AGS facts

arj0n · Wed 29/09/2010 11:16:02

Updated the fact list part "At 2010-09-28 the AGS database contains 1188 entries" from 1192 to 1188.

Because these entries are no ags game entries:

entry 84= is only an entry to notify about the RON games serie
entry 1123 = only a notification for the "enter the story" serie [1201 & 1202]
entry 1299 = is only a short animation, not an ags game
entrie 1334 = is a a gamemaker file [.gmk], so no ags game

abstauber · Wed 29/09/2010 19:23:09

Good news - I've archived my complete ac folder back in February 2000. So here's the final proof:

www.sonores.de/temp/ac.zip

Inside you'll also find my first (compiled) test game ever, dating November 99.

Enjoy

PS. I also have Alles Euro as an installer - but this ancient ac folder is much more interesting and contains TEH SOURCE

arj0n · Wed 29/09/2010 20:03:46

Quote from: abstauber on Wed 29/09/2010 19:23:09
Good news - I've archived my complete ac folder back in February 2000. So here's the final proof:

www.sonores.de/temp/ac.zip

Inside you'll also find my first (compiled) test game ever, dating November 99.

Enjoy

PS. I also have Alles Euro as an installer - but this ancient ac folder is much more interesting and contains TEH SOURCE

A-w-e-s-o-m-e-!
And thanx, this one goes into my ags games museum in a special glass case

B.t.w.: All 3 games run smooth on XP and after setting the soundcard to 'autodetect' even the music and sfx works ok.

test = indy-looking-guy test game [1999-11-29]
demo = demo quest [1999-12-29
pu = alles euro [2000-02-01] => 2000-02: so now you've officially beaten "Lassi Quest" being the proven 1st evah AGS game

Questions out of curiosity:
Does the indy-looking-guy test game got a 'real' name?
Where stands PU for?
Is this PU/'alles euro' version the complete game or a game in it's beta phase?
Has the other two demo's/test games ever been completed?

Thanx again Mr. Hochrotations-zerstÃ¤uber!

abstauber · Wed 29/09/2010 20:33:34

Haha.. cheers

Well demo is just Demo Quest, which came with AGS. It's also a reason why I chose AGS - it was the only free engine which could compile it's own demo. Oh well, Indiana Java could do that too but didn't have an IDE: roomedit ftw!

That test game is really just a small learning test. Just something small to see if AGS was capable of what I had in mind of Alles Euro. I know that there were bigger plans, but that cheesy recolored Indy were just a tad too cheesy.

PU stands for Projekt Unterricht, which means project education class - so yes, it was a school project in the first place. And a 1st class excuse to make games in school

The archive should contain the most recent version - although there is that installer, but the contents shouldn't differ.

'glad you had fun

Dualnames · Wed 29/09/2010 20:36:47

Yay abstauber! A man disregarded in history you were, but all is fixed now.

Ishmael · Thu 30/09/2010 11:06:19

This here says Lassi Quest is late '99.

http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/499552

So do a few other sources, some of which seem to have the exact same text but this is the first in the google results I spotted.

And has anybody asked visy for counter proof or have you just ruled over the whole deal?

arj0n · Thu 30/09/2010 11:37:57

Quote from: Ishmael on Thu 30/09/2010 11:06:19
This here says Lassi Quest is late '99.

http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/499552

So do a few other sources, some of which seem to have the exact same text but this is the first in the google results I spotted.

And has anybody asked visy for counter proof or have you just ruled over the whole deal?

My next step is indeed to ask Visy about this.
Also because in my opinion such documents like you posted ]http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/499552]are not really proof worthy. Only Visy's answers can clear up questions for me.

Still this is a strange fact:

Quote from: abstauber on Wed 29/09/2010 07:52:35
But how can you then explain that Lassi Quest uses the character from Alles Euro. That guy that I "open sourced" after my release.
Another proof is that Visy imported Lassi (who I named Mac) without blocking the palette, hence the strange colours.

But I like to make clear that I'm not doing this to change the well know fact on this forum/community that Lassie Quest should be the 1st ags game ever.
So sorry if I'm stepping on someone's toes...
I did this only for the 'ags facts' which Peder asked for... Thats all.

Dualnames · Thu 30/09/2010 11:39:26

I think this pretty much says it Ish.

Quote
But how can you then explain that Lassi Quest uses the character from Alles Euro. That guy that I "open sourced" after my release.
Another proof is that Visy imported Lassi (who I named Mac) without blocking the palette, hence the strange colours.

Though that can also go the other way. The thing is whoever created the character made the first AGS game

http://blog.sonores.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/alleseuro2.png

This image shows that the character fits this game more. So question is was the character given to visy/public after the release of Alles Euro?

arj0n · Thu 30/09/2010 11:48:53

Like abstauber said:

Quote
That guy that I "open sourced" after my release.

cat · Thu 30/09/2010 12:01:06

Just found this video: http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=ugHZDkCZACk

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Thu 30/09/2010 16:07:22

Well played, cat. Well played indeed.

cat · Thu 30/09/2010 16:23:39

There was no screenshot in the DB and I wanted to see how the game looks (and I love watching playthroughs)

I'm still confused because in the beginning the video says "it is seen as the first finished AGS game" and later on it says "The main character sprites are from a game called Alles Euro"

Is there also a youtube playthrough of "Alles Euro"? Didn't find one.

Dualnames · Thu 30/09/2010 17:10:51

Definitely it answers a main question, now the only question remains if Abstauber released the sprite before the game(Lassi Quest).

arj0n · Fri 01/10/2010 21:40:54

Added 4 ancient hourgames to the Quest list:

Ninja Quest to the Quest-list: Ninja Quest by Ghormak [2002-03].
Kikme Quest [2002-12]
Interresting Basket Quest [2002-11]
Annoying Quest [2003-05]

Most used noun in [database and non-database] game titles "Quest": in 146 AGS game titles.

abstauber · Sat 02/10/2010 19:33:48

Quote from: Dualnames on Thu 30/09/2010 17:10:51
Definitely it answers a main question, now the only question remains if Abstauber released the sprite before the game(Lassi Quest).

These are the files Visy released back then, the suomalainen version dates March 11th, 2000.
http://shatten.sonores.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/AllesLassi.zip

But in the end, believe what you want - you lived 9 years with the myth, why stopping just now

Al_Ninio · Sat 02/10/2010 20:45:29

Yet another correction to that list: "Osher Bli Gvulot" is not the first Hebrew AGS game.
"Who sent me to Avadon" predates it by about two years.

AGA · Mon 04/10/2010 18:32:12

I can say for sure that Gorthor of the Cave People was the first game released that used the Windows editor.

arj0n · Mon 04/10/2010 20:26:07

Quote from: AGA on Mon 04/10/2010 18:32:12
I can say for sure that Gorthor of the Cave People was the first game released that used the Windows editor.

Nice fact! Added to the list:)

Jared · Tue 05/10/2010 03:00:25

Lol, this thread has turned into an AGS version of QI...

STEPHEN FRY: Now, what was the very first AGS game released?
ALAN DAVIES: Lassi Quest.
STEPHEN FRY: Oooooohhhhh!

*BRUUUM, BRUUUUUUM!*

(Sorry, extremely Anglo reference..)

Snake · Tue 05/10/2010 04:08:14

I think that a cool AGS fact could be all the members of the forum that have some variation of "Chasing the Dream" under their avatar.