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Nikolas · « **on:** 08 Dec 2005, 22:27 »

Has anyone started this game?

Amazing and weird...

I need a hint! desperately!

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Radiant? Rui?

Fertfreak · « **Reply #1 on:** 09 Dec 2005, 13:26 »

I need help getting into the cave.

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Nikolas · « **Reply #2 on:** 09 Dec 2005, 13:42 »

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futonrevolution · « **Reply #3 on:** 09 Dec 2005, 23:24 »

Quote from: Nikolas on 08 Dec 2005, 22:27

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I have entered the cave, but don't know what to do with the chasms... Any ideas?

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I'm currently bashing my head on the next step...

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-Daniel

Wretched · « **Reply #4 on:** 09 Dec 2005, 23:33 »

futonrevolution,
Neat solution, might be a bug as there is another much more complicated way to do it...

futonrevolution · « **Reply #5 on:** 09 Dec 2005, 23:44 »

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futonrevolution,
Neat solution, might be a bug as there is another much more complicated way to do it...

Darn. That might be why I keep crashing the game in new and spectacular ways. (The last time was by turning on the sound effect for scoring points.)

Radiant · « **Reply #6 on:** 10 Dec 2005, 01:45 »

Quote from: Wretched on 09 Dec 2005, 23:33

futonrevolution,
Neat solution, might be a bug as there is another much more complicated way to do it...

Well, actually, yes

I think you'll find that your method doesn't actually work.

Quote from: futonrevolution on 09 Dec 2005, 23:44

Darn. That might be why I keep crashing the game in new and spectacular ways. (The last time was by turning on the sound effect for scoring points.)

It keeps crashing? Ouch. Please tell me where and I'll fix it? Thanks!

Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · « **Reply #7 on:** 10 Dec 2005, 09:44 »

What I love best about this is that, even though it's a hints and tips thread, even though the question has been asked, you're discussing the better solution and not telling. :

Wretched · « **Reply #8 on:** 10 Dec 2005, 09:51 »

Well I'm not telling as it would give about 60% of the game away. Seems to high an amount for a hints tip.

Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · « **Reply #9 on:** 10 Dec 2005, 11:05 »

Be subtle then.

Nudge in the right direction. Tell me, should I be thinking in terms of what? Debug, characters, outside the box...

Wretched · « **Reply #10 on:** 10 Dec 2005, 11:13 »

Rui,

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Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · « **Reply #11 on:** 10 Dec 2005, 11:14 »

Right. I was thinking something along the lines of that, curiously enough, but I'd just assumed BHT was that bad.

Thanks muchly.

Gilbert · « **Reply #12 on:** 12 Dec 2005, 09:26 »

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mozza · « **Reply #13 on:** 12 Dec 2005, 10:09 »

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Radiant · « **Reply #14 on:** 12 Dec 2005, 10:21 »

Quote from: Gilbot V7000a on 12 Dec 2005, 09:26

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Got thru both chasms, but still can't open the door. Any hints?

You'll need

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Quote from: mozza on 12 Dec 2005, 10:09

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I'm going really crappily. I'm in the room with the chasms and am stuck. What to do now? I don't know how to ix the button or whatever Wretched was talking about. I have noticed that the "New Object" button is broken, is that the one?

Yes.

Gilbert · « **Reply #15 on:** 12 Dec 2005, 10:27 »

Quote from: Radiant on 12 Dec 2005, 10:21

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a key. There's one in an obvious place.

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Phemar · « **Reply #16 on:** 12 Dec 2005, 10:49 »

I'm in the same place as Gilbot.

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jane · « **Reply #17 on:** 12 Dec 2005, 11:22 »

I'm in cave and can touch door but am absolutely lost at what to do next.............when I try to change inventory nothing happens, button drops off as well - I put it back but what else should I be doing?

Fizzii · « **Reply #18 on:** 12 Dec 2005, 11:31 »

Quote from: jane on 12 Dec 2005, 11:22

I'm in cave and can touch door but am absolutely lost at what to do next.............when I try to change inventory nothing happens, button drops off as well - I put it back but what else should I be doing?

Have you fixed the button so that you can use it?

I've figured out how to cross one chasm, but not sure how to get across the other... I guess I'll muck around with this brilliant BHT editor a bit moreÂ

Gilbert · « **Reply #19 on:** 12 Dec 2005, 11:33 »

Quote from: Fizzii on 12 Dec 2005, 11:31

I've figured out how to cross one chasm, but not sure how to get across the other... I guess I'll muck around with this brilliant BHT editor a bit moreÂ

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jane · « **Reply #20 on:** 12 Dec 2005, 14:34 »

I guess I need to fix the button permanently - anyone give us a clue on this please?

Phemar · « **Reply #21 on:** 12 Dec 2005, 14:46 »

Jane:

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Direct Giveaway

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Radiant · « **Reply #22 on:** 12 Dec 2005, 16:43 »

Quote from: Zor on 12 Dec 2005, 10:49

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I figure I have to somehow correct the images for the inventory items? Or is it something to do with the yellow circle?

Nah. Both you and Gilbert are thinking way too complexly*.

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jane · « **Reply #23 on:** 13 Dec 2005, 14:42 »

Aarghhhhhh am absolutely stumped again! Have made it to the door, have put a key on the floor - not sure if this is right - but if this is the right thing to do - I can't fathom out how to pick it up. Guess I need a course in how to construct a game - 'cos I don't really know much on the techy side of things. $:-\$

Kweepa · « **Reply #24 on:** 14 Dec 2005, 06:58 »

Wow I suck.
I can't get past the first conversation with Cuppit.

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Gilbert · « **Reply #25 on:** 14 Dec 2005, 07:12 »

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Anyway I'm still stuck in teh same location:

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Phemar · « **Reply #26 on:** 14 Dec 2005, 10:07 »

Steve:

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jane · « **Reply #27 on:** 14 Dec 2005, 10:10 »

Quote from: jane on 13 Dec 2005, 14:42

Aarghhhhhh am absolutely stumped again! Have made it to the door, have put a key on the floor - not sure if this is right - but if this is the right thing to do - I can't fathom out how to pick it up. Guess I need a course in how to construct a game - 'cos I don't really know much on the techy side of things. $:-\$

Can someone please give me a hint to save my sanity

Radiant · « **Reply #28 on:** 14 Dec 2005, 11:10 »

Quote from: Gilbot V7000a on 14 Dec 2005, 07:12

Anyway I'm still stuck in teh same location:
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Still can't find a way to open the door in the secodn test, I thought of extinguishing the fire (in the editor or Awesoem Quest) and then use give inventory debug function, but that didn't seem to work either.

Yes, that would be the way to do it.

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Aarghhhhhh am absolutely stumped again! Have made it to the door, have put a key on the floor - not sure if this is right - but if this is the right thing to do - I can't fathom out how to pick it up.

You're on the wrong track. See Gilbert's remark.

Abisso · « **Reply #29 on:** 14 Dec 2005, 14:54 »

I've got the same problem as Gilbot. Time to reveal the solution, don't you think?

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jane · « **Reply #30 on:** 14 Dec 2005, 20:49 »

I think I will have to give up with this - unless someone really is kind and gives me some help - I am in cave, have crossed two chasms but am really stumped at what to do next. $:-\$

Radiant · « **Reply #31 on:** 15 Dec 2005, 08:24 »

Okay, okay.

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jane · « **Reply #32 on:** 15 Dec 2005, 08:50 »

I'm sure I can't be the only one who is absolutely lost with this game. I know nothing about the techy workings so 'Since you can't pick up a key anywhere, you have to use the "stuff pockets" debug function'..........what the heck does that mean? Its probably sooo simple but I must be totally thick

I have tried clicking debug in general settings but it doesn't make any difference. I've tried extinguishing the fire but when I go to test game the fire is still there in the first scene ? How do you change settings to carry something?

Gilbert · « **Reply #33 on:** 15 Dec 2005, 08:56 »

Ah clever.

Jane:

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I know it's frustrating, that this game was aimed mainly for people who had been playing around with the AGS editor.

Fertfreak · « **Reply #34 on:** 16 Dec 2005, 17:30 »

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Gilbert · « **Reply #35 on:** 18 Dec 2005, 05:28 »

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Abisso · « **Reply #36 on:** 20 Dec 2005, 11:40 »

Okay, believe it or not but I solved the problem of fire by myself (but Gilbot's intuition has done the most for it).

Now I'm stuck at:

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Radiant · « **Reply #37 on:** 20 Dec 2005, 11:46 »

You actually tried all those answers? Oh, I feel so mean now.

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Gilbert · « **Reply #38 on:** 20 Dec 2005, 11:54 »

Actually:

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Abisso · « **Reply #39 on:** 20 Dec 2005, 12:26 »

Here's my tip for you, Gilbot:

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Gilbert · « **Reply #40 on:** 20 Dec 2005, 12:40 »

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Abisso · « **Reply #41 on:** 20 Dec 2005, 12:52 »

Done! I was very near the ending, but that question!

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This is absolutely the most original and one of the most entertaing adventures ever! The puzzles require some experience with AGS, but this is also a good tutorial on how to create adventures.

Rally Awesmoe!

Radiant · « **Reply #42 on:** 20 Dec 2005, 15:57 »

Quote from: Gilbot V7000a on 20 Dec 2005, 12:40

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1. The exact reading can differ by +- 1Kb when you check it using different version of OS and/or commands.

<grin> I believe I've got all of them covered. Some variants are acceptable, e.g. kibis.

Fertfreak · « **Reply #43 on:** 20 Dec 2005, 19:20 »

If you (like me :

) need help with the second meta-question, google "bytes to kilobytes" and you should find an accurate calculator or two to help with that question.

Radiant · « **Reply #44 on:** 20 Dec 2005, 22:27 »

Quote from: Fertfreak on 20 Dec 2005, 19:20

If you (like me :) need help with the second meta-question, google "bytes to kilobytes" and you should find an accurate calculator or two to help with that question.

Er, divide by 1024? (or 1000, if you must) Your computer does have a desktop calculator, no? If not, a long division should take you all of five seconds.

lakerz · « **Reply #45 on:** 02 Jan 2006, 06:26 »

I've played some rather obtuse and difficult games in my day, but this one may be the winnar!

For some reason, I'll make progress, do something in the editor, mess things up, and then when I try to load a game it says there isn't any to load.

That's not cool.

Anyways, I've read through this thread a few times and am still very very confused.

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Gilbert · « **Reply #46 on:** 03 Jan 2006, 01:25 »

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lakerz · « **Reply #47 on:** 09 Jan 2006, 01:44 »

Thanks for the help! I think I'm going to put this game aside for now as it's apparent that I need more experience with the AGS editor to really comprehend the puzzles.

Mordalles · « **Reply #48 on:** 20 Apr 2006, 20:43 »

is this a bug or am i doing something wrong?

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Colxfile · « **Reply #49 on:** 21 Apr 2006, 09:40 »

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Mordalles · « **Reply #50 on:** 21 Apr 2006, 20:37 »

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I think you need to be standing right next to the door when you use the key on the door.

i am standing right next to the door. when i'm standing away from the door and use the kye on it, he says i should go closer. but close up nothing happens.

Fizzii · « **Reply #51 on:** 22 Apr 2006, 10:33 »

Yes, the key doesn't actually open the door, ~~though you need it.~~

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DuckAndCower · « **Reply #52 on:** 22 Apr 2006, 19:47 »

So... even with all the above hints, I'm still stuck on that second question. I've tried

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with no luck. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Is my opinion of the ideal adventure game not the same as the cup's?

Mordalles · « **Reply #53 on:** 22 Apr 2006, 22:08 »

Quote from: DuckAndCower on 22 Apr 2006, 19:47

So... even with all the above hints, I'm still stuck on that second question. I've tried
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looking at the file size of Meta.exe, which gets me 9310208 bytes), divided that by 1024 (gets 9092 kilobyes)
with no luck. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Is my opinion of the ideal adventure game not the same as the cup's?

i got further, thanks.
duckandcower,

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whats the answer to the 3rd question? i watched the holy grail too long ago.

DuckAndCower · « **Reply #54 on:** 23 Apr 2006, 03:19 »

Sorry, Mord, I'd love to help you, but I'm still stuck on #2. The answer you gave me doesn't seem to work, even when I follow it with the word "kilobytes". Have you tried looking up the script for Holy Grail online?

Mordalles · « **Reply #55 on:** 23 Apr 2006, 21:30 »

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Sorry, Mord, I'd love to help you, but I'm still stuck on #2. The answer you gave me doesn't seem to work, even when I follow it with the word "kilobytes". Have you tried looking up the script for Holy Grail online?

yeah, i did find the script and it says:

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i tried 43 and forty-three. but doesnt work?

#2:

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Radiant · « **Reply #56 on:** 23 Apr 2006, 21:37 »

Quote from: DuckAndCower on 22 Apr 2006, 19:47

So... even with all the above hints, I'm still stuck on that second question. I've tried
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looking at the file size of Meta.exe, which gets me 9310208 bytes), divided that by 1024 (gets 9092 kilobyes)
with no luck. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Is my opinion of the ideal adventure game not the same as the cup's?

That's interesting... it is possible that you have a virus on your computer that attaches itself to executables, thereby increasing their size.
My version is 9308583 bytes, thus the answer would be either 9090 (X/1024) or 9308 (X/1000; both are acceptable).

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yeah, i did find the script and it says: "In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?"

True, but the question is not "how often needs the swallow beat its wings", but "what is its airspeed velocity". Look further on in the script

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Mordalles · « **Reply #57 on:** 23 Apr 2006, 21:43 »

is the answer in this part of the script?

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Radiant · « **Reply #58 on:** 23 Apr 2006, 22:27 »

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is the answer in this part of the script?

No.

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Mordalles · « **Reply #59 on:** 25 Apr 2006, 21:04 »

could somebody just give me the answer. i give up. i feel so dumb. :'(

Radiant · « **Reply #60 on:** 25 Apr 2006, 22:17 »

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could somebody just give me the answer. i give up. i feel so dumb. :'(

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Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · « **Reply #61 on:** 02 Dec 2006, 20:12 »

Ok, it's official, I'm terrible at this.

HOW do I put the fire out? Straight answer, please. All the hints in this thread weren't enough.

Fizzii · « **Reply #62 on:** 02 Dec 2006, 21:03 »

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HOW do I put the fire out? Straight answer, please. All the hints in this thread weren't enough.

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Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · « **Reply #63 on:** 02 Dec 2006, 21:17 »

Huh? But I did try that, time and time again. And I did it just now, and it didn't work. I've gotten cuppit to fix room 3, though if I read you right that wasn't strictly necessary for this puzzle; I've changed the cursor to the FIRE sprite (tried it with cursor WALKTO, INTERACT and USEINV, didn't see the point in trying more, the cursor looked like fire anyway); I've loaded room 3 in the editor; I've clicked on the pool, with the cursor resembling the fire. I've done it in "objects", "areas" and the other, first sub-setting in "Rooms". Nothing happens, nothing at all!

Fizzii · « **Reply #64 on:** 03 Dec 2006, 07:30 »

My bad. I checked, and this works:

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Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · « **Reply #65 on:** 03 Dec 2006, 10:29 »

Aaaaahhhhhh. Sneaky, and deliciously logical. For the life of me I don't think I've managed to solve any of these puzzles, but I truly admire them.

Marion · « **Reply #66 on:** 10 Dec 2006, 11:25 »

Hi !
I have reached the questions asked by the blue cup in the 3rd room.
I found the first one, but I can't pass the 2nd. I tried many answers given in this topic, I tried with the size of the file on my computer, nothing works.
Please help !

Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · « **Reply #67 on:** 10 Dec 2006, 11:48 »

If you're playing the newest version, the numbers in this thread won't help you at all. Try just looking at the properties of your META.EXE file to see the size in bytes and then take the first 4- or 5-digits, and type them in.

Marion · « **Reply #68 on:** 10 Dec 2006, 12:01 »

Thanks, I'll try

Radiant · « **Reply #69 on:** 11 Dec 2006, 00:47 »

This is probably the only AGS game that you can't solve if you have a virus on your computer

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vivifizgig · « **Reply #70 on:** 14 Mar 2007, 23:09 »

Just for posterity, the divide by 1024 calculation, resulting in 9876, didn't work for me, but the divide by 1000, resulting in 10113, did. And apparently not the full quote is needed for the answer to the third. Just three words.

Radiant · « **Reply #71 on:** 15 Mar 2007, 11:05 »

According to my Windows version, it's 9877.

Renodox · « **Reply #72 on:** 17 Nov 2016, 09:49 »

I can't complete the game due to an error. After using the "stuff pockets" debug command, trying to open the inventory causes the game to crash. ACTUALLY crash, not something that's programmed in. I get this:

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An exception 0xC0000005 occurred in ACWIN.EXE at EIP = 0x0044A7AC ; program pointer is +6, ACI version 3.3.0.1162, gtags (2043,64)

AGS cannot continue, this exception was fatal. Please note down the numbers above, remember what you were doing at the time and post the details on the AGS Technical Forum.

Most versions of Windows allow you to press Ctrl+C now to copy this entire message to the clipboard for easy reporting.

Unable to create an error dump file. (code 3)
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OK
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Crimson Wizard · « **Reply #73 on:** 17 Nov 2016, 11:48 »

Quote from: Renodox on 17 Nov 2016, 09:49

I can't complete the game due to an error. After using the "stuff pockets" debug command, trying to open the inventory causes the game to crash. ACTUALLY crash, not something that's programmed in. I get this:

Was the game upgraded to version 3.3.0, or you are using newer engine to run it?
I recall there was a bug which caused old-style built-in inventory to crash, which was fixed in AGS 3.3.2, according to changelog. Try using latest version of the engine to run it.

Radiant · « **Reply #74 on:** 29 Nov 2016, 22:28 »

The bug has been noted, I'll see what I can do. And yes, META runs in 3.3.0.1162

Radiant · « **Reply #75 on:** 08 Dec 2016, 20:43 »

A new version has been released to fix this: https://radiant.itch.io/meta

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