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Title: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Ꙭ on Sat 05/01/2019 17:43:47
edited out by request

edited short in:
There has been a mentioning of #clubgalen at irc.clubgalen.com placed on the AGS community site for many years. It'll be kind if that link would be put back.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Galen on Sat 05/01/2019 17:55:34
Hmm, sounds like a cool place full of handsome people.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Sat 05/01/2019 18:03:25
hi there
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Jack on Sat 05/01/2019 19:51:13
It's just like TMA says. I've been there. All they talk about is ââ€"ˆââ€"ˆââ€"ˆââ€"ˆ.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Galen on Sat 05/01/2019 21:05:02
Quote from: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Sat 05/01/2019 18:03:25
what the hell is this?  A newly created far right ags community?
So you needed to create a group that felt comfortable with each other in making a sport out of De-huminising other people

You're reading a lot into one single member choosing to support widespread protests in their AGS forum profile. The leap from 'supports fuel tax protestors' to 'far right fanatic bent on dehumanising others' is extreme enough without you then applying it to a channel they're merely a member of and labelling us a hate group. It's just the chatroom from Adventure Game Archives splintered off now that that site has died, nothing more. Let alone the spectacular niché that an Adventure Game Studio far-right hate IRC channel would be.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Sat 05/01/2019 21:15:08
hi there again
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Ꙭ on Sat 05/01/2019 22:00:06
Thanks for putting the blame on me, @Tacho Magnetic Anomaly.

I gonna ask a moderator to take a quick look into the entire discussion and decide who's the crazy person here, me - or you.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Jack on Sat 05/01/2019 22:15:27
Quote from: Friendly Explorer on Sat 05/01/2019 22:00:06
and decide who's the crazy person here, me - or you.

After a dozen personas and hundreds of deleted posts, we'll finally get the answer.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Ꙭ on Sat 05/01/2019 23:11:34
I have a good feeling this time.  :smiley:

EDIT:
Moderator Reply regarding the accusation of founding a far right hate chat group making a sport in De-huminising others:
"It appears to have been addressed in the thread with Galen's correction."
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Dualnames on Sun 06/01/2019 19:10:48
We're all NAZIs and talk about abusing people. lol who is spreading these rumors, it's just a bunch of people typing about cats and making fun of galen.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Tycho Magnetic Anomaly on Sun 06/01/2019 20:15:32
your protest of accusation is invalidated by the fact you have now not just modified your original post, changed avatar and nick slogan, but completely re-written any original reference of your original post, no doubt specifically designed to make my reaction look worse then it actually was.

Therefore I will also delete any previous conversions I created in response until the original post is returned intact, undoctored.

whether or not this irc chan is what it is, your original post certainly didn't put it a good light.  If you take on an ambassador role for said chan at least start with not trying to device people on what you original said by re-writing it to tailor it to gain support from my "accusation".

tbh, I'm not sure which is worst, your original post, or the fact you think re-writing it completely 3 times(perhaps more) to make others look bad is OK.


I am done with this thread, best of luck with it alll
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Snarky on Sun 06/01/2019 21:53:11
<Reluctant mod hat>

OK, that's enough.

The original post was open to all sorts of interpretations, but TMA, you were informed pretty quickly that Club Galen is not "a newly created far right ags community", and you could and should have walked back that comment. And we can all make up our own minds about people's motives, there's no need for these accusations, which skirt forum rules. Don't get carried away by nicotine withdrawal.

At the same time, it's true that forum members should use caution and careful judgment when editing past posts in a thread, precisely because it can easily be taken for an attempt to manipulate the record to make yourself look good or others look bad. Edits should be as minimal as possible: if you no longer stand by something, it's almost always better to strike it out or put it behind a spoiler than delete it completely. Or just think twice in the first place before posting something you're gonna want to take back. "Friendly Explorer": show better judgment in the future (but the same goes for everyone).
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: LimpingFish on Sun 06/01/2019 22:42:52
"I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member."
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Jack on Sun 06/01/2019 22:58:34
Is there a newly created far right AGS community?
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Gurok on Mon 07/01/2019 00:01:31
This is so funny because everyone knows #clubgalen is full of pinkos.

The official #ags is the go-to destination for fair and balanced conversation. One thing we will never discuss, however, is the yellow vest protests. Tax protests are basically akin to genocide.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Jack on Mon 07/01/2019 00:22:52
I don't go to #AGS any more because Russian hackers congregate there around their leader, Babar.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: qptain Nemo on Fri 11/01/2019 17:24:08
Someone in #cg asked me to inquire if any kind of decision or official response has been made by the site / forum staff regarding removal of the mention of Club Galen from the community section. I've been told that an inquiry into this has been promised to Amy in private communication.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Jack on Fri 11/01/2019 18:09:53
It now trolls from beyond the grave.

Was Amelie really banned, or is it another lie?
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Snarky on Fri 11/01/2019 18:51:41
I don't know about an inquiry, but I agreed to forward her request to the moderators, which I did.

As it turns out, the link was removed in the course of the site update because AGA judged that Club Galen isn't so AGS-related that it makes sense to link it "officially", but more of a hangout space for a relatively small group of friends. After Amy raised the issue, a few moderators who've been active on Club Galen weighed in, and supported the evaluation. If that impression is wrong, and Club Galen is full of discussion about AGS, games made in AGS, or the AGS community, perhaps it could be reconsidered.

It's of course perfectly fine to have a thread for it in the forums, put it in your user profiles, make a Wiki page for it, etc., the way other community things that are more social in nature (like Mittens) are represented.

And yes, the "Friendly Explorer" account (only) has been banned, in the first instance as a duplicate user account in contravention of earlier moderator warnings against spawning new accounts.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: cat on Fri 11/01/2019 18:54:42
@qptain Nemo:
There is still this thread:
https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=49257.0 (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=49257.0)

I don't think a general mention of Club Galen is a problem, but this thread here got too many edited and/or aggressive posts.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Jack on Fri 11/01/2019 18:58:20
Did the moderators discuss adding any yellow vest videos or links to the community page?

Aliens asked me to make this inquiry.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: milkanannan on Sun 13/01/2019 07:00:41
I hung out in there for a few months in 2018. No far right talk then. I wonder what happened?
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: LimpingFish on Wed 16/01/2019 23:16:12
Remind me again why a second IRC channel was needed in the first place?
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Jack on Thu 17/01/2019 00:00:08
The moral attitudes of #ags at the time was such that it didn't allow the full range of expression required to get to the bottom of the hard hitting discussions. Put another way, someone was kicked for saying penis and a channel was created where they could say penis all day long.
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: Click'd on Thu 17/01/2019 04:25:02
When you gotta say penis, you gotta say penis.  :-D
Title: Re: Where's Club Galen?
Post by: milkanannan on Thu 17/01/2019 12:06:44
Quote from: Jack on Thu 17/01/2019 00:00:08
The moral attitudes of #ags at the time was such that it didn't allow the full range of expression required to get to the bottom of the hard hitting discussions. Put another way, someone was kicked for saying penis and a channel was created where they could say penis all day long.
Was someone really kicked for saying penis?