Topic: Elless L3 (new trailer)

[Timosity]

No worries Vel, thanks again.


Also If anyone else wants to beta test, you are still welcome.

[SSH]

Oh, and how do you leave the Boss screen? Nothing I have tried works...

In places you can get stuck behind a walkbehind (in the casino at the show enterance haeding back to mirror balcony, for example): not good

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What I mean is, when clicking to go to next room, if you click on pixel 2 or 3 on the black column on the left, Larry goes entirely behind the column and cannot be seen: some might think the game has hung: it's kinda an extension of the exits problem.

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There's something wierd happens to Larry's sprite as he enters Fat City, too

I have no idea about this one, can you describe what happens, I've tried it 100's of times and never seen anything wierd, as far as I can see, he walks in and is facing straight ahead.

Anyone else noticed anything wierd?

It was a brief sprite sizing thing

Tawni says "is it a ahopping mall"

Also, having to walk around the other side of Tawni is a bit of not-good-gameplay

I assume that the quiz is not supposed to happen at the start...

[Timosity]

Oh, and how do you leave the Boss screen? Nothing I have tried works...

You close it the same way you would close a normal windows window, the 'x' in the top right corner.

It was a brief sprite sizing thing

Tawni says "is it a ahopping mall"

I'll have a look and see if I can see what you mean.

Also, having to walk around the other side of Tawni is a bit of not-good-gameplay

ok, I'll have it so he automatically walks around to talk to her, I think I'll do that for the maitre 'd aswell, it will also make it more consistant with the other characters.

I assume that the quiz is not supposed to happen at the start...

Yeah, I got rid of the quiz, if you click under 12 it quits straight away without any warning, the other ages I figure are ok seeing as I was about that age when it came out, and I played it then (although I didn't let my parents know) Although kids are smart enough to pretent to be older.

The questions in the original are a bit stupid as it is still hard to pass, cause they are now dated, plus they are usually things only American's would know. but it was easy enough to skip in the original with Ctrl-Alt-X, I knew that before I even got the game.



I have also uploaded beta 0.3

*added character control with keyboard - helps in locker room, and also with walking off screen edges in windowed mode

I think this was the best solution for this as it is important that larry walks to the edge of the screen before going to the next room, not suddenly vanishing when behind a tree and appearing halfway across a new room, as for the thing behind the column, it is the same in the original, I don't think it's a real issue.

Thanks SSH, I'll get those things fixed up. you probably won't need to get the updated version unless you feel like it.


EDIT: I've uploaded beta 0.4


updates since 0.3

*when talking/looking at tawni you had to stand near her - now he walks there automatically
*when talking to the maitre 'd you had to stand near him - now he walks there automatically
*fixed character walkbehind for dch love scene - which I had created during 0.2 fix
*extra text in Larry's dancing scene which I had left out accidently
*when using key in elevator you now only get a message the first time

I'll stop uploading stuff for a while, I think this version is pretty decent, and I'm still not sure about some of your findings SSH, but I think I've fixed or worked around most of your queries.

Unless something major is found in the next little while, I might continue with the rest of it.

And If anyone else still wants to test, you are more than welcome.

~Tim

[Lucky]

Argh! I've been really busy lately, and therefore haven't had much time for testing. X.X Sorry about that.

Anyway, I'll try to PM a list of all the bugs I've found later today.

[Alex Lowes]

I can beta test also.
I am very critical(not to harsh)so I look into many deatail to

[Timosity]

just a bug update:

*rare error when interacting with locker that exits game with message - fixed
*top menu gui was still accessable after pressing F5, F7, Ctrl-Q, also after clicking the 'save' or 'restore' in the control panel, and in locker room when you enter the combination - fixed
*at lookout, spelling 'vilagers' when looking at railing - corrected 'villagers'
*at cabana, when looking at sink after taking the soap, it still mentioned the soap - fixed
*when entering Fat City, Larry is walking in the air - fixed
*swapped a message around when looking at the DCH building
*In native costume & Cherri's outfit, when walking in water at beach, he goes a bit far in before turning back - fixed
*If you sunbake for too long and get the fake death message, after you click 'OK' Larry's towel dissappears from under him - fixed
*the river in the TV room is a bit dodgey - but now fixed (note: the water is supposed to lap over the rocks but not as much as it did)
*Tawni says "is it a ahopping mall"- I thought she liked it up the ..... - fixed

update 20-10-03

*fixed quite a few spelling and grammatical errors
*while using gym equipment, if you used the arrow keys, larry changed to different views including the tanning booth lid - fixed
*while typing in locker combination larry can change directions - fixed
*Also found more bugs regarding arrow keys:
-can still walk with arrow keys sitting in DCH office - fixed
-can still walk with arrow keys sitting in park with TV - fixed
-can still walk with arrow keys sitting in comedy hut - fixed
-piano bar was ok cause when sitting he's not on walkable area


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I haven't uploaded a new beta.

I also thought I'd mention, and I haven't had any complaints about a few little things that didn't come with instruction, but I thought would be obvious and if not obvious they are just part of figuring it out:

1. the magazine in the newspaper - fits in quite subtley
2. when you open the locker, its contents just appear in your inventory - It seems fairly obvious to me, and if not obvious everyone has worked it out so far.
3. using the gym equipment, clicking the larger picture of Larry above to operate - fairly obvious since I only give you the interaction cursor
4. other stuff like clicking objects on yourself eg. the grass to make the grass skirt - fairly normal stuff.

I'll probably make a few things clear in the manual (when I make one), but some of these things are all part of the fun in working it out.

There's probably more spelling errors, but I'm sure it would be hard to even find all the possible messages without playing many times in different orders.

Also note that most of the time when a word ends with 'IZE', I've changed it to 'ISE', both are correct depending on which country you are from, and I prefer 'ISE'

I think it's almost bug free now, well I hope so anyway.

[Privateer Puddin']

eek sorry about this - i havent had much time to play yet - something i did notice (sorry if its been mentioned) in the intro, when the houses appear on the mountains in the background - they go on top of what looks to be trees?

[Timosity]

eek sorry about this - i havent had much time to play yet - something i did notice (sorry if its been mentioned) in the intro, when the houses appear on the mountains in the background - they go on top of what looks to be trees?

yeah that is true, but I checked with the original, and it was the same there, so i figured if it's ok for Sierra, it's ok for me,

thanks anyway, and don't worry, I know everyone has their own work plus lives outside AGS, I know I do. If you find anything else just post it, no pressure

[BerserkerTails]

Timosity, if you STILL need beta testers, I'd be happy to test the game for you. It sounds like a high quality product from what I've read.

[Timosity]

Edited 23-10-03
OK, I've released beta 0.5a which is hopefully the final version without bugs, but who knows.

It is available from the same link

The update list is available in the readme file, and also about 4 posts up.

edit: also fixed 2 minor things
*inventory item orchids 'some Orchids' - corrected 'Some Orchids'
*centred items in inventory better

Let me know if you download it, and if you've had enough, let me know aswell.

I've also done a few unnoticeable touchups, and added custom icons for fun.
I've also added some transparancy to the Control panel, Save, Load, Restart & Quit Guis.

Thanks for all the help so far, it's been great

~Tim

[Elianto]

I know that I'm new here but I hope I can help you in betatesting your game!

Elianto

[Timosity]

I have finished doing beta testing and have resumed working on new parts of the game.

Larry's quest is now totally completed including unhandled events and The Comedy Hut

*completed Comedy Hut, and added some sample jokes and you can talk to Al & Bill

plus some major things that were missed:

*lots more spelling and grammatical errors - fixed
*could use towel on beach when in drag which caused you to be in wrong view - fixed
*could still use arrow keys when sunbaking - fixed
*could make lei when backstage while in shadows which caused you to be in wrong view - fixed

So if you want the bug free (as far as I know) version, it's available from the same place, Also you can check out the comedy hut.

A very special thanks to Alan Danzis for his top beta testing and grammar checking.

~Tim

[adanzis]

Tim's too kind...

but if anybody else needs some beta-testing done, please e-mail me up at adanzis@loyola.edu.  I'm a writer by trade, so i'm mostly good at finding all those grammar mistakes, but if you need basic error-testing as well, just let me know.

I'm hoping eventually to get on a game-making project with someone.  I can write a script for a game, and i could probably even script part of it in AGS, but i can't draw for the life of me (unless you count stick figures).  But for right now, i'm available for any beta-testing.

- Alan

[Depthlord]

i can beta test if you want, mail me at depthlord_jordi@yahoo.es

[Timosity]

I'm well into the next stage of this at the moment, I'll be needing more beta testers when I've completed it, which will probably be sometime early this year, a couple of months or so, so if you are still interested when the time comes you can beta test.

[Timosity]

I've updated the main post

I've made a video trailer:
1 min 47 secs
DivX 5.1.1 codec required to view it: http://www.divx.com/divx/
(be careful though, you don't want the GAINbundle version it contains spyware, you can still download the codecs free with no spyware, you want DivX, not DivX pro [unless you are prepared to buy it])

There's a 320 by 240 version of the trailer (1.5MB)
And a 640 by 480 version (2.2MB)

I can't hotlink so you can get it here:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/timosity/trailer.html

(note: there's adult themes and situations in the trailer, so sorry kids, you're gonna have to wait till your parents go to bed. It probably also has a few spoilers)

[ScottDoom]

That looks awesome!

When will this be finished?

[evilspacefart]

nice! can't wait for it! finish this ok!

[Timosity]

Thanks guys,

it will be finished when it's complete, which is not too far off, probably a few months or so, depends on my spare time and other commitments, but I can see the finish line.

[Darth Mandarb]

This looks great!  I look forward to it!

(was the trailer supposed to fly through like that or was there something wrong with my player?  I didn't have time to read anything!)

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