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Title: [CANCELED] Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style
Post by: imsomnia212 on Sat 14/07/2018 11:28:31
Update 07/20/18: This game is no longer in production because I start a personal game with the same sprite style and humor, sorry. If you want to help, feel free to contact me.

Since I felt in love with "Day of the Tentacle" and recently with "Thimbleweed Park" I have a question in mind: How this will look in the DOTT Style?

So after a lot of hard work it's time to announce:

Thimbleweed Park (Remake)

(http://i.imgur.com/UaWP6zN.jpg)

I know here are some people that love DOTT, and Thimbleweed Park is a game that happen in the same universe (the Edison's house is the same of Delores) and the game have a lot of references to "Maniac Mansion".

Here are some screenshots:

(http://i.imgur.com/iqeDrc3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/472d3os.jpg)

The game will be in Spanish and English.

The Progress:
Reyes animations are finished and the playable characters are almost done.
The backgrounds 25%
The items 65%
Animations/Sprites 20%
Secondary Characters/Sprites 10%

I don't have a date of release because I'm the only person working on this, and is in my free time so the progress is slow.
Anyone that is interested in help with this let me know.
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: Click'd on Sat 14/07/2018 11:49:57
Looks good. Gameplay stays the same though, right?
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: Mandle on Sat 14/07/2018 14:15:24
Ron Gilbert is either gonna be pissed and slap a C&D on you, or secretly play your remake, love it, sue you for control of all assets, win, and then add it to Thimbleweed Park as a playable Easter Egg on a computer somewhere in the original game.
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: Babar on Sat 14/07/2018 14:16:22
You realise you're going to have trouble if you try and release this game, right? :sealed:
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: selmiak on Sun 15/07/2018 13:23:18
oh this is great, please do it :)
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: Jojo_the_monkey on Sun 15/07/2018 18:26:03
That's the second most amazing project I have ever seen!!!!
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: BunnyShoggoth on Mon 16/07/2018 04:34:50
Awesometastic!!! I don't think there will be any problems with this project, since Ron is very tolerant towards fangames: just "label them as such, respect the world and the characters and don't claim they are canon". One thing I was curious about, will it have exactly the same plot/puzzles, or are you planning to change something? I really love it when remakes somehow reimagine the original storyline, give it a new meaning or add new plot branches.
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: Mandle on Mon 16/07/2018 05:38:03
Quote from: BunnyShoggoth on Mon 16/07/2018 04:34:50
I don't think there will be any problems with this project, since Ron is very tolerant towards fangames

Hmmmm... there may be a difference in his opinion towards fan games like the Maniac Mansion Mania series where the characters are used in completely new story lines and a game that completely copies the story and gameplay of a game he is currently selling.

If this project is completed and is an exact copy of the original comcerning the gameplay and story then if will mean that people can play Thimbleweed Park for free if they don't want to pay the money for the real thing.

I realise that it won't have the same voice acting and perhaps not every animation or cutscene but people will still be able to choose it over the commercial product and have a similar experience.

This might not be looked on so generously as, say, the AGS remake of Maniac Mansion, a game which is no longer earning Ron Gilbert, and his team, money.

I don't want to be negative about what looks like a great project but it would be a shame if a lot of effort was going into something which might never be able to be released.
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: Danvzare on Wed 18/07/2018 11:14:53
Firstly, I love the concept, and those backgrounds are incredible! The sprites are a bit bad, but I'm sure they'll be improved later.

Now, as for the potential legality of this.
This is cutting it close. Fan remakes are always illegal as far as I know, but most fan remakes are for game that are quite old, and so no one really cares if they're remade. Thimbleweed Park was released last year!
Buuuuuuuuuut, assuming this fan remake is ever finished, then by the time it is finished, Thimbleweed Park will be getting close to ten years old (I mean just look at how long Night of the Meteor and Meteor Mess 3D are taking). In which case I think Ron Gilbert would be glad for the free marketing of the game he made that no one is buying anymore. Heck, by that point in time, I bet Thimbleweed Park would have been given away in a giveaway on GOG or something.

So I wish you guys luck.
Keep us updated.
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: Durq on Wed 18/07/2018 23:50:49
imsomnia212, you clearly have artistic talent, so I'm curious if you have plans to make an original game?
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: BunnyShoggoth on Thu 19/07/2018 02:14:05
Quote from: Mandle on Mon 16/07/2018 05:38:03
If this project is completed and is an exact copy of the original comcerning the gameplay and story then if will mean that people can play Thimbleweed Park for free if they don't want to pay the money for the real thing.

I realise that it won't have the same voice acting and perhaps not every animation or cutscene but people will still be able to choose it over the commercial product and have a similar experience.

This might not be looked on so generously as, say, the AGS remake of Maniac Mansion, a game which is no longer earning Ron Gilbert, and his team, money.

I don't want to be negative about what looks like a great project but it would be a shame if a lot of effort was going into something which might never be able to be released.
Well, that can be a reason to somewhat change/reimagine the original storyline; I have some experience with storywriting, so I think I can help you with that :smiley:
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: imsomnia212 on Fri 20/07/2018 00:44:24
Mandle and Danvzare I thought that before starting this project and I was planning to add new puzzles, characters, location and more things, but after seeing your comments I don't want to lose my time on something that maybe I never can release, so I decided to start an own game, and recycle some sprites and things that I made for Thimbleweed. I already have a story for this personal game and maybe can be interesting.

Quote from: BunnyShoggoth on Thu 19/07/2018 02:14:05
I have some experience with storywriting, so I think I can help you with that :smiley:

As I wrote above, I start an own game, keeping the dott/Sam and Max style and humor I have some old sprites of characters that I made and a story wroted a long time ago, maybe you can be interested in help me on this with your experience in storywriting and more (I can send you the story, sprites, ideas and stuffs that I have)
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: BunnyShoggoth on Fri 20/07/2018 01:05:30
Quote from: imsomnia212 on Fri 20/07/2018 00:44:24
As I wrote above, I start an own game, keeping the dott/Sam and Max style and humor I have some old sprites of characters that I made and a story wroted a long time ago, maybe you can be interested in help me on this with your experience in storywriting and more (I can send you the story, sprites, ideas and stuffs that I have)

That would be great, I happen to have some ideas for exactly this kind of game, and would love to share them! ;)
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: imsomnia212 on Fri 20/07/2018 04:59:32
Quote from: BunnyShoggoth on Fri 20/07/2018 01:05:30
That would be great, I happen to have some ideas for exactly this kind of game, and would love to share them! ;)

Where I can contact you? So I send you my idea and some wip things.
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: Mandle on Fri 20/07/2018 08:26:58
Wooohooo! An original game is 1000 times better than a remake in my book!

Best of luck guys!
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: Cassiebsg on Fri 20/07/2018 09:18:58
Neat! :)
Looking forward to it! Also, don't throw away what you have, you can still use them in your original game. Change it slightly if it looks too much like a copy of the original. (nod)(nod)
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: imsomnia212 on Fri 20/07/2018 10:05:53
Quote from: Mandle on Fri 20/07/2018 08:26:58
Wooohooo! An original game is 1000 times better than a remake in my book!

Best of luck guys!

Yeah, I always want to make an original game but I was a little bad with storywriting but I think is time to make it happen.
I'm excited to show you all how this will look.
Thanks you for the support.

Quote from: Cassiebsg on Fri 20/07/2018 09:18:58
Neat! :)
you can still use them in your original game. Change it slightly if it looks too much like a copy of the original. (nod)(nod)
Yeah I planning to use some things that I made for the Thimbleweed remake. Today I was working on some characters and bgs, I'm exciting to show some of this in the future.
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Fri 20/07/2018 12:13:59
So is this game no longer in production?
Title: Re: Thimbleweed Park - DOTT Style (in progress)
Post by: imsomnia212 on Fri 20/07/2018 23:48:28
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Fri 20/07/2018 12:13:59
So is this game no longer in production?
Yes, you can close it.