Here's the NEWER, FIXEDEDER version. It contains less bugs, and more Oomph.
1. Changed intro dialog
2. Added new screen to intro
3. Added hotspot names, interactions
4. Added inventory LOOK interactions.
5. Fixed the GUI
6. Fixed the Window in the Attic.
7. Fixed the USE PILLS thing, the lazy person way.
8. Fixed USE STAIRWAY in the Dream World Entrance.
9. You can now feed the bird.
10. Fixed Sign in Zitrahajin
11. Fixed Barwoman+Dialog
12. Fixed 'Tunnels' intro
13. Wrote a long list of things I fixed
14. Added READ ME FIRST and E Booklet.
15. Credited SSH
16. Edited opening credits
17. Spelled Petteri's Surname.
18. Changed some of the settings randomly.
19. Ripped off the Grim Fandango Help File.
20. Made it to 20 with the list of fixed stuff.
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Beyond Reality (http://www.agagames.com/games/others/BeyondReality.zip)
Beyond Reality is about a guy, who, you know. Okay so one day he stays in this inn and then this guy steals this kid and then Ian, the guy you are... he meets this girl and he goes after the kid into this DREAM WORLD, and he does all this awesome and cool stuff that's all just a dream, and then he goes to rescue the kid right, and he like, totally rescues the kid. Only for some reason, perhaps to leave room for a sequel or perhaps it was a mistake, but we never rescue the kid. But it's awesome and you will like it.
I think I'm manic depressive.
No screenie?
Half a cheer for Yufster!! hip hip, HOO
Edit: dang... can't download... ...great, now I have to wait an hour... ...bloody geocities
No, no screenie. Go away. And are you calling me a whore?
*uploads a screenshot quietly without anybody noticing*
Are you looking for bug reports/typos, or would you rather not know about them?
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There's only one B in hobo
In my mind, there are two Bs, and everything is perfect and just how it should be.
Except that I forgot to credit SSH. I'm sorry! Did I tell you how HOTTTT I think scottish accents are?
What's the game about?
I am downloading it! It better be good, or else... Or else Pizza The Hot is gonna send out... for YOU!
*sigh*
I swore that no matter how buggy it was, that was it. It was over and I was done. Now here are some known bugs which I will be forced to fix.
1. SSH is not credited even though he is awesome.
2. You can't scroll on the menu bar. Not that you ever get enough items to want to do that.
3. Here's the biggy: When you feed... wait. Spoiler.
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When you feed the bird the laxatives, Ian BECOMES STUCK. You need to wait until you have the Snake and the Paint. Use the snake and the paint together, and then use it on the bird before/after giving him the laxatives. This'll unstick you.
4. Hobo only has one B.
4.5 Don't use the rope on the tree. Don't.
5. Entire game will fuck you over, rape you and leave you in a ditch somewhere.
The little of the game I've seen so far is very atmospheric.
A few things, though --
1. I was mildly annoyed that I couldn't skip any of the lines in the intro cutscene.
2. Whether directed at a hotspot or an inventory item, the LOOK AT command rarely elicits a response of any sort.
3. How do you eat the sleeping pills? I can't just USE them, USE them on myself, on the empty pill bottle, or anything.
WOOHOO!
I'll download it as soon as my exam week is over (that'll be friday).
Quote from: big brother on Tue 25/11/2003 07:00:36
The little of the game I've seen so far is very atmospheric.
A few things, though --
1. I was mildly annoyed that I couldn't skip any of the lines in the intro cutscene.
2. Whether directed at a hotspot or an inventory item, the LOOK AT command rarely elicits a response of any sort.
3. How do you eat the sleeping pills? I can't just USE them, USE them on myself, on the empty pill bottle, or anything.
I second each of these points exactly. The number of "dead" hotspots made it feel like Syberia! I also like to skip text generally (I haven't tried reloading a game yet) and how the hopping heck do you take the sleeping pills?
I know that you're probably fed up of it by now, but these comments are only there because IT SEEMS SO GREAT: JUST A LITTLE MORE and you will have perfection.
Howdy Yuf,
Hm, okay I played for awhile and I have to agree with the comments made so far. The lack of interaction just makes the game seem so... empty. Hardly anything has a look description, so I have no idea what anything is.
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There's a note in the kitchen. YOu can even pick up the note. But you can't read the note! Argh!
I did manage to take the sleeping pills, but it was just through random clicking on my part.
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You should have a USE interaction with the bottle and have the character try and open it and mention the child-proof cap. Also, once I broke open the bottle, I LOOKED at the pills, and Ian ate them! It made no sense.
Some doors you have to WALK to, while others you have to USE to enter. Some doors nothing happens at all.
Some important hotspots don't even have labels at all, for example:
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the red paint bucket. I only guessed there was a hotspot there because the text label shifted when I scrolled over it.
Also, I don't get what's happening exactly... at one point Ian says he's looking for the lost tribe of the Gouda, but I have no idea who the Gouda are! I figure it's something I'm supposed to learn about somewhere else.
That said, graphics are gorgeous and the storyline seems interesting so far. Some nice animations and characters - the fact that Ian changes expression depending on his mood is a very cool touch. However, this game still seems more like a beta version than a final release. I want to keep playing but these minor bugs are just too frustrating. I know you are "sick of it", but if you find time to correct these issues, the game would be improved 100%.
Great! Im downloading it right now.
Beautiful game!
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Once I reach the giant bird and I use the luxative pills on it, the character gets stuck forever..
So far the game was really fun to play. I like all the shifting from one place to the next, and some of your animations are very impressive.
It is a pity I didn't save until I he got stuck. I'll see if I can replay this later and post more.
Great work.
I downloaded, saw the intro and now am between the dilemma "Broken Sword 3" or "Beyond reality". Ill play BR once I finish BS^_^ Seems nice so far though.
Whores.
Okay um SSH, I be needing some scripting help. I have no idea whatsoever as to why the inventory won't scroll. Besides that, I can't figure out how to USE the pills and on top of all of that, what was the other thing? Uh, yeah. Well it was something, anyway. I'll upload the fixed version and then, uh, do something. Credit SSH. That's right. And fix "hobo".
Anyhoo, thanks for all the response so far. I have no idea what my game is like anymore, because I've seen all the graphics and such so goddamned much that I'm literally sick of them. But, you know... apparently, nobody else is, so you know, awesome! Maybe I will fix those bugs after all. In fact, I'm gonna load up AGS right now!
Looks great, love the music. But with all the freaking bugs you have you should probably but an exit option. :P
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I CANT EVEN OPEN THE DAMN BOTTLE!
I don't know why, but i cannot download your game...i tried everthything; right clicking, pasting, clicking and nothing is working...whats up with that?
Uh yeah. Well, you know click them twice, Evil. It makes no sense. Just click them twice.
Why didn't you spell Petteri's second name? :P
You quit by pressing CTRL+Q. F5 and F7 are Load/Save respectively. Basically, I didn't add a nice load/save feature :)
STUFF I HAVE FIXED, BUT NOT YET UPLOADED, so technically, it is NOT FIXED YET.
1. The B in Hobo.
2. The Rope on the Tree
3. Entire Game will now NOT rape you but may molest you or any young children in the vicinity.
4. Fixed the GUI
5. SHH is now credited.
6. The Bug where he Stands in the Door like a Moron is fixed
7. Inventory Look Interactions added
8. Hotspots given NAMES, instead of informative BLANK SPACES.
9. You may now FEED THE BIRD.
10. Added this one, nice, new screen to the intro.
I'll wait, see what other bugs appear, and fix them to upload the finished version.
Quote from: Yufster the Psychadet on Wed 26/11/2003 15:05:15
You quit by pressing CTRL+Q. F5 and F7 are Load/Save respectively. Basically, I didn't add a nice load/save feature :)
but that's going in the manual that you're going to write, isn't it? ;D
no, no... you're final version will have this fixed, too!
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5. SHH is now credited.
I hope you spelled it right!
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I'll wait, see what other bugs appear, and fix them to upload the finished version.
I don't want to be a bother, but people are far more likely to play the game, and thus find any lurking bugs, if you upload a fixed version.
Oh TOTALLY going in the manual.
I have a group of suckers--- I mean, uh, testers --- at the moment, on a SECRET, HIDDEN FORUM, SOMEWHERE ON THE INTERNET, that are playing it through. They are reporting bugs like wildfire. Which doesn't really say much for me, does it? Oh well.
Pretty please upload the latest fixed version?
Here's some more bugs from you no-so-secret tester:
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In the first screen once you are asleep, walk to stairs should work as well as use. Also, Ian floats above the stairs.
As Dave said, why does Ian start going on about the Gouda when you talk to the guy in the pub. Some back story is missing, or I shouldn't have had that dialog option available until I did something else...
The town on the mountain should have bigger hotspots for the places: its a bit of a pixel hunt
The "barman" looks like a woman! And you forgot the "return" in one of your dialog options and it runs through to the next one!
Oh, and turn off your main GUI during dialogs
The metal lead is not spelt "led": that's the stuff you get inside pencils
mannequin, mannikin, manakin, manikin are all correct spellings, but I prefer the first one...
When you look at the shoe mannequin in the shoe shop, Ian should trun to look at it first, and even better get a bit closer to it if required. Maybe he can see through the shoe rack?
The area to leave the shoe shop is pretty small, you have to click right on the edge (not good if windowed)
Reading the shoe shop banner gives some wierd numbers (this might be deliberate)
and i accidentally gave the laxatives to the bird so upload that darned fixed version!
I totally fixed a whole WHORE-house of stuff! To quote the main page:
Here's the NEWER, FIXEDEDER version. It contains less bugs, and more Oomph.
1. Changed intro dialog
2. Added new screen to intro
3. Added hotspot names, interactions
4. Added inventory LOOK interactions.
5. Fixed the GUI
6. Fixed the Window in the Attic.
7. Fixed the USE PILLS thing, the lazy person way.
8. Fixed USE STAIRWAY in the Dream World Entrance.
9. You can now feed the bird.
10. Fixed Sign in Zitrahajin
11. Fixed Barwoman+Dialog
12. Fixed 'Tunnels' intro
13. Wrote a long list of things I fixed
14. Added READ ME FIRST and E Booklet.
15. Credited SSH
16. Edited opening credits
17. Spelled Petteri's Surname.
18. Changed some of the settings randomly.
19. Ripped off the Grim Fandango Help File.
20. Made it to 20 with the list of fixed stuff.
Beyond Reality (http://www.agagames.com/games/others/BeyondReality.zip)
W000000000000000000000000T!!!!123456789
Downloading the updated version NOW!!
--Snake
PS
I love the intro sequence :)
consider me downloading. I'll edit this once I actually play it
This newest link doesn't work.
Right, should be working again now.
WTF??? When I try to skip the intro this happens:
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Illegal exception
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An exception 0xC0000005 occured in ACWIN.EXE at EIP = 0x0049D8F1 ; program pointer is +6, ACI version 2.56.627, gtags (0,28)
AGS cannot continue, this exception was fatal. Please note down the numbers above, remember what you were doing at the time and notify CJ on the Tech forum.
Most versions of Windows allow you to press Ctrl+C now to copy this entire message to the clipboard for easy reporting.
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OK
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....You pressed ESC and that error came up?
That doesn't happen with me. Does anybody else get this error? Where were you in the intro? What did you press?
I'm not getting this error. Hmmm.
first, I went to the setup and checked all the usual boxes: 85hz, letterbox, anti-alias
then I started the game and pressed escape(happens anywhere in the intro).
When I tried without the Anti-alias it worked!!!!11! BUGBUGBUG
Well then, I have two ways to solve this problem
1. Enable Anti Alias mode, do not skip intro
2. Disable Anti Alias mode, skip intro.
Yay!
Well this is an interestimng & mysterious game, but you need to improve your plot advancing skills.
I need help:
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I fed the bird the snake & lax, got the rope. Also have the pillow case and the older inventory. What do I do next? I have no idea
I downloaded the fixed version, but I still cant just Use the pill bottle... does it work for you, Yufster?
Also, hobo isn't fixed in the intro!
Why not dump all text into a file and run a spell checker on it?
Nostradamus this might help...
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at the left of the screen at the tent entrance is a path.
more details...
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look at the flower
still more...
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use bug on red leather jumping sack
Another hint...
[/spoiler] ask shoe sales person for fee stuff to get insoles [/spoiler]
more details...
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dip them in led melter
more...
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look at shoes near blue jumping sack
when you've done all this you can talk to the guy by the door of the tent to let him know you're ready to race.
SSH
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when on the roof use the bottle on the far right of the screen. It should say something about a big drop.
Yufster the Psychadet now that the bugs are fixed I've really been enjoying the game, but I'm stuck too.
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I've won the race & bought drinks for drunk to get him to tell me his secret. After the cut scene I was in front of doo in woods but I can't interact with anything there. I went back to the cave entrance, but without bugs I can't get past guard, & I can't find any bugs anywhere. (the one I got from the flower disappeared after using it on the red sack, & yes I did try it on the guard first)
help I don't know what to do next.
Cool Yufster, I love it, even though there are some minor bugs. Some things I noticed:
- The music in town... well, I thought I sent you a bit modified version, but if not, I can send it again :P
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- When I entered the bar I wondered what's that clan Ian's talking about. But after feeding the bird and talking with the oldman at the cliffside again, I realised what it was all about. I even had a chat with the clan before I feed the bird, so maybe it would be better that you can't go into the town until you have feed the bird or something...
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- After I got into the caves after scaring the guard at the cave entrance, I can't go upper level, but according the note I should go there. Ian just can't walk there.
But all in all, nice job :) Story is interesting and graphics (especially cutscenes) are wonderful.
Nice game so far Yufster, I haven't got far yet, but it looks to be interesting. I'll play some more when I have time.
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just a small bug, I used the fishing rod to open the attic, while standing around the corner to the left, and he walks straight through the wall (not around the corner) to get to the spot.
A few more interactions would be nice, and hotspot labels etc. An unhandled event function is actually relatively easy to make, and can help the player a lot, there's a couple of little suggestions, but of course it's up to you.
look forward to playing some more
~Tim
Petteri, to go to the upper level you just click on it. It can be a bit tricky sometimes, and I'm not sure why because... it's a large hotspot and all. Just keep trying, it'll work.
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How do you get into the cave?
Another bug:
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I met with the Gouda. Still dn't have any insect to use on the guard.
I went up to the cliff and when I use the rope on the tree to climb down, Ian says "no" then does tie the rope and then the game crashes with:
[Room 26 script line 19]
Error:ObjectOn: invalid object specified
Note: I'm still playing the first version, as I was way in progress to start over with the new version. But from your list of changes I don't think you fixed this bug anyway
gmcmom:
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Use the feather to the rope (or rope to the feather)
But now I'm stuck again:
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Mort catched me and trapped to the jail. After escaping I went into a machine room (or whatever it is) and got cutscene in which Ian punches Mort etc. etc. and now I'm stuck. I used string with petrol and got petrol soaked string (which is bluecup in the inventory btw.) but don't know what to do next. I also have fire exthinguisherthingymajig, but don't know what to do next :P
The Tree Bug IS fixed in the new version :)
Petteri, in answer to your question...
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Use the flammab....
SHIT, bluecup!!! ANYway...
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...Use the petrol soaked string on the fire extinguisher and use the flammable mass on the hook, then light the string with the matches and voila.
Hmm... I guess there's a bug, because...
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...when I use the petrol soaked string on the fire extinguisher, nothing happens. Okay, so I played the game again and saved before I used the string on the petrol. Now I used the string on the fire extinguisher and then the petrol on the fire extinguisher with string tied to it, and it worked.
Ehm... did you try
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using the EXTINGUISER on the Petrol soaked STRING? and Vice Versa? Crap, I hate dumb bugs :(
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I got stuck in the same place and tried everyway but it only worked if I used the string on the extinguisher first
But when the bugs are fixed it will be a great game!
How to obtain the paint?
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perhaps you may be able to swap it with something
Heya, here is a cute little buggy I discovered as soon as I started the game. You might have already changed it because I was playing the first version:
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I am an addictive saver and MUST SAVE EVERY 3 SECONDS or I will have a heartattack. :P Anyway, I opened up save and to my amazment there was already a game saved on there called "fhdfh". Apparently it comes up at Kid's Corner and the player has some really wierd items.
I finished the game and I just want to say that it was a wondeful game. Great sory, great puzzles, great dialougues.
Will be looking forward for your next game.
What you should improve hogh is has more hotspot descriptions.
I too finished it and I enjoyed it, but I have a question.
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At the end, the guy says "Speaking of which, Ian..." then the credits roll. Is there supposed to be a bit after that, cos I couldn't see anything.
I'm not sure how I missed this thread... Hmm. In any case, I'll definitely download it when I get home and back to my own PC. Congrats for finishing!
What should i do after meeting the Clan and getting the rope by waking the bird?I got the larve from flower but it doesn't seem to work with the guard.
I still can't even get him to take the pills.. I'm stuck in the attic with nothing but matches, note, pill bottles, and a crate that no interactions work on. What's the deal?
shbazjinkens, and anyone else who wants to read my puzzle-solving anecdote...
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Weren't we supposed to take them with water?
Well, I couldn't find any until, on the roof (surely you can find that), I spotted a blue blob.
Ah, water, I thought ... but there was no hotspot.
But then I moved the mouse a bit more to discover 'a large drop'! That'll do nicely :-)
Filling the empty container didn't work, so I tried the full one, and all was well ;-p
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thanks, I think I skipped a pretty good portion of the game though.. I left the mountain and went to the town and asked a drunk about "gouda" when I didn't know anything about them before. Then suddenly I'm on a mission of some sort. Weird.
Yufster :D
I love your game, it's just so lovely weird. 8) But I think the old man at the motel looks like an old woman. I thought about commiting suicide when he was referred to as "his" and not "her". Waaah, see, your game made me crazy... uga uga boom booom :o
One thing i find a bit weird is:
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When Ian greets the barwoman he says "Hello, sir"
Quote from: Inkoddi on Fri 05/12/2003 15:24:50
One thing i find a bit weird is:
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When Ian greets the barwoman he says "Hello, sir"
I loved that part :D It's like Simon is reffered to being a little girl ;)
Bug:
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I won the sack race without cheating! Did not need to use the bug or the lead insoles. I tried racing again after using those items, and my game froze.
BTW: Where can I find the laxitive?