Half centaur/angel cartoon guy

ManicMatt · Thu 14/12/2006 11:38:58

I have the itch to make another game! Before I go animating this guy, I have to ask:

1) Improvements before I animate him? His left hand is bothering me. I won't do any shading or extra colours because it will put me off animating him! I made this guy much smaller than the last cartoon guy I did for even more easier animating! Anatomy isn't very important because he's a cartoon, unless there is something that looks just plain wrong to you!

2) Secondly, would you like to play a game with graphics like these? Is it preferable to my previous game's sprites? (In my signature)

vict0r · Thu 14/12/2006 11:58:18

-Try to move his left hand behind his pants/belt.

-His left horn is ATM wider at the top and more narrow in the bottom. Try to make it opposite.

-His beard is slightly wierd positioned. Try centering it more.

Otherwise, I think he is a great improvement to your last games chars!

Good job buddy!

ManicMatt · Thu 14/12/2006 15:14:42

Thanks! I changed his eyebrows and hair on my own initiative.

Moved the beard.

Raised his left shoulder and hid the hand.

The left horn is tricky for me because of the angle he is facing.

Tuomas · Thu 14/12/2006 16:36:56

Not to be picky, but a faun has horns and hooves and two feet, while a centaur has the lower body of a hirse and no horns. So that's a faun.

THat, and his hands should be lower to look more natural.

ManicMatt · Thu 14/12/2006 16:47:30

Don't worry, he isn't any particular mythical species, I just wrote that because I needed to describe him right now, for the time being.

I guess Faun is more accurate though. But then he has angel's wings, but he's not an angel either!

I think his hands are fine where they are, thanks! Note his trousers are hanging rather low.

Buckethead · Thu 14/12/2006 17:41:54

Hmmm the wings look a bit like they could also be hair coming out of his back. And his horn also could be donkey ears. also his 'feet' could stand out a bit more like the rest of him. And his left shoulder is still a bit higher then the other. For the rest I really like it! keep it up

ManicMatt · Thu 14/12/2006 17:55:01

I see what you mean. How could I make them look more like wings? (Think Gabriel or (Arch)Angel from X-men)

Same for the horns? (Except I like the shape of them)

Tuomas · Thu 14/12/2006 18:23:25

Quote from: ManicMatt on Thu 14/12/2006 16:47:30
I think his hands are fine where they are, thanks! Note his trousers are hanging rather low.

I don't mean to be pushy or anything, but his trousers appear to be pretty much where they usually are, just below the belly button, while his hands should reach to half thigh. If the pants were hanging you should be able to se his genitals(underpants).

Also, about the wings, they're usually feathers, see, here you have lines going throughout the shape of it, maybe you could try drawing the feathers or a featherlike pattern instead. What's more, the wings should prolly come from a bit to his left in order to be in the middle. Now the dividing line looks as if it's a bit to the other side.

But as you said, anathomy isn't that impostant, so I'll eave it be

InCreator · Thu 14/12/2006 20:42:30

Before animating...
...draw the side view. Looking at his pants and feet right now, I'd say they would look really weird from side. Which might mean that walkcycle wouldn't be very good.

ManicMatt · Fri 15/12/2006 01:06:51

Thanks!

Better?

Increator: Well.. this would be his side view, actually!

Okay, I think I am happy with him now! Cheers guys! When I come to making a character in my game do a walking animation, I always suck at them, even with tutorials, so I'll be sure to put it up here when it inevitably is made and sucks!

Buckethead · Fri 15/12/2006 11:00:39

here's my paintover:

I don't think the wings are any better. But I'm not a very good artist afterall. I succeded at doing horns better. I hope you like it.

ManicMatt · Fri 15/12/2006 13:17:44

Cheers! I took your horn design and curved them, and made the feather outline colour darker. Seems to have done the trick!

Buckethead · Fri 15/12/2006 14:02:09

great!

if he would only stand a bit more straight

Krysis · Fri 15/12/2006 20:45:42

His right shoulder is a little fat and the ears seem a little too big. The other thing are the wings... Here's a quick&simple reference I googled:

I hope you get what I mean. Maybe you should play with the colours a little.
Nice work though.

thewalrus · Sat 16/12/2006 04:36:05

Very nice work, Matt.... Much improved from your first game... I'm glad to see that you will be working on another game. You know you got a beta tester here..... Cheers, my friend!!!

ManicMatt · Sat 16/12/2006 10:54:58

Quote from: Krysis on Fri 15/12/2006 20:45:42
the ears seem a little too big.

Intentional! Thanks for the crit, but I am moving on to other sprites and backgrounds now! I can't improve this guy TOO much, that would make the other sprites look inferior, although I have learned some things about what to do when I draw the next sprite.

TheWalrus: Thankies! You'd like to beta test this game too? Cool, okay!

vict0r · Sat 16/12/2006 12:55:54

QuoteI can't improve this guy TOO much, that would make the other sprites look inferior

Well, this is totally up to you, but perhaps you could try using the spriting tips you get for one sprite, and use the same techniques on other sprites. If you never take these tips to you, you never improve! Or... In a much slower rate anyway.

You made the horns look much better, but I still think there is much to be improved!

For example:

QuoteI don't mean to be pushy or anything, but his trousers appear to be pretty much where they usually are, just below the belly button, while his hands should reach to half thigh. If the pants were hanging you should be able to se his genitals(underpants).

I don't see that you actually took this crit into considerations in your edit at all, even though it's what I'd say is the most anatomically incorrect here. (

) I know you want to make cartoony sprites, but even cartoons have right proportions to a certain degree!

Good job anyways amigo!

- vict0r

ManicMatt · Sat 16/12/2006 13:20:30

Quote from: the vict0r on Sat 16/12/2006 12:55:54
Use the same techniques on other sprites. If you never take these tips to you, you never improve! Or... In a much slower rate anyway.

Read my last post.

QuoteI don't see that you actually took this crit (the arms) into considerations in your edit at all, even though it's what I'd say is the most anatomically incorrect here.

I looked, I thought they were fine to me. Yes, about three pixels too short if he was real. But if that bothers you, you'll hate the backgrounds.. $:-\$