strong language be adviced. My encounter with a woman driver

[Nikolas]

Ok.

I'm pissed off to no end! Simply because I couldn't kill that woman, not that she deserved to be killed or anything but simply because I couldn't take it out on her!

I'm driving, while listening to Radio 3 (classical music) on the radio. There is an almost stationary driving "q", and I'm doing something like 10 mph (or less probably). The driver in front of me is driving rather nervously and suddently while we are almost ready to go to 11 mph, she hits the breaks hard and the keeps on going, just to keep me away from her. But we are going so slow and there is no way to actualyl keep any real distance from her so I keep driving as I do. The minute her car comes to a stop, in front of a red light, she comes out of her care fumming and screeming and swearing to me: "Will you get the fuck out of my ass?", I smile and response the only thing I could, simply because I really believe that it's not nice to swear (or hit) a woman, "What?". She goes on then :"Fuck off", "You bitch!" and so on! So while I start to get pissed off and the light has turned green and whle I'm thinking that in all honesty I can also swear much worst than her, that I can be really scary (trained MP) and that I can actually beat the shit out of her I go on :"How do you talk to me like that? The light's gree btw" (still smiling). She gives me the finger and goes back to her car. She takes off, I miss the green light on purpose, the driver behind me (a male), salutes me and the incident is done!

Now my nerves are recked, because for no real reason I got a woman yelling and calling names and speaking so badly to me.

My problem mainly lies with all women who act like that! I mean if you (women) want to act and speak like sluts, shouldn't you be prepared to take the consequences? How would you feel if a guy 1.94m started yelling at you, much louder than you ever can, and start calling you names (and your family and your religion and whatever on the process, cause frankly when I'm pissed I'm pissed all the way), and even start beating you up? Cause in the end, if the driver in front was a male, I could end up fighting. And there wouldn't be much of a problem really. We would fume out, relax in the end, get a beating both of us adn that would end...

But how long will the women be bassed on the simple fact that they're women, so they can do whatever they want without any big deal?

GRRRRRRRRRRRR

Just wanted to get it out of my systems.

And also here's a new thread that has nothing to do with religion!

And also also, I wish that the old school Squinky will read this!

[Kweepa]

Hmm...
I applaud her for telling you not to drive so close. Malakas.

[Becky]

Men are just as bad as women are.

[Nikolas]

Thanks Steve. Glad to know that the word is universally known

Becky: That's not my point! I didn't say that she drove bad! I'm pissed because she could swear, yell and do whatever she wanted knowning that I couldn't do anything to her. That's my point. When I call names, yell and whatever to another man, I'm ready to pay the price (fight or get yelled back), was she? Are you ready to get yelled back at if you yell at the road or wherever? Or you hide behind the fact that you're a woman?

[SSH]

If someone behind me is driving too close, I slow down until their distance is safe for the speed we end up going.

[Nikolas]

And what do you do if a woman (driver or not driver) keeps on yelling and swearing at you? Nothing probably!

What do you do if a male (driver or not driver) keeps on yelling and swearing at you? You asnwer back!

[Khris]

Seriously, did she expect you to keep 50m distance in the city at 10mph?
My guess is that she was extremely insecure about driving a car and was constantly afraid that she would get into an accident.

I was in a similar situation once.
I was driving around the block in the city, looking for a parking space. The speed limit was 50km/h, and I wasn't going faster than 40 (I checked that when I knew I'd hit her).
While approaching an intersection, I noticed a car coming from the left. It had to wait for me to pass, so I thought it would. Wrong.
That bitch slowly entered the intersection, so I started to move my foot over to the brake. When she stopped right before my lane, I was sure that she had seen me and would wait for me to pass. Wrong again. She proceeded to drive right in front of my car.

She must have completely misjudged either my velocity or my distance from her, probably both.
I hit the brakes hard and steered slightly to the right, at the same time I yelled "Hold on!" at my girlfriend in the passenger's seat.
Then I hit her car.
Her right front tire went flat, and there were a few small scratches in the surrounding metal. And my beloved VW Golf II: totaled.

I was soo angry I could barely contain myself.
It was clearly her fault, and if I hadn't known better, I'd have thought she did it on purpose. It was like she attempted to get hit by me. I've never met someone so incapable of appreciating a simple, everyday traffic situation.
Every litte child running after a ball could have done a better job avoiding me.

When the police finally arrived (after more than half an hour...), she actually had the nerve to tell them that I had been speeding!
Luckily, the cops didn't believe her. To top it off, she wasn't even allowed to go straight from where she entered the intersection.

I was so pissed off.

[Radiant]

In my experience, against both men and women, a healthy dose of sarcasm usually does the trick.

That said, I don't particularly see why you can swear at a man but not at a woman. If you're a swearing kind of person, and the other party starts it, it's free game as far as I'm concerned.

[Nine Toes]

And what do you do if a woman (driver or not driver) keeps on yelling and swearing at you? Nothing probably!

I have really bad road rage.    I won't even repeat some of the things I've yelled to people...

EDIT: The thing is, I beleive it's healthy to just let go of your inhibitions sometimes (even if it is a woman).  I'll bet, if you had gone off on her, that she would have shut up and gotten back in her car, and you wouldn't have been feeling so crappy afterwards.  If you hold it in, it bottles up, and you'll end up taking it out on someone else (happens to me all the time).

Men are just as bad as women are.

No offense, but I don't see men flying down the freeway while trying to put on their makeup in the rearview mirror.

[BOYD1981]

No offense, but I don't see men flying down the freeway while trying to put on their makeup in the rearview mirror.

that's because we have the sense to do it before we leave 

[Mad-Hatter]

I'll bet, if you had gone off on her, that she would have shut up and gotten back in her car, and you wouldn't have been feeling so crappy afterwards.Ã, 

Somehow, I seriously doubt that.

I know quite a few people (who happen to be women, though that's probably a coincidence) who do things like that. And, from knowing them and watching them, I can honestly say that had you gotten out and yelled at her, she'd have yelled more at you. Probably woulda slapped you.

I hate to be sexist, but I agree with Nikolas on this one. A lot of women will do that sort of thing simply because they ARE women, and know that they can get away with it.

My sister, for example. I've gotten in tons of fights with her, and have more often than not ended up with some major injury (a busted open skull being the most memorable), and after talking about it later, someone will say, "You know, he had every right to get mad at you."

and her reply: "Yeah, but you're not supposed to hit a woman!"



My philosophy: If I am hit or yelled at, I will hit or yell back. Be it a man, woman, or some little retarded kid on the street.

[Nine Toes]

I agree.  Now, while I do not condone hitting women or yelling at them, I do believe in giving people what they have coming to them.

The woman was unneccesarily being a bitch.  If I had been in Nik's shoes, I would have gone off on her and called her every name in the book.  If I had gotten slapped... well... I don't know what I would have done in that case, though...  (take down her license plate and key the crap out of her car ¬_¬)  What can you do?  You can't hit her back...

[MrColossal]

In a way this shows you as being sexist and not the woman, Nikolas. Everyone is a little bit sexist but saying that you don't believe in swearing at a woman but it's ok to physically fight a man... That's crazy.

And where did you get this crazy idea that she knew because she was a woman you wouldn't touch her? Can you read minds? Did she tell you "And because I am a woman you will sit there and take what I have to say to you!"?

" mean if you (women) want to act and speak like sluts, shouldn't you be prepared to take the consequences?"

How do you know she wasn't ready for the consequences of a verbal arguement? Also, I don't think "slut" is the word you're looking for here. A slut is usually someone who sleeps around and is very promiscuous. A person who swears and picks a fight is... I don't know what the name would be... A human?

" How would you feel if a guy 1.94m started yelling at you, much louder than you ever can, and start calling you names (and your family and your religion and whatever on the process, cause frankly when I'm pissed I'm pissed all the way), and even start beating you up? Cause in the end, if the driver in front was a male, I could end up fighting. And there wouldn't be much of a problem really. We would fume out, relax in the end, get a beating both of us adn that would end..."

This confuses me too... Did she beat you up? How would you feel if someone started yelling and cursing at you for no reason? Well we know how you'd feel. Badly, since you posted this here. However just because she has ovaries means you have to be as nice as possible to her and avoid a fight? Tell her to fuck off, learn to drive and roll your window up.

Don't go blaming gender on something like this. She was highstrung over something and she blew up at you. Unfair sure but not because she knew she'd get away with hit or she has some sort of "Get out of jail free" card because she can give birth to babies.

"What can you do?Ã,  You can't hit her back... " argh I hate this too, bullshit, hit her back if you're a violent person or don't hit her back if you believe that violence solves nothing. Don't control your anger just because she's a woman. Have more control over your life/emotions than that!


...in my opinion...

[ManicMatt]

This post implies to me that if in this incident it had been a man that had got out of their car and shouted at you, you wouldn't have posted this thread.



Later dude

[Mad-Hatter]

I agree with MrCollosal, though I still stick to my philosophy of hitting or yelling at whoever hits or yells at me.

[Nikolas]

Eric:

True I may seem a little sexist in this case. In my normal life, I'm the one who cleans babys, fead them and everything else (clean the house). Because of my profession (composer who sits at his home composing) we have more or less reversed the process, of woman sit at home, man go to work. and dont' tell me that this is not the usual thing.

But I don't mind or anything. I actually like it, and feel in all honesty that male and female should be equal all the way.

Now on that matter though, somwhow I just couldn't get my self really to surpass the surprise first of all (since she was a normal girl returning from work, nothing spectuallar or anything), and yet still was he a male I would provoce him even more, where in this case I just wanted it to end this way.

I certainly got a feeling that she was pushing it, and in my mind she was doing so because she was covering behind the fact that she's a woman.

In this exact matter I am sexeist, no doutb about it. I confront differently females and males, no doubt. And I would like to think that many of you also do the same thing. But really I honestly think that if I had sweared back, inthe manner Iwould with a male, she wouldn't 've like it. I don't know... could be wrong though. There are females to tell me this here in the forums: If you swear to a male, and he talks back in the same (or worst manner), how would you feel? In all honesty. IF you hit him, how would you feel if he hit you back? (hypothetically, she didn't hit me)

Mat: If the incident was with a man, I would've answered so there wouldn't be really a reason for a thread.

Now... I'm completely calm, I've gone over it (of course...) and the question still remains:

Do women use their 'place as women' sometimes?

When I was younger I use my age as an excuse to swear the shit out of older people (and my brother who was 3 years older than me and always protected me). In the end I got beaten, cause my brother simply said: "Go ahead! The little shit deserves to be beaten up" (pretty much, not that I ended up in a hospital), and that taught me the lesson. Not to 'bluf'!

[Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens]

My philosophy: If I am hit or yelled at, I will hit or yell back. Be it a man, woman, or some little retarded kid on the street.

This philosophy is flawed because a mentally challenged child cannot be held up to the same standards as you or I, and more often than not they mimic behavior they encounter on a daily basis without any actual 'feeling' behind it.  How can I say this with confidence?  I've worked with mentally challenged children and adults for many years, and particularly with the severe cases, will mimic behavior they are regularly exposed to without even knowing why they do it.

This is not the case with a woman (supposing she hasn't escaped from a rehab program or institution) who springs out of her car in a moment of rage and verbally assaults you.  She knows what she's doing and why, and therefore deserves to reap the consequences--like that bus coming up quickly behind her.

[MrColossal]

In my opinion the reason she got more mad is because you weren't reacting to her in an angry way. She escalated to get you angry. Not because she was hiding behind her ovaries.

"Do women use their 'place as women' sometimes?"

Sure. So do men and so do children and so do blacks and so do whites. This is what Becky was talking about, I'm sure.

I'm really awesome and sometimes I let that get to my head and I strut around rubbing it in people's faces... But they're usually thankful just to be acknowledged by me so it's ok.

[Nikolas]

This is what Becky was talking about, I'm sure.

Hmmmm. Could be. Pretty much yes...

Bless the IRC also (I still don't use it and don't know why really...)

Anyhow... True all people use their 'places' at certain times. Thanks Eric.

[Mr Flibble]

If no-one ever discriminated on the basis of gender ever, birth rates would be pretty damn low.

Also, I bet that if the driver had been a man, he wouldn't have got out of his car. He would have flipped you the bird and driven on.