gameplay idea

deltree · Mon 09/02/2004 13:36:18

hi there,
I've been looking for a adventure game that would have multiple way to solve a puzzle.
I mean, just like Deus Ex, if for example you need to go through a door but it is locked, then you can:
either destroy the door (basic/fighting way), either find the key /code (smart way), either find the guy that can open the door (smarter way), either go in front of the door, dressed like the pizza delivering man (funny/lol way)

Did anyone already do this kind of game with AGS?
is anyone interested in doing this?

Chicky · Mon 09/02/2004 15:58:56

sorry to say but seing as this is a question not a game idea, it cannot be critised. I think it should be moved to the adventure related chat forum.

to your question, as far as i know no one's done this.

-a chicken

Kweepa · Mon 09/02/2004 18:13:02

There are a bunch of alternatives in Fate of Atlantis...
eg, to get into the theatre at the start, you can talk your way in, brawl your way in, or sneak your way in.
It worked pretty well.

I don't see why this shouldn't be in critic's lounge - it's an idea for a game that can be criticized.

Chicky · Mon 09/02/2004 18:18:09

Quote from: deltree on Mon 09/02/2004 13:36:18
is anyone interested in doing this?

ohh i see, sorry i didnt notice this. Yeh it worked exellently in fate of atlantis, and i'd love to see someone do this with ags Go for it!

-a chicken

MrColossal · Mon 09/02/2004 19:16:29

maniac mansion also

tons of ways to solve puzzles and tons of puzzles to solve with different characters

deltree · Tue 10/02/2004 02:09:18

actually, I've played both maniac mansion and fate of atlantis, and I didn't really get the fact that some action could be done in multiple way.

I had to use the "solution" found on internet to finish it...
unfortunately, most of the adventure game I play (I mean old school A.G like the one made with AGS) are too hard, and needs a walkthrough to finish it. most of them have weird solutions.

I think that a good idea to increase gameplay in adventure game would be to give the character the oportunity to solve one problem in a radical way, such as exploding the door that is locked. of course, it would be much more intersting to use a smart way, but, in the end, the player don't get stuck in a situation stupidly.

Gilbert · Tue 10/02/2004 02:21:07

Also, in some sense, you can treat the QFG series of having this design, as you may need to solve puzzles in different ways if you choose different jobs.

aussie · Tue 10/02/2004 07:22:09

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GarageGothic · Thu 12/02/2004 09:51:37

The thing is. Fate of Atlantis actually has very few alternative solutions. It IS multi-linear in that you can choose one of three routes (team, fists, wits), but once you've chose there is only one way to go through that route. The first part of the game can be solved in several ways, and Sophia will actually suggest that you take the path that matches your solution of the first couple of puzzles.

The Last Crusade on the other hand was a true masterpiece of alternate solutions and whole scenes that could be avoided with a bit of thinking (getting Hitler to sign the pass was my favorite, because it actually requires you to do the seemingly wrong thing and give the colonel the REAL grail diary). And Zak McKracken was great in the respect too. Maniac Mansion was more open than FOA, but the selection of your team members limited the options a bit. Not as much as choosing a path in FOA though.

Every good game should have multiple puzzle solutions. As long as they would work in real life, they should work in the game. That's why I love the Hitman games as well as Deus Ex, because you're only limited by the environment.

Trumgottist · Thu 12/02/2004 11:54:16

Take a look at The Erudition Chamber.