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Empty mind blank fate
« on: 17 Nov 2008, 12:22 »
I am totally stuck, if anyone could give me a hint please as to what do next that would be cool!

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I've got 2 scraps of pictures, one of which I've managed to put on the quadrants in the attic, the other one won't seem to be put onto them. I think I've found all the rooms including the hidden one in the attic and down the pipe, although I haven't got to the left of the giant if that's possible.

The only things I can see that can be done next is the lump in the carpet in one of the rooms, he says he needs a solvent but nothing I have works. Also it seems I need more picture scraps for the quadrants, or maybe I can make the laptop work. I have also copied down the strange signs in the attic but have no idea what to do with it, I got a bunch of other items like matches and cologne and constructed engine I haven't used yet. I can't open the little wooden box. I think I've been in all the rooms unless there are more hard to reach ones. I've really run out of ideas! A little hint please? :)



« Last Edit: 17 Nov 2008, 12:31 by robvalue »

Stefano

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #1 on: 17 Nov 2008, 18:05 »
Hey, robvalue. I went a little bit further than you and got stuck too.

Here's what I did that you didn't yet:
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solvent: you have to mix two things that are already in your invetory! ;)
I did it by accident, so I think it would be nice if there were hints about what to do.
scraps: They'll only stay on their quadrants if you put them in the right order.
There are hints about this one. Look more carefully in your inventory...

And here's what got me stuck:
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if you have payed attention to the conversation you had with the giant, you probably went looking for his lighter in the basement.
Well, I managed to get the lighter and then got the "wallnut paste" (Is that the correct name?) described on the torn book sheet.
My bet is that we must use it to make some ink for the pen. It says we should mix it in water.
problem: (wondering if it's a bug) after adding the water to the bowl in the kitchen, it won't let me add the "walnut paste" in order to create the ink.
Trying to make my first AGS game.

Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #2 on: 17 Nov 2008, 18:59 »
Thanks for your help Stefano, I'll give it a try!

As for where you are stuck, I think I can help as I've made some progress in that area:

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 You need another ingredient to add after the water but before the walnut paste. Again not really very clear, I did this by random trial.

Stefano

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #3 on: 17 Nov 2008, 19:22 »
Oops. :-[
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I think I mixed the names up. The giant gives you Arabic Gum (which is what I currently have) and not Walnut Stain and that's why I couldn't add it to the water. Where did you find it?
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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #4 on: 18 Nov 2008, 09:10 »
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OK I played it through again to see what I did :)

Once you have got the green liquid from the pantry left of the kitchen, you have to look at your recipe sheet again (from the book in the library) and Engel works out it is walnut stain. Then you put the water in the bowl as you have done, then you put in the walnut stain, then the gum arabic that the giant gives you after giving him his lighter, and the recipe is complete!

Maybe I'm playing a different version to you, as you seem to be saying the giant gave you the walnut stuff! If it still doesn't work we'll see if we can figure out what's happened.


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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #5 on: 18 Nov 2008, 09:17 »
I've put all four scraps in place but don't know what to do next. Can you guys help?

Stefano

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #6 on: 18 Nov 2008, 12:57 »
robvalue,
It's like I said. I mixed up the names!
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I did get the Arabic Gum from the giant and not the Walnut stain!


Oh, my. It's worse that we could have anticipated.
The reason I was stuck:
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I didn't see the pantry to the left of the kitchen and thus never found the green liquid! :o

So, thanks for the tip. ;D

maggie,
Not there yet but will post as soon as I have the answer.

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Entered the woods and got soap by the washtub.
Went further to the right and clicked a button that activated something (don't know what, though!).

Inverted the fountain water direction using a switch in the hut. Grabbed the twig!

Main gate: use twig to open the lid of the tank and use soap to react with gas.

And stuck again...

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There's a string hanging on a pole by the washtub. Pretty hard to find. The rest is pretty intuitive! ;D


EDIT3: Finished! Yay!
« Last Edit: 18 Nov 2008, 13:52 by Stefano »
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maggie

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #7 on: 18 Nov 2008, 15:46 »
Stefano
            how did you get to the woods, I;m still going round aimlessly. Have put fragments in place but can't seem to move on from that. Your help would be appreciated

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #8 on: 18 Nov 2008, 17:29 »
Did you see the three buttons on the left?
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Push them in the correct order and push the painting above it...
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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #9 on: 18 Nov 2008, 17:38 »
Ah oh yes, so you said Stefano sorry! My mind is muddled ;) Glad to help.

Stefano

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #10 on: 19 Nov 2008, 02:04 »
Stefano
            how did you get to the woods, I;m still going round aimlessly. Have put fragments in place but can't seem to move on from that. Your help would be appreciated

I'm sorry maggie! I assumed that you were already...
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...outside the house. That's what happened to me anyway, after I placed all fragments in their corresponding quadrants.

problem:You may have exploited a bug I've already reported without knowing it: if you take the fragment from the portrait twice, you'll still be able to place the replica in the next quadrant as if it was a unique one!!!
solution: In this case, you'll probably have to restart/load the game, since the last fragment must be obtained from the guy behind the portal (that can be opened by following what Leon said)


robvalue,
No problem! I hope you managed to finish the game too.  ;)
Trying to make my first AGS game.

my dog

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #11 on: 19 Nov 2008, 15:05 »
Im stuck trying to find water to make the mixture i have all the other ingredients help anyone thanks

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #12 on: 19 Nov 2008, 15:20 »
There's some water in the kitchen.

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You can find water in the teapot. But you need something to pour it in.
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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #13 on: 20 Nov 2008, 06:36 »
thanks for reply i thought it was the tea pot but ive tried all sorts to get it but cant can u give a little push please thanks

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #14 on: 20 Nov 2008, 09:12 »
To take the water you should:
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go up the stairs next to the giant. In the room behind the right door on the north wall (second from the right of all doors) you can find a kids PLAYING CUP in the cupboard.
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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #15 on: 20 Nov 2008, 14:10 »
hi im stuck again, ive put all 4 fragments of picture in but dont know what to do now?  I see 3 circles on the wall but I cant do anything with them help me please thanks

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #16 on: 20 Nov 2008, 15:15 »
You can push them. You don't see it but listen...
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Push them in the correct order, followed by the painting above it.
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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #17 on: 20 Nov 2008, 17:17 »
the computer tells me to use capitals on the first letter of the name,i did and it keeps telling me that,never did get the ending,help please,thanks

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #18 on: 20 Nov 2008, 17:24 »
The name is:                               
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Engel
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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #19 on: 20 Nov 2008, 19:39 »
thats what i wrote with a capital E and it keeps saying the same thing.thanks

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« Reply #20 on: 20 Nov 2008, 19:54 »
so sorry,i was writeing  engeal,much thanks it worked.wow i feel better now.l

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« Reply #21 on: 20 Nov 2008, 19:58 »
i wrote Engel and it worked,really helped me ,thanks a bunch

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #22 on: 21 Nov 2008, 09:51 »
Hi i put the sound on pushing the buttons but can only hear the music can you tell me the correct ones to press before i push the painting thanks

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #23 on: 21 Nov 2008, 11:02 »
The correct sequence:
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middle, right, left
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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #24 on: 22 Nov 2008, 07:06 »
Im missing the last bit of the picture how do i get it, ive pressed the wheels and heard a click but the guy through the secret room says im not ready yet im going round in circles again can anyone help me thanks

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #25 on: 22 Nov 2008, 08:53 »
The tiles next to the buttons are not related to the button-puzzle. In fact, the fourth piece is only obtainable after you've solved this one.

I've just played it again, the button puzzle can be solved straight from the start.
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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #26 on: 22 Nov 2008, 16:17 »
hi ive got the 3 pieces but i cant do anything now seems i have to prove i understand the symbols that ive copied but dont know how can you help me what i should do next thanks

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #27 on: 22 Nov 2008, 17:31 »
If you are refering to the drawings:
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you need 4 eventually and they only go into the big picture in a certain order. So try each one in your inventory on the upper left part, then the next on the upper right etc.


To understand the copied symbols:
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You need to use the laptop.
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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #28 on: 23 Nov 2008, 16:33 »
Guys.i didnt find  At the bottom  a toolbox //and wat is  AWL. stand for?
There is some gray box there but its solid fixed to the floor)
Any help/please//
thanks

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #29 on: 23 Nov 2008, 16:58 »
An AWL is a tool used by leatherworkers, such as cobblers (shoemakers), to pierce holes in leather.
The toolbox is on the left near the door that can't be opened. Use the toolbox to take the awl.
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« Reply #30 on: 24 Nov 2008, 08:16 »
thanks Leon/ i replay game-only after this i found it///Now i dont have a BOOK IN ANY PLACE !!!
BAG?
THANKS

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #31 on: 24 Nov 2008, 10:34 »
I'm not sure what you mean here. You can't find the books anymore after a restart? Is that a restart within the game (like F9) or by restarting the application?
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« Reply #32 on: 26 Nov 2008, 14:09 »
i played from begining and there is No book at all.so j gave up//

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #33 on: 26 Nov 2008, 17:11 »
In the library are two books, one red on the floor (recipe book) and one black on the lower left shelf (about the painting)
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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #34 on: 04 Jan 2009, 13:05 »
Please, someone could help me to find the fourth picture

Leon

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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #35 on: 04 Jan 2009, 13:56 »
Have you been able to open the secret room on the second floor?
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Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #36 on: 04 Jan 2009, 21:10 »
Have you been able to open the secret room on the second floor?
Ok! thanks. I talked with the guy.

Re: Empty mind blank fate
« Reply #37 on: 05 Jan 2009, 09:19 »
I am completely stuck!  Wondering it's actually a bug or whether I'm just being an idiot?

I've just gotten the laptop working, and when I click on it, I'm taking to a different screen but there's nothing to do there.  It's just gray with nothing to interact with.  I've tried clicking frantically all over the place with all interaction types but nothing it happening!  I'm told it looks like someone was searching for something, but that's all.

Eventually I resorted to a walkthrough on the net as I was just SO frustrated.. it tells me to click on a green button but there IS no green button!

My theory is that, as a lot of the graphics are being cut off by the icon bar right now (like the giant's head), is the thing I need to click on hidden behind it too?  Is there a button which magically minimizes the icon bar so you can see what's behind it?  I've tried a bunch of random keys but nothing has happened.
Checked the manual too but there was nothing there.

Am I missing something here?  ???
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« Reply #38 on: 18 Nov 2021, 17:23 »
I need help stuck at beginning cant get out of baseement

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« Reply #39 on: 18 Nov 2021, 20:42 »
I need help stuck at beginning cant get out of baseement
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Check your inventory. There are small arrow icons you can use to see more items. I would guess that you haven't discovered that you have a chip of wood.
You need this to escape the first room.