computer could easily do automatically without your input in a computer version, and that amount to following the rules of the game. Those things are appropriately challenging for the audience, just as S&L is for its audience.

QuoteYes, a computer could randomly click through everything in an adventure game. But in my example, I merely included what was considered good-design practices.

If anything, you've only showed that a fully computerized version of S&L would not be a game. It does not follow that the non-computerized boardgame is not a game.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 02/04/2021 15:56:13
Quote from: heltenjon on Thu 01/04/2021 23:13:37
Danvzare, your definition excludes games of chance. So, fair enough, by your definition, Snakes & Ladders isn't a game.
Does it actually exclude games of chance? Poker is a game of chance, yet choosing which cards to keep and which to not, is a meaningful decision. Based on what Snarky said, it does seem to though.

Quote from: heltenjon on Thu 01/04/2021 23:13:37
One cannot really argue against a definition, one can only say whether or not it serves the purpose. If you want to make a divide between board games and board competitions (which Snakes & Ladders must be, as you can win or lose), then fine. But this isn't how stores and most people will define a game. They will probably think it's something along the lines of "a competition on a board where you can win or lose by following set rules". (Board game, there. Card game...almost the same.)
Fair point. Then the purpose of this definition is to include everything this is normally considered a game, without including circular reasoning. In other words, the definition "It's a game, because it's a game." won't fly here.

Quote from: heltenjon on Thu 01/04/2021 23:13:37
I'm not sure where I would draw the line. I'd say Bingo is a game, but I'm not so sure about a lottery or a bet. They would probably be games in the English language, though.

But I like your argument. Indeed, we use it a bit when we play games with the kids. I can participate while making dinner, if someone can just make the roll for me and move my piece.  :-D
Yeah, I'm not sure where I draw the line either. That's kind of what set me on this path of thinking to begin with.  :-\






Quote from: Snarky on Fri 02/04/2021 12:34:28
No, definitions of natural-language words are after-the-fact attempts to describe what they tend to mean. Many words (and not just homonyms) cover a number of similar/related concepts, but not in a clean way where you can sum it up in a formula. I think "game" is one of those.
Fair point about definitions there. So correct me if I'm wrong, what you're saying is that Snake and Ladders is a game, but not in the same way as say, Monkey Island. It's the same word, but different meaning, and I'm trying lump them all together? I bit like how "love" has four meanings, that the English language has lumped all into one word. I'd be willing to accept that.

Quote from: Snarky on Fri 02/04/2021 12:34:28
Oh get bent.
:-D

Quote from: Snarky on Fri 02/04/2021 12:34:28
If you insist, for the type of game under discussion, I'd go with something like "a structured activity undertaken for fun" as a definition. This would not cover unstructured children's play, or indeed everything we call "computer games" (including most adventure games)â€"because I think those are genuinely slightly different things that just happen to be called by the same name. Similarly, I think there are mostly good reasons for what it includes (e.g. square dancing) and excludes (e.g. professional competitions).
Ah, so I did understand you correctly. Then I agree.  :-D

Quote from: Snarky on Fri 02/04/2021 12:34:28
If it's completely random then it is not meaningful. You have no more control over the outcome than you do when you roll dice. You have no real agency.

We can demonstrate this by a small alteration of the Snakes and Ladders rules. Let's say that before you throw the die, you have to pick a number A between 1 and 6, and then this number is added to the result of your throw, D. The spaces you move is then calculated as (A+D-1)%6 + 1; or to put it more simply, if the number is greater than 6, subtract 6, giving a result between 1 and 6. By this alteration, S&L is now a game according to your criteria (you have to make a choice each turn, and that choice affects the outcome)â€"indeed, very similar to rouletteâ€"but it's obvious that the change makes no meaningful difference, since the randomness of the roll means you have no control of the outcome, and so your choice is meaninglessly arbitrary.

Or take traditional Bingo (with pre-filled cards). There is no agency: you're at the mercy of the card you get and the numbers that are randomly drawn. The interactive, challenging element is to listen, pay attention, spot the numbers that are called on your card (or, more often, cards), and recognizing when you have completed a line. In other words, tasks that a computer could easily do automatically without your input in a computer version, and that amount to following the rules of the game. Those things are appropriately challenging for the audience, just as S&L is for its audience.
Good point. I agree completely. That's a potential hole in my definition.

Quote from: Snarky on Fri 02/04/2021 12:34:28
If anything, you've only showed that a fully computerized version of S&L would not be a game. It does not follow that the non-computerized boardgame is not a game.
THANK YOU!
You're the first person to finally make the argument that maybe it's only a game if it isn't computerized. That the act of doing something, is what makes it a game.
I disagree of course, because that would make changing the calendar on your fridge, a game. But that doesn't matter, since I've already agreed with you about there being multiple definitions. and yours being completely valid in this case.


Also, because I need to say this. Sorry for saying you hadn't thought about it. Clearly you have. I apologize.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Fri 02/04/2021 17:09:04
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 02/04/2021 15:56:13
Quote from: heltenjon on Thu 01/04/2021 23:13:37
Danvzare, your definition excludes games of chance. So, fair enough, by your definition, Snakes & Ladders isn't a game.
Does it actually exclude games of chance? Poker is a game of chance, yet choosing which cards to keep and which to not, is a meaningful decision. Based on what Snarky said, it does seem to though.
I meant games based on chance only, not games with elements of chance. Sorry for not expressing myself clearer.

Many kids' games are based on the same premise as Snakes & Ladders (rolling the dice and getting to the goal first), and quite a few other games have very limited choices to make. Game of Life, for instance, is clearly luck-dominated, but would make your cut. Barely.

Games like Poker, Yahtzee or Risk have high elements of chance, but there is enough skill involved that over time, the most skillful player will probably win the most number of games. But they won't win every time.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Fri 02/04/2021 21:38:09
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 02/04/2021 15:56:13
I disagree of course, because that would make changing the calendar on your fridge, a game. But that doesn't matter, since I've already agreed with you about there being multiple definitions. and yours being completely valid in this case.

Well, that was an unexpectedly pleasant response. Thanks, and I will happily agree to disagree.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 17/04/2021 14:50:51
I'm gonna say it:

It grinds my gears immensely that so many people still think Dimetrodon was a dinosaur.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Sat 17/04/2021 15:50:04
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 17/04/2021 14:50:51
I'm gonna say it:

It grinds my gears immensely that so many people still think Dimetrodon was a dinosaur.

:-[ *Bows head in shame, having made my kids play a certain Dimetrodon game when they had a dinosaur project in school*
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 17/04/2021 16:42:42
Quote from: heltenjon on Sat 17/04/2021 15:50:04
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 17/04/2021 14:50:51
I'm gonna say it:

It grinds my gears immensely that so many people still think Dimetrodon was a dinosaur.

:-[ *Bows head in shame, having made my kids play a certain Dimetrodon game when they had a dinosaur project in school*
Well, treat it as a learning opportunity to show them how the synapsid was different from dinosaurs!  :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 19/04/2021 16:55:52
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 17/04/2021 14:50:51
I'm gonna say it:

It grinds my gears immensely that so many people still think Dimetrodon was a dinosaur.
Well at least now there's at least one less person who thinks that.  :-D
(That person being me by the way.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Thu 22/04/2021 18:26:54

What grinds my gears is when people say "Professional Wrestling is fake!" when it isn't its scripted but yet they dont realize that TV Shows & Movies are scripted as well...

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 24/04/2021 09:09:30
Quote from: TheFrighter on Thu 22/04/2021 18:26:54

What grinds my gears is when people say "Professional Wrestling is fake!" when it isn't its scripted but yet they dont realize that TV Shows & Movies are scripted as well...

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Indeed, most reality TV either edit the participants to look more excaggerated, or straight up ask them to play up the drama to get views.

Heck, even nature documentaries have been guilty of editing random footage of different animals  of the same species together to make a "story" about one animal.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 25/04/2021 18:33:16
Quote from: TheFrighter on Thu 22/04/2021 18:26:54

What grinds my gears is when people say "Professional Wrestling is fake!" when it isn't its scripted but yet they dont realize that TV Shows & Movies are scripted as well...

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I know right, that grinds my gears too.
I'm not a fan of wrestling (I don't even like it), but saying "wrestling is fake" is like saying "operas are fake".
Congratulations, you've pointed out the obvious. Here's your redundancy trophy! (roll) It's annoying to say the least.  >:(
Besides, you've got to give wrestling credit for all of those stunts. Some of which are anything but fake.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sun 25/04/2021 23:20:12
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 25/04/2021 18:33:16
Besides, you've got to give wrestling credit for all of those stunts. Some of which are anything but fake.
That's very true too, pretty much all stunts need not only a lot of choreography but also require the stuntman to be in pretty good physical shape too, and regular training and rehearsing,
I'm not even a wrestling fan, but I can still acknowledge that it takes a lot of effort from the wrestlers to do their job at least somewhat safe, it's not a fighting game where you can just mash buttons
and respawn good as new after every K.O.

Plus there's plenty of ethical problems with asking people to fight for real just for the sake of entertainment. You'd think our society had moved beyond Roman gladiatorial combat.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Mon 26/04/2021 01:21:09
Everyone already knows that wrestling is fake, so pointing it out is meaningless.

But, I do appreciate where those people are coming from. The fact that wrestling is fake means that it is literally just a soap opera. What grinds my gears is why is a soap opera covered on a sports channel? And why do people pay money to fill up arenas or stay up til the early hours of the morning to watch a bunch of oiled up actors prancing around pretending to hit each other.

Don’t get me wrong, I used to be into wrestling when I was a kid. I also used to watch Eastenders, but I guess I grew out of both.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Mon 26/04/2021 16:24:17
Today, believing wrestling is real is like believing in Santa Claus, but isn't a big reason people go on about it â€" in addition to what Stupot says â€" that for a long time the industry insisted it was real, and quite a few people did believe it?

I could be quite wrong, but my impression is that when wrestling broke out big on TV in the 1980s, a lot of people initially thought the fights were real (even if some of the personas and outside antics were an act). By the 1990s more and more (probably most) fans were aware it was fake, but a considerable number of naive/younger fans still were not (I didn't watch wrestling as a kid, but I remember vociferous arguments about it in, like, middle school), and the industry worked hard to stamp out any public acknowledgment of the playacting. Then as the Internet spread, a lot of the "inside info" became more widely known â€" including a lot of the insider jargon, such as "kayfabe" itself â€" and the industry gradually gave up on keeping the "secret" in anything but a symbolic way.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Mon 26/04/2021 16:27:56
This is wrestling (Greco-Roman wrestling) and is a sport:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/DF-SD-06-11222.jpg/800px-DF-SD-06-11222.jpg)

This is wrestling (WWE) and is a show (not a sport):
(https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105297207-1530098255481gettyimages-952144666.jpg?v=1570463792&w=678&h=381)

I think that's what they mean when they say "wrestling is fake"... it's a show, that it's "sold" as a sport event.  (roll)

EDIT: Snarky posted while I was making my post... :) I agree with him, I'm guessing only kids/youth believe it's real these days.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Mon 26/04/2021 17:32:20
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Mon 26/04/2021 16:27:56

This is wrestling (WWE) and is a show (not a sport):

To be precise it's called professional wrestling, where the "pro" means that matchs are worked. It is a light disclaimer, but not many people use it.

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Mon 26/04/2021 17:53:45
Sorry. I misspell the shows name.  :-[
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 29/04/2021 16:42:21
Here's something that's been grinding my gears recently.
Shops: "We want you to social distance and keep 2m apart. We've all got to do our part."
Also shops: "We've reorganized all of the shelves so the only way out is either to walk against traffic in a long winded zig-zag pattern, or squeeze past everyone waiting in the queue. This is what you get for not buying anything!"
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Tue 04/05/2021 00:53:01
Local worry: In schools during the Covid-19 pandemic - keep a meter or two of distance. On school buses - sit right next to each other.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 06/05/2021 17:14:09
Quote from: heltenjon on Tue 04/05/2021 00:53:01
Local worry: In schools during the Covid-19 pandemic - keep a meter or two of distance. On school buses - sit right next to each other.
As we all know, you can't get infected when you're sitting down.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Thu 06/05/2021 20:05:08
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 06/05/2021 17:14:09
Quote from: heltenjon on Tue 04/05/2021 00:53:01
Local worry: In schools during the Covid-19 pandemic - keep a meter or two of distance. On school buses - sit right next to each other.
As we all know, you can't get infected when you're sitting down.  (laugh)
And sitting ducks advance in the queue for getting a shot.  :P (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sat 15/05/2021 02:34:34
What’s been grinding my gears lately.

There’s long been a sub-genre of tweets, memes, videos, gifs, etc. all about how annoying it is for creative people to be asked to do free work in return for ‘exposure’.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUs8wY92lkhD9lGsJifTS1hPykESeSQdX2IQ&usqp=CAU)

Now, I can understand how this is annoying and appreciate that creative people want it to be known that they have bills to pay and can’t work for free (although I don’t really like the attitude of these memes. What’s wrong with politely informing people that you do not work for free?).

The thing that is grinding my gears at the moment is an evolution of the above. Creative professionals are now stuck so far up their own asses that they won’t even field genuine requests from people who *are* willing to pay.

The video in the link below show’s some douche bag recreating a scene where someone first compliments their art and then asks them for their rate for commissions. The artist first refuses to give him the rate (?), and then when the interested party is predictably shocked by the rate, makes the other person out to be a right asshole.

https://twitter.com/papagaeio/status/1393371202115162113?s=21

Again, what’s wrong with just politely telling people ‘this is my rate, it might be a little higher than you expected because of a, b and c...’ That person will now learn what sort of price they might be looking at were they to then ask another artist a similar question.

Videos like this are just nasty and elitist. Not made to inform potential punters like me who might want to approach an artist for my board game project, for example. They’re just made to get likes and pats on the back from other artists.

Get over yourselves.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 15/05/2021 11:33:40
Quote from: Stupot on Sat 15/05/2021 02:34:34
The video in the link below show’s some douche bag recreating a scene where someone first compliments their art and then asks them for their rate for commissions. The artist first refuses to give him the rate (?), and then when the interested party is predictably shocked by the rate, makes the other person out to be a right asshole.
Seeing the video, no, the artist doesn't refuse to give the client his rate, he says that it depends on the project, and yeah, it kinda does. It's one thing if he's only asking for a small thing that could be done in an hour, another if there is a huge art piece that requires tons of expensive materials and takes weeks to make. I really can't fault the artist for being frustrated.

Sure, it's kind of bad the video doesn't specify what kind of work the artist does or what the client is asking from him, but as someone who's been selling stuff on Etsy for a while now, I can say that it is incredibly frustrating to see people with the mindset that creative people and artists
just love every single step in the process of their work, and can just magically conjure up fantastic stuff with zero effort or cost to themselves. I've tried many different crafts, resin, sewing, miniature making, and not only do the materials cost a lot if you want good quality, but pretty much all those things take several hours or even days to complete, and if you do it full time for a living, I'd say it's pretty understandable that an artist would want a day's wage for a day's work.

And not to mention that being able to find stuff for free online or buy incredibly cheap things made in china has warped people's idea of what things would actually cost in comparison to the work put in, good craftsmanship has always been expensive.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 16/05/2021 17:09:39
There's a few sayings that spring to mind "A fair day's wage, for a fair day's work.", "You don't get ought for nought." and the most popular one "Nothing's free."

The reason why some people aren't polite and don't simply say "I don't work for free." is because of the amount of harassment they've gotten from people who want stuff for free, not to mention the amount of people who want things done for dirt cheap. Anyone who provides any kind of service has had to deal with this. My father has a gardening side-business, and he complains non-stop about people wanting their gardens done for practically nothing. And the thing is, he is cheap! (Personally I think he should raise his prices, he's way too cheap.)

That all being said, you've got to be polite to your customers, no matter how annoyed you may get. That's one of the first rules for any business. So while I agree with you about them needing to be polite, I also agree with Blondbraid about them having every right to not be polite.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 09/06/2021 11:06:59
It grinds my gears that the popular depiction of unicorns has moved away from beautiful imaginative creatures, with a plethora of strange and fantastic traits like this;
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/fa/91/4dfa915c21bdbbf72a153002afb58fd2.jpg)
to tacky rainbow my little pony style creatures like this:
(https://sewingheartdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/unicorn-sitter-bl%C3%A5-5x7-2.jpg)
It's even gotten to the point some people even use the word "unicorn" as a synonym for "garish rainbow stuff".

It's just so frustrating to see what is a legit cool fantasy creature full of exciting potential basically be reduced to an ugly design that would look absolutely idiotic and out of place outside a pastel kids cartoon.
For comparison, imagine everyone just phased out all forms of cool dinosaurs from pop culture, until they were no longer associated with the majestic and impressive animals we'd see in works like Jurassic Park,
but instead, the only type of dinosaur known and spread among people who weren't huge paleontology nerds was this:
(https://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Barney-the-dinosaur.jpg)

And just FYI, I thought rainbow unicorns with big cartoon cow snouts were tacky and ugly even when I used to be a little girl in the intended target demographic.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Wed 09/06/2021 18:06:33

Same thing with elves, most of people think they are friendly bimbo charachters like this:

(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.8_y0MLEH8rSooFIr2VKPbgHaFz&pid=Api&P=0&w=207&h=163)

...but in the old tales they was ugly dirty bastards.

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Wed 09/06/2021 18:33:24
Or angels. There was probably a reason their first line most often is "Don't be afraid."
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 09/06/2021 21:52:23
Well, at least elves also got to be associated with beautiful yet badass Tolkien/DnD style characters. Legolas, anyone?  ;)

It seems that with most folklore creatures, like dragons, trolls, vampires, and ghosts, you have bowdlerized defanged kiddie versions,
but you also still have serious high fantasy depictions of them in lots of media, whereas with unicorns, it's like someone in the
the late 80s saw the legends saying that they could only be bested and tamed by maidens and decided "EeeeEwww Cooties!" and that
unicorns should be exclusively relegated to baby girl stuff ever since.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Wed 09/06/2021 22:08:52
Perhaps we need to make a game where the plot is that the killer unicorn needs to get rid of the four elephants stuck speared by its horn before it dies from the smell.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Crimson Wizard on Thu 10/06/2021 16:00:57
Erm, this cutenization thing is a global trend that spreads everywhere.

For example, this is a Zerg creatures from the Starcraft game:
(https://cdn.neow.in/news/images/uploaded/2017/04/1492600248_starcraft_hydralisk_story.jpg)


And then the game fans do things like this:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/0f/00/5b0f006197a9f271376514565327ece3.jpg

and like this...
https://www.deviantart.com/tessryne/art/Zerg-Hydralisk-751696275
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 10/06/2021 16:11:56
Quote from: Blondbraid on Wed 09/06/2021 21:52:23
Well, at least elves also got to be associated with beautiful yet badass Tolkien/DnD style characters. Legolas, anyone?  ;)

It seems that with most folklore creatures, like dragons, trolls, vampires, and ghosts, you have bowdlerized defanged kiddie versions,
but you also still have serious high fantasy depictions of them in lots of media, whereas with unicorns, it's like someone in the
the late 80s saw the legends saying that they could only be bested and tamed by maidens and decided "EeeeEwww Cooties!" and that
unicorns should be exclusively relegated to baby girl stuff ever since.
There are still plenty of depictions of proper majestic unicorns. Googling "Unicorn Statue" gives me nothing but results for the majestic kind. And this is from someone whose search history should give him Twilight Sparkle.  (laugh)
Take a look for yourself if you don't believe me. I don't get a cutesy unicorn until the 49th image. (Yes, I counted.)

The problem isn't that cutesy unicorns have completely replaced majestic unicorns, but that they're way more popular. If you say "unicorn" people are going to think of the cutesy one first.
And I completely understand why that grinds your gears. I remember when fast zombies had practically replaced slow zombies in the same way. But thankfully the success of The Walking Dead managed to revert that.



Also CW is right about how it's a global trend that spreads everywhere. For example, just look at Kobold... then look up Cutebold. The latter is a fan-depiction based on Dwarf Fortress. A game with terrifying unicorns by the way. Even in an environment like that, people can't help but make things look cute!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Reiter on Thu 10/06/2021 19:49:02
I would agree. The unicorn in general depiction is not what it was. Although cute and lovely versions of things are quite alright (and mostly quite inspired), it is impossible to not see that the cuteicorn phenomenon is greatly inflated. Still, other depictions remain, and as I have always been fond of unicorns (I got into fights over the matter in school, I recall, which is an amusingly ridiculous reason on reflection), it is pleasing to encounter them. I do not think the 'proper' unicorn is in danger of being 'forgotten' - provided that it is indeed depicted. Art - games - words. Let the unicorn in.
Dwarf Fortress unicorns, as Danvzare mentioned, are quite menacing, amusingly. They live in 'good' lands, but they were quite capable of wreaking havoc on your dwarfs, kicking and goring. They are less dangerous now, but they are still a threat, particularly since the elves (less wise and decidedly less nice in Dwarf Fortress than in most other depictions) use them as war beasts.

All together, I do hope for better days for the unicorn. There is so much one can do with them while retaining their majesty.
'Cute' things are not a problem - provided that the object of the cute renditions are not utterly overshadowed by a hollow cuddle-simulacrum with all meaning of the old sand-papered off. If nothing else, our children deserves better. And now I feel I must put my crowns where my mouth is, and make some sort of unicorn game.

On angels, it is important to remember that any rendition of them is a vain attempt to describe the indescribable and depict that which pictures cannot reach. Not that it is not worth attempting just because it is impossible, mind. Angels are not 'supposed' to be blazing, all-seeing wheels, but it is 'closer' to what they are than a chap with wings, although not one depiction can be held as more 'right' than the other. An angel unmasked is a terrifying thing, so it is little wonder that they come in veils. Place and purpose is what matters, and I do not think you can get a depiction more or less 'right', only more or less fitting.

Part of the confusion, of course, comes from the term 'cherub', which in modern popular speak is taken to mean exclusively a fat little babby with wings, rather than AWE IN BEING, as it were. Although I imagine that if Cherubim have a sense of humour, they find it most amusing. The little winged children, putti, meanwhile, are more than mere decorations in their symbology, of course. They are very old, and hold so many different meanings. Far more than an adorable 'down-grade' for Cherubim, although one cannot wonder that it has become an impression. Indeed, it is like what has befallen the unicorn; considered but a slightly tacky and sugary decoration. Somewhat vexing.

Now, hurrah for the magnificent unicorn - queen of beasts!

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Sat 19/06/2021 14:33:53
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 02/04/2021 15:56:13
I disagree of course, because that would make changing the calendar on your fridge, a game. But that doesn't matter, since I've already agreed with you about there being multiple definitions. and yours being completely valid in this case.

Dude, you can gamify anything.

So every morning my alarm goes off at 8:05.  It takes me a bit to get out of bed and make my way downstairs.  But if I can tear off yesterday's calendar date by 8:15 every morning, I win for the day.

I just scored a point for myself in my own little game of life by coming up with this reply.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 20/06/2021 15:23:57
Quote from: dactylopus on Sat 19/06/2021 14:33:53
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 02/04/2021 15:56:13
I disagree of course, because that would make changing the calendar on your fridge, a game. But that doesn't matter, since I've already agreed with you about there being multiple definitions. and yours being completely valid in this case.

Dude, you can gamify anything.

So every morning my alarm goes off at 8:05.  It takes me a bit to get out of bed and make my way downstairs.  But if I can tear off yesterday's calendar date by 8:15 every morning, I win for the day.

I just scored a point for myself in my own little game of life by coming up with this reply.

Yeah, I know. Snarky corrected me on it.  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Honza on Thu 24/06/2021 07:53:14
Has anyone seen the Netflix show Katla? It seemed great at first: a slow-burn, psychological sci-fi mystery with amazing atmosphere and cinematography. BUT...

The behavior of the characters in the show is *insanely* illogical and stupid. I'm not a stickler for these things, I'm usually perfectly fine with suspending disbelief and just enjoying the themes and atmosphere when logic takes a back seat. But this one takes all the frustrating contrivances from mystery shows like Lost and brings them to an entirely new level. People *never* ask the most basic questions. Nobody has a coherent conversation about anything - it's always a variation on "vague comment - vague response - pensive stare - leaves without a word." Ridiculous and disastrous misunderstandings ensue because none of these people seem capable of forming a sentence. It literally had me yell at the screen a few times, and then wonder if this is supposed to be some sort of dream reality, or if they are intentionally trolling the audience. I haven't been this frustrated with a piece of entertainment for a very, very long time.

Anybody with me? :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 24/06/2021 10:14:06
@Honza - I’ve been thinking of watching this. From the trailer, it seemed a bit like DARK, which is the best thing to come out of Netflix so far. Based on your review, I will lower my expectations. But if I watch it, I’ll share my thoughts.

By the way, everyone watch Dark.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Thu 24/06/2021 11:23:31
Funny you should mention it. My wife started watching Katla just today (first handful of episodes). I caught 20 minutes with her at lunch. Not enough to make any kind of judgement, but even the 20 minutes I saw fits your description exactly lol. More than one scene in some poorly lit room where vague questions meet vaguer answers. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 24/06/2021 12:36:37
I've never watched Katla, but I have encountered a few movies and TV shows that have had the same annoying thing. But I can't name any of them from the top of my head, so they couldn't have been that memorable.
From the sounds of things though, that Katla sounds like it takes things to an entirely different level. I felt myself getting frustrated from your description alone!  8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Honza on Thu 24/06/2021 15:10:14
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 24/06/2021 10:14:06
@Honza - I’ve been thinking of watching this. From the trailer, it seemed a bit like DARK, which is the best thing to come out of Netflix so far. Based on your review, I will lower my expectations. But if I watch it, I’ll share my thoughts.

By the way, everyone watch Dark.

I really enjoyed the first season of Dark, kept watching through the second, but then I gave up on it halfway through the third season - it became too convoluted, I realized that most of the time I had no idea what was going on anymore ;). Katla is similar to Dark in tone and atmosphere, but the story is much simpler and more straightforward. The plot could probably be condensed into one episode of Outer Limits.

A lot of people seem to enjoy Katla, it has surprisingly good reviews - so maybe give it a try regardless of what I said. There's a lot to admire about it if you can get past the way the characters (don't) communicate or even think clearly.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Sinitrena on Thu 24/06/2021 15:32:22
Quote from: Honza on Thu 24/06/2021 15:10:14
I really enjoyed the first season of Dark, kept watching through the second, but then I gave up on it halfway through the third season - it became too convoluted, I realized that most of the time I had no idea what was going on anymore ;).

https://dark.netflix.io/en  -  helps keeping track of people and relationships. You can choose season and episode to avoid spoilers. I didn't need it, but I binge-watched, which really helped, not too much time between episodes, so not so much stuff I could forget from one episode to the next or from season to the next.

I guess I'll give Katla a pass. People not properly talking to each other really annoys me in fictional characters. More than one otherwise good book was ruined by this for me.  (wrong)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Honza on Fri 25/06/2021 00:04:51
Quote from: Sinitrena on Thu 24/06/2021 15:32:22
https://dark.netflix.io/en  -  helps keeping track of people and relationships. You can choose season and episode to avoid spoilers. I didn't need it, but I binge-watched, which really helped, not too much time between episodes, so not so much stuff I could forget from one episode to the next or from season to the next.

That's a really well-made website! I think I could have made sense of it if I had been more invested, but the endlessly labyrinthine nature of the plot started feeling silly to me - it seemed to have reached a point where everything that could have been done had been done at least three times and nothing could surprise me anymore. I still respect the show, but if I want a story in the form of a Sudoku puzzle, I'll finally finish Obra Dinn instead :). Actually, come to think of it, Dark might be one of those rare cases of a story that would work better as a game.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 30/06/2021 14:02:24
It grinds my gears when someone leaves a voicemail, asking you to call back, and then quickly saying the phone number and hanging up.
I usually have to listen to the same message a dozen times just to be able to write down the number.
The audio quality already makes it difficult to understand the numbers. Saying it quickly doesn't help! And it's even worse when there's a long introduction before they get to the telephone number, so you have to spend even more time listening to the message.

Why can't people just say the number slowly, giving noticeable pauses every three or four numbers, and repeating it all at least once. That's what TV adverts do, and they actually have good audio quality!
Or better yet, leave a text!  >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Thu 07/10/2021 09:28:58
When people who are coughing and sneezing say "It's okay, I'm tested, it's not COVID". I'm vaccinated against COVID but not against the common cold. Could you please keep your germs to your self, no matter what illness?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 25/10/2021 11:20:21
Quote from: cat on Thu 07/10/2021 09:28:58
When people who are coughing and sneezing say "It's okay, I'm tested, it's not COVID". I'm vaccinated against COVID but not against the common cold. Could you please keep your germs to your self, no matter what illness?
I thought it was common sense even before Covid hit to sneeze in your elbow and not on other people.

Anyway, something that really grinds my gears is how the new TV series Squid Game seems to be spreading among kids. I haven't watched Squid Game (I got a bit squeamish reading that there'd be a scene with a man getting his eye gouged out of it's socket),
but from what I've seen it's similar to the hunger games/Battle royale in concept but with children's games instead of straightup gladiator fighting, so it's rather disturbing how I've seen not only reports of kids playing the games of the show and getting violent with
the kids who lose the games, (I've even heard it first-hand from a friend with her kid in elementary school) but a bunch of social media channels aimed at kids featuring squid game themed things (an otherwise kid-friendly crafting channel I followed suddenly made a video on how to make plushies of the squid game guards) and basically promoting an R-rated show to children. It's even ended up promoting straight-up animal abuse with people making animal videos of hamsters running dangerous obstacle courses and fighting "challenges":


It's insane how little monitoring goes into what kids watch and what gets to count as kid's content, but also how lax parents are with what their kids see and letting them onto social media unsupervised. Seriously,
AGE RESTRICTIONS EXIST FOR A REASON.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 25/10/2021 13:39:22
Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 25/10/2021 11:20:21
Quote from: cat on Thu 07/10/2021 09:28:58
When people who are coughing and sneezing say "It's okay, I'm tested, it's not COVID". I'm vaccinated against COVID but not against the common cold. Could you please keep your germs to your self, no matter what illness?
I thought it was common sense even before Covid hit to sneeze in your elbow and not on other people.

Anyway, something that really grinds my gears is how the new TV series Squid Game seems to be spreading among kids.

You'd think it would be common sense to sneeze in your elbow before Covid hit. But it certainly wasn't where I lived. I remember having to teach someone ELSE that, when doing a health and safety in the kitchen course.

As for Squid Game spreading among kids. Personally, I'm already on the hate-bandwagon, especially since I can think of half a dozen anime with the same premise, all of which were probably done better.
But now that you've mentioned it, it is kind of disturbing that kids are playing it when you think about it. I mean, I actually know of a school which played a form of it!  :-X

But, with that being said, even though I find it a little disturbing, I've got no problem with it. Mostly because kids are a bunch of scary psychopaths anyway. I should know, I have strong memories of my childhood. I remember always shooting the kid dead on Deus Ex, after giving him the chocolate bar and him giving me the code, because I wanted my chocolate bar!
Not to mention the dystopian stories I used to come up with... and that I didn't realize were dystopian until I reflected on them in my adulthood.

And while you might think that parents are being too lax nowadays, I personally think they're being too strict. I've heard of parents who won't let their kids watch superhero movies until a certain age, because they're too violent!
Meanwhile, here's my parents letting me watch horror movies when I was little kid. I think exposing kids to that kind of content (within reason of course), helps them learn the difference between fantasy and fiction before they're incapable of learning it (which in my opinion results in the type of people who say video games cause violence). But like you said, age restrictions exist for a reason. I mean, letting your kid onto social media unsupervised isn't exactly a great idea.
But hey, if it's become popular among kids, you aren't going to stop them from watching it. I remember cartoons from the 90s which had episodes covering that.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 25/10/2021 15:21:48
Well, I want to add that while I get where you're coming from, and I do think kids can handle more than people think they do, I still think there's a huge difference between having media aimed at kids
deal with dark or mature topics in a manner kids can understand, and letting kids have unsupervised access to adult media, often taken out of context to begin with.

Regarding facts and fiction, it's easy to say fiction doesn't affect you as an adult, but kids don't have fully developed brains.
Now, young kids might not be dumb enough to think all violence on the screen is real, but I think plenty of them are just grasping that the people in the show are actors, and they don't die for real, they are fine afterward,
but the kids don't get that the actors aren't physically fighting each other or doing dangerous things for real, and so don't understand that they can't do the things the actors do straight away with no safety precautions.

And sure, many kids have sociopathic tendencies, but much of it is exactly because they don't understand the consequences or implications of it yet, and waving it off can often make it worse.
Like with the animal video, I suspect most making such videos didn't even realize they were actually endangering them, and rather than educate them after the fact, it had probably been better
if they hadn't been given living animals to treat as toys to begin with until the pet shop had verified that they were mature enough to handle living animals without harming them. (wrong)

QuoteAs for Squid Game spreading among kids. Personally, I'm already on the hate-bandwagon, especially since I can think of half a dozen anime with the same premise, all of which were probably done better.
Well, I never liked people accusing the Hunger Games of being a ripoff of Battle Royale, because that, in turn, was drawing from Swords and Sandals movies with gladiator fights, which in turn was based on real history like the Romans.

What I do hate about Squid game though, is despite being so blatant with its anti-capitalist message and clearly trying to portray the titular game as wrong and depraved, looking at all social media peddling merch and activities based on the show,
they have failed miserably in conveying the message to the audience.

Say what you want about the Hunger Games, but at least I never saw a bunch of cheap children's toys based on the films or kids being encouraged to recreate the games on social media.

And as for social media, I don't think kids below 16 should have any, period. And any parents who disagree should read this comic:
(http://i.imgur.com/eTpBC.jpg)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Mon 25/10/2021 18:00:33
Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 25/10/2021 11:20:21

AGE RESTRICTIONS EXIST FOR A REASON.
Netflix doesn't have a parental control system?

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 25/10/2021 18:20:11
Quote from: TheFrighter on Mon 25/10/2021 18:00:33
Netflix doesn't have a parental control system?

_
If it has, too many parents evidently don't use it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Mon 25/10/2021 23:04:47
Squid Game is definitely not for kids I’ve only seen ep1, but yeah just on sheer body count and amount of  blood I would not encourage parents to let their kids watch it. Certainly not primary-aged kids, anyway. Secondary age may be a different matter. Like Dan, I was allowed to watch some pretty bad horror from a fairly young age and I actually thank my mum for that. She played it perfectly. There were still rules but my sister and friends lived near a video shop that didn’t care about the age ratings so we were allowed to discover our own limits and didn’t become Disney kids. Thank you, Mum.

As for the violent playground games, that’s nothing new. As long as no one is killed then it’s just a regular playground game, albeit with a new theme. If it does get particularly bad, schools will ban them just as  they banned British Bulldog when I was a kid.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Thu 28/10/2021 17:17:51
---when the forum is down, and I fell lost.  8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Thu 28/10/2021 19:49:11
Same here - I'm so glad they are up again!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 28/10/2021 20:44:28
Quote from: Stupot on Mon 25/10/2021 23:04:47
Squid Game is definitely not for kids I’ve only seen ep1, but yeah just on sheer body count and amount of  blood I would not encourage parents to let their kids watch it. Certainly not primary-aged kids, anyway. Secondary age may be a different matter. Like Dan, I was allowed to watch some pretty bad horror from a fairly young age and I actually thank my mum for that. She played it perfectly. There were still rules but my sister and friends lived near a video shop that didn’t care about the age ratings so we were allowed to discover our own limits and didn’t become Disney kids. Thank you, Mum.

As for the violent playground games, that’s nothing new. As long as no one is killed then it’s just a regular playground game, albeit with a new theme. If it does get particularly bad, schools will ban them just as  they banned British Bulldog when I was a kid.
Yeah, while the age you can handle films made for adults might vary, there's still a pretty huge difference between edgy teenagers seeking out such media because they know it's made for adults,
and their parents are ready to acknowledge that and talk to them about what they see and the content they consume, and lazy parents who just not care what their elementary school kids click on when surfing the web on their own.

Quote from: Cassiebsg on Thu 28/10/2021 17:17:51
---when the forum is down, and I fell lost.  8-0
Quote from: cat on Thu 28/10/2021 19:49:11
Same here - I'm so glad they are up again!
I'm glad I'm not the only one, these forums are one of the few places on the Internet where I can actually feel like there are worthwhile conversations going on.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Sat 30/10/2021 17:52:25
Quote from: Stupot on Mon 25/10/2021 23:04:47

If it does get particularly bad, schools will ban them just as  they banned British Bulldog when I was a kid.


Banned for what?  ???

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Matti on Tue 30/11/2021 23:38:21
What grinds my gears is when bicyclists drive on the sideway using one of those bright white lamps that shine horizontally, blinding everyone. Especially when it's an annoying strobe light! And even more so when they don't even ride the bicycle and just pushing it!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Wed 01/12/2021 12:41:14
Lol why a strobe light anyway? I’d imagine that would be annoying for them too?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Matti on Thu 02/12/2021 11:25:00
I guess people using them feel especially safe. I've definitely seen more of them over the last years.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Thu 02/12/2021 17:53:06
If they blind the drivers, that's not safer... a reflective vest and a normal bike light (with charged batteries) is good enough. Some bike helmets also have inbuilt lights that one can use as extra light.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 02/12/2021 22:15:18
Yeah, I’ve never understood the strobe light on a bicycle. How obnoxious do you have to be?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 09/12/2021 14:14:25
Ed Sheeran
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 09/12/2021 14:37:35
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 09/12/2021 14:14:25
Ed Sheeran
People who leave me in anticipation for the elaboration of their statement.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Thu 09/12/2021 15:33:02
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 09/12/2021 14:37:35
People who leave me in anticipation for the elaboration of their statement.  (laugh)

Couldn't resist   :grin:

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 09/12/2021 15:37:53
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 09/12/2021 14:37:35
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 09/12/2021 14:14:25
Ed Sheeran
People who leave me in anticipation for the elaboration of their statement.  (laugh)
No elaboration necessary. Ed Sheeran grinds my gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Thu 09/12/2021 17:54:17
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 09/12/2021 14:14:25
Ed Sheeran
But you've got to admit you love it when he does it like that?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Fri 10/12/2021 01:52:26
I'm not sure why or how I've received this blessing, but I can't name a single Ed Sheeran song, and it's possible I've never even heard one of his songs. I thought he sang that terrible "I'll be riding shotgun underneath the hot sun" song, but I just Googled and that's someone else.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 10/12/2021 04:46:40
I honestly couldn't put a name to any of his songs either, but I know I've heard them. It's like... they're okay, but they're not most-downloaded-on-Spotify okay, or most-viewed-on-YouTube okay. They're just like acceptable-pub-act-when-the-T-Rex-Tribute-act-wasn't-available okay.

And the way he keeps popping up in films and TV shows is just cringe. He really should learn to say no. He's only in [the God-awful] Red Notice (referencing his own appearance in Game of Thrones, no less) because Netflix made that film with with an AI algorithm and his name was inevitably spat out. I genuinely watched that scene through my fingers and realised maybe 7 minutes later that the cringe was still locked on my face. In fact, I'm doing it again as I type this.

Sorry, I said no elaboration needed. Whoops.

[edit: also... I keep getting told by Japanese people that I look like Ed Sheeran and I really don't. For a start, he's better looking than me.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Sinitrena on Fri 10/12/2021 08:00:57
And I thought Ed Sheeran was the only slightly decent part of Red Notice. At least the part with him had a hint of self-awareness. Ed Sheeran himself I don't mind. His face is too recognizable as 'Ed Sheeran' to every play a serious, non-cameo role and his music is pretty forgettable. When it comes to artists that grind my gears, there are a lot of better candidates.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 10/12/2021 08:50:00
It grinds my gears that everyone here is talking about Ed Sheeran like it's probably a normal thing people talk about all the time, and I have no idea who Ed Sheeran is.

But I'm gonna join in anyway:

Ed Sheeran? What kind of a stupid name is that? What does he do? Shear sheep or something? What an asshole.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Fri 10/12/2021 08:52:40
I had no idea who he is and had to google him. But I have to admit, there is indeed a slight resemblance :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 10/12/2021 10:09:14
Quote from: cat on Fri 10/12/2021 08:52:40
But I have to admit, there is indeed a slight resemblance :P

I must admit that I thought the same thing.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Fri 10/12/2021 11:36:33
I mostly hear Ed Sheeran's music because my kids want to listen to a top 40 channel on the radio in the car, so I'm not all that familiar with him. However, I like the songs and music videos "Perfect" and "Lego House" (starring Rupert Grint in the video)....speaking of resemblance... :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Fri 10/12/2021 14:22:09
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 10/12/2021 08:50:00
I have no idea who Ed Sheeran is.


Quote from: cat on Fri 10/12/2021 08:52:40
I had no idea who he is and had to google him.

Thank God - I was starting to think I was stuck in a parallel universe. I know his name, but as for knowing his music or recognising a cameo in other media...  ???
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Fri 10/12/2021 15:15:21
Quote from: Stupot on Fri 10/12/2021 04:46:40
edit: also… I keep getting told by Japanese people that I look like Ed Sheeran and I really don’t. For a start, he’s better looking than me.
Ouch, that's a heinous self-burn.

I didn't mind a few songs like "Shape of You" earlier on, but at this point I've heard them more than they're worth.  It's not bad music, it's just nothing special.

I agree, it's getting a bit annoying seeing him everywhere.  His cameo in 'Yesterday' at least felt appropriate, despite him being a bit of a knob in it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 12/12/2021 16:06:25
Quote from: milkanannan on Fri 10/12/2021 14:22:09
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 10/12/2021 08:50:00
I have no idea who Ed Sheeran is.


Quote from: cat on Fri 10/12/2021 08:52:40
I had no idea who he is and had to google him.

Thank God - I was starting to think I was stuck in a parallel universe. I know his name, but as for knowing his music or recognising a cameo in other media...  ???
I know who Ed Sheeran is, but I have been in quite a few conversations where people have been talking about celebrities I've never even heard of, as though everyone knows who they are. Most recently was about someone named Adel.
Who the heck is she?  ???
Assuming it's a she that is. From the conversation, it sounded like it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Sinitrena on Sun 12/12/2021 16:14:11
Adele.
She just released a new album after - ?some? - time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQHsXMglC9A
Probably her most famous song (skip ahead to about 1:30 - who the f... makes a music video that starts the music only after more than a minute?); she also sang 'Skyfall' (for the Bond movie).
I like her music.
But I do understand the sentiment. I don't know how often I was in the situation that people discussed some kind of 'star' and I had no idea who they were.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Sun 12/12/2021 16:26:40
I think perhaps this is partly because of our age, but mostly because of the media world we live in. With fewer channels on the tv and only live broadcasting, more people watched the same. Nowadays, we can pick and choose, meaning that I don't know anything about most "influencers" (which is a horrible word, worthy of its own grinding my gears post) or musicians performing in genres I don't listen to. Most tv shows with "celebrity specials" star people I've never heard of.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 12/12/2021 23:36:34
Quote from: heltenjon on Sun 12/12/2021 16:26:40
I think perhaps this is partly because of our age,

Yup, 'membering new stuff is hard. I stopped around 2005.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: dactylopus on Mon 13/12/2021 02:08:48
Quote from: Sinitrena on Sun 12/12/2021 16:14:11
Adele.
I'd check out "Rolling in the Deep" if interested.  More upbeat and all around better in my opinion.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Wed 15/12/2021 08:16:36
It grinds my gears when I see actual tweets of actual people defending Elon Musk.

I know he has fans, and probably millions of them, but I can live with that as an abstract bubble of people I'll hopefully never see let alone meet. Being reminded that these are actual, real people who feel the need to jump to the defense of a 12-year-old bald wannabe comedian who's also the richest person alive and exploiting his workforce is very depressing and annoying.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 15/12/2021 11:22:00
Yeah I’m also not very fond of Elon Musk. He’s certainly an interesting character but there’s something disconcerting about the number of people who swear by his every word. Most of what he comes out with is like Peter Molyneux on steroids (and LSD).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 15/12/2021 14:49:24
Quote from: Khris on Wed 15/12/2021 08:16:36
the richest person alive
I thought Jeff Bezos was the richest person alive.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Wed 15/12/2021 16:02:42
I'm guessing was is probably the keyword here.  (laugh)
According to the first google result (infopedia.com), he's 76 billion in front of good old Jeffy....
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Wed 15/12/2021 23:23:44
Elon on SNL was one of the cringiest things I’ve ever seen.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 17/12/2021 22:05:01
Quote from: milkanannan on Wed 15/12/2021 23:23:44
Elon on SNL was one of the cringiest things I’ve ever seen.

I think that's a part of the intended comedy of having non-comedians host the show. Check out the Stephen Segal clips to see true cringe.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 21/01/2022 03:42:13
This might make me sound really old but one thing that’s been grinding my gears lately is this.

(https://scontent-nrt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/268259429_1965950693805884_2206866772862311306_n.png?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=2d5d41&_nc_ohc=71Xa07RjNkUAX_BzhX1&_nc_oc=AQmkz4IPgqDxgt9xxFpI1Xjq5KkDSfZOTjpBi0R5ekTe8Xdh1wLmO7MdpLk-PAoN4ig&_nc_ht=scontent-nrt1-1.xx&oh=00_AT8oXF8eMnsE8HYLGGLIGrXlOcQL1RDcGZBmFKCXwIB03Q&oe=61EE97BA)

Once respectable brands such as Daedalic seem to be handing the keys to the social media accounts to any 12-year-old with access to a meme generator. Their page is full of this kind of thing. This is actually an example of one of the not-so-terrible ones.

https://m.facebook.com/daedalic/

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Fri 21/01/2022 15:34:43
I honestly don't understand what this pic wants to say.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 21/01/2022 20:02:15
Quote from: cat on Fri 21/01/2022 15:34:43
I honestly don't understand what this pic wants to say.

Me neither... it could either be saying that their new catalogue is "da bomb" or that they have ruined everything or that their games all have more excitement and are more action-based than before... probably the latter I guess?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 23/01/2022 21:50:05
What grinds my gears is the recently announced title for Amazon's Middle Earth series.

You know it must have taken a large committee months to settle on a name as stupid as "The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power."

There is no other possible explanation for such a cringe-worthy and redundant title.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Sun 23/01/2022 23:36:44
 :-D I just see the title of an episode: "The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power: The Hunt for the Power Ring".
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Mon 24/01/2022 00:20:45
It sounds like they’ve rebranded Cheerios.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 24/01/2022 08:54:15
Quote from: Stupot on Mon 24/01/2022 00:20:45
It sounds like they’ve rebranded Cheerios.

Hahaha
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 24/01/2022 13:57:45
Quote from: Mandle on Sun 23/01/2022 21:50:05
What grinds my gears is the recently announced title for Amazon's Middle Earth series.

You know it must have taken a large committee months to settle on a name as stupid as "The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power."

There is no other possible explanation for such a cringe-worthy and redundant title.
Wait what... is it based on the game by Naughty Dog?
[imgzoom]https://project2612.org/thumb.php?551[/imgzoom]

By the way, it's a fun game. Although crushingly difficult. You can easily lose during the tutorial fight.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Mon 24/01/2022 18:11:37

What grinds my gears is listening that John Badham' Saturday Night Fever (1977) is a movie about the crazies of disco-music.





Obviously the disco-music is the main ingredient, but not the only one.

It's a story about the intolerances, the women's emancipation, the failure of religion and other importants arguments. A musical drama indeed.

And to spit it all, Bee Gees are not so discoful as billed.

_
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Mon 31/01/2022 14:59:54
When people count "Ready, set……… go!" or "One… two… three…………………… go!" with an extra long pause before the go-ahead, as if the purpose of the count is to build suspense by letting you know the "go" is coming but not exactly when, instead of to help you anticipate exactly when the "go" will come.

Almost but not quite as bad is when the pauses between the count are ridiculously long, so that it becomes almost impossible to follow the rhythm with any degree of precision.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Fri 18/02/2022 14:34:42
When someone asks for help in the Hints and Tips thread, but puts the entire question in Spoiler tags. Then you have no idea if this is the same place you are stuck yourself, and must risk either asking something someone else asked before, or unintentionally reading about something occurring later on in the game if you reveal the spoiler. And you don't know if you can help, either, unless you have completed the whole game.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: eri0o on Fri 18/02/2022 14:37:20
Quote from: heltenjon on Fri 18/02/2022 14:34:42
When someone asks for help in the Hints and Tips thread, but puts the entire question in Spoiler tags. Then you have no idea if this is the same place you are stuck yourself, and must risk either asking something someone else asked before, or unintentionally reading about something occurring later on in the game if you reveal the spoiler. And you don't know if you can help, either, unless you have completed the whole game.

Hahahahah I thought it was just me.  :-D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 24/02/2022 08:02:27
There are too many damn thumbnails that depict disgusting boils, skin rashes, q-tips full of earwax, and other similarly disgusting things on online websites.

Even if they are thumbnails for whatever clickbait health solutions are meant to cure those things, I still don't want to see that explicitly depicted on a giant thumbnail
when scrolling by news articles on my phone (and even AdBlock and clicking "Stop seeing this ad" hasn't kept them from popping up).

Just what kind of disgusting people come up with such abominations?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 26/02/2022 02:22:25
Quote from: Snarky on Mon 31/01/2022 14:59:54
When people count "Ready, set……… go!" or "One… two… three…………………… go!" with an extra long pause before the go-ahead, as if the purpose of the count is to build suspense by letting you know the "go" is coming but not exactly when, instead of to help you anticipate exactly when the "go" will come.

Almost but not quite as bad is when the pauses between the count are ridiculously long, so that it becomes almost impossible to follow the rhythm with any degree of precision.

Hahahaha! I had never thought about this before. I think I grew up with teachers who always did the pause thing and that conditioned me to do it myself. I never stopped to think that the real reason for the prompting is to get the participants reasonably prompted to start the race at the same time.

I guess we are also conditioned to do this by movies and tv shows where the pause is there to create suspense for the audience.

Like the whole "time slows down" trope just before the race starts and we see the intent faces of the runners in close up.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sat 26/02/2022 09:32:24
People who whisper. It’s not cool. It doesn’t matter whether or not you are actually whispering about the other person in the room or not. If you are whispering to someone else and there’s another person in earshot, then you are a monster.

I’m not a paranoid person (usually - though I have my moments), but today two colleagues whispered something while I was going about my business. When I turned around, they looked a little shifty. Were they whispering about me? Maybe, maybe not. I don’t actually care. The fact that they whispered loud enough for me to hear that they were whispering at all is just rude.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sun 06/03/2022 23:21:59
Putin. That is all.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Reiter on Tue 08/03/2022 16:48:44
Here comes a double-billed mastodon post!

Some time ago, I wrote a piece that I did not publish before greater events made it obsolete, but I shall share its bones nonetheless for I think they are interesting.



The new Lord of the Rings thing is perfectly fine. Let us abolish the culture war.

Much have been made about the casting decisions for Amazon's recent expedition into Tolkien's works. As always, it is generally a lot of shouting and very little hearing. Frankly, while I am generally unimpressed by half-hearted measures presented as grand reforms, I have no wish nor heart to complain this time. Amazon made a big, expensive film production in 2022, that is what happened. They felt required to, as is the phrase, reflect how the world (America) actually looks like. It is no doubt for the best. It is an American production which will reflect American problems and attempt at an American solution.
It appears to be pretty well done, all together. It takes liberties, but well within reason, and the production company have not draped it in the stuffy air of righteousness and piety that can accompany such things. I do not think even Tolkien would have had much heart to complain, given the circumstances of the production. It is quite fine.

What I loathe, however, is the representation of this general shouting as a new front in the “culture war”, a most detestable phrase. One that makes culture and disagreement about culture utterly insufferable and, much worse, makes a mockery of war.

One can feel very strongly about culture and the multitudes that it contains ('Rule Britannia!' STAYS in the bloody proms and that is that!!!), but it is not war, and evoking that frightening spectre when discussing culture brings nothing but trouble and indignity. Say, if you disagree with me over the last night of the proms example above, I may believe that you are wrong, but we are not fighting, and we are most certainly not at war, and our disagreement can never be brought to the level of war. It is a very powerful incantation, and it has no use nor place if we mean to be civil and discuss a cultural matter. It is a magic that is wasted on cultural disagreements, and spoils them by raising the temperature well beyond the limits of a healthy discourse.

It is just as pointless and dangerous as declaring war on things and thoughts. Wars on drugs, poverty, terror... A powerful spell, but one that will always fail in the end. It is a frightening, thundering flood, a vast force that demands all that you have and all that you will not do. Mars will not be denied, and Mars ought not be so carelessly evoked where he does not belong.



This is what I had written, the day before the war. Mars would indeed not be denied, and now the flood has begun.

There is a lot of war-time grinding to share. From the thieves and fraudsters propping up this little tyrant to the spreading miasma of defeatism and lotus-eating, but I must start small. Such as the violence done on the innocent letter zulu.

In the Russian empire, the latin letter Z is being pressed into the service of tyranny.

It appears to have begun as an IFF procedure, for the ill-fated detachment Z during the invasion. Sprayed onto equipment to mark them as friendly forces for marauding jabos and helicopters. It has bemused the world, stencilled on the hesitantly advancing vans and lorries of a bungling army. Now, however, it appears to be germinating into a symbol of support for the war and for the tyrant.
Some who rally to the Z claim it is the symbol of Russians who are not ashamed thereof. A most peculiar banner, for in taking the symbol of heeresgruppe Z, its adopters are proudly claiming to be incompetent, brutal and cruel. If that is what one wants to be, then things such as shame and dishonour is so utterly alien as to be pointless. Their shame and pride alike thus made worthless.

However, to my mind this symbol now fulfils its original purpose â€" identification friend or foe. Those who cry zulu are certainly no friends of yours, mine, nor indeed any of the free peoples of Europe. Thee behind the Z; we are not, strictly, foes, but we are no longer friends. Living unfree liberates one from responsibility for the crimes of the dictator who asks not mind nor will, but holding the Z high is a pledge of support for this criminal war, it is agreement and ultimately culpability. It is not a matter of shame, it is a matter of war, and saying loudly that your neighbours deserves not their rights.
It is vexing because I am terribly fond of that letter. It is a good little letter, most underemployed. It has very harmonic lines. To see it reduced to a bastard child of the hooked cross to shore up the failings of a dying autocrat is infuriating. I cannot bear to see it tainted by villainy. And yet, of course, it is such a tiny little thing of a vast and soul-revolting crime, that I feel ashamed to be made so wild and heated over it.

Damn that wretched, shitty little villain. For greater and for smaller and for the puniest, like the violence done on my dear little Z. Lord knows where it will all end, and for so little. And yet, all things must end, and one would wish this ended sooner rather than later.

The Ides of March are coming. Let us wait, and let us hope.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 09/03/2022 20:50:07
Quote from: Mandle on Sun 06/03/2022 23:21:59
Putin. That is all.
I second that!!! Hate his guts!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Tue 15/03/2022 20:46:22
All game ideas seem to have been taken already  :~(

Some time ago I was thinking about making a game where the screen is completely black and you have to navigate solely by sound effects. When I was pointed to this excellent game (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/2298-blindsweeper/).

Then I thought about digging up my old game "Steamsquares" again (does anyone remember?) and giving it a complete revamp with also a new name and thought "well, Sliding Pipes would be nice!" so I googled it and there is exactly this game https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.gamees.qcpipes&gl=US (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.gamees.qcpipes&gl=US) (of course, I could argue that my first game version was released in 2009, but still...)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Pax Animo on Tue 15/03/2022 21:13:08
Quote from: cat on Tue 15/03/2022 20:46:22
All game ideas seem to have been taken already  :~(

I feel the same across all arts, it's very rare to come across something unique these days.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 16/03/2022 05:56:10
   If only I had unknown utterances
   and extraordinary verses,
   in a new language that does not pass away,
   free from repetition,
   without a verse of worn-out speech
   spoken by the ancestors!
   I shall wring my body for what is in it,
   â€" a release of all my speech.
   For what is already said can only be repeated;
   what is said once has been said;
   this is no vain boast of the ancients' speech
   that those who are later should find it good.

      â€"Khakheperraseneb the scribe, c. 1900 BCE
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Wed 16/03/2022 07:56:51
Haha, so true  :)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 16/03/2022 18:54:30
Quote from: cat on Tue 15/03/2022 20:46:22
All game ideas seem to have been taken already  :~(
That's why I never try to think of anything original, but instead try to take inspiration from others.
I find it better to look at art in the same way as writing an academic paper. Find your sources and improve upon the foundations they've laid.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Pogwizd on Wed 16/03/2022 21:18:45
Quote from: cat on Tue 15/03/2022 20:46:22
All game ideas seem to have been taken already  :~(

Yeah, I know what you mean. But this also reminds of all the horror games, both commercial and hobby ones, that are being released every day. There are literally thousands of them, and to me they all look pretty much the same. The story/dialogues often make little to no sense, whatsoever, and in all of them you walk about some dark areas with a flashlight that needs to be charged every now and again. Having watched dozens of them, I couldn’t believe how similar they are. But then despite all that, people still love them and want to play them. I think that what am trying to say is every time I dwell too long on the fact that I can’t come up with anything original, I think of the horror games. Maybe if the formula is right, it's ok to stick to it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Pax Animo on Wed 16/03/2022 22:01:06
Quote from: Pogwizd on Wed 16/03/2022 21:18:45
Quote from: cat on Tue 15/03/2022 20:46:22
All game ideas seem to have been taken already  :~(
I think of the horror games. Maybe if the formula is right, it's ok to stick to it.

I personally believe it comes down to what's trending at the given time. Survival/horror has been trending amongst indie game players and generally within the teen gamer age bracket for quite some time. Indie devs can knock up these games pretty quick which is evident due to the sheer volume of this genre product on the market.

As devs it's going to be situational to what we want to achieve, if your looking to make an easy buck then you'll be following closely on what's trending and focus your efforts on that particular genre whether you like it or not.

As for the hobbyist dev, you're going to be focusing on what you personally want to create and allowing your inner creativity to truly flow. In my opinion this is where we're going to possibly see something unique been created.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 17/03/2022 06:50:58
It grinds my gears that they changed something about Milo so it's no longer possible to have a "crunchy" version with a layer of the granules floating on top. They dissolve too completely now.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Thu 17/03/2022 08:30:52

What grinds my gears: lot of people including deejays think that this classic McFerrin's song is an hymne to optimism.
It's the opposite, an ironic song about the fake optimism of 80's.



_
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 17/03/2022 11:16:39
Quote from: cat on Tue 15/03/2022 20:46:22
Some time ago I was thinking about making a game where the screen is completely black and you have to navigate solely by sound effects. When I was pointed to this excellent game (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/2298-blindsweeper/).

Then you have probably never heard of Enemy Zero (https://www.mobygames.com/game/enemy-zero) and Real Sound (https://www.mobygames.com/game/real-sound-kaze-no-regret) from legendary creator Eno Kenji.

Enemy Zero was a survival horror game where the monster enemies never appeared on screen and you had to react according to audio cues. It was actually a rip-off inspired by Silent Debuggers (https://www.mobygames.com/game/silent-debuggers) on the PC-Engine. The game was also VERY (IN)FAMOUS for Eno pissing off Sony by announcing in a Playstation press conference that... it was for their rival's console, the Sega Saturn.

He then made Real Sound, which, was exactly what you described, a game with no screen output whatsoever and players needed to navigate by sound only, so the game was playable by blind people. (A later Dreamcast version did have scenery backgrounds though, which didn't change how it's played.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 17/03/2022 19:16:09
Quote from: Mandle on Thu 17/03/2022 06:50:58
It grinds my gears that they changed something about Milo so it's no longer possible to have a "crunchy" version with a layer of the granules floating on top. They dissolve too completely now.
For a moment I had no idea what you meant. But then I remembered a Czechoslovakian friend who introduced me to it.
It's basically just powdered chocolate right?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Thu 17/03/2022 20:17:52
Quote from: Gilbert on Thu 17/03/2022 11:16:39
Then you have probably never heard of Enemy Zero (https://www.mobygames.com/game/enemy-zero) and Real Sound (https://www.mobygames.com/game/real-sound-kaze-no-regret) from legendary creator Eno Kenji.

Enemy Zero sounds awesome. Real Sound is described as visual novel but audio only, which doesn't appeal to me.

In the game I had in mind, you would play as a blind person. You would have to walk through a town, navigating only by sounds - like the noise of your stick, a dog barking, cars passing by,... but I figured it would be too difficult without tactile interaction.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Pax Animo on Mon 21/03/2022 20:34:40
What grinds my gears: People that don't wash their hands after using the toilet or before eating. The amount of people I witness that use public toilets and simply walk out without taking a moment after doing their business is staggering, from a male perspective its around 8 out of 10 people which don't bother to wash their hands.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Tue 22/03/2022 10:35:05
Quote from: Pax Animo on Mon 21/03/2022 20:34:40
What grinds my gears: People that don't wash their hands after using the toilet or before eating. The amount of people I witness that use public toilets and simply walk out without taking a moment after doing their business is staggering, from a male perspective its around 8 out of 10 people which don't bother to wash their hands.

Wow where do you live with numbers like that? Yeah that infuriates me too, but it's thankfully a rare sight where I am.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 22/03/2022 19:45:21
Quote from: Pax Animo on Mon 21/03/2022 20:34:40
What grinds my gears: People that don't wash their hands after using the toilet or before eating. The amount of people I witness that use public toilets and simply walk out without taking a moment after doing their business is staggering, from a male perspective its around 8 out of 10 people which don't bother to wash their hands.
Agreed, that grinds my gears too.
People just don't have basic hygiene!  :-X
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Pax Animo on Tue 22/03/2022 21:47:59
Quote from: milkanannan on Tue 22/03/2022 10:35:05
Wow where do you live with numbers like that? Yeah that infuriates me too, but it's thankfully a rare sight where I am.

Englands so called second city, well just outside but yes its certainly not the cleanest of places.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 23/03/2022 02:53:28
Yeah it’s disgusting. It’s surprising quite common in Japan too. Often while I’m washing my own hands, I’ll witness someone who’s just finished their business walk straight past the sinks without even looking. A few weeks ago it happened in a shopping center toilet and as this guy walked out I audibly went “eeeeuuuuurggghh!” to shame him. Haha.

Also I once worked in a junior high school here, and the Principle himself did the same thing. Which was funny because that school had a big thing about making sure the kids all washed their hands often.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Wed 23/03/2022 03:20:22
At the risk of shaming myself  :=, if I simply need to use the urinal, I try my best not to touch anything in the bathroom- I elbow open the door, walk to the urinal, unzip, urinate, zip up, and not having handled anything (on myself or in the bathroom, sometimes skip the handwashing (avoiding touching more stuff).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 23/03/2022 05:56:05
 â€œeeeeuuuuurggghh!”   :-*
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Wed 23/03/2022 07:09:27
Quote from: Babar on Wed 23/03/2022 03:20:22
At the risk of shaming myself  :=, if I simply need to use the urinal, I try my best not to touch anything in the bathroom- I elbow open the door, walk to the urinal, unzip, urinate, zip up, and not having handled anything (on myself or in the bathroom, sometimes skip the handwashing (avoiding touching more stuff).

The mechanics of a touchless 'urinate' step have me confused.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Wed 23/03/2022 07:44:11
Quote from: milkanannan on Wed 23/03/2022 07:09:27
The mechanics of a touchless 'urinate' step have me confused.
I...this conversation is weird now. I just went to the restroom now to make sure what I was talking about (and washed to make you all happy, although again, I hadn't touched anything- still at least I know the office bathroom is cleaned regularly).
I don't really need to "direct" or aim, since my neutral position already aims at the base of the urinal. At what point would I need to be touching?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Wed 23/03/2022 08:12:00
This reminds me about the Seinfeld episode where Seinfeld and Kramer are washing up in the restroom of a pizza restaurant, and the pizza chef comes out of a stall and walks out without washing. They somewhat lose their apetite...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Pax Animo on Wed 23/03/2022 08:18:03
Quote from: heltenjon on Wed 23/03/2022 08:12:00
This reminds me about the Seinfeld episode where Seinfeld and Kramer are washing up in the restroom of a pizza restaurant, and the pizza chef comes out of a stall and walks out without washing. They somewhat lose their apetite...

I was only just thinking about an incident at a pub I visited, the chef walked out of the cubicle and did a half hearted 2 second rince under a cold tap, (no soap) and off he went, plus I reckon he only did that because he seen someone else was using the facilities or he'd of just walked straight out.

Also reminds me of The only fools and horses episode (the jolly boy's outing), Del and Rodney are in the public toilet speaking with Eddie chambers who uses the urinal and then proceeds to shake Del's hand.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Fri 25/03/2022 20:55:43
Quote from: heltenjon on Wed 23/03/2022 08:12:00
This reminds me about the Seinfeld episode where Seinfeld and Kramer are washing up in the restroom of a pizza restaurant, and the pizza chef comes out of a stall and walks out without washing. They somewhat lose their apetite...

and THAT reminds me of when I had mandatory internship in high school. I was at a pizza place and I remember one time when I saw one of the bakers pick his nose and then resumed baking. I got free food of course but I can't say that I was particularly happy when he asked "Do you want your pizza now?"
"Ummmm....no?" :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 01/05/2022 12:20:02
It grinds my gears whenever someone who doesn't understand the appeal of a certain type of gameplay, decides that it's because that type of gameplay is now dated and a good example of bad game design, rather than because it's not to their taste.
Two really good examples are the inventory item puzzles on Adventure Games and the turn-based combat prevalent in JRPGs.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Sun 01/05/2022 18:16:18
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 01/05/2022 12:20:02
It grinds my gears whenever someone who doesn't understand the appeal of a certain type of gameplay, decides that it's because that type of gameplay is now dated and a good example of bad game design, rather than because it's not to their taste.
Two really good examples are the inventory item puzzles on Adventure Games and the turn-based combat prevalent in JRPGs.
I think the problem is that there are so many go-to bad examples for both that are much more famous, that people aren't aware that it doesn't make them intrinsically bad.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 06/05/2022 09:04:46
Why do so-called "sing-along" or karaoke videos on YouTube only ever display each line at the point the line begins in the song? This renders it impossible to even try to "sing-along" to the song unless you already know it. But if you already know it, you don't need to see the lyrics in the first place?

Would it hurt them to bring up the next line just a few milliseconds early to give people a chance? Even just the first word of the next line would make a world of difference.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 07/05/2022 06:47:48
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 01/05/2022 12:20:02
It grinds my gears whenever someone who doesn't understand the appeal of a certain type of gameplay, decides that it's because that type of gameplay is now dated and a good example of bad game design, rather than because it's not to their taste.
Two really good examples are the inventory item puzzles on Adventure Games and the turn-based combat prevalent in JRPGs.
Indees, it oftentimes feels like there are too many people with zero patience who seem to think all games should be like something you could play at an arcade.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Fri 13/05/2022 08:15:16
"It's not a remake, it's a new adaptation of the source material."
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Fri 13/05/2022 12:23:06
"It's the traditional recipe... new & improved.   :undecided:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Sat 28/05/2022 13:43:13
When sliced foods (cured ham, smoked salmon, etc.) come in packages arranged so that the topmost slices are on the opposite side of the side that opens. It's a small "fuck you" to the customers.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Sat 28/05/2022 15:00:27
Quote from: Snarky on Sat 28/05/2022 13:43:13
When sliced foods (cured ham, smoked salmon, etc.) come in packages arranged so that the topmost slices are on the opposite side of the side that opens. It's a small "fuck you" to the customers.

I HATE that!   :angry:
Some cheese slices are packed like that, as well.  It does my head in. 
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 28/05/2022 16:13:50
Similar thing here in Japan at convenience stores.

They sell fried chicken drumsticks which they put in paper bags.

The bags have a perforated tear-off line about two thirds of the way down.

The way it's supposed to work is that you tear off the top of the bag and gnaw on the drumstick while holding the base of the bone wrapped in the smaller part of the bag that is left.

This is the system that is designed so that you never have to touch the actual drumstick and get your fingers greasy.

But 9 times out of 10 the staff puts the drumstick into the bag top first, which means you have to pull it back out and put it back in so that the bone end is in the right place to tear off the bag.

And then the entire reason for the bag is gone.

The worst part is that on the back of the bag there is a diagram showing the buyer how to use the bag properly.

But the staff have never looked at the diagram.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sat 28/05/2022 16:40:09
They probably just do it on purpose...  (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: AndreasBlack on Sat 28/05/2022 20:39:07
This is probably an oldie, but when McDonalds delivers their "highcost meals" without paper around the hamburger and in a paperbox. Jesus Christ, how many trillions of dollars are they making and yet you get a hamburger with no paper around it with lots of lettuce and such that falls out of the hamburger almost instantly when you pick it up?   :-D

What's even weirder is the fact that they usually have papers around cheaper alternatives like the cheeseburger. I never understood that, anybody that knows the answer, please let me know. The answer is probably a googling away but still. (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sat 28/05/2022 23:33:25
Quote from: Mandle on Sat 28/05/2022 16:13:50
Similar thing here in Japan at convenience stores.

They sell fried chicken drumsticks which they put in paper bags.

The bags have a perforated tear-off line about two thirds of the way down.

The way it's supposed to work is that you tear off the top of the bag and gnaw on the drumstick while holding the base of the bone wrapped in the smaller part of the bag that is left.

This is the system that is designed so that you never have to touch the actual drumstick and get your fingers greasy.

But 9 times out of 10 the staff puts the drumstick into the bag top first, which means you have to pull it back out and put it back in so that the bone end is in the right place to tear off the bag.

And then the entire reason for the bag is gone.

The worst part is that on the back of the bag there is a diagram showing the buyer how to use the bag properly.

But the staff have never looked at the diagram.

To add to this, they also seal the paper bag with a small piece of tape, except they invariably put the tape over part or the perforated line, making it harder to cleanly rip the bag open.

This kind of thing should be common sense but I’m afraid in Japan common sense is secondary to just literally following the guidelines. There is a piece of paper somewhere telling them to put the chicken in the bag and then to seal the bag with a piece of tape. But I’m guessing the guideline doesn’t specify that they should put the chicken in the right way diwn and to avoid putting the tape over the perforated line. And unfortunately, if it’s not written down then it just won’t occur to many people here.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 20/06/2022 18:55:50
It grinds my gears that people seem to have a hard time accepting that I'm not interested in getting and playing Elden Ring.

And as soon as I say it, the discussion turns into "Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior Elden Ring?".
Well, I've seen footage, I've seen reviews and I've watched friends play it and talk about it, and I'm still not interested.
I'm not into souls-like games, I don't like George RR Martin, I despise grimdark fantasy, I'm really tired of games where
the majority of the areas in-game are grimy and decaying, and where I'm at in my life, I'm actively trying to avoid big open-world games
designed to keep the player in a gameplay skinner box for hours on end.

Look, I can see why other people might really, really like the game, as I can also see why some people like classics like Planescape Torment
or Shadow of the Colossus, both massively praised and popular games I did try, and I didn't like them either, and I think that there can be no such thing
as a game for EVERYONE, because everyone is different and there's always going to be outliers.

And while I may not like Elden Ring, I do like pineapple on pizza, but I'm not going to nag somebody who dislikes pineapple to try it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Tue 21/06/2022 17:05:11
Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 20/06/2022 18:55:50

I do like pineapple on pizza


Well, that's what grinds my gears!  :-D

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Tue 21/06/2022 23:09:35
Why?

pineapple on pizza rules!  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Wed 22/06/2022 04:50:18
I’m going to a children’s ‘make a pizza’ birthday party at an Italian place on the weekend and I joked with the host about adding pineapple to my pizza. Apparently the restaurant has a ‘no pineapples allowed’ policy. ??? I’m actually tempted to sneak a tin of pineapples in and covertly add them right before my pizza gets put in the oven. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 22/06/2022 10:02:02
How ridiculous. I never got why the ‘pineapple on pizza’ thing became such a debate. People either like a thing or they don’t. People only have such strong opinions about it because it somehow arbitrarily became a ‘the thing everyone has to broadcast their opinion about’. There’s another universe somewhere exactly like this one except everybody debates whether or not you should be allowed put cinnamon in a latte (something I hate but enough people seem to enjoy).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Wed 22/06/2022 10:06:37
Yeah it is super weird. Purists ruin everything.

Cinnamon in a latte sounds like it would be pretty good. Maybe I'll give that a go!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Sinitrena on Wed 22/06/2022 14:24:34
I like pineapple on pizza, and nobody should care about what anyone likes or doesn't like (for all things, not just what's on your pizza). But there's one legitamte reason why you might want to discuss it: Shared pizza - half so, half so. You just can't stop the pineapple juice from dripping into the other section and this might lead to some weird taste. Though, why anyone would only get half a pizza when they can get a whole one, I'll never understand.  :=
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 22/06/2022 16:26:46
Pineapple on pizza is delicious 😁
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Wed 22/06/2022 22:10:02
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 22/06/2022 10:02:02
How ridiculous. I never got why the ‘pineapple on pizza’ thing became such a debate. People either like a thing or they don’t. People only have such strong opinions about it because it somehow arbitrarily became a ‘the thing everyone has to broadcast their opinion about’. There’s another universe somewhere exactly like this one except everybody debates whether or not you should be allowed put cinnamon in a latte (something I hate but enough people seem to enjoy).
Quote from: Sinitrena on Wed 22/06/2022 14:24:34
I like pineapple on pizza, and nobody should care about what anyone likes or doesn't like (for all things, not just what's on your pizza). But there's one legitamte reason why you might want to discuss it: Shared pizza - half so, half so. You just can't stop the pineapple juice from dripping into the other section and this might lead to some weird taste. Though, why anyone would only get half a pizza when they can get a whole one, I'll never understand.  :=
(https://i.imgur.com/lNUh0uV.gif)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 28/06/2022 10:38:27
When you mention a horror movie or that you like horror movies to someone and they say, with an air of superiority, "Oh, I don't watch horror movies."

I want to say to them "fair enough, but being ignorant on any subject in no way makes you superior, twat."

(and also... "I don't watch horror movies" immediately disqualifies the person from having any further opinions about them, but they always do and it's always regurgitated garbage they absorbed from the media)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Tue 28/06/2022 12:53:18
Quote from: Mandle on Tue 28/06/2022 10:38:27
When you mention a horror movie or that you like horror movies to someone and they say, with an air of superiority, "Oh, I don't watch horror movies."
Too bad, they're missing out some glorious metaphors for the fears in our society.
(And I'm only half kidding.)

I remember a lecture from a scholar who actually had changed his mind about horror movies after accidentally eavesdropping on some enthusiasts who were discussing which of the three first Alien movies they preferred.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 28/06/2022 16:58:10
Quote from: Mandle on Tue 28/06/2022 10:38:27
When you mention a horror movie or that you like horror movies to someone and they say, with an air of superiority, "Oh, I don't watch horror movies."
Wow, I've never encountered that before. 8-0
Usually they just tell me that they don't like horror movies, probably because they don't like gory and/or scary situations. Which I can completely understand.

If I did encounter someone like that, I'd probably give them some equally stupid statements of superiority like: "Oh, you don't watch horror movies? How quaint. I personally don't watch soap operas, which is a far more inferior form of entertainment."
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Tue 28/06/2022 20:45:02
I agree with the above about horror movies. Another thing that grinds my gears is when ignorant people says something like"Death metal sucks! It's just people hitting/slamming their instruments" I totally understand if people don't like it but it takes a shitload of talent to play that kind of music no matter what you think of the genre.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 28/06/2022 23:27:55
Quote from: heltenjon on Tue 28/06/2022 12:53:18
Too bad, they're missing out some glorious metaphors for the fears in our society.
(And I'm only half kidding.)

I didn't think you were joking at all. That is exactly correct!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 29/06/2022 06:42:30
It grinds my gears a little when people say they don't watch horror "because it's scary". I mean there's so much wrong with that excuse. Firstly, not all horror is actually that scary. There are so many films in the genre which I would not say particularly scared me but which I still loved because they were very interesting (Hereditary, for example) or just fun. Secondly, is being scared so bad? I'm in my late-thirties and I still sometimes get a bit nervous flushing the toilet at night after watching a horror film. That's great, that means the film did its job. To avoid a good film because "it's scary" is childish. In fact its worse than childish because even children have the guts to mess about with seances and stuff before they're old enough to know ghosts aren't real.

(I'm aware my complaint doesn't take into account grown adults who still think ghosts are real and avoid horror out of genuine spiritual fear. I think these people are missing out. I'm sometimes jealous of these people because horror films - especially ghost stories and exorcism horrors - must be that much more effective on them, if they allow themselves to watch them.)

The only group I can forgive are people who have genuine trauma that can be triggered by the themes often found in horror movies. I wouldn't want to force anyone to watch something that could trigger PTSD or something. Having said that, I'm pretty sure a lot of us horror-lovers have traumas of our own that actually drew us to the genre in the first place. Also, I get that some people with weak hearts might have to avoid films that might startle them

I also understand that people are squeamish of blood and gore, and I can fully get why some people don't want to watch (e.g.) the Saw franchise. But that's not a reason to avoid the entire horror genre. And again, the Saw films aren't really scary, they're just gross (and fun).

Like I said about the pineapple pizza, everyone's entitled to their preferences, and I'm not trying to tell people what to watch.  It's just the "...because it's scary" part that I have beef with. That is not a good excuse.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Wed 29/06/2022 08:08:58
It grinds my gears that some people can't accept that some other people just don't enjoy some movie genres they like.

Why is wrong not wanting to watch scary movies? Maybe some people don't enjoy being scared. I do neither.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 29/06/2022 08:11:10
Very well said, Stupot! Now, can I interest you in starring in the role of a sleazy gaijin in Japan who lures innocent women from nightclubs to his apartment to kill them in a short horror film I have had in mind for about 10 years? I think you would actually fit the role perfectly. Ummm, that was supposed to be a compliment on what I imagine your acting skills are like.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 29/06/2022 08:13:56
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 29/06/2022 06:42:30It's just the "...because it's scary" part that I have beef with. That is not a good excuse.

Well that's a bad take.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 29/06/2022 09:23:42
I don't see Stupot anywhere in here calling anyone else out for posting something in a thread that is all about venting gripes just to get some release from personal frustration.

This is AGS, guys, not the rest of social media. He didn't call anyone out personally, so why is he getting called out?

Not the point of this thread at all.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 29/06/2022 10:48:22
OK then. Like cat, it grinds my gears when people cannot understand that an experience or sensation that is pleasant to them may not be pleasant to others, and attack them for it.

"It grinds my gears when people say they avoid spicy food, because first of all, a lot of so-called 'spicy' food isn't really all that spicy, and besides, what's so bad about a little burning in your mouth? That just means it's achieving its goal. They shouldn't be so childish! I don't have a problem with people who have food allergies or a medical condition, but 'too spicy' is a bad excuse."

"It grinds my gears when people say they don't go to clubs because they don't like loud music and crowds of people pressed tightly together, because not all clubs are like that, and anyway there's nothing wrong with feeling your body crushed by sweaty, dancing people: that's the fun of it! Get over yourself! The only people I can forgive are those who have experienced personal trauma like a mass panic where people were crushed to death, so that it triggers their PTSD. Anyone else has no excuse."

Those are bad takes. So is the one about scary movies.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 29/06/2022 11:44:03
Well, my point was that this is a silly blowing-off-steam thread and not a place to start the usual social media practice of going after people for what they said, unless it is particularly offensive in some way.

Stupot didn't direct his comment at anyone in particular so why is he getting backlash for his comment, and potentially turning this thread into an argument for the next three pages?

It's a thread to just read and then just move on if you have opposite opinions over inconsequential stuff.

We are AGSers. We are better than Facebookers.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Wed 29/06/2022 12:35:57
No worries, my rant was not directed only at Stupot but at some of the recent posts regarding horror movies. I already considered to write something before Stupot posted but then I had to.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Wed 29/06/2022 15:19:47
The key phrase here is the "air of superiority". The same could be said of anyone who dismisses something one likes as something beneath them, whether it's science fiction or playing computer games, interest/lack of interest in sports or cars or what have you. There's no problem if someone says "I prefer musicals". To each their own. You don't need an excuse for something at all, in my opinion. Although in my country, not being outside if it's sunny or not being overtly fond of hiking in the mountains or not being into skiing are all met with expectations of an explanation. Which could probably grind my gears a bit, too.

I remember when I was a teenager, my dad was worried because I read horror books that I would turn into a satanist. (I've never looked the part, just to say that!) I replied that I also read westerns...was he equally concerned that I might turn into a native American? Turned out he wasn't.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 29/06/2022 16:30:44
I’m under no illusion that none of my takes are bad takes. I’m no doubt full of them. As is most this thread. I thought this was supposed to be a place to dump our stupid little grumpy peeves, no matter how irrational. I agree I could have dialed it down with language like “childish”, but I’m playing along with the grumpy Grindy-Geary tone of the thread. I’m certainly not intending to attack anyone.

That said, I still stand by the point I was (apparently badly) trying to make.

To refer to Snarky’s spicy food analogy. My beef is not so much with “I don’t like spicy food”. (That is a preference, and I already went to pains in my previous post to clarify that I’m not against people having different preferences.) It’s more the people who say “I don’t like curry *because it’s hot*”. The fact that curry is generally designed to be somewhat hot does not mean people who don’t want to eat hot food should dismiss an entire cuisine. There are some great dishes with little to no hotness that won’t burn your head off, but that still fall under the category of curry, and I feel like those people are missing out on some interesting flavours.

How’s that for a bad take-away?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 29/06/2022 21:00:16
Quote from: cat on Wed 29/06/2022 12:35:57
No worries, my rant was not directed only at Stupot but at some of the recent posts regarding horror movies. I already considered to write something before Stupot posted but then I had to.

Ah, gotcha... totally understandable. It just looked that way, but I understand that you didn't intend it too.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Thu 30/06/2022 09:47:42
@Stupot, ah, I think I get you. While I don't like movies that try to scare people, I like splatter comedies, that probably could also get the label "horror". (And no matter how often I watch Staplerfahrer Klaus (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAHzP4umE4M), it will always make me laugh).

Peace ☮️
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Thu 30/06/2022 11:26:18
Stupot, I think the curry analogy doesn't quite work because horror movies as a genre, more or less by definition are about instilling some sort of fear in audiences. The fear may be more or less intense, but I think it's pretty clear that even if you don't find e.g. Hereditary particularly scary, it is meant to instill fear (and personally I found it "the right amount" of scary for my taste). Movies that don't even try to be scary (like many "horror comedies") aren't really horror movies. So in terms of curry, it would be more like getting annoyed at people who avoid it because they don't like sauce dishes than people who avoid it because it's too spicy.

All that aside, in the second prong of your argument you were clearly arguing that people should enjoy movies that are scary, not just non-scary "horror" movies.

We could debate it back and forth, but it isn't really to the point. Your grumpy peeve, or perhaps just the way you articulated it, triggered one of my grumpy peeves, and I stand by it. (I think I've expressed similar sentiments a number of times before on the forums, when people have insisted e.g. that non-adventure game fans are prejudiced, wrong or inferior for not enjoying the genre.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Thu 30/06/2022 16:41:02
*tries to lighten the mood* 


What grinds my gears, is those foil sheets of pills you get from the doctor.  Usually 10 or 12 pills in a sheet. 
Each pill is sealed in it's own separate 'pouch' in the sheet.  And when you open the 'pouch' to get the pill, the pill ALWAYS breaks in half!  Grrr!   :cool:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 30/06/2022 17:02:48
Quote from: Frodo on Thu 30/06/2022 16:41:02
*tries to lighten the mood* 


What grinds my gears, is those foil sheets of pills you get from the doctor.  Usually 10 or 12 pills in a sheet. 
Each pill is sealed in it's own separate 'pouch' in the sheet.  And when you open the 'pouch' to get the pill, the pill ALWAYS breaks in half!  Grrr!   :cool:

Fun fact, those foil sheets are there to prevent you from overdosing.
Apparently the solution to accidental suicide is to make it inconvenient. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Mon 04/07/2022 08:19:54
I got a new job so I'm in a different city to get some education before getting started and the gear-grinder here is the hotel breakfast. The worst I've ever had...bread and rolls seems store bought, hard bread is kind of soft, the bacon is soft and appear to only have been in the oven for like 2 minutes and the sausages looks like my great grandma, but even more wrinkled
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Thu 07/07/2022 22:11:07
When people repeat jokes that have been run into the ground. In particular:

"I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you."
"Actually, it's only X if it's from the X region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling [description of X]."
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Fri 08/07/2022 05:12:22
Quote from: Snarky on Thu 07/07/2022 22:11:07
When people repeat jokes that have been run into the ground. In particular:

"I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you."
"Actually, it's only X if it's from the X region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling [description of X]."

Isn't that sometimes the point of such jokes (I suppose not in the examples you gave, though)? To overdo something to the point of hilarity?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 09/07/2022 12:20:01
Quote from: Snarky on Wed 29/06/2022 10:48:22
OK then. Like cat, it grinds my gears when people cannot understand that an experience or sensation that is pleasant to them may not be pleasant to others, and attack them for it.

"It grinds my gears when people say they avoid spicy food, because first of all, a lot of so-called 'spicy' food isn't really all that spicy, and besides, what's so bad about a little burning in your mouth? That just means it's achieving its goal. They shouldn't be so childish! I don't have a problem with people who have food allergies or a medical condition, but 'too spicy' is a bad excuse."

"It grinds my gears when people say they don't go to clubs because they don't like loud music and crowds of people pressed tightly together, because not all clubs are like that, and anyway there's nothing wrong with feeling your body crushed by sweaty, dancing people: that's the fun of it! Get over yourself! The only people I can forgive are those who have experienced personal trauma like a mass panic where people were crushed to death, so that it triggers their PTSD. Anyone else has no excuse."

Those are bad takes. So is the one about scary movies.
This.
(https://c.tenor.com/eOXG7de_rCoAAAAd/steve-carell-thankyou.gif)
I don't have PTSD or some obvious trauma, but having struggled with depression and anxiety, one of the most liberating and helpful insights that helped me handle it
was knowing and accepting that "I don't have to watch these things" and being able to feel that I'm not a bad or childish person for not wanting to watch such "entertainment"
and explicit material, and I shouldn't have to have undergone some severe crime or catastrophe to "earn" the right to set boundaries on what I'm willing to watch in my own free time.

Now, I have seen a few horror movies I liked (with a big emphasis on few), but only after checking out content ratings and trigger warnings and skip those without content warnings entirely.
Also, the "watching explicit dark stuff helped me overcome my problems" is such a terrible argument, because mental health is extremely individual and for many, trying those things only makes it worse,
and I can speak from personal experience where several works recommended to me gave me nothing and made me feel worse, and I've spoken to several others who've had similar experiences.

Sorry for the rant, but I guess that so many people still not understanding this topic really grinds my gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 09/07/2022 12:24:15
Quote from: Babar on Fri 08/07/2022 05:12:22
Quote from: Snarky on Thu 07/07/2022 22:11:07
When people repeat jokes that have been run into the ground. In particular:

"I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you."
"Actually, it's only X if it's from the X region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling [description of X]."

Isn't that sometimes the point of such jokes (I suppose not in the examples you gave, though)? To overdo something to the point of hilarity?
That might work if you use it as a running gag in a comedy, but only if you also add some individual twist or reaction to it.

Seeing the same lame pun on a common subject in Every. Single. Comments. Section. where said subject is mentioned is just frustrating,
it feels just like seeing somebody give a thourogh and unprompted explanation of an obvious joke just so they can laugh at their own explanation of the joke.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Sat 09/07/2022 14:48:39
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 09/07/2022 12:24:15
That might work if you use it as a running gag in a comedy, but only if you also add some individual twist or reaction to it.

Seeing the same lame pun on a common subject in Every. Single. Comments. Section. where said subject is mentioned is just frustrating,
it feels just like seeing somebody give a thourogh and unprompted explanation of an obvious joke just so they can laugh at their own explanation of the joke.
I guess I was looking at it more as a personal thing. Like I have a friend who does the whole "That's what she said" joke, which is so obvious and so overdone and so tired, but his persistance at it just makes it so hilarious for me, so much so that now when he hears something where it could possibly apply, he just raises his eyebrows at me and I slap my head in groany laughter.

Talking about horror films, I'm not really a fan either- not because I don't want to be scared, but because they never DO scare me, so they seem quite pointless. I can appreciate a good movie that's a horror movie (someone mentioned Heriditary, and then there are things like Silence of the Lambs or The Shining and the like), but that would usually be in spite of it being a horror movie. The most they achieve is jumpscares, and when a movie has to resort to that, it just feels cheap.

But piggybacking off something Stupot said, something that DOES grind my gears is people using pre-conceived notions to outright reject or dismiss something with little to no knowledge of it. Taking the example of movies, I got annoyed when a friend rejected my suggestion to watch Shawn of the Dead because "Zombie movies are stupid", and they wouldn't listen that this wasn't that- I mean, yes, I can understand not wanting to watch zombie movies, and I can understand the perspective of someone who thinks that sort of movie is uninteresting, but to be so totally close-minded to just a label is weird.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 09/07/2022 16:27:02
Quote from: Babar on Sat 09/07/2022 14:48:39
Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 09/07/2022 12:24:15
That might work if you use it as a running gag in a comedy, but only if you also add some individual twist or reaction to it.

Seeing the same lame pun on a common subject in Every. Single. Comments. Section. where said subject is mentioned is just frustrating,
it feels just like seeing somebody give a thourogh and unprompted explanation of an obvious joke just so they can laugh at their own explanation of the joke.
I guess I was looking at it more as a personal thing. Like I have a friend who does the whole "That's what she said" joke, which is so obvious and so overdone and so tired, but his persistance at it just makes it so hilarious for me, so much so that now when he hears something where it could possibly apply, he just raises his eyebrows at me and I slap my head in groany laughter.
Well, I guess that's different, and I could see how some people could make it a kinda funny joke in person, but then it would only work on friends that know them and their humor.
QuoteBut piggybacking off something Stupot said, something that DOES grind my gears is people using pre-conceived notions to outright reject or dismiss something with little to no knowledge of it. Taking the example of movies, I got annoyed when a friend rejected my suggestion to watch Shawn of the Dead because "Zombie movies are stupid", and they wouldn't listen that this wasn't that- I mean, yes, I can understand not wanting to watch zombie movies, and I can understand the perspective of someone who thinks that sort of movie is uninteresting, but to be so totally close-minded to just a label is weird.
Well, I can see how it's unfair if you judge a label on a pre-concieved notion whilst having a completely wrong idea on what the thing is actually about;
for example, my father refused to see Blade runner because he thought it was a stupid comedy about men ice skating, and not realizing he had confused it with the movie Blades of Glory,
was a pretty bad misconception that almost made him miss out on a cool sci-fi film. But on the other hand, if you have already seen several films of a genre and not liked any of them,
or in the case of zombie movies, think that reanimated dead who hunt and eat people is a ridiculously stupid and unrealistic concept that you hate, it's probably not worth trying to nag them into watching a zombie movie.
I've literally seen it with my own mom, it doesn't matter if it's a self-aware comedy or a serious attempt to use fantastical things as an allegory for real-world issues, as soon as a film set in the real world
introduces any supernatural creatures or abilities, she growns and loses all interest. Even with Arcane, which I think was a fantastic series, she could barely sit through one episode before giving up on it
because she dislikes superpowers and all forms of cartoons regardless of their art style.

You just can't make people like things just because you yourself like them, and it's just another fact of life to accept.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Sat 09/07/2022 17:00:15
Quote from: Babar on Fri 08/07/2022 05:12:22
Quote from: Snarky on Thu 07/07/2022 22:11:07
When people repeat jokes that have been run into the ground. In particular:

"I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you."
"Actually, it's only X if it's from the X region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling [description of X]."

Isn't that sometimes the point of such jokes (I suppose not in the examples you gave, though)? To overdo something to the point of hilarity?

Yeah, I don't know if I can defend my annoyance in any principled way, because I don't hate all overdone jokes. "That's what she said" can be funny depending on the context, and I'm always happy when the Loremen do "In Dorset? -'Course I do, I bloody love the place."
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 10/07/2022 19:36:33
Quote from: Babar on Sat 09/07/2022 14:48:39
Taking the example of movies, I got annoyed when a friend rejected my suggestion to watch Shawn of the Dead because "Zombie movies are stupid", and they wouldn't listen that this wasn't that- I mean, yes, I can understand not wanting to watch zombie movies, and I can understand the perspective of someone who thinks that sort of movie is uninteresting, but to be so totally close-minded to just a label is weird.

Quote from: Blondbraid on Sat 09/07/2022 16:27:02
But on the other hand, if you have already seen several films of a genre and not liked any of them,
or in the case of zombie movies, think that reanimated dead who hunt and eat people is a ridiculously stupid and unrealistic concept that you hate, it's probably not worth trying to nag them into watching a zombie movie.

Well it's a good thing that Shawn of the Dead isn't a zombie movie then. It's a romantic comedy.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Sun 10/07/2022 22:06:14
I just saw the new Thor movie. Heimdall's son is a young boy in this movie, and he listens to rock and wants to be called Axl. And he gets admonished a bit because he's got this rough Asgardian name, before they give in and call him Axl for the rest of the movie. Thankfully. His Asgardian name was Astrid, which is a girl's name.

How on Earth is it possible to make this lousy research? One google search would tell you this, if you had not already heard of Astrid Lindgren (which I realize must be possible in other corners of the world).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 11/07/2022 10:02:23
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 10/07/2022 19:36:33
Well it's a good thing that Shawn of the Dead isn't a zombie movie then. It's a romantic comedy.  (laugh)
Hate to break it to you, but to lots of people, literally any movie that features zombies counts as a zombie movie.
Quote from: heltenjon on Sun 10/07/2022 22:06:14
I just saw the new Thor movie. Heimdall's son is a young boy in this movie, and he listens to rock and wants to be called Axl. And he gets admonished a bit because he's got this rough Asgardian name, before they give in and call him Axl for the rest of the movie. Thankfully. His Asgardian name was Astrid, which is a girl's name.

How on Earth is it possible to make this lousy research? One google search would tell you this, if you had not already heard of Astrid Lindgren (which I realize must be possible in other corners of the world).
As a Swede, this actively pains me.

Seriously, I'm fine with Marvel doing their own fantasy interpretation of viking mythology, since it's just myths to begin with and it's a lot more honest about being a modern Hollywood interpretation than stuff like Vikings and The last Kingdom,
but I cannot and I will not accept butchering common names and naming traditions that are still in use in modern-day scandinavia and would take literally 5 seconds of Google to correct.

Unlike USA, where parents are free to give their children literally any batshit and cruel name that's often misspelled to boot, Sweden have laws in place to ensure children aren't given names that are offensive or make them bullying targets,
and that includes giving boys a traditional girls name and vice versa, and unlike the anglo-saxon sphere, most Scandinavian countries have a clear division between boys and girls names, and a boy presenting himself with a girls name
would either be met with people wondering if it was a practical joke, or people wondering if he was coming out as a transgender woman (Swedish kids are allowed to change their names when they are old enough to legally change their gender).

This is the same reason I hated the female Thor, because Tor is a men's name, and while some writers could have used the naming to show the characters explore their gender identity or similar,
it's clear that they're just throwing "exotic" names around without doing any research and this just being another example of Americans being blind to any culture outside the US.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Mon 11/07/2022 12:51:24
This doesn't really bother me that much, since the MCU Asgard is clearly its own thing with its own, non-Scandinavian culture. Out-of-universe it is of course inspired (loosely!) by Norse mythology, but in-universe (to the extent that it can be rationalized at all) it seems more that ancient Scandinavians somehow learned a few things about this alien realm, and that influenced Norse culture. It doesn't mean that anything that holds true of Norse/Scandinavian culture or language applies to the people of Asgard.

More than the gender, I would question whether "Astrid" (meaning "beloved by one of the Aesir") makes sense as a name for one of the Asgardians/Aesir.

OTOH, I was annoyed in Thor Ragnarok when Hemsworth mangled "Nidavellir" (I think he said "Nivadellir") and they left it in.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Mon 11/07/2022 13:14:48
I haven't read the comics, so I don't know what the solution was there, but personally, I would have preferred Thora for the name of the female Thor. As it is, I reacted less to that, because they clearly play it as a kind of title, but it's clumsy all the same. I also think it's stupid to call Valkyrie king, when she easily could have ruled with the title of queen without being any less of a character.

Quote from: Snarky on Mon 11/07/2022 12:51:24
It doesn't mean that anything that holds true of Norse/Scandinavian culture or language applies to the people of Asgard.

More than the gender, I would question whether "Astrid" (meaning "beloved by one of the Aesir") makes sense as a name for one of the Asgardians/Aesir.

So...you changed your mind mid-post?  ;) To be fair, the meaning of the name isn't 100% clear. It could be "As" (singular of aesir) or "Ast" (love) combined with "frid" (fair, loveley, beautiful).

I'm on board with the interpretation that they are an alien race, hence the diversity in ethnicity that would make little sense to a norseman during the viking age. Idris Elba as Heimdall works out great. (Besides, as gods, they could literally change their appearance as they wanted. I like the scenes when Thor magics forth armor.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Mon 11/07/2022 13:28:14
Quote from: heltenjon on Mon 11/07/2022 13:14:48
So...you changed your mind mid-post?  ;)

No, I just think etymology is harder to get away from than naming practices. (Of course this gets into questions like "What is the native language of Asgard?" and "Where did that language come from?" that simply don't have any answers that make sense. We're not talking Tolkienesque worldbuilding here.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Mon 11/07/2022 14:22:58
Quote from: Snarky on Mon 11/07/2022 13:28:14
Quote from: heltenjon on Mon 11/07/2022 13:14:48
So...you changed your mind mid-post?  ;)

No, I just think etymology is harder to get away from than naming practices. (Of course this gets into questions like "What is the native language of Asgard?" and "Where did that language come from?" that simply don't have any answers that make sense. We're not talking Tolkienesque worldbuilding here.)
They go hand in hand, given that Norse names have grammatical gender and are conjugated according to that. But I have no problem accepting that we react to different things.

The naming practice was way worse in Vikings, with surnames hundreds of years early and geographical locations. I mean, if Kattegat were a kingdom, it would be Atlantis. It grinds my gears a bit when people think this is a historical series and not fantasy. I've seen some hotshots proclaiming Thor as the smith god because of the hammer, after seeing that made up explanation in Vikings. Oh well. i prefer Thor in the movies.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 11/07/2022 19:04:23
Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 11/07/2022 10:02:23
This is the same reason I hated the female Thor, because Tor is a men's name, and while some writers could have used the naming to show the characters explore their gender identity or similar,
it's clear that they're just throwing "exotic" names around without doing any research and this just being another example of Americans being blind to any culture outside the US.
Personally, I've always hated the female Thor being called Thor as well. Although for a slightly different reason.
I mean, Thor is HIS NAME, it's not a title that you take on like Captain America or Wolverine. Beta Ray Bill got the powers of Thor, and did he change his name? Of course not, otherwise I wouldn't have just called him Beta Ray Bill!
And sure, that's a rather obscure character now. But it just goes to show that the writers back then knew it was a name and not a title!  (wrong)

Sure, you can keep calling the comic Thor (I think they did that when Beta Ray Bill took the mantle), but when Jane Foster got the powers of Thor she shouldn't have stolen his name! She's her own person damn it!  >:(

Speaking of which, something that grinds my gears is the removal of individuality in the female-version of characters in comics. She-Hulk used to be her own character, now she's just the female version of Hulk. X-23 used to be an awesome character, but now she's just the female version of Wolverine (right down to having her title changed).
Imagine if they did this to Harley Quinn and just made her into a female Joker! Everyone would be outraged!  8-0
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 20/07/2022 23:48:17
It grinds my gears when someone makes a stupid mistake and says "I overthought it" in cases where you can tell that they obviously put zero forethought in whatsoever.
Just say you made a dumb mistake. NOBODY is buying the "brilliant but scatterbrained" genius act!

(Not talking here about actual honest over-thinking. That's a real thing and I do it myself. Talking about when it's just an excuse for a thoughtless mistake but the person just can't admit to having done something dumb)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Mon 15/08/2022 18:51:32
I understand that “nucular” is easier to say than “nuclear”, and I’m not surprised a lot of regular people mispronounce it… but why do even people whose very JOB is to talk about these issues STILL get it wrong?

This is just one example of a phonemenon that grinds my gears. People who pronounce words differently or wrongly, even though (or sometimes even because of) their job is directly related to the word in question.

My beef is not with the mispronunciation of “nuclear” itself. It’s a very common mispronunciation, but last time I checked it was not yet considered an accepted alternative. So at the very least those people who are in fields such as international affairs, physics, etc, where having to say the word frequently is part of their job, should make an effort to say it properly on TV, podcasts, etc.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Mon 15/08/2022 21:28:25
While on that subject. I think I've mentioned this before but I must do it again. People who say "Should of" or "Would of" seriously grinds my gears. I know I know, it's no biggie really but it really bothers me :D IT'S "WOULD'VE" OR "SHOULD'VE"!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Tue 16/08/2022 00:15:01
It grinds my gears when somebody doesn't know of a topic you mentioned and, when you explain what it is, they say something like "Oh, I don't get into stuff like that. I consider it beneath me."

So, they are:

(A) Making an excuse for their ignorance of the topic
(B) Shutting down all further conversation on the topic
(C) Putting you down for even possessing knowledge on the topic
(D) A douchebag
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: lorenzo on Wed 17/08/2022 13:44:10
Quote from: Mouth for war on Mon 15/08/2022 21:28:25
While on that subject. I think I've mentioned this before but I must do it again. People who say "Should of" or "Would of" seriously grinds my gears. I know I know, it's no biggie really but it really bothers me :D IT'S "WOULD'VE" OR "SHOULD'VE"!!!!!!!!
I should of known you would of complained about that!  :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 17/08/2022 20:55:06
Haha exactly the same thing happened the last time I complained...I just waited for it :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: lorenzo on Wed 17/08/2022 21:08:09
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 17/08/2022 20:55:06
Haha exactly the same thing happened the last time I complained...I just waited for it :D
Are you saying... I should of made a different joke?!? :P
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 18/08/2022 09:03:15
Quote from: lorenzo on Wed 17/08/2022 21:08:09
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 17/08/2022 20:55:06
Haha exactly the same thing happened the last time I complained...I just waited for it :D
Are you saying... I should of made a different joke?!? :P

Hahaha!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Thu 18/08/2022 09:21:53
Quote from: lorenzo on Wed 17/08/2022 21:08:09
Quote from: Mouth for war on Wed 17/08/2022 20:55:06
Haha exactly the same thing happened the last time I complained...I just waited for it :D
Are you saying... I should of made a different joke?!? :P
If only I had thought've that!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: CaptainD on Thu 18/08/2022 12:30:12
Since part of my job includes tech support it really annoys me when I ask an end user for a screenshot of the issue they're experiencing, so they screenshot their entire double-screen display, then paste that into a Word file, and send me the Word file.

I mean why.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Thu 18/08/2022 15:25:50
The Word part is probably because they don't know any other way to get an image from the clipboard into a file (and don't think to paste it directly into the email). Right?

(This sort of thing would be hilarious to me, but I guess it gets old pretty quickly.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Thu 18/08/2022 16:43:25
I know several people who do stuff like accessing facebook by typing "Facebook" into google, and clicking the first link, so...  :=
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Thu 18/08/2022 17:04:42
Quote from: Babar on Thu 18/08/2022 16:43:25
I know several people who do stuff like accessing facebook by typing "Facebook" into google, and clicking the first link, so...  :=
I think I know people who start by typing google in order to find google first (effectively googling google), and then click the google link before typing facebook into google.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Thu 18/08/2022 18:36:27
This is petty, but it grinds my gears when people literally write "something-slash-something" or "quote unquote". Those expressions are meant for spoken communication, but it makes zero sense to write all that when the keyboard you're typing on already has slash and quote symbols. "She's a developer-slash-game designer", no, you mean "developer/game designer". "He's a quote-unquote genius", no, you mean "He's a 'genius'".  (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Fri 19/08/2022 10:06:04
Quote from: heltenjon on Thu 18/08/2022 17:04:42
Quote from: Babar on Thu 18/08/2022 16:43:25
I know several people who do stuff like accessing facebook by typing "Facebook" into google, and clicking the first link, so...  :=
I think I know people who start by typing google in order to find google first (effectively googling google), and then click the google link before typing facebook into google.

HAHAHAHA!!! Oh, damn... I think I have done something like that when drunk.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 19/08/2022 13:52:07
Quote from: Babar on Thu 18/08/2022 16:43:25
I know several people who do stuff like accessing facebook by typing "Facebook" into google, and clicking the first link, so...  :=
I literally accessed Instagram this way today… only it was Bing, not Google.

Quote from: Laura Hunt on Thu 18/08/2022 18:36:27
This is petty, but it grinds my gears when people literally write "something-slash-something" or "quote unquote". Those expressions are meant for spoken communication, but it makes zero sense to write all that when the keyboard you're typing on already has slash and quote symbols. "She's a developer-slash-game designer", no, you mean "developer/game designer". "He's a quote-unquote genius", no, you mean "He's a 'genius'".  (roll)

I can’t say i’ve come across this but it would grind my gears too. It’s not like typing “period” or “full-stop” at the end of a sentence because that actually performs a function beyond just typing the actual symbol. But the examples you gave don’t do anything that just typing the symbols doesn’t already do, so yeah, that would annoy me too.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 19/08/2022 15:52:41
Quote from: Stupot on Fri 19/08/2022 13:52:07
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Thu 18/08/2022 18:36:27
This is petty, but it grinds my gears when people literally write "something-slash-something" or "quote unquote". Those expressions are meant for spoken communication, but it makes zero sense to write all that when the keyboard you're typing on already has slash and quote symbols. "She's a developer-slash-game designer", no, you mean "developer/game designer". "He's a quote-unquote genius", no, you mean "He's a 'genius'".  (roll)

I can’t say i’ve come across this but it would grind my gears too. It’s not like typing “period” or “full-stop” at the end of a sentence because that actually performs a function beyond just typing the actual symbol. But the examples you gave don’t do anything that just typing the symbols doesn’t already do, so yeah, that would annoy me too.
I am so glad I've never come across that as well, because that would also grind my gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Laura Hunt on Fri 19/08/2022 16:03:23
Quote from: Danvzare on Fri 19/08/2022 15:52:41
Quote from: Stupot on Fri 19/08/2022 13:52:07
Quote from: Laura Hunt on Thu 18/08/2022 18:36:27
This is petty, but it grinds my gears when people literally write "something-slash-something" or "quote unquote". Those expressions are meant for spoken communication, but it makes zero sense to write all that when the keyboard you're typing on already has slash and quote symbols. "She's a developer-slash-game designer", no, you mean "developer/game designer". "He's a quote-unquote genius", no, you mean "He's a 'genius'".  (roll)

I can’t say i’ve come across this but it would grind my gears too. It’s not like typing “period” or “full-stop” at the end of a sentence because that actually performs a function beyond just typing the actual symbol. But the examples you gave don’t do anything that just typing the symbols doesn’t already do, so yeah, that would annoy me too.
I am so glad I've never come across that as well, because that would also grind my gears.

There you go, third paragraph: https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/galaxy-brain/62fc502abcbd490021afea1e/twitter-viral-outrage-ai-art/

"A day later, an artistâ€"slashâ€"art director saw the post and noticed that I credited “AI art by Midjourney” in the captions."

(also relevant to the AI art debate going on in another thread I guess)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Fri 19/08/2022 17:07:49
Youtube short videos. Don't get me started on why videos and screens got wider and wider until being impractical and we are now having vertical videos to compensate for that. No, I mean those super short <1min videos. You can't rewind or fast-forward there. Now people try to pack as much information as possible into one minute which means quick speaking and even text overlays. And when I don't get a sentence they just said or wasn't quick enough to read the text, I HAVE TO WATCH THAT WHOLE DAMN THING AGAIN just to rewatch one tiny bit. That really grinds my gears.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Fri 19/08/2022 18:58:04
I'm inclined to think that the hyphenated "slash" spelled out has a slightly different meaning than the slash sign. When spelled out, it suggests (to me) a definite dual role, while the slash sign suggests alternative possibilities, uncertainty. An "artist-slash-art director" is someone who is both. An "artist/art director" might be one or the other, or possibly even something else along those lines.

One thing that always sets my teeth on edge is when people refer to the Nordic countries as "the Nordics."
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 19/08/2022 23:13:33
@cat Yeah that winds me up too, especially when they’ve put text over other text, or when they put some text at the bottom and the closed captions go right over it. And you can’t pause them either.

@Snarky
Quote from: SnarkyAn "artist-slash-art director" is someone who is both.
Why not just use “and”? That’s what it’s there for.

[edit - actually I can think of a reason why not. Using “and” could be ambiguous. Saying “an artist and art director saw the post” could be interpreted as two people. But I don’t think that’s very likely as long as you don’t put “an” before “art director” (“an artist and an art director saw my post” definitely sounds like two people.)]

Better yet, they could have used “artist-cum-art-director”. True, it tends to includes the sense that he became an art director after being an artist for some time but it also allows for him to still be an artist as well. Maybe they just wanted to avoid using the word “cum”.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sat 20/08/2022 16:59:00
artist-art director
artist & art director

(laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Mon 22/08/2022 04:49:49
House flies grind my gears. Nothing ruins my mood faster than seeing one of those intrusive freeloaders buzzing around like they own the place.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Mon 22/08/2022 22:03:00
We need to share the world with all other living creatures and... *SQUAT* ... (ah... so much better now) where was I?...  ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Thu 25/08/2022 17:43:51
What grinds my gears, is when you're on the bus, and you're ALMOST at the bus stop to get off, but not quite.  And the bus is stuck in a traffic jam so it can't move.  But the driver still won't let you off.  And you're standing there, thinking... 'Come ON... the bus stop is just right there!  Why won't you let me off?'    :angry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 26/08/2022 15:54:17
Maybe because he can get fined for doing so... and if he lets you off outside the bus stop and you get run over (in a trafic jam it's probably not likely.... but bikes and motorcycle still run along the side) he would be liable...
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Fri 26/08/2022 16:34:59
But he was less than a metre away from the bus stop. 
And there was no space between the bus and the pavement for a motorbike to get through.  I doubt even a bike could have got past. 
Anyway, bikes and motorbikes would pass on the other side of bus, away from the pavement. 
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Slasher on Fri 26/08/2022 16:48:47
We are all just blots on the landscape...I'm not different... I make mistakes and hope to learn from then..

I hate it when people bring others down just because they don't fit into their way of thinking....

People who feel obliged to comment on people's diction without knowing if that person has Dyslexia... Yes, they do exist... 

The people who think the world owes them when in fact they owe the world....

We all vary in some way and that's what makes life exciting...

We can all be here today but gone tomorrow...(those that have kissed death will know) why not embrace our differences with kindness, empathy and love and allow for those less fortunate..Especially in these times of world crises...

I won't say some things grind my gears but I do get a tiny bit annoyed...


Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sun 28/08/2022 13:13:13
Well said Slasher
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 29/08/2022 18:46:48
Quote from: Slasher on Fri 26/08/2022 16:48:47
People who feel obliged to comment on people's diction without knowing if that person has Dyslexia... Yes, they do exist... 
I can confirm that, since my sister has dyslexia.

But yeah, well said Slasher.  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Thu 08/09/2022 20:32:02
Dark chocolate grinds my gears. Chocolate is supposed to taste like heart disease and weight gain. If someone gives you dark chocolate it should be considered a misdemeanor and come with a fine!!!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Thu 08/09/2022 20:46:01
I also prefer milk chocolate to dark chocolate (which to me tastes like baking chocolate), but each to their own.

This is a very niche one: It grinds my gears that in Spotlight App Launch on my Mac, typing "DI…" defaults to Disk Utility (which I hardly ever need to launch) instead of Discord (which I launch all the time).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Sat 10/09/2022 15:17:31
Quote from: Mouth for war on Thu 08/09/2022 20:32:02
Dark chocolate grinds my gears. Chocolate is supposed to taste like heart disease and weight gain. If someone gives you dark chocolate it should be considered a misdemeanor and come with a fine!!!

Your problem there is that you aren't putting enough pineapple on it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Sat 10/09/2022 19:57:40
I knew I should of done that!!!!! ;-) :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Sun 11/09/2022 17:03:58
I love dark chocolate! To a limit, of course. I've tried +90% and that's...just too bitter.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Mon 12/09/2022 21:03:20
No you don't! ;-) yuck that sunds really disgusting :D
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 12/09/2022 22:10:30
Quote from: Babar on Sun 11/09/2022 17:03:58
I love dark chocolate! To a limit, of course. I've tried +90% and that's...just too bitter.

That stuff just instantly sucks all the spit out of your mouth.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Tue 13/09/2022 04:25:33
I don't think I'm weird in that I usually go for less added sugar in such type of snacks. I mean a dessert is a dessert with a mix of many ingredients, and would meant to be sweet, but something like chocolate, or tea, where the point is the thing itself, it seems weird to me to drown the flavour with sugar sweetness.

I guess that grinds my gears: ordering some unique-seeming drink like "kumquat-infused starfruit soda" and basically getting something which might as well be sugarwater. Some places I've lived even served fruit with sugar sprinkled on top (with the justification that "Oh, it is not sweet on its own, it needs the sugar").
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Tue 13/09/2022 08:37:21
I don't like sugar in my coffee, but almost all types of iced coffee you can buy ready made at supermarkets have tons of it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Tue 13/09/2022 15:03:17
Talking about teas and coffees, as someone who doesn't regularly care to drink either, it grinds me gears when people try to ascribe some ulterior motive to and start asking after the fact that I select herbal teas when invited for "coffee" or to participate in a coffee break- like I have bought into some nonsense about amazing cures or diet properties.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Wed 14/09/2022 05:36:47
Quote from: Babar on Tue 13/09/2022 15:03:17
Talking about teas and coffees, as someone who doesn't regularly care to drink either, it grinds me gears when people try to ascribe some ulterior motive to and start asking after the fact that I select herbal teas when invited for "coffee" or to participate in a coffee break- like I have bought into some nonsense about amazing cures or diet properties.

We’re all just curious how you can get through your day without subtle background anxiety. (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Wed 14/09/2022 16:47:53
Quote from: milkanannan on Wed 14/09/2022 05:36:47
We’re all just curious how you can get through your day without subtle background anxiety. (laugh)

Are we all though?

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 15/09/2022 18:47:42
It grinds my gears that, during the elections in Sweden, all major political parties plastered their campaign posters with insipid slogans everywhere,
and apart from being a ridiculously outdated way of reaching out to voters (if I've never voted for your party in all my life, some cardboard with a one-sentence slogan won't change my mind),
those posters are now just a huge trash problem now that the election is over.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Thu 15/09/2022 22:44:36
Quote from: Blondbraid on Thu 15/09/2022 18:47:42
those posters are now just a huge trash problem now that the election is over.

Damn, someone should have run on the ticket of promising to clean up all the posters... while posting none themself.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: AndreasBlack on Fri 16/09/2022 08:26:05
When you have hard evidence blatently obvious that the person in question did huge crimes which should lead right into jail, but society says "We can't do anything. Too many years has passed".  (wrong)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Fri 23/09/2022 12:24:00
I don't know if this actually grinds my gears, but when I listen to someone reading a book aloud, and they read out onomatopoeia in dialogue, such as "ahem," "harrumph!" "pshaw!" or "tut tut"/"tsk tsk," as if they were actual words rather than ways to spell out other sounds people make. It makes me think of Gaspode the talking dog in Discworld, and how disconcerting people find it when he'll say "Woof!" instead of barking.

Incidentally, I just learned that the representation of "tsk tsk" (two dento-alveolar clicks) in the International Phonetic Alphabet is [| |].
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sun 30/10/2022 15:29:03
It grinds my gears that shops keep trying to shill Christmas decor even before Halloween has ended, in some cases even before it's started!
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Sun 30/10/2022 16:15:54
That Elon Musk owns Twitter.

'Cause yeah, I actually enjoy Twitter. I keep my feed pretty well curated (and set to newest) with comedians, artists and sensible people, so my Twitter experience is more whimsy than doomscrolling or all the other things people dislike about the bird app.

But with the changes Musk has indicated he's making to loosen the already lax rules against hate speech, and just the whole platform being beholden to the caprice of the richest man in the world, I don't think I can in good conscience keep using it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 02/11/2022 08:52:06
It really grinds my gears when people use the archaic "-eth" verb ending humorously without any regard for (or, more likely, awareness of) grammar. I just came across "Fucketh thee around, findeth thee out."  >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Thu 03/11/2022 11:28:55
Sounds like my 2 year old who just started to add "-et" to verbs to make them past tense (not how it works in German). For present tense she adds "sein" to verbs or nouns ("being" in English, so she makes sentences like "car being", "eat being"). Which, of course, is super cute in that age, and totally not gear grinding.

Maybe you should just imagine those "-eth" sayers being 2 years old and pat their heads?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Thu 03/11/2022 11:45:50
In the Steven Brust novel To Reign in Hell, one of the characters talks in old English the entire novel, just to be able to deliver a hilarious line far into the book.

Spoiler
In order to protect Satan, he says "Get Thee behind me, Satan!"
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Thu 03/11/2022 12:02:27
@heltenjon I know jokes don't get better if you explain them, but please help me out with that so I can learn something.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Thu 03/11/2022 13:27:47
Quote from: cat on Thu 03/11/2022 12:02:27@heltenjon I know jokes don't get better if you explain them, but please help me out with that so I can learn something.
Explanation in spoiler tags:
Spoiler
Basically, it's a famous quote from the King James Bible translation. The King James Bible is written in a sort of "high speak", old English. It's what Jesus says to the Devil when tempted, and also what he says to St. Peter when Peter suggests taking an easy way out. In Norwegian it's translated into something like "Go away from me, Satan." Perhaps the German translation is more in tone with the Norwegian one?

In the book, it's used in the opposite way, the dog (hell hound) who says it, wants to shield Satan from oncoming harm, if I recall correctly.

You could compare it with if someone in a modern German work talked like they were from a different century throughout a long story just to be able to deliver a famous quote from Goethe in a setting where that would be the normal thing to say.
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Thu 03/11/2022 16:18:00
Youtube has been making subtle changes to its UI since forever but the latest one is just jaw-dropping.
The info box below the uploader's name will say "3 years ago" for a video that came out 3 years and 364 days ago. This is truly some next-level math. I get what they're trying to do there but that's a pretty spectacular fail.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 03/11/2022 17:51:53
Quote from: Khris on Thu 03/11/2022 16:18:00Youtube has been making subtle changes to its UI since forever but the latest one is just jaw-dropping.
The info box below the uploader's name will say "3 years ago" for a video that came out 3 years and 364 days ago. This is truly some next-level math. I get what they're trying to do there but that's a pretty spectacular fail.
To add to this, it grinds my gears how Youtube has gradually been making their entire website worse over a very long period of time.

I still miss when nested replies could have their own nested replies.  :~(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 04/11/2022 23:39:23
Quote from: Snarky on Wed 02/11/2022 08:52:06It really grinds my gears when people use the archaic "-eth" verb ending humorously without any regard for (or, more likely, awareness of) grammar. I just came across "Fucketh thee around, findeth thee out."  >:(
I'm not a fan of this either. Nor when people just decide to put "doth" in their otherwise completely normal speech for literally no reason.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Sat 05/11/2022 17:44:47

What grinds my gears are the limited/mini series (comic books or anime) that ends with a cliffanger!

I understand that every artist would like that his first season could be renewed, but for the readers/audience is a low blow!

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 14/11/2022 13:46:56
What grinds my gears is deviantArt.

I've been using the site almost exclusively to put my comics onto for the past decade, but boy do they make some infuriating business decisions.  >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: TheFrighter on Mon 14/11/2022 16:58:26

What business decisions, Danvzare?

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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 15/11/2022 17:18:55
Quote from: TheFrighter on Mon 14/11/2022 16:58:26What business decisions, Danvzare?

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Well to name a few, changing the logo to one that wouldn't be out of place for a railway company, changing the UI to one that was broken and unfinished (it's a lot better now at least), removing the category system, removing the search functionality for the favourites folder, and most recently the whole AI generated art debacle that's recently erupted.

With each controversial thing they do, the whole site seems to suddenly become less active, and it now feels like a ghost of its former self. At least in the circles I move.

EDIT:
To add to this, the search function is now almost completely useless. You can no longer search for more than one tag unless you're logged in. And even when you do, it shows you completely unrelated results. Look up "Emoticon+Baseball", and enjoy the 8000 results that are neither emoticons nor include baseball. There used to be a time when every result was an Emoticon doing some sort of sport.  (wrong)

And to further add to this, they've recently added a feature where your pictures will without informing you, be rated mature, and only be visible to those who are logged in. Except, it isn't affected by your setting to not show mature pictures.
8 of my comics have been affected by this (down from 19, which I managed to fix by butchering the tags).  >:(

So basically no one can search for my comics anymore, and even if they could, it's starting to look like they won't be able to read them either, since my latest two have been rated mature for no apparent reason.  >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 05/12/2022 21:39:32
the amount of grown adult people who think that the story of the song is that the kid's mom was really kissing Santa Claus is just astounding.

and if you say "The song is through the eyes of a child who doesn't know that it was his dad dressed up as Santa Claus." they'll say "Where does it SAY THAT in the song?!"

Of course they aren't gonna SAY that directly in the song because little kids will also be listening to it. It's a wink-wink thing for the adults to have a chuckle about because they should be able to imagine what the real situation is.

lol I'm getting so worked up over people not understanding a Christmas song.

But at least I'm still surviving Whamageddon, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Tue 06/12/2022 08:05:16
What song is this about?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: heltenjon on Tue 06/12/2022 08:25:52

Although, he's probably talking about the English version.  (laugh)

The song he's referring to, starts at 1:21
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Tue 06/12/2022 08:34:59
Haha, I didn't know the song before, but it is really cute (the interpretation in the video is hard to bear, though), clearly from the view point of a child. Hilarious to think that some adults don't get it, even if you tell them.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 06/12/2022 17:05:34
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 05/12/2022 21:39:32the amount of grown adult people who think that the story of the song is that the kid's mom was really kissing Santa Claus is just astounding.
Wait... there are seriously people out there that don't realize it's the dad dressed as Santa Claus!  8-0
Holy crap! I want to be that innocent and naive!  :-D

Quote from: Mandle on Mon 05/12/2022 21:39:32But at least I'm still surviving Whamageddon, fingers crossed.
Same here. I've yet to hear it this December, thank goodness. But I know it's lurking just around the corner... especially since both of my parents absolutely adore that song.  :-X
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Thu 08/12/2022 22:25:33
Maybe they believe in Santa Claus?  ;)

About "Whamageddon", no such luck. My son goes around singing it... but I like it, so no problem for me.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Fri 09/12/2022 15:03:19
Something that drives me up the wall is when people don't properly pluralize family names that end with -S, like Jennings or Jones.

I remember reading reviews of The Americans that kept talking about the Jennings family with "the Jennings do this, the Jennings do that." It's "the Jenningses"! You pluralize it just like (almost) any other noun ending in -S: kisses, gases, addresses...

What makes it so exasperating is that the correct pattern is demonstrated in the familiar expression "keeping up with the Joneses" (which also gave name to the Sierra game Jones in the Fast Lane).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Sun 08/01/2023 18:19:59
Ebay buyers have been driving me up the wall recently.  :undecided:

I've recently sold 2 pieces of furniture - chests of drawers on ebay.  Being furniture, it's not very practical to post them. 

Both times, I clearly said on the ebay sale page  'collection from [my area], Edinburgh, Scotland.'

Both times, the person who won, has changed their mind after they won it, because they live outside of Scotland, so it's too far to come to collect.

If you know something is 'collection from Edinburgh in Scotland', and you don't live nearby thus you don't intend to come and collect, why even bid for it in the first place?

:angry:  :angry:  :angry:

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sun 08/01/2023 21:22:07
Wait, if they bid and won, shouldn't they be bound to pay for it? You clearly marked it as "collect and where it's located". It's to the buyer to figure it out how to get his "new stuff", not your problem.
Seems to me like the problem is ebay it self.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Sun 08/01/2023 22:24:20
The buyers SHOULD be bound to pay. But so far, both of them say they won't pay since they're not coming for their respective drawers. 



'Hey, there's this thing on ebay that I want.  It's located over 100 miles away, but I'll bid for it anyway.  If I win, I'll just inconvenience the seller by refusing to pay and refusing to collect it.'

:undecided:

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Wed 08/02/2023 17:22:32
What grinds my gears...

When I leave work early so I can get to the bus shop and renew my bus pass before it closes for the day... get 2 buses to said bus shop instead of 1 bus straight home... only to find that the bus shop has closed early today with no indicarion why.   :angry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 16/02/2023 16:39:39
Quote from: Frodo on Wed 08/02/2023 17:22:32What grinds my gears...

When I leave work early so I can get to the bus shop and renew my bus pass before it closes for the day... get 2 buses to said bus shop instead of 1 bus straight home... only to find that the bus shop has closed early today with no indicarion why.  :angry:


On a related note, it grinds my gears when your bus just doesn't show up, with no indication as to why.
Did it show up ten minutes early and you simply missed it? Did it break down? Has the timetable been changed but nothing has been updated to show it?
Who knows.  :confused:
Whatever the case, you now have to wait a full hour for the next bus.  :~(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Tue 07/03/2023 20:19:06
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 16/02/2023 16:39:39
Quote from: Frodo on Wed 08/02/2023 17:22:32What grinds my gears...

When I leave work early so I can get to the bus shop and renew my bus pass before it closes for the day... get 2 buses to said bus shop instead of 1 bus straight home... only to find that the bus shop has closed early today with no indicarion why.  :angry:


On a related note, it grinds my gears when your bus just doesn't show up, with no indication as to why.
Did it show up ten minutes early and you simply missed it? Did it break down? Has the timetable been changed but nothing has been updated to show it?
Who knows.  :confused:
Whatever the case, you now have to wait a full hour for the next bus.  :~(
I recently missed a bus because it arrived early, then departed right before my face as I was running to the stop, despite that I was there before it was supposed to leave, forcing me to wait 30 minutes.  :~(

Anyways, the reason I haven't been able to keep up with the AGS community much lately is that some time ago, I finally landed a job, data a daycare, and it not only grinds my gears but I've come to actively despise parents who bring sick kids to schools and daycare.

The last few months have been a circus of either struggling with whatever viruses they're bringing us myself or having to be overstressed and overworked because someone else on the staff is home  sick, and just today, a child started puking all over the place and their parents took TWO HOURS before bothering to pick up and bring home their spawn.

Seriously, we've had a pandemic that was not just within my lifetime, but recent enough to be within the kindergartener's lifetimes, would it really be that weird to demand some kind of penalty for bringing clearly sick or coughing kids to daycare?

Also, we seriously should normalize putting these on coughing toddlers as a society:
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Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Thu 09/03/2023 12:14:35
David Wolfe and his pseudo nonsense grinds my gears. He's just posted a video on Twitter alleging a patient cured their cancerous tumour in minutes through positive thinking.  :sealed:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 09/03/2023 18:13:43
Quote from: milkanannan on Thu 09/03/2023 12:14:35David Wolfe and his pseudo nonsense grinds my gears. He's just posted a video on Twitter alleging a patient cured their cancerous tumour in minutes through positive thinking.  :sealed:
Imagine a world where to be healthy you had to be happy.

As soon as you got a little upset, it'd be a downward spiral into an early grave.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Thu 09/03/2023 19:45:14
Quote from: Danvzare on Thu 09/03/2023 18:13:43
Quote from: milkanannan on Thu 09/03/2023 12:14:35David Wolfe and his pseudo nonsense grinds my gears. He's just posted a video on Twitter alleging a patient cured their cancerous tumour in minutes through positive thinking.  :sealed:
Imagine a world where to be healthy you had to be happy.

As soon as you got a little upset, it'd be a downward spiral into an early grave.  (laugh)
It all sounds similar to Belle Gibson; It's super easy to cure an illness through positive thinking when the illness itself was something you've made up to begin with.

And on a more serious note, these types of things just end up causing further harm to people being down because of their illness, because then they don't just have to deal with their illness itself, but also with being blamed for not being able to turn their pain into inspiration fodder and being positive enough.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Fri 10/03/2023 01:09:57
That David Wolfe has been putting out nonsense since the early days of Facebook. He's one of the pioneers of chucking out absolute bollocks that he probably doesn't even agree with just to get people to interact with it. Nowadays, that's just what everybody does. It's exhausting to scroll through the teams of absolute bollocks. Obviously staged pranks; magic tricks where you can clearly see what they did; deliberately bad parenting advice; deliberately disgusting food recipes, which invariably include some unhygienic element; deliberately terrible craft ideas, with obligatory disregard to taste as well as safety; and the purposefully melodramatic videos of people reacting to all of the above.

These are bad on purpose because they know more people will comment about how bad they are, and it's the number comments that matter to them, not a sense of pride in their own work.

I grind my own gears for allowing myself to see this shit.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mouth for war on Wed 22/03/2023 15:59:09
Wow I never thought this thread would have so much gear grinding. I imagined this would get a few replies maximum. Keep up being annoyed people 😁
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Wed 22/03/2023 21:35:23
When an insurance company takes you car as hostage by insuring it when you already told them 3 times you don't want your insurance with them and have already signed up and payed another company... 2 months ago! And then it takes 5 weeks of you being the ping-pong ball, while the two companies bat at you from one side to the other... :/ And make you pay double insurance, cause you don't want to risk the police coming to take your plates or getting a fine from the fiscal gov... :/ Sigh... I *think* it's finally fixed (now waiting from them to return my money, which may take up to 10 days...) Really hope it'll return "on it's own" and that I don't have to waste more hours on the phone to get them to return it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 23/03/2023 10:25:18
Quote from: Cassiebsg on Wed 22/03/2023 21:35:23When an insurance company takes you car as hostage by insuring it when you already told them 3 times you don't want your insurance with them and have already signed up and payed another company... 2 months ago! And then it takes 5 weeks of you being the ping-pong ball, while the two companies bat at you from one side to the other... :/ And make you pay double insurance, cause you don't want to risk the police coming to take your plates or getting a fine from the fiscal gov... :/ Sigh... I *think* it's finally fixed (now waiting from them to return my money, which may take up to 10 days...) Really hope it'll return "on it's own" and that I don't have to waste more hours on the phone to get them to return it.
I've lost count of the number of times I've heard my dad complaining about the same thing.  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Thu 30/03/2023 06:17:04
My grocery store switched from carrying the brand of orange juice I like to another brand that I find undrinkably bitter, and I can't find any other store that sells it. 😭
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Sat 01/04/2023 15:42:00
Quote from: Snarky on Thu 30/03/2023 06:17:04My grocery store switched from carrying the brand of orange juice I like to another brand that I find undrinkably bitter, and I can't find any other store that sells it. 😭

That would also drive me bonkers. Orange juice is life.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 03/04/2023 17:32:26
It grinds my gears when someone touches the screen when pointing to something on it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Mon 03/04/2023 20:13:44
I've dropped orange juice a long time ago, they all (or most of anyway) taste undrinkable. Buy some oranges and make your own juice, best juice is the freshly squeezed one. ;)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Frodo on Mon 03/04/2023 22:32:53
Quote from: Danvzare on Mon 03/04/2023 17:32:26It grinds my gears when someone touches the screen when pointing to something on it.

What about licking the screen?  :kiss:

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Thu 22/06/2023 07:53:05
Every single use of the term "AI" lately. (roll)

I'm also slightly miffed about having to root for Mark Zuckerberg of all people, due to the upcoming cage match against the dumbest person alive.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Fri 14/07/2023 14:57:20
That English has two verbs, "to rifle" and "to riffle," with, in some situations, very similar yet definitely distinct meanings:

rifle,
v. tr.
1. To search (an area or container, for example) thoroughly, especially using the hands with the intent to steal or remove something: rifled the desk, looking for the keys.
v. intr.
To search vigorously: rifling through my drawers to find matching socks.

Synonyms: search, comb, hunt, rummage, scour, rake

riffle
v. tr.
1. to flip hastily with the fingers; flutter: to riffle papers.
v. intr.
1. (often followed by through) to flick rapidly through (the pages of a book, magazine, etc), especially in a desultory manner: riffle through the catalog.

So if you are looking for something in a book you can rifle through it or you can riffle through it, and the difference is how energetic you are about it.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: milkanannan on Sun 16/07/2023 13:22:46
I annoyed that my body will only allow me to have one cup of coffee per day. Any more than that and I'm an anxious wreck. Decaf just doesn't have the same edge, so that's not an option, and I've never been a tea person.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 23/07/2023 12:07:23
Quote from: milkanannan on Sun 16/07/2023 13:22:46I annoyed that my body will only allow me to have one cup of coffee per day. Any more than that and I'm an anxious wreck. Decaf just doesn't have the same edge, so that's not an option, and I've never been a tea person.
Have you tried cocoa instead?  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: KyriakosCH on Sun 23/07/2023 12:22:39
I don't drink coffee at all. Just never liked it  (wrong)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Thu 27/07/2023 06:56:16
(https://www.pngall.com/wp-content/uploads/8/Verification-Blue-Tick.png)

This is not a blue tick.
Why is everyone calling it a blue tick?
It is clearly a white tick on a blue background.*

Maybe I'm missing something obvious but I can't think of any other instance where we describe an item by the colour of the background it sits on, rather than the colour it actually is.


[* Yes, pedant, I'm aware that the above tick technically is blue because I chose a PNG where the WHITE is transparent and posted it on a forum with blue pages. Thanks in advance for pointing that out.]
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Creamy on Sat 29/07/2023 08:37:22
Prices for Olympic Games tickets Paris 2024 (I don't have any information about the precedent editions).

They claim that "more than one million tickets will be offered at EUR 24. Nearly 50% of tickets reserved for the general public will have a price less than or equal to EUR 50."
Yet, for some sports like athletics, volleyball or swimming you can't find anything under 170 € - a whole year before the event.



Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Thu 03/08/2023 11:30:59
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 27/07/2023 06:56:16I can't think of any other instance where we describe an item by the colour of the background it sits on, rather than the colour it actually is.

Apropos of nothing, here's the AGS splash screen with the big blue cup logo:

(https://i.imgur.com/5tLzhZO.png)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 07/08/2023 18:18:03
Quote from: Snarky on Thu 03/08/2023 11:30:59
Quote from: Stupot on Thu 27/07/2023 06:56:16I can't think of any other instance where we describe an item by the colour of the background it sits on, rather than the colour it actually is.

Apropos of nothing, here's the AGS splash screen with the big blue cup logo:

All in favour of renaming the logo to the "Big White Cup" say aye.  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Tue 15/08/2023 11:44:17
It grinds my gears how people act like there's only two types of games.
Either super high budgeted AAA games or zero budget Indie games. With absolutely nothing in between.

It's like watching people passionately argue between McDonalds and home cooked food, as though those are literally the only two options to get food in the entire world.  >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: KyriakosCH on Wed 16/08/2023 06:20:07
Even budget-wise, a myriad of Kickstarter funded ones would be in between.
If they aren't just exit scams, of course  :=

Unrelated:


Apart from the rest of the craziness, I find it kind of awesome that the Bog tried to prove mathematically they were right in their claim that phi is a transcendental number :=
Ok, they soon gave up and said it was an editor's typo (LOL), but still.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Fri 18/08/2023 13:16:09
I often connect from a VPN, which makes Google give me ReCaptcha challenges before I can ask urgent questions like "How do the lyrics to that song go?"

My frustration is that it is always asking me to select which parts of an image that contain a bicycle, a motorbike, or a staircase. And this turns out to be very difficult!

-What is meant by a "staircase"? Just the steps? The banister? The whole structure? Does a staircase seen from an angle where the steps aren't visible count as a staircase?
-Does a bike or motorbike include the rider?
-Does it include side mirrors?
-Does is include sidecars, trailers, or cargo?
-If a bike is mostly but not entirely obscured by some other object in a particular square (a fence, for example), does it count?

Apparently, my answers to these questions are more robotic than human, because I usually fail the test many times over before I am able to convince Google to let me through.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sat 19/08/2023 01:28:29
I always have the same doubts, except I rarely fail these... I think.
I just go with "if I can identify it as X, then click on it!" even if it's like just a few pixels on that square.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: AndreasBlack on Sat 19/08/2023 08:50:48
Quote from: Snarky on Fri 18/08/2023 13:16:09My frustration is that it is always asking me to select which parts of an image that contain a bicycle, a motorbike, or a staircase. And this turns out to be very difficult!


 (laugh) 100% Maybe you could create an automated AI script that knows his bicycles, motorbikes, red lights, stairs, etc! Have it epoch a lot on those things so it's infallible  (nod)

Alltho that would defeat the purpose of showing that you are a "real human" :-D  To be serious i also fail them a lot. When i tried to join this forum was fun, i had to do Captcha's to be able to post, i was frustrated to say the least! NOT only that the scripting was impossible for me back then but that i had to deal with those aswell?! (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: LimpingFish on Sun 20/08/2023 02:21:23
Quote from: Snarky on Fri 18/08/2023 13:16:09My frustration is that it is always asking me to select which parts of an image that contain a bicycle, a motorbike, or a staircase. And this turns out to be very difficult!

The worst one, imho, is the "pedestrian crossing" test. Eight squares or so are clearly depicting a pedestrian crossing, but do I select that extra square that happens to have a pixel or two of white paint in it? Ditto the "traffic light" test.

Also...this (https://qz.com/ai-bots-recaptcha-turing-test-websites-authenticity-1850734350). >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Sun 20/08/2023 03:35:21
I'm not so sure these days as I haven't tested it for a while but you used to be able to get away with clicking a wrong square or two on those things.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Sun 20/08/2023 13:18:02
Quote from: Stupot on Sun 20/08/2023 03:35:21I'm not so sure these days as I haven't tested it for a while but you used to be able to get away with clicking a wrong square or two on those things.
If I'm not mistaken, aren't the answers based on the answers of everyone else?
I'm fairly sure these captchas are used to train algorithms, so presumably what it usually does is average out people's answers to increase it's own understanding.

I definitely remember hearing that whenever it forces you to do it twice, it's because it knows the answer to one, but is collecting your answer for the other.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: KyriakosCH on Sun 20/08/2023 13:57:30
Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 20/08/2023 13:18:02
Quote from: Stupot on Sun 20/08/2023 03:35:21I'm not so sure these days as I haven't tested it for a while but you used to be able to get away with clicking a wrong square or two on those things.
If I'm not mistaken, aren't the answers based on the answers of everyone else?
I'm fairly sure these captchas are used to train algorithms, so presumably what it usually does is average out people's answers to increase it's own understanding.

I definitely remember hearing that whenever it forces you to do it twice, it's because it knows the answer to one, but is collecting your answer for the other.

I will find an anodyne situation to put that to the test (answer false for the other), but can we be sure it presents the one it knows the answer to first? ^^
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Sun 20/08/2023 14:01:15
Quote from: Stupot on Sun 20/08/2023 03:35:21I'm not so sure these days as I haven't tested it for a while but you used to be able to get away with clicking a wrong square or two on those things.

Quote from: Danvzare on Sun 20/08/2023 13:18:02If I'm not mistaken, aren't the answers based on the answers of everyone else?
I'm fairly sure these captchas are used to train algorithms, so presumably what it usually does is average out people's answers to increase it's own understanding.

I definitely remember hearing that whenever it forces you to do it twice, it's because it knows the answer to one, but is collecting your answer for the other.

I think ReCaptcha has changed a lot on the backend over the years, so that much of what used to be true about it no longer is. For example, I believe that these days it uses some kind of Bayesian inference to decide how much proof is good enough to accept you as human, based on things like your IP address (and other traffic from that IP) and your mouse movements just as much as your actual answers to the challenge. If it basically trusts you, you might only have to click the checkbox, or it will be more accepting of a non-perfect answer, but if it distrusts you you might need to do a dozen challenges "perfectly" before it is satisfied. (And even that may be more a matter of "we have imposed a sufficiently high cost on this bot to discourage frivolous abuse" than really believing the user to be human.)

Its "correct" answers are probably a mix of human consensus and machine intelligence at this point. As pointed out in LF's link, computer vision can do these just as easily as—or better than—humans can these days, unless adversarial signals are overlaid onto the image (e.g. the noise ReCaptcha occasionally adds to the pictures).
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Sun 20/08/2023 14:26:17
There's noise to the pics? :O
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Thu 24/08/2023 13:28:43
I hate setting up multiple monitors on Windows.
Currently I can choose between
a) a correct projection menu but I don't see anything on my monitor after turning on the PC until the lock screen
b) everything is as its supposed to be, except the goddamn projection menu, which labels my monitor as external / secondary screen despite it being identified as display #1 as of nvidia's hardware numbering and Windows itself(!)

Look at this shit (click for full size):
(https://i.imgur.com/TfMkdNZ.png) (https://i.imgur.com/TfMkdNZ.png)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Mandle on Mon 28/08/2023 14:32:52
What grinds my gears is this endless summer heat and humidity here in Japan. What makes me able to be happy and ignore that today is that I just booked tickets for myself, Stupot, and two other mates to go see Jimmy Carr in Tokyo on January 29th of next year.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Wed 30/08/2023 14:56:57
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 28/08/2023 14:32:52What grinds my gears is this endless summer heat and humidity here in Japan. What makes me able to be happy and ignore that today is that I just booked tickets for myself, Stupot, and two other mates to go see Jimmy Carr in Tokyo on January 29th of next year.

I have classes starting at 13:25 so I'm walking in the midday sun every day  :cry:
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Wed 30/08/2023 19:17:32
Just go there early, like 7AM then you don't need to walk in the midday sun...  (laugh)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Stupot on Wed 06/09/2023 14:38:02
Maybe I'm missing the point but a lot of these social media memes, both still ones and these "reels", have a caption that begins "POV". This is supposed to stand for "point of view" (as it always has). Only, these memes and video are not POV. They are just pictures or video of a person doing something.

If the point is that it's supposed be from my POV as the person looking at the images, then that means every single picture I've ever look at has been "POV".


POS, more like. 😠
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Thu 07/09/2023 10:57:35
Maybe the subject of the meme is just giving you their point of view?
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Khris on Thu 07/09/2023 12:22:17
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 06/09/2023 14:38:02Only, these memes and video are not POV.

That is... wow. I googled POV meme and one of the first results was "20 POV memes" from MemeHeist. And like not even half of them are even remotely POV in the physical sense, just in the "you know that feeling when" sense. Which is apparently what POV means now. (roll)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: AndreasBlack on Thu 07/09/2023 12:45:34
Photoshop CS6 unique Bug or if it's a setting i haven't been able to find it, unclear  ??? Where you want to move one layer, but for unknown reason it just jumps down in the layer list randomly to another layer that is not selected and starts moving that layer instead of the one you've selected at first. Only happens with the mouse, not with the keyboard so i can use the arrow keys, but it's a tedious process when you have 6000px wide rooms.  :~(  >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 07/09/2023 12:59:27
Quote from: AndreasBlack on Thu 07/09/2023 12:45:34Where you want to move one layer, but for unknown reason it just jumps down in the layer list randomly to another layer that is not selected and starts moving that layer instead of the one you've selected at first.
This happens to me a lot in Gimp. The reason is when using the mouse to move a layer, by default it'll pick the first layer that has an opaque pixel where you click, not the active layer. There is an option for the Move tool to change this behaviour to move the active instead (and I just checked, in Gimp you can also press and hold Shift to temporarily toggle to the other behaviour), so I think PS should have a similar setting.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Mon 18/09/2023 18:52:30
This is less of a gear grinding thing, and more of a pet peeve.

There's been an influx of indie games with a retro 3D look, which I'm all for and I really like.
But they almost all insist or using nearest-neighbour for the texture filtering, with the argument that it both looks better and is more fitting with the retro aesthetic.

I suppose if you grew up with a PS1 or a Sega Saturn, then sure. But if you grew up with a N64, PC, or played a bunch of arcade games, then you'll probably have a preference for bilinear texture filtering. I grew up with a fairly powerful PC, so for me, I grew up with basically all of the options set to max (and typically played the games at a resolution of 1024x768, which technically counts as HD from a vertical pixel count).

Whether one looks better than the other is purely subjective. So at least give me a choice!
As an example I really like the low-res texture work on the System Shock Remake (it's not really going for the retro 3D look, but the textures are), but please give me a choice for bilinear texture filtering! Low-res textures with bilinear texture filtering look brilliant!  :~(



On a related note, there's those people who insist on strong scanline filters on anything going for a retro aesthetic. Like seriously... how bad were your monitors? Because I literally still have mine, and I assure you, if you look really closely you can barely see the scanlines. I'd call it more of a soft blur. (I never ran Windows at the maximum resolution of 1280x1024 because you couldn't read anything due to that blur.)

So yeah, my pet peeve is that people consider the cheap crap they used as kids, as being the one-true depiction of retro.
(And for the record, my family is dirt poor, it's just my dad was really into games and computers. He made up for the cost of the decent hardware through the use of Warez CDs.)
I can't imagine anyone trying to play Tomb Raider 2, Thief the Dark Project, or the original Rainbow Six, at something like 640x480, or worse... 320x200.

(And before the Windows PC, we had an Amiga, and even that had a decent monitor with basically no sign of scanlines. Seriously, how cheap were the screens that people were using?)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Tomags on Tue 19/09/2023 13:26:52
Quote from: Danvzare on Mon 18/09/2023 18:52:30There's been an influx of indie games with a retro 3D look, which I'm all for and I really like.
But they almost all insist or using nearest-neighbour for the texture filtering, with the argument that it both looks better and is more fitting with the retro aesthetic.

I suppose if you grew up with a PS1 or a Sega Saturn, then sure. But if you grew up with a N64, PC, or played a bunch of arcade games, then you'll probably have a preference for bilinear texture filtering. I grew up with a fairly powerful PC, so for me, I grew up with basically all of the options set to max (and typically played the games at a resolution of 1024x768, which technically counts as HD from a vertical pixel count).


Interesting! I didn't even know texture filtering was a thing.

Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Mon 25/09/2023 19:54:37
It grinds my gears when people in public transport in rush hour(trams, trains, subways) slowly hobble their way forward and just stand around in the middle of the isle rather than just go forward, take a seat if there is one, or else try to stand to the side so the other people can.

Seriously, the rush hour tube is NOT the place to stand around lazing about and blocking the way for stressed-out people who just want to get away from the sweaty crowd and get on with their way. And no, the majority of these sloths are NOT frail elderly, pregnant, or handicapped, but perfectly able-bodied young people who inexplicably think that it's fun roleplaying as a zombie where it's the most inconvenient.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Babar on Tue 26/09/2023 04:18:11
Quote from: Blondbraid on Mon 25/09/2023 19:54:37It grinds my gears when people in public transport in rush hour(trams, trains, subways) slowly hobble their way forward and just stand around in the middle of the isle rather than just go forward, take a seat if there is one, or else try to stand to the side so the other people can.

Seriously, the rush hour tube is NOT the place to stand around lazing about and blocking the way for stressed-out people who just want to get away from the sweaty crowd and get on with their way. And no, the majority of these sloths are NOT frail elderly, pregnant, or handicapped, but perfectly able-bodied young people who inexplicably think that it's fun roleplaying as a zombie where it's the most inconvenient.
Your comment reminded me of lots of nagivation based gears to grind, one of which was what you described, but everywhere: People suddenly deciding to hold up other people's movement in the most inconvenient places: suddenly stopping in the middle of gates or doorways, for example, or standing in your way outside elevators while you're in them.

As an everywhere walker in a place that isn't kind to walkers, I have a whole host of other ground gears too, the one that bugs me most often is while I'm running, especially along an intersection (or somewhere a vehicle can come perpendicular to me), and seeing me going across their path already, instead of turning behind me, the motorbike or bicycle (or small car) speeds up so that it can try to make the gap in front of me instead.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Cassiebsg on Tue 26/09/2023 21:51:28
@Babar.... "How dare you to cross the road when I'm coming? I'll show you and just speed up and cut in front of you." (instead of just lifting the foot of the gas and let the vehicle roll for a bit).

I know the feeling, even though I don't run, but experience that often while driving. :/
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Wed 27/09/2023 07:58:19
I have the same the other way round. When I'm going with my bike and see people crossing the road, I want to pass behind them. But when they see me they suddenly stop so I have to navigate around them.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 27/09/2023 08:07:22
As a pedestrian, I usually want to cross the road behind any traffic, but if you make the slightest gesture in that direction, cars will typically slow down (even if they could have safely passed before I got out into the road if they had just maintained speed), and therefore I have to elaborately pretend that I don't intend to cross the road while waiting for them to pass.

This is rarely an issue with bicyclists. (Which is reasonable enough, as they can usually swerve to avoid a crossing pedestrian.)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Wed 27/09/2023 09:59:03
To be fair, I think it's a nice thing when car drivers slow down and let you pass. On a pedestrian crossing, they even have to, by law. However, it's often hard to be sure whether they really slow down and let you cross. Some are clever enough and blink or make a gesture, others just slow down a bit and then look annoyed that I don't cross immediately.
When I'm at a crossing and do not want to cross (or wait for them to go first) I usually gesture to indicate that they should go first.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: AndreasBlack on Wed 27/09/2023 10:46:29
Quote from: cat on Wed 27/09/2023 09:59:03To be fair, I think it's a nice thing when car drivers slow down and let you pass. On a pedestrian crossing, they even have to, by law. However, it's often hard to be sure whether they really slow down and let you cross. Some are clever enough and blink or make a gesture, others just slow down a bit and then look annoyed that I don't cross immediately.
When I'm at a crossing and do not want to cross (or wait for them to go first) I usually gesture to indicate that they should go first.
What are the odds! I thought about that just a week ago, even said to a friend i've figured how to solve the situation. Walk over the street look at the driver angry, and they'll slowdown. That's all there is to it really! Worked so far, otherwise i'd wouldn't be here obviously, but i've been acting like you aswell before. Doing a gesture (go on then!) waving  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Snarky on Wed 27/09/2023 10:57:29
Quote from: cat on Wed 27/09/2023 09:59:03To be fair, I think it's a nice thing when car drivers slow down and let you pass.

Yeah, but if I'm not right at the crossing, and would actually have to suddenly sprint towards it and across the road to have any hope of getting hit, while at my current pace (and its steady speed) I would easily pass behind the car without either of us slowing down, then it makes everything more awkward if they do slow down and stop.

Before, I could ignore the car: it would have gone safely past before I had to enter the roadway. Now I have to take it into account, make sure it really is stopping, perhaps increase my pace or jog across to be considerate of its time, maybe even give a sign of acknowledgment. Sometimes other cars are affected and change their behavior in ways I need to keep a watch on (e.g. in an intersection). It becomes a considerably more stressful situation.

So it's often preferable to feign complete disinterest in crossing the road and pretend that you're going in a different direction until the car has passed and you can cross at your leisure. In some cases I've actually walked past the crossing I wanted to use, only to double back once the car had gone by.

I would compare it to merging onto the highway: things flow better if the cars already on the highway don't slow down (unless clearly necessary to avoid an accident). And in terms of social dynamics it's like people who hold the door for you even when you're too far away.

I should perhaps also mention that I live in the city, on a block where most cars drive fairly slowly (more slowly than most bicyclists), and right next to a five-way intersection with no traffic lights, so I have to deal with this on a daily basis.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Thu 28/09/2023 09:11:04
Ah, I understand. I live next to the main road with lots of cars going in both directions. It's quite hard sometimes to find a moment where you can safely cross the road.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Thu 28/09/2023 11:22:14
I'm in the unique position where I have both problems next to where I live. A very quiet road where people slow down for you sometimes when you could easily just pass behind them. And a crossroad a little further down, where trying to cross is like playing a game of Frogger.  (laugh)

Everyone in this town have been wanting traffic lights at that crossroads since forever.
And when they did put traffic lights down... they put them at a different crossroad where there were never any problems. And now no one waits to let you pass at that other crossroad thanks to those traffic lights, therefore making everything worse!  >:(
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Fri 20/10/2023 15:33:15
I'm just enraged at parents letting their offspring act feral and then having the gall to judge people for calling them out on it.

When I was commuting today, a mom with two kids, old enough to talk and walk on their own mind you, was walking right in front of me and the kids were howling like freaking apes for no reason whatsoever. They were not in pain or anything, they just felt like playing howler monkeys, and when I asked "must you be so loud?", the lady just gave a half-hearted hush and the kids kept howling, so when I asked her to tell them to stop, she just snapped at me saying "She's a small child". I told her I've worked in daycare and kids can quiet down if you just clearly tell them, and she just snapped back "then You should understand they can't" and walked away.

Look, I've worked with toddlers, and I know from experience that if they are not in pain or some form of distress, and old enough to talk, they very much can stop what they are doing as long as their parents can tell them to with just a freaking ounce of authority or consistency, but that woman was deliberately undermining ANY attempt, including her own, at making her kids respect their surroundings and other people.

I despise the current idea that any attempt at boundaries or rules for kids is on par with straight-up abuse, parents shouldn't be parents, but some cool friend that's never saying no, and that kids just lack any sense of restraint or consideration.

Well, kid's aren't born with inherent respect for other people, but that's a reason to teach them, not let them run feral until you expect them to just magically be gifted with social skills. I have Asberger's syndrome, so I had an even harder path learning all that, but I did, because I was taught.

And then there's this toxic mentality that any stranger reprimanding a child for bad behavior, what used to be known as "it takes a village to raise a child", is bad and intrusive and that is just another recipe for intensifying any bad thing they do the older they get.

Seriously, people who don't want to do any actual parenting shouldn't be parents, if they want a creature that only exist to be pampered and who doesn't understand or care for human social cues, they should get cats instead.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Danvzare on Fri 20/10/2023 17:35:42
Quote from: Blondbraid on Fri 20/10/2023 15:33:15I'm just enraged at parents letting their offspring act feral and then having the gall to judge people for calling them out on it.
In just one sentence, you perfectly described all of the kids near to where I live.
I feel your pain.  (nod)
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: cat on Sat 21/10/2023 20:23:21
I'm just glad you haven't worked in my kid's daycare...

If my kids were to play apes when walking on the street with me, I would not stop them because some passerby demands it. Of course, the situation would be different on a bus or train, but not just walking somewhere outside.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sat 21/10/2023 21:21:51
Quote from: cat on Sat 21/10/2023 20:23:21I'm just glad you haven't worked in my kid's daycare...

If my kids were to play apes when walking on the street with me, I would not stop them because some passerby demands it. Of course, the situation would be different on a bus or train, but not just walking somewhere outside.
It was a tightly crowded subway station, not a playground park. And the kids weren't "playing ape" as some cute game, they were howling just for the heck of it.

Let's be clear, I'm not interrupting kids playing in their homes or on a playground, or any place where you could reasonably expect kids to be allowed to run around and play, it's a subway station, where nearly everyone is tired from work or school and just want to be able to go home in peace. Is it really that unreasonable to ask parents to teach their kids bare-bones consideration for the people around them? And why would it be wrong for a passerby to ask for it?

How would you go about teaching kids to respect other people around them and prepare them for the fact that while their parents may let things slide, so many people in their future lives, teachers, bosses, older kids around them, facility staff etc., will not?

QuoteI'm just glad you haven't worked in my kid's daycare...
Also, you sound rather judgemental yourself saying that, you don't know where or what my work routines looked like.
Sure, it got loud, but there I at least was able to mentally prepare myself for it, and even so, when the staff was able to put the most disruptive kids in timeout for ten minutes, and just be consistent with having multiple people tell them when their behavior was bad, the kids improved their behavior to others greatly, and the older kids were able to sit down quietly and learn things.

The biggest problem on that daycare wasn't the kids, it was the entitled parents.
Title: Re: What grinds my gears!
Post by: Blondbraid on Sun 19/11/2023 12:38:35
It grinds my gears that whenever it's international women's day, you always see a bunch of guys complaining that "But where's the international MEN's day?!",
but there actually IS an international men's day, this very day, November 19, but none of the dudes complaining actually looked it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men%27s_Day