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Title: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 03 Oct 2019, 06:23
IF ON A WINTER'S NIGHT, FOUR TRAVELERS

or

A tale of dark and troubling things

(A free point-and-click adventure anthology in four acts.)


A train. A masked ball. Four strangers and their stories.



THE SILENT ROOM


(Progress: complete.)

In a luxurious hotel room in Rome, freshly arrived from Turin, Carlo awaits for his lover Patrick to arrive. Yet even in the wild and roaring 1920s, these rendezvous must be held in secret, and the tension of meeting in constant hiding is taking its toll.

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(Main influences: The Talented Mr. Ripley, Inland Empire, and the unsolved mystery of Room 1046.)





THE SLOW VANISHING OF LADY WINTERBOURNE
(Progress: 40%)

Lady Winterbourne has lost her husband in a tragic accident. Now letters from pretenders to her title -- and her vast fortune -- keep arriving every day at her mansion, but the only thing she's interested in is the bottle of laudanum she keeps in her cabinet.


(https://img.itch.zone/aW1hZ2UvNjY5OTg4LzM3NDE5MjAuZ2lm/original/rw4ezt.gif)

(Main influences: my own experiences with substance abuse, loss, grief, and suicidal ideation.)



THE NAMELESS RITUAL
(Progress: 20%)

Downtrodden by the racism of the American medical establishment, Dr. Jordan Samuels has resorted to the Dark Arts in an attempt to achieve the success denied to him by his peers. However, when the nightmares begin, he starts thinking he might have bitten off more than he can chew.

(Main influences: The Knick (TV show), Doctor Faustus, any stories in which somebody finds Something Beyond Human Understanding that drives them to insanity such as The King in Yellow, Le Horla, H.P. Lovecraft's works in general, etc.)



IF ON A WINTER'S NIGHT
(Progress: 50%)

Laylah likes her job, but sometimes she yearns for a bit of variety. So any time the opportunity arises for her to experience something different from her daily routine, she will take it -- even if it means going against her very powerful bosses' orders.

(Main influences: Dr. Terror's House of Horrors.)


BROUGHT TO YOU BY:

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Laura Hunt (https://laurahunt.itch.io/): coding, writing, music & sound design, game design.

Thomas Möhring (https://thomacek.artstation.com/): art, animations, cutscenes, game design.



Additional music (so far!):

- Jack Stillman & Orchestra, At peace with the world (Irving Berlin, 1926). Restored mp3 transfer of original recording licensed under Creative Commons BY-NC 2.5 by the University of California, Santa Barbara Library.

- Walter Scanlan, Always (Irving Berlin, 1925). Restored mp3 transfer of original recording licensed under Creative Commons BY-NC 2.5 by the University of California, Santa Barbara Library.

- Gerluz, Serenade for Strings Op. 22 - II. Menuetto (Antonin Dvorak, 1875).  Licensed under Creative Commons CC BY-NC-ND 3.0.

- Emanuel Salvador, 3 Old Viennese Dances - I. Liebesleid (Fritz Kreisler, 1910). Licensed under Creative Commons CC BY 3.0.

- Gnossiene No. 1 (Erik Satie, ca. 1890). Piano performance by Edward Rosser, from public domain recording. Harp performance arranged by Laura Hunt from MIDI file by unknown sequencer.

- Lady Winterbourne's Theme by Laura Hunt, inspired by Rachmaninoff's Prelude in C# Minor Op. 3, No. 2.


This post will be updated with new screenshots as we have more to show for the following acts!

Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Mandle on 03 Oct 2019, 07:12
An anthology adventure game with strong horror elements?!

Where have you been all my life?!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 03 Oct 2019, 08:32
Hahaha (laugh)

I feel that I should mention, in order to temper expectations (https://media3.giphy.com/media/JYRTaO3vkAenS/giphy.gif) and avoid future disappointments, that there is no inventory and the game is mostly task-based rather than puzzle-based, with a strong focus, like my previous games, on narrative and emotional impact rather than gameplay. Again, this doesn't mean that it'll be a passive "interactive experience" or a "visual novel" or anything of the sort, but at the same time, don't expect much in the way of riddles or brain teasers :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: cat on 03 Oct 2019, 09:30
Is this in any way related to Italo Calvino's book (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_on_a_winter%27s_night_a_traveler), or only a pun on the title?
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 03 Oct 2019, 09:50
Is this in any way related to Italo Calvino's book (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_on_a_winter%27s_night_a_traveler), or only a pun on the title?

Only the title, the "stories-within-a-story" format, and maybepossiblylikely an in-game reference or two as a wink to anybody who has read the book ;)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: TheFrighter on 03 Oct 2019, 11:55

And it have a cool photography, also!


(Main influences: my own experiences with substance abuse, loss, grief, and suicidal ideation.)


What?!

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Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Cassiebsg on 03 Oct 2019, 11:57
Cool, nice to finally see a thread for this game!  :-D
I must admit. I had to zoom in the last picture to make sure the guy had clothes on!   (laugh)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 03 Oct 2019, 13:24
Cool, nice to finally see a thread for this game!  :-D
I must admit. I had to zoom in the last picture to make sure the guy had clothes on!   (laugh)

Hahaha you're not the first :-D Hopefully nobody will play at 1x but you never know!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Kastchey on 03 Oct 2019, 13:44
I love the concept which resembles a book of horror short stories made point&click, and the artwork is stunning. Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Jack on 03 Oct 2019, 19:23
Nice background art!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: eri0o on 05 Oct 2019, 02:53
I really like the art and premises of this game. Can't wait for it.  8-0

I am cool with narrative and emotional impact :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 05 Oct 2019, 06:54
Thanks, guys! Feeling extra pressured now to live up to the expectations :-D
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: milkanannan on 05 Oct 2019, 06:56
This looks so cool! Good luck guys!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Creamy on 05 Oct 2019, 09:39
Looks and sounds awesome.

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The Talented Mr. Ripley
That's a brillant nerve-wracking movie. My sister in law walked out of the screening.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: imsomnia212 on 06 Oct 2019, 20:10
I really love the art, I don't know why but it reminds me of habbo (I don't know if you know what game is) and the premises of the game have a lot of potential, can't wait for it!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 06 Oct 2019, 20:57
I really love the art, I don't know why but it reminds me of habbo

Ahahaha now, that's a comparison I wasn't expecting to hear (laugh)

Looks and sounds awesome.

Quote
The Talented Mr. Ripley
That's a brillant nerve-wracking movie. My sister in law walked out of the screening.

Yes! The artist went through a bit of an obsession with that movie. At the same time, I was watching Inland Empire for like the 6th time. I don't even know what's come out of this combination of influences in the end. I guess we'll know once people play it!

Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 14 Oct 2019, 22:00
We have a logo now! This is getting serious.

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Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: TheFrighter on 15 Oct 2019, 08:09

I'm really curious about the italian part! Who helped you in that?

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Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Deabriel on 15 Oct 2019, 08:44
We have a logo now! This is getting serious.

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I really love your logo!
I hope this don't bother you but I wanted to "fix" some things (pixel clusters or perspective mistakes)
So here is:
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I hope you like it
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 15 Oct 2019, 09:11

I'm really curious about the italian part! Who helped you in that?

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I don't understand, help me with what?  :confused: The chapter simply takes place in a room in a fictional hotel in Rome sometime in the 1920s and there are a couple of words in Italian thrown in for colour, but the dialogue is in English :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 15 Oct 2019, 09:12
We have a logo now! This is getting serious.



I really love your logo!
I hope this don't bother you but I wanted to "fix" some things (pixel clusters or perspective mistakes)
So here is:
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I hope you like it

Thanks, glad you like it  :) I'll show your suggestions to the artist and he'll let me know what he thinks!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: shaun9991 on 15 Oct 2019, 09:56
This looks extremely interesting and absolutely beautiful!! Great work Laura & team :) Very intrigued.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 15 Oct 2019, 10:18
This looks extremely interesting and absolutely beautiful!! Great work Laura & team :) Very intrigued.

Thanks, Shaun! Much appreciated ;-D
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: TheFrighter on 15 Oct 2019, 11:38

I don't understand, help me with what?  :confused: The chapter simply takes place in a room in a fictional hotel in Rome sometime in the 1920s and there are a couple of words in Italian thrown in for colour, but the dialogue is in English :)
Ah, I thought you had documented about old Italia or asking to somebody!

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Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Haggis on 18 Oct 2019, 01:11
Now this looks a little bit special, add to watch list (in my head).  :-D
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Cookie_Wood on 18 Oct 2019, 17:37
The atmosphere is already really nice ! I love it !
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 28 Oct 2019, 14:50
(https://img.itch.zone/aW1hZ2UvNjY5OTg4LzM3NDE5MjAuZ2lm/original/rw4ezt.gif)

First sneak peek from Act II, The Slow Vanishing of Lady Winterbourne.

Sorry that this one isn't scalable like the others! An actual in-game screenshot would of course be cropped with a 320x200 ratio, so we thought this time we'd show how things look from the artist's perspective before things go into the engine :)

This one will also go on twitter in a couple of days. Feel free to follow us there (https://twitter.com/deadidlegames) if I haven't yet pestered you about it!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: eri0o on 28 Oct 2019, 16:09
Needs thunders! I love the darkness in this image :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 28 Oct 2019, 18:05
Needs thunders! I love the darkness in this image :)

(https://i.imgflip.com/3el6lx.jpg)

:-D
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: rongel on 29 Oct 2019, 15:03
First sneak peek from Act II, The Slow Vanishing of Lady Winterbourne.

That is simply a gorgeous picture!

The graphical style is perfect, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 29 Oct 2019, 15:44
First sneak peek from Act II, The Slow Vanishing of Lady Winterbourne.

That is simply a gorgeous picture!

The graphical style is perfect, keep up the good work.

Thank you! ;-D
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Olleh19 on 30 Oct 2019, 23:55
Looks very promising Laura! I would have guessed it was "pixelshuh" who did the art if i didn't know, similar style :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Matti on 31 Oct 2019, 11:42
This looks very nice! Good luck with the development.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Flugeldufel on 01 Nov 2019, 15:42
Very nice atmosphere, great style!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 02 Nov 2019, 14:46
Added this screenshot to the main post. No more sneak peeks until Act III!

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Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 13 Nov 2019, 07:59
Here's a playlist I made with some of my favourite late 20s/30s romantic ballads (and some that I only discovered while doing research for the game) to get us in the right mood for working on Act I: The Silent Room. Playlist for Act II coming soon!

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2CnhhU51vQCf3sM1akr4iw?si=Qy6w2aZGRAWjxYYygYI8Jw

(https://s.put.re/SYhMZ2hX.JPG)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: lorenzo on 13 Nov 2019, 13:43
I was sure I had left a comment on this thread, but apparently I didn't.

I love the idea of an anthology of adventure games. In fact, I've wanted to do something similar for a long time, but never did. I have enough trouble finishing a single game, let alone more than one. (roll)

I love the screenshots, great use of colours. I especially like that rainy one, is so gloomy and atmospheric!

Regarding the first story. Italy in the 1920s was far from the roaring 20s -- in fact, that decade is a mess, with the March on Rome, the rise of Fascism and so on. But the story you're telling seems more like a personal one, so that shouldn't be a problem. :)

Best of luck with development!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 13 Nov 2019, 15:21
I was sure I had left a comment on this thread, but apparently I didn't.

I love the idea of an anthology of adventure games. In fact, I've wanted to do something similar for a long time, but never did. I have enough trouble finishing a single game, let alone more than one. (roll)

It's been a weird development process, to be honest! At first it was like, let's just make 3 or 4 super short mini interactive stories, but the ideas just kept piling on, and next thing you know, the initial idea to "just make a game in like, three months" turned into "ok, so... 1 year? maybe?" (laugh)

I love the screenshots, great use of colours. I especially like that rainy one, is so gloomy and atmospheric!

Thank you, so lovely to hear!

Regarding the first story. Italy in the 1920s was far from the roaring 20s -- in fact, that decade is a mess, with the March on Rome, the rise of Fascism and so on. But the story you're telling seems more like a personal one, so that shouldn't be a problem. :)

Indeed! The setting is merely meant to convey a mood, rather than a historical snapshot, it it makes sense. There are a couple of historical references for general context, including the music, but that's about it; everything else is on the more intimate/personal side, as you say :)

Best of luck with development!

Thank you!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: lorenzo on 13 Nov 2019, 19:32
It's been a weird development process, to be honest! At first it was like, let's just make 3 or 4 super short mini interactive stories, but the ideas just kept piling on, and next thing you know, the initial idea to "just make a game in like, three months" turned into "ok, so... 1 year? maybe?" (laugh)
Haha, isn't that how it always happens? (laugh) These things never go according to plan.

The setting is merely meant to convey a mood, rather than a historical snapshot, it it makes sense.
Makes perfect sense to me! A bit like when Victorian London gets chosen more for the foggy, mysterious atmosphere than for historical reasons. ;)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 18 Nov 2019, 09:34
The playlist for Act II is here for your enjoyment:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/517bp54ku7SSrpad9aeJhd

(https://s.put.re/JXU1WDbK.JPG)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: selmiak on 23 Nov 2019, 23:35
these screenshots are gorgeous! :-D I'll be watching out for this game! Horror shorts are always a good thing to play :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 24 Nov 2019, 09:32
these screenshots are gorgeous! :-D I'll be watching out for this game! Horror shorts are always a good thing to play :)

Thanks! However, a lot of people seem to be under the impression that this is a horror game, so I'm feeling compelled to clarify that it's not. Sure it's dark, and there are horror elements to it, especially in the third act, but I would never call it a horror game as a whole. Just so we're all on the same page :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 14 Jan 2020, 19:41
It's been a loooong time without any updates, but between us not wanting to share too much because SPOILERS and the fact that Act II has grown way beyond our predictions and we still aren't even close to finishing it, there just isn't that much stuff to show off.

However!

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(actual game resolution is 320x200, but I made the capture at 640x400. Also, the quality of the gif obviously doesn't represent actual in-game quality ;) )
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Darth Mandarb on 14 Jan 2020, 20:31
Looks great!

Can you please update the first post to make sure the screenshots are showing? I couldn't see them (they are in the code, but aren't rendering).

Thanks!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Cassiebsg on 14 Jan 2020, 21:03
Wow, that looks awesome!  8-0
Great work!

@Darth Mandrab
Funny, they load fine for me. You sure it's not your ISP hiccuping?
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 14 Jan 2020, 21:05
Looks great!

Can you please update the first post to make sure the screenshots are showing? I couldn't see them (they are in the code, but aren't rendering).

Thanks!

You mean the ones from s.put.re? They're showing for me without any issues ???
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 14 Jan 2020, 21:08
Wow, that looks awesome!  8-0
Great work!

Thanks! ;-D

@Darth Mandrab
Funny, they load fine for me. You sure it's not your ISP hiccuping?

Could be... I had an issue for a while in which images from certain sites like Discord wouldn't load on my work laptop and it had something to do with our firewall or DNS server or who knows... It got solved eventually.

Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: milkanannan on 15 Jan 2020, 06:15
Anticipation level 3000 for this game! Hurry it up you two! (laugh)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: ManicMatt on 15 Jan 2020, 10:53
Great crouching animation!

Sorry if this was already covered in the thread, but did you draw this scene with more colour and turn down the saturation or work with these colours from the start?
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 15 Jan 2020, 11:06
Great crouching animation!

Sorry if this was already covered in the thread, but did you draw this scene with more colour and turn down the saturation or work with these colours from the start?

I'm not the artist! I don't know how Thomas creates his magic and I don't ask too many questions :-D
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: ManicMatt on 15 Jan 2020, 11:12
I heard he uses Pixel Logic MagicianBand 2.3 on his MagicBook Pro.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Creamy on 17 Jan 2020, 19:58
So many details with so few pixels  :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 27 Feb 2020, 21:19
I posted this on twitter, but I think it would also make a nice update for the thread :)

A lot has changed since Thomas came up with the initial roster of characters for the game! So far, neither Dr. Samuels (first on the left) nor Leilah (last on the right) have changed much, yet the others...

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Lady Winterbourne's outfit evolved from a princess-like gown to something more fitting for a Parisian bohemian heiress with a taste for laudanum and Satie. She's my favourite character, and Thomas was really acommodating of all my requests to make her look just like I pictured her:

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As for the third character from the left, he was soon replaced with a series of designs inspired by The Talented Mr. Ripley and re-imagined for the late 1920s. Charlie became Carlo, and Patrick was chosen over Fabrizio to be his lover/secret American affair. Sorry, Fabrizio; we hardly knew ye:

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The portrait of Dr. Jordan Samuels was very much inspired by Dr. Algernon Edwards, the character played by Andre Holland on The Knick. We won't be using Sierra-style portraits in the end, however, since we find Lucasarts-style dialogue looks better integrated and cleaner.

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And that's all I have for now! It's a hard job for only two people, but we're making great progress. Hopefully there'll be new material soon :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Cassiebsg on 27 Feb 2020, 21:52
Great update! :)

Shame you dropped the portraits, That's one gorgeous one!  (nod)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 28 Feb 2020, 05:56
Great update! :)

Shame you dropped the portraits, That's one gorgeous one!  (nod)

Thank you! :) Yeah, that was our first big "kill your darlings" moment, we loved how they looked but once I switched to over-head dialogue and saw just how much better it fit with our backgrounds, aesthetic, etc, the decision was clear :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Athanor on 28 Feb 2020, 07:51
These screenshots ooze atmosphere! The way you work with light and shadow looks absolutely stunning, I seriously don't know anything of similar quality. Beautiful!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 28 Feb 2020, 07:57
These screenshots ooze atmosphere! The way you work with light and shadow looks absolutely stunning, I seriously don't know anything of similar quality. Beautiful!

That's flattering, thank you so much!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Kastchey on 28 Feb 2020, 13:15
I concur with the others, this looks so beautiful. And I think you made a good decision with the portraits, Lucasarts style speech suits the isometric view and the subtle play of lights and shadows much better.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 28 Feb 2020, 13:23
I concur with the others, this looks so beautiful. And I think you made a good decision with the portraits, Lucasarts style speech suits the isometric view and the subtle play of lights and shadows much better.

It's definitely more immersive; sometimes having a huge face pop up every time a character says or thinks something can feel a bit jarring, depending on the kind of game/atmosphere you're going for :-D Thanks for your kind words!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 27 Mar 2020, 18:48
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Grief weighs heavy on the soul. But laudanum helps, for a while. Makes the pain go away, for a while. And brings sleepless dreams, sometimes...


(real game resolution is 320x200; gif was captured at 640x400)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Cassiebsg on 27 Mar 2020, 19:02
How can you guys put so much beautiful detail into so few pixels is a mystery to me.
Keep up the good work.  (nod)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: ukz530 on 27 Mar 2020, 20:00
Cool! Animation or atmosphere is so cool. I'm looking forward to the next thread.  (laugh)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 27 Mar 2020, 21:33
How can you guys put so much beautiful detail into so few pixels is a mystery to me.

And you should see the stuff that we don't want to show because we're saving the best for the game! :-D There are some animations there that when he sent me the spritesheets I was like how in HELL did you do that... I'm the biggest fan of his work myself tbh, hahah. Hope my writing will be half as good ;-D

Keep up the good work.  (nod)

Cool! Animation or atmosphere is so cool. I'm looking forward to the next thread.  (laugh)

Thanks for the kind words!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Creamy on 28 Mar 2020, 00:20
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But laudanum helps, for a while. Makes the pain go away, for a while. And brings sleepless dreams, sometimes...
I get some House of Mirth vibes even if Lady Winterbourne doesn't seem to face the same problems as Lily Bart.

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We won't be using Sierra-style portraits in the end, however, since we find Lucasarts-style dialogue looks better integrated and cleaner.

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Neat portrait. I agree that you probably don't need them with your skilled writing and such animations.

Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Ali on 28 Mar 2020, 00:34
This looks fantastic.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 28 Mar 2020, 08:22
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But laudanum helps, for a while. Makes the pain go away, for a while. And brings sleepless dreams, sometimes...
I get some House of Mirth vibes even if Lady Winterbourne doesn't seem to face the same problems as Lily Bart.

I've never read it, but going by the summary, I see what you mean ;)

Neat portrait. I agree that you probably don't need them with your skilled writing and such animations.

This looks fantastic.

Thank you! *curtsies*
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: LimpingFish on 31 Mar 2020, 02:38
This looks very nice! Seriously! Looking forward to playing the finished game!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: selmiak on 01 Apr 2020, 01:56
the background is still very beautiful but that animation is so smooooooth I can hear her clothes rustle already :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: KyriakosCH on 01 Apr 2020, 19:25
This looks awesome! :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 01 Apr 2020, 19:35
Thank you all so much! ;-D
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: KyriakosCH on 03 Apr 2020, 09:24
Inland Empire :)

I usually dislike Lynch, but I liked Inland Empire.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Crimson Wizard on 03 Apr 2020, 21:42
I usually dislike Lynch, but I liked Inland Empire.

By coincidence, I just watched Inland Empire recently, and it made my head hurt a little. And these Lynchian jump scares, lol...

--nightmare warning--
Spoiler: ShowHide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkB2cqOTKDc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkB2cqOTKDc)


I had some guess about whole story, but maybe it was my personal imagining and not what David Lynch actually meant.

I think "Mullholland Drive" is my favourite film, out of his "surreal" films. It's also the one which is easiest to understand (you only have to watch it twice and things begin to make almost perfect sense :) )
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: KyriakosCH on 04 Apr 2020, 04:21
I usually dislike Lynch, but I liked Inland Empire.

By coincidence, I just watched Inland Empire recently, and it made my head hurt a little. And these Lynchian jump scares, lol...

--nightmare warning--
Spoiler: ShowHide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkB2cqOTKDc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkB2cqOTKDc)


I had some guess about whole story, but maybe it was my personal imagining and not what David Lynch actually meant.

I think "Mullholland Drive" is my favourite film, out of his "surreal" films. It's also the one which is easiest to understand (you only have to watch it twice and things begin to make almost perfect sense :) )


^_^

A bit off-topic, so inside the spoiler (my thoughts about the Inland Empire plot)

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 I assumed that the trauma-ridden east european girl was watching some sitcom/other on tv and hypnotized herself into thinking she was the heroine of that show (played in the film by Laura Dern). I did like the metaphor "Inland Empire"; very suggestive. I mean, if you are in some massive unknown empire that is landlocked, you are unlikely to ever return  :=
That said, I suppose that Lynch usually doesn't have a very specific account of everything/how all ties up, and rarely (eg MH drive) is one readily available.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 04 Apr 2020, 08:38
I absolutely hated Inland Empire the first time I watched it. I left the cinema ranting and raving about how David Lynch had lost it and how this was just a brain fart and he'd gone off the deep end and he wasn't even trying anymore. I've now watched it 5 times and it's one of my favourite movies. Go figure.

(I still hate
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Twin Peaks: The Return, though. What a pile of crap... Make a movie with the first episode and the two final ones and throw everything else in the trash.)


I like Mulholland Drive, but sometimes it's too obvious that it was meant to be a pilot episode for a TV series, and that some characters were meant to have wider arcs (Mr. Roque, the two guys at Winkie's) so they were left without much purpose in the movie. In many ways I prefer Lost Highway because it has a near-perfect balance between comprehensibility (not that it really matters, but you can make sense of it) and plain off-the-wall Lynch weirdness.

A bit off-topic, so inside the spoiler (my thoughts about the Inland Empire plot)
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 I assumed that the trauma-ridden east european girl was watching some sitcom/other on tv and hypnotized herself into thinking she was the heroine of that show (played in the film by Laura Dern). I did like the metaphor "Inland Empire"; very suggestive. I mean, if you are in some massive unknown empire that is landlocked, you are unlikely to ever return  :=
That said, I suppose that Lynch usually doesn't have a very specific account of everything/how all ties up, and rarely (eg MH drive) is one readily available.


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That makes a lot of sense, especially when you know that Inland Empire is a relatively poor area in Los Angeles where unemployment and crime are much higher than the average, and given Lynch's penchant for showing the hidden dark aspects underneath everyday life (Blue Velvet, Twin Peaks) or Hollywood glamour (Mulholland Drive), I wouldn't be surprised if he chose this title with the same idea in mind: in the middle of glamorous, star-studded L.A. you have this neighborhood where the people that didn't make it end up.

Also, Lynch himself announced the movie as being about "a woman in trouble". Most people take this woman to be Laura Dern's character(s), but I agree that it's more likely the Polish woman in the hotel room. I do believe, however, that The Phantom is real and not a figment of her imagination or some kind of metaphor.


Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: KyriakosCH on 04 Apr 2020, 09:35
^ I like the Busey scene in LH  8-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0SvEUa_F5M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0SvEUa_F5M)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Darth Mandarb on 05 Apr 2020, 14:01
Okay okay let's get back on point here :)
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Post by: Laura Hunt on 05 Apr 2020, 18:25
Alright, here's a tiny little something else. With sound this time!

(Sorry if the volume is a bit low, it's literally my first time using OBS Studio. Except for that other first time some two years ago when I thought maybe I wanted to do some streaming on Twitch. So it's not literally my first time. ANYWAY.)



Parigi, o cara noi lasceremo
La vita uniti trascorreremo
De' corsi affanni compenso avrai
La tua salute rifiorirà
Sospiro e luce tu mi sarai
Tutto il futuro ne arriderà

Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: lorenzo on 05 Apr 2020, 18:37
La Traviata?
A small typo: it should be "La tua salute rifiorirà", not "rifiorià". :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 05 Apr 2020, 18:52
La Traviata?

La Traviata indeed! ;-D

A small typo: it should be "La tua salute rifiorirà", not "rifiorià". :)

Hah, that's what I get for trusting google. Fixed, thanks!
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Post by: KyriakosCH on 06 Apr 2020, 13:05
Dreamy :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: javixblack on 12 Apr 2020, 02:34
Woooooow, it look beautiful! Just a silly and obvious question... it will be a commercial game?
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Post by: Laura Hunt on 12 Apr 2020, 05:44
Woooooow, it look beautiful! Just a silly and obvious question... it will be a commercial game?

Nope! It will be 100% free.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 30 May 2020, 13:33
We have a fully operational Pause menu now, with mouseover sounds and everything. Exciting times!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZQ8ywbXkAM0RwQ?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Slasher on 30 May 2020, 13:38
When do you expect a release?

The game looks brilliant and I want to play it now  (laugh)

Great work...
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 30 May 2020, 13:45
When do you expect a release?

The game looks brilliant and I want to play it now  (laugh)

Great work...

Thanks! We're aiming for an October-November release, but that's what we said last year, so who knows :D
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Post by: Yanek_Crispbread on 30 May 2020, 16:02
This looks absolutely fantastic. Beautiful art.
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Post by: WHAM on 30 May 2020, 23:06
Hadn't checked in on the GiP board in a while and the first thing I see is this gem in the making!
A rare and quite unusual choice of perspective gives the art a unique look, and I really like the atmosphere on display here. Character design and animation is a prime example of how much can be done with very little in the way of pixel count.

Definitely keeping an eye out for this for when it comes out, and I wish all the best in the project!
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Post by: Grim on 09 Jun 2020, 00:14
What a lovely looking game ;)
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Post by: Laura Hunt on 09 Jun 2020, 16:11
What a lovely looking game ;)

Oh thank you! :) The Cat Lady is one of my all-time favourite games, and one of the first that showed me it was possible to tackle serious themes such as depression or suicide in video games, which in turn motivated me to start fiddling with AGS. So thanks for the compliment and the motivation!
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Post by: FireFlower on 20 Jun 2020, 16:15
I like the art style of this game.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 25 Jun 2020, 18:17
We have a proper main menu at last!

(https://i.imgur.com/o0Y42uH.gif)

The parallax effect (using Ali's Smooth Scrolling & Parallax module (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=33142.0)) is a bit jerky because of the reduced gif framerate, but it should give an idea of how it'll look in-game :)
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Post by: Crimson Wizard on 25 Jun 2020, 18:28
I see you are definite to make your game as cinematic as possible :)
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Post by: Kastchey on 25 Jun 2020, 18:32
This looks simply stunning. Your tiny 2 man team never ceases to amaze!
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Post by: Laura Hunt on 25 Jun 2020, 18:42
I see you are definite to make your game as cinematic as possible :)

At this point, I'm sure that making a movie would have been easier :-D

This looks simply stunning. Your tiny 2 man team never ceases to amaze!

Ahem, 2 person team, if you don't mind :P

(Thank you! <3)
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Post by: Cassiebsg on 26 Jun 2020, 20:07
Awesome! Love the menu!  :-D
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Post by: Laura Hunt on 26 Jun 2020, 20:34
Awesome! Love the menu!  :-D

Thanks! Looks nicer than those ugly grey buttons you guys had to deal with when testing it, that's for sure! :-D
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Kastchey on 27 Jun 2020, 11:16
This looks simply stunning. Your tiny 2 man team never ceases to amaze!

Ahem, 2 person team, if you don't mind :P

(Thank you! <3)
I obviously meant it as a general term but yes, now that I think of it, you're absolutely right. That is a stupidly sexist wording...
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: milkanannan on 27 Jun 2020, 11:58
Woooooow, it look beautiful! Just a silly and obvious question... it will be a commercial game?

Nope! It will be 100% free.

Great news for cheapskates like me := but just out of curiosity ~ why go this route? The project looks professional and your team has logged so much time, why not explore the e-commerce side of platforms like Steam and make a few bucks off of it? Might bridge you into a rewarding new career.
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Post by: Hobo on 27 Jun 2020, 12:34
That main menu looks very smooth and impressive even in the .gif format. I'm really loving the overall polish and attention to detail that oozes from everything you've posted in this thread. It's also interesting to finally see an outside shot, I think I've only seen indoors scenes so far.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 27 Jun 2020, 12:37
Nope! It will be 100% free.

Great news for cheapskates like me := but just out of curiosity ~ why go this route? The project looks professional and your team has logged so much time, why not explore the e-commerce side of platforms like Steam and make a few bucks off of it? Might bridge you into a rewarding new career.

- Because monetizing your hobbies is the best way to guarantee that you'll end up hating them. I've always drawn a line between what I do to pay the bills, and what I do because I love it. The day I have to force myself to spend 12 hours coding in order to meet a deadline is the day my interest in game development will die.

- Because money is not the only reward for something into which you've put effort, passion and time. Getting paid for a gig was always nice because it meant free pizza and weed, but it never compared to people walking up to me and saying that my music had touched and inspired them in some way.

- Because I don't need the money (although that's not quite the case anymore now that I'm unemployed, but whatever) but many other indie devs do. This way, our game won't take away from other studios' potential earnings, as people won't have to choose whether to spend their money on IOAWN4T or something else. They can have both!

- Because it gives me the chance to be like "oh, you didn't like it? Alright, here's your money ba... OH WAIT LOL". I'm just mean like that. (j/k)

Note that this is only *my* position and that Thomas actually believed we should release it on a pay-what-you-want basis (which is not really possible anyway because of the NC-CC licensed music I've used), so if/when we do another game together it probably won't be free despite my reservations. But fair is fair, and since we've gone my way on this occasion, I'm willing to do it his way next.

Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Ben X on 27 Jun 2020, 21:17
This whole game looks very impressive, and that train shot is especially dope! How did you make that, it feels like maybe a 3D scene (or at least one with some 3D elements) that has then been 2Dified?
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Post by: Laura Hunt on 28 Jun 2020, 05:37
Nope! It's all drawn by hand, and animated frame by frame :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Ben X on 28 Jun 2020, 08:35
Wow, impressive!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 29 Jun 2020, 09:44


The music for the main menu is pretty much done, so I get to show some of my own work for a change :) Next step is finding an actual human violinist to play the violin parts!
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Post by: arj0n on 29 Jun 2020, 16:22
Impressive intro scene, love the four masks (assuming these are masks)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 29 Jun 2020, 18:33
Impressive intro scene, love the four masks (assuming these are masks)

They are :) Thanks!
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Click'd on 29 Jun 2020, 18:46
Unless Kastchey misspelled his own name on the forums, there's a typo in the credits. But who knows, could be intentional.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Kastchey on 29 Jun 2020, 20:16
If it was intentional, it wouldn't have been the first time  (roll)
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Post by: Matti on 29 Jun 2020, 20:28
Loving every update. I'm really looking forward to the game!

You're obviously putting a lot of effort and attention to detail into this and I think it will pay off well  :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 29 Jun 2020, 20:45
If it was intentional, it wouldn't have been the first time  (roll)

Of course it wasn't intentional! I was using an, erm, archaic transcription from Cyrillic and got them mixed up, rookie mistake, ahem. (fixed)

Loving every update. I'm really looking forward to the game!

You're obviously putting a lot of effort and attention to detail into this and I think it will pay off well  :)

Thank you and I hope so! I'm having the WORST case of writer's block right now and everything I come up with feels like trash, so I appreciate the encouragement :)

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Post by: Kastchey on 29 Jun 2020, 20:58
If it wasn't intentional it wouldn't have been the first time, either :>
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Post by: Creamy on 29 Jun 2020, 22:58
For a while, I also misread your name for:
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Gorgeous title screen. Because the train goes so fast, I was expecting a more energetic song. Not that I dislike it  :)
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Post by: heltenjon on 29 Jun 2020, 23:48
A sad song accompanying an unstoppable train hurling through a bleak winter landscape. What a great and sadly beautiful way to make a contract with the player before the game has even started!  (nod)
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Post by: Laura Hunt on 30 Jun 2020, 04:30
If it wasn't intentional it wouldn't have been the first time, either :>

This I get, it's easy to make a typo. But... why would someone misspell your nickname on purpose? Just to be annoying?

Gorgeous title screen. Because the train goes so fast, I was expecting a more energetic song. Not that I dislike it  :)

It was a tough decision! I tried a lot of different stuff, some more energetic, some more sinister, but ultimately I wanted the music to contrast with the visuals, rather than reinforce them. I think it makes for a more interesting mood :)

A sad song accompanying an unstoppable train hurling through a bleak winter landscape. What a great and sadly beautiful way to make a contract with the player before the game has even started!  (nod)

(https://media.tenor.com/images/44fe6f78b7c2194adb9264a707584766/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Click'd on 30 Jun 2020, 06:27
Quite fitting for the train imagery, I seem to have derailed the thread. Sorry.
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Kastchey on 30 Jun 2020, 22:30
If it wasn't intentional it wouldn't have been the first time, either :>
This I get, it's easy to make a typo. But... why would someone misspell your nickname on purpose? Just to be annoying?
*Looks in Mandle's general direction*  (roll)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: ukz530 on 01 Jul 2020, 09:53
The title screen and music are so cool!

 I like this style. awesome!  :)
Title: Re: If On A Winter's Night, Four Travelers
Post by: Laura Hunt on 01 Jul 2020, 11:27
Thanks a lot! :)