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Title: 3D printing
Post by: Blondbraid on 14 Dec 2019, 14:39
I've been playing around with 3D printing lately, and of course the first thing I've decided to make into a printable model was Olga and Ivan.  :-D
(https://cdn.thingiverse.com/assets/2c/04/dd/fe/10/featured_preview_sniperandspotter2.jpg)
I've uploaded the models here (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4047815) for anyone who want to print their own, and I'm curious if anyone else here has tried 3D printing and wanted to share any models or ideas?
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Retro Wolf on 14 Dec 2019, 15:56
That's so cool, I feel like if I had a 3D printer, I'd use it too much haha! Are they very strong?
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Cassiebsg on 14 Dec 2019, 15:57
They look awesome! Did you 3D modeled them yourself?

The only thing I ever 3D printer was this Cylon Centurion half helmet, I did during a Solid Works course I attended.   3D printing wasn't in the program, but I decided to ask if I could and they let me.  :-D I'm missing a decent chrome paint to finish it's coloring.

(http://ags.pics/cPq1.jpg)
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Jojo_the_monkey on 14 Dec 2019, 17:34
Well done Blondbraid, they look great!! Now you must do a stop motion adventure!!  :P
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Jack on 14 Dec 2019, 21:09
Olga and Ivan.  :-D

Breddy gud. Did you have to do much sanding?

I'm not one for figurines but it might be cool to have one of my games' characters, or a ship.
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Cassiebsg on 14 Dec 2019, 21:15
I did sanded mine down.
If you look closely you can see the x shaped material finish on the back plate, near the round part of the helmet (leftt side of the pic).
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Blondbraid on 15 Dec 2019, 22:45
To answer the questions, yes, I did model the 3D models myself in Maya, and you are free to download and print your own if you'd like.

I didn't do any sanding on them (they're pretty small, only 10 cm high) since I was afraid I'd just file off the details them, plus the 3D printer I'm using
(Creality 10s) is pretty good at fine details, though the downside is that even these small things take hours to print with those settings.

I'm not one for figurines but it might be cool to have one of my games' characters, or a ship.
If you have access to a 3D printer, I'd say go for it. For any AGSer who already make their graphics using 2D images of 3D characters,
you can just convert the 3D files to an OBJ or STL file, and as long as there aren't any gaps or holes in their geometry, they're ready to be printed!
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Mandle on 15 Dec 2019, 23:45
Awesome stuff!
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Tampere on 16 Dec 2019, 15:59
Amazing job Blondebraid, the look so full of life! Perfect colouring too!
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: KyriakosCH on 22 Dec 2019, 14:28
Nice models!!!

By the way, does anyone know of any serious site where one can sell their 3d models for printing? Interested in building models.
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Blondbraid on 22 Apr 2020, 22:20
I've spent a lot of time trying to perfect a model for a jointed doll to add clothes and acessories to once it's printed, I just thought I'd share this;
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/4638b4bf-a698-40cb-aae1-7f18d42a352b/ddueqtv-c08fb376-5926-40e1-a13d-f02fc072c0fb.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzQ2MzhiNGJmLWE2OTgtNDBjYi1hYWUxLTdmMThkNDJhMzUyYlwvZGR1ZXF0di1jMDhmYjM3Ni01OTI2LTQwZTEtYTEzZC1mMDJmYzA3MmMwZmIuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.BLSMax2sUaP7VGNthVxngm9ibDCPHlJl25l1gW_yxmE)
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Cassiebsg on 23 Apr 2020, 22:53
That looks great. :)
Though I've never been much into dolls, so I actually prefer Olga and Ivan.  (laugh)
Btw, how much do they weigh? Or better asked: how much 3d-filaments in grams di you use to produce those figures? Just wondering what they would cost to print at the Library...  ;)
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Blondbraid on 23 Apr 2020, 23:19
That looks great. :)
Though I've never been much into dolls, so I actually prefer Olga and Ivan.  (laugh)
Btw, how much do they weigh? Or better asked: how much 3d-filaments in grams di you use to produce those figures? Just wondering what they would cost to print at the Library...  ;)

I'm so glad you like them!  :-D
Well, the weight depends on what size you want to print them in. With the dolls with joints, downsizing them runs the risk of the joints fusing together in printing, but with the Olga and Ivan figurines you can do pretty much any size without too much trouble (I accidentally made the first figure I printed 20 milimeters high because I misread the numbers, yet it still worked!), but with a 10% infill a 120 milimeter high figurine is only about 12 grams without supports, and 30 grams with auto-generated supports, so they shouldn't weigh too much.

Personally, I'd recommend downloading Cura (https://ultimaker.com/software/ultimaker-cura) and use that program to open the 3D files in it to calculate how much a figure in the size you want would weigh.
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Cassiebsg on 24 Apr 2020, 16:32
Cool, thanks for the info. I'll check that.
Of course, before I can do any printing, the Library needs to open for business.  :)
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Blondbraid on 24 Apr 2020, 17:33
Cool, thanks for the info. I'll check that.
Of course, before I can do any printing, the Library needs to open for business.  :)
True. But they can't stay closed for too long considering the people without computers who need public libraries for their online errands.
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Fitz on 03 May 2020, 20:56
These are magnificent, Blondbraid! Especially that last one. How do the joints work? Did you model them after solutions used in commercial figurines or did you make some creative use of the 3D printing capabilities, like printing an object inside an object rather than snapping them together once finished.

I'm only starting my fun with 3D prints and have yet to try to color them or give them movable body parts. Here's my first - done with the help of my brother-in-law (he's the printer whiz, I'm the designer):

(https://scontent.fwaw5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/82788826_2823093161061949_1430637525940043776_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=eP2_y-VIwAMAX9JH1i2&_nc_ht=scontent.fwaw5-1.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=cb0556f126c28fbfa433fef36dce7bad&oe=5ED4866A)
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Cassiebsg on 03 May 2020, 21:49
 (nod)
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: arj0n on 03 May 2020, 22:35
Here's my first - done with the help of my brother-in-law (he's the printer whiz, I'm the designer):

Nice!
Oh man, you should do a print of a model of Gray! ;)
(I guess that Gray-doll idea never saw the daylight?)
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Blondbraid on 03 May 2020, 23:02
These are magnificent, Blondbraid! Especially that last one. How do the joints work? Did you model them after solutions used in commercial figurines or did you make some creative use of the 3D printing capabilities, like printing an object inside an object rather than snapping them together once finished.
Thanks!
If you're curious, I spent a lot of time trying to design a doll that could have both movable joints and be printed in one piece. I did take some inspiration from other people's models with simple printable joints, and then there was a long process of trial and error, where I started with some very simple joints and gradually tested more advanced designs, but I also had to use a lot of supports to make it work. You can download and take a look at the model here if you want to learn how it works: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4237475

But your model isn't bad either, awesome work on the face details!  8-0
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Fitz on 04 May 2020, 10:59
Arjon, I'm surprised you even remember that! Nope, actually alllll of my plans for Gray went absolutely nowhere. Same with Magenta, too, and Monty. Not a day goes by without me thinking about either, with so many ideas - but I'm physically burnt out. If anything, I might start making figurines for others, more marketable IPs of AGS fame? Here's a lazy quickie 3D sculpt I did of Zniw: 



Blondbraid, I'll definitely check these - though I might also investigate the classic approach of assemblable models. Because one of these days I might actually go there, maybe? I work at an injection molding company, owned by my father - and so far we've only been making boring practical stuff. I'm 40 next month, so I want to do something new and bold and wild!  (laugh)
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Blondbraid on 04 May 2020, 16:15
Wow, for a lazy quickie sculpt, that looks great, just like the original but in 3D! I definitively hope you'll be able to work more on cool Adventure game character models in the future!
Blondbraid, I'll definitely check these - though I might also investigate the classic approach of assemblable models. Because one of these days I might actually go there, maybe? I work at an injection molding company, owned by my father - and so far we've only been making boring practical stuff. I'm 40 next month, so I want to do something new and bold and wild!  (laugh)
I hope they'll be of some inspiration!
And the injection molding sounds interesting, I've seen people on YouTube use 3D-printed items to create molds and cast them in other materials, it it something you've tried?
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Fitz on 04 May 2020, 18:46
Oh, just to make it clear: it wasn't a five-minute thing, it was simply something I did in one sitting, in the evening, and chose not to worry about little details - while fully aware it's far from perfect. It doesn't have that dynamism and charm of the original cartoony Zniw. These short evening sculpts are sort of a rapid prototyping - which is very different from more ambitious attempts, which tend to take waaaay longer, require much more research, trial and error, and revisions - like this:


(which I'm still not perfectly happy with)

As far as casting goes, that's not what we do, actually. I'm talking automated, rapid machine mass-production of identical plastic items by injecting molten plastic into steel molds. It's a regular factory - if small - rather than an artistic enterprise. Coincidentally, casting was what my fiance (the real-life Magenta) and my sister did in college, they both majored in sculpture.
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Blondbraid on 06 May 2020, 18:01
Wow, that's impressive!
As far as casting goes, that's not what we do, actually. I'm talking automated, rapid machine mass-production of identical plastic items by injecting molten plastic into steel molds. It's a regular factory - if small - rather than an artistic enterprise. Coincidentally, casting was what my fiance (the real-life Magenta) and my sister did in college, they both majored in sculpture.
Well, I've also heard about businesses using 3D printing to create an original model and then using it to make molds to mass-produce copies of things, but I guess you don't do that?
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Fitz on 06 May 2020, 22:19
Would be pretty hard to make steel molds that way ;) Instead, we feed the 3D data to a CNC milling machine, which then cuts the mold out of blocks of steel.
Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Blondbraid on 06 May 2020, 23:29
Would be pretty hard to make steel molds that way ;) Instead, we feed the 3D data to a CNC milling machine, which then cuts the mold out of blocks of steel.
Aha, I didn't realize you were using steel molds, I was thinking more along the lines of materials like plaster and silicone!  :P

Still, three's much cool potential in 3D printing, and I think your models you've showcased in your last comments would look great printed out,
and as for various imperfections, you can hide a lot with a glue gun and acrylic paint!  ;)