You're WRONG! (And it pee's me off)

[m0ds]

Someone ever told you something that you just KNOW isn't correct? I'm not talking about lies, but they state a fact or comment and it just angers you because you know they're wrong?

Well, let's see what's bugging you.

For example, in IRC the other week, someone said, "The theme to Back to the Future is one of John Williams' finest."

YOU'RE WRONG! WRONG WRONG WRONG MOFO. Williams had nothing to do with any of the BttF movies. The music was composed by Alan Silvestri.

There. Anyone else? Doesn't have to be from IRC. Could be something you're mum said :p Perhaps we'll learn something from this too, muha!

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m0ds

[Eggie]

I can never remember the BttF theme.
Which is odd because I'm usually able to remember most music and hum it in an irritating fashion.
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Yup...

[Minimi]

Well, it pisses me off, when people tell me that poker is gambling. And that poker is about luck.

Because THEY ARE WRONG! I'm a poker player, and I tell them ofcourse that there is skill involved and that's it's not just about luck. THAT PISSES ME OFF!!! I read 4 books about poker, and they haven't and they think they can tell me what's right... AAARRGGGHH!!!

[Darth Mandarb]

I was sittin' in Detroit Metro airport one time.

There was this fellow chattin' it up with a woman sittin' next to me.

This fellow was rather loquacious and just wouldn't shut up.

He told her, "Before I die I want to see all 7 of the great wonders of the ancient world.  The Taj Mahal, The Great Wall of China, The pyramids" (can't remember the other ones he said), then he says, "I can't remember the last one ..." paused for a second, "Oh, the grand canyon"

I almost jumped up and screamed, "You FUC#$NG MORON!!!"  but of course I just remained silent and laughed at his idiocy inside.   I think he just got his wonders mixed up ... but still.

He named 7 things (all of which are marvelous ... don't get me wrong) but of the seven he named only 1 was actually in the list of 'Ancient' wonders.

Oh well ... he seemed a nice enough fellow.

The 7 Wonders of the Ancient World:
- The Great Pyramid of Giza
- The Hanging Gardens of Babylon
- The Statue of Zeus at Olympia
- The Temple of Artemis at Ephesus
- The Mausoleum at Halicarnassus
- The Colossus of Rhodes
- The Lighthouse of Alexandria

Now something tells me he'd have a hard time seeing most of these things?

[Ciro Durán]

lol... actually he'd only travel to Egypt... the pyramids are the only standing 'Ancient' Wonder these days... he'd have to play FoA to see something else (Sorry, it was stronger than me )

[shbaz]

It makes me mad when people think that everyone who has a skateboard should be able to do tricks on command. You think everyone who skateboards just does it to look cool and do tricks for your amusement?! EAT SHIT!!

Ok, that's one, and President Bush, my roomate is going to vote for him and can't give any freakin' good reason why.. "He just looks good, like a president. Democrats ruin the economy (). He's smart." WTF??? YOU'RE WRONG BITCH!

[Trapezoid]

Minimi: I dunno, I'd say poker is half-gambling at least. I mean, it doesn't matter how much skill you have, if you get a useless hand you're screwed!

[Timosity]

Just on gambling, "Black Jack" as far as odds in your favour is the only smart game to play, except you're probably still smarter to save your money.

I hate it when people think they can beat the casino, eventually you will always lose (unless you know some tricks, but if you get too good you will get kicked out. They consider clever people cheaters yet they cheat everyone. Best to either own a casino or stay the hell out [unless you just go once for a bit of fun at little cost])

but some dickheads think they'll just win, and brag that they always do, (those people just don't mention when they lose big time)


The heading of this topic comes up a lot in real life and causes arguments between friends and family that can multiply into serious things like divorce. If only people could sometimes admit when they're wrong.

[Las Naranjas]

I got an autistic sidekick, so I can beat them.

[DGMacphee]

Yeah, definately.

We're gonna be counting cards -- Definately counting cards.

But I'm also a really good driver.

Sometimes Dad lets me drive along the driveway.

* DGMacphee slaps his head a couple of times, dances with Naranjas and wins an Oscar.

[Nine Toes]

Well, the one thing that irritates me when people get their facts wrong, is in the music world.

It bugs me when people give me false news, like "(this guy) died." Or "(this band) split up/is releasing a new album."  When you know for a fact that it's not true.

Another thing about music that irritates me is labeling.  Why do people have to pick this shit apart?  I tell them, "just shut yer yap and listen... you're gonna go deaf one day, and you'll be sorry you wasted all your time picking music apart and labeling it instead of just listening to it and enjoying what it's worth".  What the hell happened to the good old days of Led Zepplin, when it was rock and roll or is wasn't?  Nowadays you got you alternative (a very vague classification, seems like anything could fit in here), punk, emo, goth, trance, dance, hip hop, r&b... and there is like 50 bazillion different types of metal; rap metal, heavy metal, black metal, death metal, funk metal, vampiric metal, NU-METAL....

Which brings me to my final point.  I don't like how every new metal band that comes out these days is considered Nu-Metal.

I remember a year or so ago, Dave Williams, the lead singer for Drowning Pool, died on the Ozzfest tour.  I was reading a post in a forum about his death... some punk wrote, "I'm glad he's dead, it's one less crappy Nu-metal band."

The hell is he talking about?  Drowning pool wasn't Nu-metal...  Nu-metal was the term coined to describe Korn's musical sound.  By definition, Nu-metal is "heavy metal blended with rap and hip hop influences".  In other words, Limp Bizkit, (hed) p.e., and various other bands would be considered Nu-metal, because of their rap-like vocals/nature.

Not to mention it wasn't very cool to say, "I'm glad this guy is dead...", but anyway...

I hate it when people get stuff like this wrong.  Music is what makes the world go round... it's no wonder the world feels so segregated and shallow these days.

[Minimi]

Minimi: I dunno, I'd say poker is half-gambling at least. I mean, it doesn't matter how much skill you have, if you get a useless hand you're screwed!

Not true! There are far more elements involved. Practically you can win the hand, with shit cards. That is called semi-bluffing. Say you play against 2 other players in a holdem game, and they checked at the turn, and there lyes 9h 10h Qs 3h. You could bet really high, wich makes your opponents think you have the flush of hearts. You might say now, what if you your opponent does have the flush? Well here is getting the reading hands part involved. There are long formula's for reading hands, and when you play poker in real (not online wich im doing), then you can also read the hand by noticing the behavior of the player.

Ofcourse there is a small part of "luck" involved, but saying your screwed with a useless hand is just nonsence!

[Nacho]

Well, it pisses me off, when people tell me that poker is gambling. And that poker is about luck.

Because THEY ARE WRONG! I'm a poker player, and I tell them ofcourse that there is skill involved and that's it's not just about luck. THAT PISSES ME OFF!!! I read 4 books about poker, and they haven't and they think they can tell me what's right... AAARRGGGHH!!!

It can´ be luck, as, from an initial group or 400 players, every year the same 4 or 5 guys reach the final of the Poker World Series in Las Vegas.

[Las Naranjas]

Oh, and I might as well mention to Darth that those are only the most commonly listed 7 wonders. It was a fad amongst the ancients to go round making lists of the greatest 7 wonders, much as it is a habit in modern society to make top 10 lists of films, songs, albums and adventure games.

That said, the "wrong" ones you cite either hadn't been built yet, or were unknown to the mediterraneans.

[Pessi]

I get that feeling a lot from one of my friends. He's one of the few guys who's interested in serious discussion, like debates and such, but he just keeps going "you're wrong, I'm right".

Here's a situation I had a couple of weeks ago. I showed my friends (that guy being one of them) a digital painting made by Craig Mullins, who I respect a lot. He's definitely one of the most skillful artists around these days, in my opinion. If anyone has ever checked Sijun forums, you'll see that I'm not the only one thinking that way.

Here's the image I'm talking about, if anyone wants to agree or disagree with me.

The first response is "what's so good about that?" The next one was "he probably used filters on that". I was completely stunned. Then he goes "you probably don't even know what can be done with filters." It was no use pointing out the perspective, composition and the wonderful hues. Funny how I got so angry over such a minor issue. It's just the feeling of how can anyone be SO WRONG. Added to the fact that the guy knows very little about art. I kind of regret for being so supportive for his art. It obviously was only encouraging him to believe he's good at art, instead of motivate working harder. Although I'm not going to make him feel bad by being destructively critical about his art experiments in the future either, I might recommend a reality check.

It's just that when someone who really knows basically nothing about art starts telling me what the painting is and isn't... That's a pissed of Pessi, something you don't see that often.

Something I probably shouldn't say but just have to - I get this same feeling everytime I hear someone praise the Kill Bill movie. When they start going on about style and whatever...   I haven't heard anyone give good enough reasons to prove me that they would actually respect the movie for something else than Tarantino. Actually, when I told my older brother that I didn't really like the movie, he responded "do you know who directed that movie?" The friend I was talking about earlier said the movie had ingenious camera angles etc. When I asked him to show me one, he just said that you'd need an expert on that field. RIGHT. Not that Tarantio wasn't an amzing director but some criticism wouldn't be bad once in a while. I totally agreed with Eric on the Kill Bill thread, as frustrating as it was.

But then again, who's right, who's wrong? They enjoyed the movie, I didn't. They win. Besides, when it comes to movies it's more of a matter of opinion. I've just seen too much unreasoned praise that really goes beyond anything I've seen before.

I hope I'm not making this another Kill Bill thread.   If anyone wants to prove me wrong (which would be great) - PM me. Otherwise, rant on!

[Privateer Puddin']

Can you ask him what filters i need to make that?

[TheYak]

Craig is one hell of a painter, I highly doubt he'd resort to any cheap effects.  One example: He's got a painting of the Palace of Fine Arts in San Francisco. Here.  He hasn't painted in the ultra-fine details, or even kept everything in happy straight little lines but the lighting, shadows and splashes of color precisely mimic the building itself.  A couple people commented that they thought it might be the Palace of Fine Arts but I had no doubt.  He's captured it beautifully, even the "mood."

[Pessi]

Exactly! And no filter could make those colors and shapes. If one hasn't tried it out, I suppose it's pretty hard to appreciate it, I guess. But hey, if he can do it with a filter - more power to him!

As for the filter, he thought it could have been some kind of a scratch filter. I don't know, beats me. He wasn't that willing to try the filter out.

Anyway, it was really annoying at the time but after the rant it's all good. I won't try to argue with him about art again!

[Peter Thomas]

My mum pisses me off sometimes (I probably shouldn't say that... sorry mum), because of her 'nutrition' ideas.

I'm fairly fit and healthy, but I stick to a low-carb diet for various reasons. My mum has just recently decided that she'll go on a health kick too, but she's on a different diet (your average 'eat what you want as long as it's not crap' diet), and says that she's got more of a clue than me because she went to a dietician 9 years ago who told her to eat more oat-bran to lower her cholesterol!!

I mean, power to her, for sure, but she has done absolutely NO research on my side of the coin (I'm not doing a ridiculously low carb diet) and just assumes she's better because she saw a certified doctor 9 years ago. I've given up talking to her about it, because it always ends up with her getting upset because she thinks I want to lose weight to become anorexic... (I'm 72kg.... get real)

i would LOVE to take her to see a doctor and hear him tell her that she's full of crap. It's an awful thing to say about my mother, I know, but if she would just GET OVER IT!!! *sigh*

[Ali]

I'm always correcting people when it comes to the use of words.

So:

Minimi, unless the outcome of a game of poker is can be determined before it is played, then to put money on a hand is gambling. There is skill involved in football, but if I bet on a match I'm still gambling.

I just don't know how someone could make such a maleficious argument.