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Title: Loom and Tchaikovsky
Post by: Radiant on Fri 04/05/2018 21:26:00
The classic LucasArts adventure game LOOM uses music from Tchaikovsky. I would like to know which pieces they are, so that I can find an orchestral version on Youtube. Perhaps some more musically inclined AGS'ers can help me out with this?

The glassblower's guild (Crystalgard) plays the Dance of the Little Swans from Swan Lake, and the climatic scene with Chaos at the Loom plays the Finale from Swan Lake. But I've been unable to find the other songs, and I'm pretty sure it's not all Swan Lake either. In particular, what is the intro music, what's Herschel's leitmotif, and what is the song from the blacksmith guild? Thank you for your help!

Loom soundtrack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWXxl1oPxGU).
Title: Re: Loom and Tchaikovsky
Post by: ManicMatt on Fri 04/05/2018 23:41:30
Is this what you want? You have to scroll down a fair bit.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/loom/trivia
Title: Re: Loom and Tchaikovsky
Post by: Radiant on Sat 05/05/2018 11:18:29
Great, thank you!
Title: Re: Loom and Tchaikovsky
Post by: Durq on Sat 05/05/2018 21:16:00
Radiant, is your interest in this related to a new project?
Title: Re: Loom and Tchaikovsky
Post by: Radiant on Sun 06/05/2018 07:33:02
No, I just love the music :)

I am interested in a new project later in the year (not right now, I've got a 4X strategy game to finish coding), but that project would not be related to Loom.
Title: Re: Loom and Tchaikovsky
Post by: Monsieur OUXX on Wed 09/05/2018 13:53:37
Thread hijack : I once went to a concerto where the artists duet was claiming to play some Bach. It was some sort of medley, or short pieces played one after the other.

Both musicians knew how to play several instruments, and depending on the pieces they were playing they were switching instruments. Most of the time one was playing the violin and the other one was playing the cello or the piano.

At some point, they played a piece involving bells (Nowadays I don't remember if they were actual bells or bells on a synth -- it doesn't matter). I recognized that tune : it's the tune played when Indiana Jones rides the camel in the desert, in Fate of Atlantis. When he's looking for the nazi digsite in Algeria.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u2u48MlA48


I've never managed to find that so-called Bach tune. So, I'm perplexed : is it just a hard-to-find Bach piece that was ripped by the LucasArts composer, OR is it the other way around: did the musicians sneak a rearranged videogame track into their little concerto?

There was no mistake, though. It was the same tune.
Title: Re: Loom and Tchaikovsky
Post by: ollj on Fri 16/11/2018 00:12:27
a lot of melody/music is extremely memetic "referencing tracks", overused, resampled, contextualized, reassociated, reapropriated, comemrcialized
, but predates the concept of memetics or fads, to a point where the same melody goes by 4 different nouns and 10 different interpreters

over a time span of 50+ years, with tempo/style changes from NurseryRhime to singAlong to Lullaby/ballad to Folklore to Rag to to Jive to Jazz to RockNRoll to rap, with very constant melody/chord/rythms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGM7PsXGkgg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_of_Venice_(song)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Green_Bottles

one master of summing up a lot of those is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl0Ewjo5guU&t=89s
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfj7rOunAq7PopmqinGquLw

and then movies/plays/attractions get renamed after a musical score (Its a small world after all)
Or musical tracks get almost officially renamed after the movies or trailers they are used in (Lux Aeterna)
Because these art forms coexist and pay homages, all during ones lifetime, and you can trace label-changes trough wikipedia edits, of a rose by any other name.
Title: Re: Loom and Tchaikovsky
Post by: ollj on Fri 16/11/2018 00:38:26
there exist 2 huge midi collections online
one is 50k midis from geocities, 90s homepage midis, immortalized as torrent collection
another one is
https://www.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/3ajwe4/the_largest_midi_collection_on_the_internet/

so, are you brave enough to search though those?

or just use a mobile phone app that does fourier-analysis matching of your hummed melody to a database of labels.