Shadows when the lights are off

Alynn · Sat 19/05/2007 09:49:37

This is more of an experiment than anything but anyway I have this room that I am happy with. However at one point the lights will be turned off while the door is still open. So I tried to do some shadows. For the most part, the shadows themselves are exactly as I want to do them, but I just want to make sure that I haven't missed an angle or something.

1X:

2X:

Anyway, it's mostly to check if it looks like I got the angles of the light correct, that's my main concern.

cobra79 · Sat 19/05/2007 11:39:05

Just to let you know I have great difficulties with lighting and I am also interested in the opinion of someone who knows what he is doing. A tutorial would be great.

If I had not seen your 2nd picture I would have done it something like this.

gASK · Sat 19/05/2007 11:53:33

cobra has shown one important thing in his picture - the dark parts of the room would not be completely dark due to light dispersion. The way it is now it looks kinda weird.

Plus I do not know where exaclty is the light source in the other room, but the line on the side wall surely would not be like it is - the horizontal line look unnatural.

Erwin_Br · Sat 19/05/2007 11:56:32

Your monitor must be more dark than mine, because the dark areas in the original image aren't 100% black. I can still see the door to the bathroom, and the closet.

--Erwin

space boy · Sat 19/05/2007 12:06:17

Ok, this is my attempt at it. Generally I think that the shadows are a bit wide in your picture but since you said they are as you want them to be I didn't mess too much with them. Just corrected the angles as I would see them.

Andail · Sat 19/05/2007 12:15:42

Hm, you need to meet halfway there. Spaceboy has got the shadows correct, but with too little dispersion. Cobra's edit hasn't really got the shadows right (for instance, the wall around the door wouldn't be bright just because it's close to the lightsource, since it's not hit by the light), but at least it has a modicum of dispersion and gradients. Cobra also applied some colours, which I certainly find fitting. I don't know what kind of room could offer entirely white surfaces on all walls like that, but I wouldn't wanna live there....

Khris · Sat 19/05/2007 14:32:49

Here's my shot at it:

I've positioned the lamp at the middle of the door and in the middle of the corridor (which is pretty wide, btw).

Since the vp is a little above the top of the door, the other door to the right should be a bit smaller. Would make the bg more dynamic, too.

cobra79 · Sat 19/05/2007 15:27:25

Sorry, but I still don't get it.

How can you combine the razor sharp shadows and the gradient stuff?
What about the wall of the bathroom and the right wall ? Should they be darker than the door wall?
My latest attempt...

space boy · Sat 19/05/2007 15:47:00

So far I like KhrisMUCs edit best. That's how I would imagine the light to enter the room. The angle of light shouldn't be too wide, just like in his picture.

gASK · Sat 19/05/2007 19:52:17

Quote from: Erwin_Br on Sat 19/05/2007 11:56:32
Your monitor must be more dark than mine, because the dark areas in the original image aren't 100% black. I can still see the door to the bathroom, and the closet.

--Erwin

Well, it turned out that the monitor I was working on at that time WAS really black. Nevermind what I said earlier, I just made a fool out of myself

markbilly · Sat 19/05/2007 22:04:15

space boy's is spot on. On my monitor anyway

And it's diffraction, not dispersion

Alynn · Sat 19/05/2007 23:18:13

Well as far as how much light is in the hallway, imagine if the drop ceiling continued on the corridor, there is a light (2 squares wide) in ceiling going the width of the hallway. From left to right it would be every third tile for the drop ceiling would be a light. So in the case of the pic itself, so in this picture, if the walls weren't blocking the hallway, there would be about five lights visible. Which comes out to fifteen 36 inch flourecent lights. This is based off the lighting used in the corridors where I work. IE the halls are very well lit. The light lines themselves I checked, and a light can be reached using a line. But in the end while Khris does have a good edit, there is way too many light sources in the hall to justify such a narrow beam. Although as an experiment, I'll use his version, and difuse the light out to my new version and see if that makes it a bit better. I just hope it keeps things under 150 colors.

As far as the corridor width, if each tile is 1.5 feet square, then the corridor is about 9 feet wide, which is about right. Plenty of room for a medical team with a gurney to rush down the hallway and those in the hallway to get out of the way. There are methods to my madness, there really is.

Anyway, long story short, spaceboy that was exactly what I was looking for for the angles. The bed isn't perfectly against the wall (the trim on the bottom keeps the bed from being flush with the actual wall itself). So here she be.

Oh and Andail, if you feel you wouldn't want to live there, then I have done my job, as that's the point. Although to be honest, this isn't unlike many a US military barracks room, with eggshell white walls, drop ceilings, and some trim if you are lucky (usually just some rubber kick strips).

Thanks everyone for your help.