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Title: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: FormosaFalanster on 01 Apr 2021, 06:20
Is it me or the latest games in the AGS database are not actually made with AGS? Should they be in there?
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: Gilbert on 01 Apr 2021, 06:26
Can you give some examples of these possible offenders?
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: Laura Hunt on 01 Apr 2021, 07:38
Can you give some examples of these possible offenders?

This one is made with Game Maker Studio, as confirmed by the dev on the game's itch.io page: https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/2527-ashina-the-red-witch/ I actually left a comment there but I don't know if any admins read them. Maybe a "report" function would be in order?

This one doesn't look like it's made with AGS either, but in this case there's no engine listed in the game's itch.io page: https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/2526-ash-pines/

Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: arj0n on 01 Apr 2021, 08:36
This one doesn't look like it's made with AGS either, but in this case there's no engine listed in the game's itch.io page: https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/2526-ash-pines/
But it is an actual AGS game (the zip contains the typical AGS files 'acsetup.cfg' & 'winsetup.exe')  :)
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: Laura Hunt on 01 Apr 2021, 08:50
This one doesn't look like it's made with AGS either, but in this case there's no engine listed in the game's itch.io page: https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/game/2526-ash-pines/
But it is an actual AGS game (the zip contains the typical AGS files 'acsetup.cfg' & 'winsetup.exe')  :)

Oh cool, it didn't cross my mind to check that. Good tip to have in mind!
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: Gilbert on 01 Apr 2021, 08:53
Stranga had made a game (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=54761.0) used AGS, but he had just added four new games (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/search/creator:Stranga/1/name/asc/) on 24th March.
For Ashina I didn't see what engine was used in the itch.io page but I take your word for it but arjon just confirmed it's made with AGS.
For My Sister it's stated in the game's itch.io page that it was indeed made with AGS.
For the remaining two, I don't know.

Turned out I can disable individual games (probably all moderators can do this too) and I have disabled Ashina (which turned out to be a mistake now). I'll ask to restore it.
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: arj0n on 01 Apr 2021, 11:20
Red bow and Just Ignore Them are both made with AGS.
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: eri0o on 01 Apr 2021, 11:41
My big sister too. I have them on Nintendo Switch, they are good games, everyone should play them!
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: Crimson Wizard on 01 Apr 2021, 11:52
I can confirm "Ashina" is made with AGS, the demo is free and it's only 150 MB so easy to check out:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1259180/Ashina_The_Red_Witch_Prologue/

I believe Stranga is using same "engine" they scripted within AGS for most of their latest games.
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: Laura Hunt on 01 Apr 2021, 12:17
Stranga had made a game (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=54761.0) used AGS, but he had just added four new games (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/search/creator:Stranga/1/name/asc/) on 24th March.
For Ashina I didn't see what engine was used in the itch.io page but I take your word for it but arjon just confirmed it's made with AGS.

You don't have to take my word for it, it's right there but for some reason, the text is white on white so you have to highlight it in order to see the additional info:

(https://i.imgur.com/BobqcRB.png)

Still, going by what Crimson Wizard said, it seems like this "Game Maker: Studio" is some kind of custom engine built inside AGS? If that's the case then it obviously belongs on the site, but giving it the same name as another well-known engine definitely invites confusion, imo.
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: eri0o on 01 Apr 2021, 12:25
Providing a screenshot from a website without linking it is weird.  :-\

Stranga has been here for long, isn't easier to just ask him?

Edit: I messaged Stranga this thread so he can just say something if he wants to.
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: Crimson Wizard on 01 Apr 2021, 12:30
They have twitter too :) https://twitter.com/hashtag/AshinaTheRedWitch?src=hashtag_click

if you have an account you may ask to clarify there (I don't).
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: arj0n on 01 Apr 2021, 13:48
Checked the files of all of them, here's the result:

Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: eri0o on 01 Apr 2021, 13:52
Gilbert, the restore on the AGS games DB can only be made by AGA?
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: Gilbert on 01 Apr 2021, 14:41
Yes probably. Maybe some of the global mods too. At least I don't have this option.

For the Game Maker: Studio part, note the colon there? I guess it meant the game was made with a game maker called Studio. Maybe the name Adventure Game Studio somehow (mis)led someone to think it's an adventure game maker called Studio?
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: Snarky on 01 Apr 2021, 14:43
Could it be that the maps or whatever were made with GameMaker, or that it's using GameMaker spritesets?

(As a global mod, I do not have the option to restore the entry, so it must only be AGA.)
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: LimpingFish on 01 Apr 2021, 23:50
Stranga had made a game (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=54761.0) used AGS, but he had just added four new games (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/search/creator:Stranga/1/name/asc/) on 24th March.

I can confirm that these are all pre-existing games, some a couple of years old, and I presume that the developer only got around to adding them on that date

My big sister too. I have them on Nintendo Switch, they are good games, everyone should play them!

They're on also on PS4 and Vita, though I believe the non-PC versions are ported by a third party in a different engine? The PC versions are AGS.

Could it be that the maps or whatever were made with GameMaker, or that it's using GameMaker spritesets?

Yeah, it wouldn't be too hard to create them in, say, RPGMaker, and export them to AGS. Or the developer may have purchased them ready-made.
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: Crimson Wizard on 02 Apr 2021, 00:28
My big sister too. I have them on Nintendo Switch, they are good games, everyone should play them!

They're on also on PS4 and Vita, though I believe the non-PC versions are ported by a third party in a different engine? The PC versions are AGS.

AFAIK at least Switch port was based on AGS, it was made by third party, they replaced the system-related side of the engine and did some optimizations to the code.
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: AGA on 02 Apr 2021, 10:19
I've reenabled Ashina.  Thanks for confirming they were all actually made with AGS, arj0n.
Title: Re: Non-AGS games in the database
Post by: Stranga on 15 Apr 2021, 23:56
Hello everyone! Sorry I didn't see this sooner and thanks @eri0o for forwarding this thread to me :)

I can confirm that all my games are made in AGS I do have a few Game Maker games out there but I didn't list them here.

To answer some questions:
I'm more than happy to answer any questions :)

Here's  a few screens of Ashina/Ash Pines in engine: