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Title: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: CherrySock on 22 Jul 2016, 11:47
(http://i.imgur.com/uId2YA2.jpg)

Hello, guys.
So, I finally finished my first game with AGS. Hope you'll enjoy it.

Trailer:


You play as police officer John Rivera who unexpectedly gets involved in the investigation of a massive diamond heist

(http://i.imgur.com/ux5VCZk.jpg)

The evidence leads you to the house of the main suspect, a young man named Alexander Spencer. He is missing, unfortunately, but his two sisters are still there and they could be the key to cracking the case and finding the stolen goods.

(http://i.imgur.com/pnhVHMt.jpg)

Diana is the older sister who recently turned 20. She is currently studying at law school where she learned quickly that her beauty holds significant power over men and she never hesitates to use it to her advantage.

(http://i.imgur.com/JpUbd7R.jpg)

18 year old Elizabeth is the complete opposite of her sister. Shy, and quiet, she doesn't have much experience with guys. But is she really as innocent as she seems?

To achieve his goal John will have to discover all the sisters' secrets. How you go about it is entirely your choice. You can try to earn the girls' trust or use intimidation and blackmail to get what you want.

Features:


Where to get

Official website: http://cherrysock.com/?page_id=746
Demo version and buy the game: https://cherrysock.itch.io/sisters-secret

Screenshots (click for full size):

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Title: Re: Sisters' Secret (Explicit adult content)
Post by: Jack on 22 Jul 2016, 12:11
Sexy, sexy. Payment coming your way.

I think the art style is really well-suited to an adventure game, love the clean lines. Doesn't look like I can expect animation in these scenes, but I can hope, right?
Title: Re: Sisters' Secret (Explicit adult content)
Post by: Retro Wolf on 22 Jul 2016, 12:23
The artwork is good, but Hentai games always come off a bit too rapey for my tastes. The girls always look in pain!
Title: Re: Sisters' Secret (Explicit adult content)
Post by: Jack on 22 Jul 2016, 12:27
The artwork is good, but Hentai games always come off a bit too rapey for my tastes. The girls always look in pain!

This is largely a Japanese cultural phenomenon I think, as you will frequently see this in their porn too. I agree, it's off-putting, and that sucks because the Japanese love the bush as much as I do.
Title: Re: Sisters' Secret (Explicit adult content)
Post by: CherrySock on 22 Jul 2016, 12:28
Sexy, sexy. Payment coming your way.

I think the art style is really well-suited to an adventure game, love the clean lines. Doesn't look like I can expect animation in these scenes, but I can hope, right?

You can hope, but better not

The artwork is good, but Hentai games always come off a bit too rapey for my tastes. The girls always look in pain!

There are 2 ways to deal with each sister. A "good" way or a "bad" one. They won't be in pain if you choice the first. ;)
Title: Re: Sisters' Secret (Explicit adult content)
Post by: Retro Wolf on 23 Jul 2016, 20:23
I'll try the demo when I get the chance, and when the wife is sleeping...
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Material)
Post by: LimpingFish on 24 Jul 2016, 00:33
I've taken the liberty to remove the more explicit images you posted, in lieu of discussing the open posting of adult content with my fellow moderators. It's not a big deal, but this is generally an "all ages" kind of place (or, to be more accurate, we rarely have to deal with such content), so I'm erring on the side of caution for now. :)

Congratulations on releasing your first game.

EDIT: Having discussed the topic with some other moderators, the images in question can be re-posted, providing they are behind a spoiler tag. This will prevent them being on general view, but those who wish to see them may do so freely.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: m0ds on 26 Jul 2016, 15:28
Hentai porn and JackLucy fapping to it aside - it'd be good if you could replace the main image in the DB to something less porn please, or risk having it removed. This isn't an adult website, but whilst adult games are not unwelcome, and well done on your first ags game, but you need to come at it from a non-adult angle please, and that includes the imagery in its public places here. That's public not pubic.

Edit. I've replaced that particular image on the db. You can also "edit the information" via the page and put something there of your choosing, but please no overtly pornographic stuff, thanks!
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: WHAM on 31 Jul 2016, 15:32
Huh, interesting to see an adult-oriented AGS game. I toyed around with an idea for one such game before and still consider going back to it periodically, though my project stalls in the fact that I'd need to hire an actual artist for it, driving up development costs and complicating things.

The art style is not quite up my alley, but I'll drop six bucks on it just to support the concept alone.

As for the other conversation: while I agree that the AGS forums aren't a place to showcase adult material outright (as I see it, the game page in it's current iteration is fine), there is no doubt that demand for this stuff exists. Hell, even Steam has begun publishing porn games as "all ages" versions, most of which can be easily switched back to their full versions with minor changes to an .ini -file. And as others mentioned, the issue seems to be that the Japanese offering dominates the market, so western -developed content gets easily overshadowed and ignored despite the clear demand (case and point, a guy making flash-based pornographic text-adventures is making 23,249 US dollars a month on Patreon!).

Congratulations on your first release and I hope you do well!

(Heck! This reminded me of Kinky Island. Wonder how that thing is doing...)
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: m0ds on 01 Aug 2016, 13:31
Yup, people can make what they want with AGS, derranged, deviant, whatever... and they have been since the day CJ offered a free worldwide available internet download I'm sure... But we don't want porn imagery on this website, is the only major point here. The content of a game is not really in question and won't ever be interfered with (unless it's a blatant virus, or if say it would be more to the communities benefit to include a warning or sth on the site about its content) so its really just about warnings. Oh, and not to take it off topic but as you mentioned it - this game and Kinky Island (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/kinky-island#/updates) are in very, very different leagues...if you're after hardcore sex in an adventure game, you're probably better of with this sisters secret ;)

Ok a bit more off topic. I don't think Steam are doors wide open to that stuff yet, especially not from indies. From what I recall - it's only in the last year that they've started to allow indie games with mild sexual content (where sexual content is the main theme). In my case, this is a consideration I've had to keep in mind (although the decision not to make a porn game occurred quite a while back now) - because they would probably still turn away a hardcore game. Some games are clearly sex and then game, but at the moment it's still best to have game first with some sex in it if you want to pass thru the gates of Steam. I don't think Valve intend to have that reputation right now, meaning, I don't think you'll see an 'adult' section on their site any time soon (though, there are specific tags like nudity, mature, etc which could be an indicator that it will be or is being accepted more over time). But you are definitely right that they are testing the water right now or something so it sure would be interesting to see if a game like this 1 (Sisters Secret) could make it there these days ;) The same for KI @ Steam, and that's with borderline adult content & super low-res boobs.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Mandle on 02 Aug 2016, 00:34
I gave the demo a try and the game is very slickly made! I would not for the life of me think that this game had been created in AGS, which shows a lot of dedication on the part of the creator for all the tons of customizing work.

The graphics are quite professional, while lacking very much animation, but hey: Hunie Pop has no animation and it was a HUGE hit. The music is nice, boppy, and somehow "porny". The characters are interesting, not just the cardboard cutout stereotypes seen in most porn, and actually have quite detailed backstories. The plot is also quite deep. In fact I forgot I was supposed to be playing a porn game and totally got invested in solving the mystery. So I think the game fits the criteria Mods mentioned above of "game first with some sex in it". I did only try the demo of course so didn't get to see any of the sex, but the road to the sex (and the end of the demo) was quite long and involved a lot of gameplay and puzzles.

The puzzles were quite good on the most part, although did involve the predictable "a person is blocking your way: figure out how to get rid of them to progress" type quite a bit which might get a bit tired for hardcore adventure game players. Then again, this is probably not at all a bad thing as it gives casual players obvious goals to solve in fairly easy ways (there are one or two tricky bits too, which is nice).

The game also has a great sense of humour! I found myself laughing quite often at some of the ways to get rid of the blocking characters, and the humour ranged from gradeschool snickeries to heavy slapstick to dry farce, which is impressive.

It also seems that the player can make choices along the way to mess around in different ways with the way NPCs feel about and react to each other, which is depth of gameplay I did not expect to find.

I can see this game really taking off and becoming a runaway success IF the creator is able to find the right distribution channel, which would be an amazing thing for AGS!

So, best of luck and job well done!!!

One slight nag:
Spoiler: ShowHide
I found the room exit mechanism a bit inconsistant and sometimes annoying: Sometimes it's an arrow to click, sometimes it's a door...sometimes you have to click through 2-3 locations to get back to the map. Why not just put a map icon at the bottom left corner the player can click on at any time to exit a location and return to the map?
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: CherrySock on 07 Aug 2016, 15:45
Edit. I've replaced that particular image on the db. You can also "edit the information" via the page and put something there of your choosing, but please no overtly pornographic stuff, thanks!

I've put another image. This one should be ok.

So, best of luck and job well done!!!

Thanks
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: DBoyWheeler on 14 Aug 2016, 01:25
*plays the Avenue Q song "The Internet is for Porn"*

Well, at least you provided some "semi-SFW" screenshots, but yeah, thanks for the NSFW warning, and good luck with this game.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Monsieur OUXX on 19 Aug 2016, 16:46
I checkd out the demo and it's actually a very clean game. I like clean games. I'm talking about the finish.
If we compare to the market, I can't tell it's worth 6 dollars, but hey, I'm not an expert.

Watch out though: you seem to have issues with the outline of some sprites : sometimes there is a thin white rectangle around stuff (objects, ovrlays, etc.). It's barely noticeable though.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Dave Gilbert on 24 Aug 2016, 13:56
Visual novels are currently BOOMING on Steam, but there's definitely a bubble. It is bound to pop soon, if it has not already. So if you are going to release a VN there, now is the time.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: m0ds on 25 Aug 2016, 10:37
When Dave Gilbert played a porn novel. The game. Movie.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: CherrySock on 25 Aug 2016, 13:33
Visual novels are currently BOOMING on Steam, but there's definitely a bubble. It is bound to pop soon, if it has not already. So if you are going to release a VN there, now is the time.
Too bad they do not allow adult content. Not porn at least.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Dave Gilbert on 25 Aug 2016, 17:51
Visual novels are currently BOOMING on Steam, but there's definitely a bubble. It is bound to pop soon, if it has not already. So if you are going to release a VN there, now is the time.
Too bad they do not allow adult content. Not porn at least.

Oh they totally do.

Some quick examples from a quick search through Steam:

HuniePop (http://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/339800/)
Sakura Swim Club (http://store.steampowered.com/app/402180/)
Muv Luv (http://store.steampowered.com/app/449830/)

I am friendly with a few VN devs and they tell me the only caveat is to not MARKET it as a porn game on Steam. OFF Steam, all bets are off. Huniepop especially was pretty blatant on social media about what kind of game it was. Your game is relatively tame compared to these. So re-adjust your marketing materials and you should be OK.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: m0ds on 25 Aug 2016, 21:04
When Dave Gilbert promoted the rise of porn games. The movie. Game.

(I know you're here for the Steam conversation, but it's aallmost like you're here for the porn... := )
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: LimpingFish on 25 Aug 2016, 23:50
I am friendly with a few VN devs and they tell me the only caveat is to not MARKET it as a porn game on Steam. OFF Steam, all bets are off. Huniepop especially was pretty blatant on social media about what kind of game it was.

Yeah, the actual game being offered on Steam can't contain any pornographic material, but enabling pornographic content by way of a non-Steam patch is allowed. That's why most VNs are marketed on Steam as "All Ages" versions (which can be enjoyed as their own things, and offer the same story experience as the AO versions), but the devs/publishers offer patches to those who want them.

That's assuming that a version of "Sister's Secret" with the sex removed would work as standalone product, of course. That's the double-edged sword of porn games. Is there enough meat (no pun intended...maybe) to the game to ensure a full, if different, experience to the porn version?
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Jack on 26 Aug 2016, 10:21
Is there enough meat (no pun intended...maybe) to the game to ensure a full, if different, experience to the porn version?

The meat in the game seemed to provide a full experience to its users.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Dave Gilbert on 26 Aug 2016, 14:14
Is that how it's done? I admit that my experience/knowledge of anime porn games is somewhat lacking. (laugh)

I'd suggest contacting some of those other devs and pick their brains. Your game looks a lot less porny then theirs, so I don't think you should have a problem. Especially since Steam is, shall we say, not very vigilant about quality control these days.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Matti on 26 Aug 2016, 22:33
Apropos "less porny": I must really wonder why you can so light-heartedly discuss where you can properly dispatch some porn games while this is a product of someone with despicable rape fantasies (homepage and all) :(

Keeping in mind the probability of spoiling things with some AGS members or moderators, I still have to post this as it really bugs the hell out of me and I thought that this wouldn't happen within this community.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Mandle on 27 Aug 2016, 00:06
Apropos "less porny": I must really wonder why you can so light-heartedly discuss where you can properly dispatch some porn games while this is a product of someone with despicable rape fantasies (homepage and all) :(

Keeping in mind the probability of spoiling things with some AGS members or moderators, I still have to post this as it really bugs the hell out of me and I thought that this wouldn't happen within this community.

To be fair to the game, it lets the player choose what kind of person they will be...You don't have to rape anyone...

That's a lot better than most similar kinds of games that force the player down that path.

Also:

"despicable rape fantasies"...well...as long as they remain fantasies then who is hurt?

Stephen King doesn't go around in real life trying to kill people with an ax either (that I know of)...He just writes about it...
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Jack on 27 Aug 2016, 01:53
Apropos "less porny": I must really wonder why you can so light-heartedly discuss where you can properly dispatch some porn games while this is a product of someone with despicable rape fantasies (homepage and all) :(

Keeping in mind the probability of spoiling things with some AGS members or moderators, I still have to post this as it really bugs the hell out of me and I thought that this wouldn't happen within this community.

What reaction would you have if the protagonist of an AGS game could murder someone in the game?

None at all?
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: LimpingFish on 27 Aug 2016, 02:03
Apropos "less porny": I must really wonder why you can so light-heartedly discuss where you can properly dispatch some porn games while this is a product of someone with despicable rape fantasies (homepage and all) :(

Keeping in mind the probability of spoiling things with some AGS members or moderators, I still have to post this as it really bugs the hell out of me and I thought that this wouldn't happen within this community.

Well, also keep in mind that most of us haven't played it, and are also unaware of the developers outside work. It is very unfortunate that a lot of hentai (and, for that matter, regular porn) seems obsessed with dominating women to the point of rape, but...actually, I don't know how to finish that sentence without initiating a very complex debate, resulting in much spittle and gnashing of teeth from all involved. And nobody wants that!

What reaction would you have if the protagonist of an AGS game could murder someone in the game?

None at all?

Let's not go down that road. The argument that vile crime "A" is equal to/greater than vile crime "B", therefore people must react accordingly, is one of the more pointless internet pissing matches. As is the one where objecting to content one finds offensive automatically equals censorship and is therefore evil. Let's nip that one in bud right now.


Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Jack on 27 Aug 2016, 10:44
Let's not go down that road. The argument that vile crime "A" is equal to/greater than vile crime "B", therefore people must react accordingly, is one of the more pointless internet pissing matches. As is the one where objecting to content one finds offensive automatically equals censorship and is therefore evil. Let's nip that one in bud right now.

No, it's a double standard, it comes 1:1 from the media, and it's bullshit. I don't care how many times that has been pointed out in the past, it's still bullshit.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Matti on 27 Aug 2016, 18:40
To be fair to the game, it lets the player choose what kind of person they will be...You don't have to rape anyone...
What reaction would you have if the protagonist of an AGS game could murder someone in the game?

I know that it's a choice in the game (which I haven't played) but that doesn't change the fact that the idea of the choice to rape women as well as the graphical execution of that requires some sort of pleasure in doing so. I wasn't surprised seeing that I was right as I suspected this from the beginning. Really, no surprise there.

Quote from: Mandle
Stephen King doesn't go around in real life trying to kill people with an ax either (that I know of)...He just writes about it...

You're right and I'm not saying that CherrySock is going around raping people. But here's the thing:

1. There's a huge difference in how you present a thing. Why do you harm people? What people do you harm? Is there a murderer running around killing people or are you the murderer and find enjoyment in doing so? I find all these tortureporn stories disgusting as well.

2. There's a very huge difference between killing a person for some reason (usually there is one and you have enemies of some sort who want to harm you, but that's another topic) and raping women if you like to. The second case is a product of the disgusting way million of men look at half of the planet's population with all brutal consequences.

Quote from: Mandle
...well...as long as they remain fantasies then who is hurt?

Yeah, I'm (somewhat) happy if something like this stays a fantasy and doesn't end in action. Still, the fantasy itself (or the overall thoughts that lead to it) is the problem and precedes the behavior towards people (well, women that is). And it doesn't need actual raping for women to receive a shitload of physical and psychological violence all the time all over the world, due to how so many men look at them.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Jack on 27 Aug 2016, 19:18
Still, the fantasy itself (or the overall thoughts that lead to it) is the problem and precedes the behavior towards people (well, women that is). And it doesn't need actual raping for women to receive a shitload of physical and psychological violence all the time all over the world, due to how so many men look at them.

People's fantasies are the problem? You claim they lead to physical and mental abuse against women. What do you base that on?

Turns out that a large number of people who fantasize about rape are women, says wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_fantasy).
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: faerieevenstar on 27 Aug 2016, 20:18
I don't think I'm going to download this.. probably ever. Even for free. As a survivor of rape, the idea of this abhors me. It's not something to joke about. I've been through ten years of therapy and I'm still agoraphobic. Why on earth would ANYONE put that in a game?? And, fyi, before you say I don't like it because it's sex with women, and because I'm female I wouldn't enjoy it, I LOVE Leisure Suit Larry, and other games of that ilk, and I'm pansexual, so it would appeal to me.. bar the f***ing rape!! I also like an option in game to be good or evil to an extent.. but with graphic sex scenes (I'm guessing) which are potentially assault, I don't think that's ok.

I* don't like to bring my personal experiences into stuff like this on the whole, but as game developers, you guys need to know a LOT of people of all genders are survivors of abuse, and this type of gameplay is very insensitive to the severe trauma we have been through..  I know that here in the UK, nearly half a million adults are sexually assaulted in England and Wales each year. If you think about that, it's a large percentage of your potential buyers.

I don't want to whine or preach, just putting it out there.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: LimpingFish on 28 Aug 2016, 01:44
Okay, let's everybody calm down for a moment.

Since few, if any, of us have actually played the game, and Matti's original complaint was that this was a product from someone who may or may not see rape as an acceptable sexual fantasy (and therefore should not be encouraged or discussed in anything other than a negative way), has anyone witnessed an actual graphic scene of rape in the game? Judging from the screenshots available, the game seems to have some explicit BDSM content, combined with the usual male domination fantasy (which, right or wrong, is a common facet of modern pornography, whatever the medium...)

It doesn't float my boat, and I find it a particularly distasteful form of titillation, but it has it's audience.

Rape is a horrifying crime. What I've described above may be offensive to some, even disgusting, but it's not a crime. Again, I haven't played the game, I'm only commenting on the available screenshots on the developers website.

Now, to put on my mod hat for a moment, I'll going to allow this discussion to continue only if it directly relates to the game itself. This is not the place for a broader debate on how society views certain areas of pornography, and it's certainly not the place for us to tackle a subject a serious as rape.

Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Jack on 28 Aug 2016, 10:40
Technically what happens in the game is blackmail. Not sure what the correct term is, possibly sexual coercion. The definition of rape varies. Some people consider sexual harassment a form of sexual assault, while the definition of assault is quite clear.

What I think should be kept in mind is that rape and rape fantasy are not the same thing. Like I stated previously, the game's negative path is not my thing, but I think the only place these kind of things should be expressed is in fantasy and art.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Mandle on 28 Aug 2016, 11:01
Technically what happens in the game is blackmail. Not sure what the correct term is, possibly sexual coercion.

Yes, I think this is an important point. I have only played the demo, but that was enough to see that if you choose the "asshole" path then you can hold incriminating evidence over the girls' heads and blackmail them into having sex with you.

While this is clearly a crime, a very sleazy thing to do, and a big no-no, it's not a violent attack and rape like what many people are probably imagining happens.

Similar themes were used in mainstream TV dramas like "Dallas" and "Vegas", and even daytime soaps like "Days Of Our Lives"...although the actual act was not graphically shown of course. But the morally repulsive act of sexual blackmail remains unchanged whether the act is shown or not. I'm just saying that the themes in this game are probably not quite as extreme as what many are imagining: It's no "Naked Fear"...
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Dave Gilbert on 28 Aug 2016, 17:01
OK. After looking at the screenshots on the website, this puts a new spin on things. Going to try and stick to the facts instead of getting into a moral debate (which is better served by people more intelligent than me).

Earlier I posted examples of anime porn games that made it through Steam. Huniepop, for example, is a ridiculous cheesecake-fest, but everything that happens in that game is between consenting adults and everyone was willing and eager to participate. It's very sex-positive and focuses on the fun. Judging by the screenshots posted on the Sisters' Secret website, words like "fun", "willing" and "eager" are... um, not the right words. I can see why Steam wouldn't want this type of game on their site. I wouldn't want this game on my site, either.

This isn't to say you can't find an audience for this stuff. It's that you are going to have a much harder time of it. And if you are looking for a distributor to sell it for you? That just compounds the problem even further.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: CherrySock on 30 Aug 2016, 10:24
Whoa, that's a heated discussion going on here.
The only thing I have to say: you've been warned about the content, don't play, if you don't like it.

The game is available on dlsite now: http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ182844.html
It's a japaneses site, so the product is censored there. But you can easily remove it (visit my website for instructions). Cheers!
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Furwerkstudio on 13 Sep 2016, 03:06
Kind of sad, and really defeating when wanting to make any game, when people have a full blow hiss fit about "rape fantasies" in a b grade indie game as offensive when there are games that allows one to eat baby guts in a sewer made out of human flesh of innocent people in Triple A gaming.

It's just fantasy, it does not hurt anyone.

Of course I wonder if a lot of this stuff is really thinly veiled Japanese hate too, as a lot of people are turning their noses at them, visual novels and the whole medium because it does not meet their "high standards."
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Khris on 13 Sep 2016, 09:22
The guy that never gets back to his technical questions lectures us how rape is not real, just like sewers made of flesh. (roll)
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: NickyNyce on 13 Sep 2016, 21:06
I do think that there a million ways to upset someone in video games. War games, killing innocent people, murder, blackmail, kidnapping, peeping toms. These are all real things that happen in the world, but for some reason they all get a free pass. Is this because it's just a game? Is it because you're the one trying to catch and or kill the bad guy? Should all these games be deemed bad? After all, I'm sure lots and lots of people have had experiences in the real world with these types of things, but yet there is plenty to read, watch and play.

Just my opinion, but it's very easy to say, nope, I don't like this and not play it. Like people have said, this is a video game, not real life. Shouldn't all books, movies and sitcoms be frowned upon too? I don't think you can pick one thing and not everything.

I have actually thought about making a game where you're the murderer. Am I insane for thinking about this? Maybe? But it's a different spin on, I'm the detective trying to kill or catch the murderer. People used to cheer when Jason in friday the 13th and Michael myers killed people in the movie theaters.

Im sorry if I sound insensitive.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: CherrySock on 03 Oct 2016, 11:58
Hello guys

I did a short trailer for the game:


I also started to work on a new one. It's called "Sex & the Sea". Learn more on my site: http://cherrysock.com/?page_id=1211
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: MUFFINinc on 04 Oct 2016, 09:50
lol this is why I usually save porn game discussions for anonymous message boards.  As to this game I am curious to play it just for the novelty; you don't really see that many adventure games that are just outright porn, but I now find myself kind of wondering why not.  Downloaded the demo, will give it a whirl.

I have actually thought about making a game where you're the murderer.

I've wanted to do that, too.  If you think about it most adventure game protagonists tend to be a little on the antisocial side anyway; these games constantly have the player destroying property or stealing things or doing generally mean things to innocent people.  Murder isn't that much of a stretch, and it would make for some interesting gameplay.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Crimson Wizard on 04 Oct 2016, 13:40
Sorry for offtopic (I keep wondering if that is allowed here) -
I have actually thought about making a game where you're the murderer.

I've wanted to do that, too.  If you think about it most adventure game protagonists tend to be a little on the antisocial side anyway; these games constantly have the player destroying property or stealing things or doing generally mean things to innocent people.  Murder isn't that much of a stretch, and it would make for some interesting gameplay.

There was such game... and pretty high rated :)
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/602/
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: NickyNyce on 04 Oct 2016, 15:02
Thanks CW, I'll check this out.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Mandle on 04 Oct 2016, 16:10
Thanks CW, I'll check this out.

It's a great game... I played it last year...

Quite disturbing as well...
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: Blondbraid on 04 Oct 2016, 17:58

It's a great game... I played it last year...

Quite disturbing as well...
Emily Enough is probably one of my favorite games, not just favorite AGS game, but favorite game period. The protagonist does some pretty bad things, but it's done in a clever and well-written way.
Title: Re: (NSFW) Sisters' Secret (Explicit Adult Content)
Post by: MUFFINinc on 06 Oct 2016, 04:44
That does look interesting, I will have a look.