AVAST! didn't find what Malwarebytes did... (frosty pints inside CLICK HERE!)

Started by Snake, Fri 03/12/2010 18:09:33

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Snake

I'm such a newcomer starting two topics in less than 24 hours.

So after starting the thread about Without A Trace last night, I did some searching for any chance to watch this show episode by episode online. I was fortunate to find something called Megavideo. It's got every single episode of the entire series available to watch. So being in the state we our, my wife and I, not being able to get this series through Netflix, we can certainly put up with watching it online with lag, loading, annoying pop-ups and the obvious reduction in audiovisual quality.

After finding the first episode of season 3 a few pop ups came on. Being completely UNLIKE my cautious self (not that it is an excuse, but it was late and there was excitement and beer involved in my decision making) I clicked YES on 3 or so pop-ups asking me to run software or whatever. I blindly thought it had to do strictly with watching the video online, maybe some sort of plug-in required - I didn't even read them! GAH! I NEVER DO THAT!!1!).

After that the show was almost immediately and repeatedly interrupted by pop-ups saying that the computer is infected and asking if I wanted to start my anti-virus software... Ah, eh? It's already on, you stupid assholes! So I immediately knew it was a virus of some sort, have it be malware or spyware. Before the episode is finished we already started getting pop-ups for viagra and PORNO.COM, lol.

Before the video started, however, Avast did detect a malicious site and immediately blocked it from loading up, but it never detected everything else that was happening afterwards (because I chose to install/allow access  beforehand maybe?).

The show ends, the wife goes to bed and I decide to stay up and find a solution. Soon it blocks internet access completely.
After that, or vise-versa, it wouldn't let me open anything on the computer - not even notepad. I noticed this when I went to check the control panel and a pop-up messege alerts me that it has been infected. I was scared to restart thinking that our new computer that isn't even paid off yet is fucked in the chocolate eye. To no avail, after scanning the computer with Avast on both quick and full scans finding nothing, I decide to restart into safe-mode and run Avast in there as well. Again, both quick and full finished with nothing found. I almost shit. This ALWAYS works.

To make it worse, I was certain doing a boot scan would find the little buggers, but Avast is unable to do boot-scanning on computers that are 64-bit! What the hell is this shit??

I went to bed.

This morning I booted up in safe-mode again and opened up msconfig. I deselected anything that was fishy and restarted normally. Success! No pop-ups, every thing is peachy-keen... except I am still not allowed online.

I get an idea! I load up Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on VIRTUALBOX! HAHA! You lose! I win! I have access to the internet you goddamn nerds that have nothing better to do than jerk off and fuck shit up!

I google around looking to see why I can't access the internet and hopefully find somebody who's had the same virus. I do! It didn't hit me until I saw the solution. Every time I tried to access a site it gave me a messege about not being able to access the proxy server and access is denied. What? Proxy? Why didn't it hit me before? I don't use a proxy! I don't even know what the fuck a proxy IS!

So I go into Internet Options in Control Panel and uncheck the proxy balogna. I restart and VOILA!  I've got access.

Okay, since I made a short story long, I'll cut to the chase.

Avast didn't find the problem. I remembered you guys talking about Malwarebytes in a thread recently and I figured I'd give it a shot. I downloaded it, ran a full scan and it finds 21 infected objects. This is where I get the butterflies. I think to myself, yeah right, now I'll click "Remove" and it'll tell me that it's not available unless I buy it. To my surprise, it removed all infected objects and everything is back to normal (or so I am believing).

I have been a firm believer in AVAST! for years now. It is all I trust and it has done wonders for our computers. I suggest it to everybody and have installed it on computers for various people. They say they haven't had a problem since which is great. We have not had any virus' on any of our computers with Avast until last night.

Can somebody explain to me why Avast didn't find or prevent these 21 objects?

Where is your frosty pint, you ask? Here you go:

But I didn't say it was free! BWAHAHAHA!!!
*infects your computer*
*jerks off to pr0n*
Grim: "You're making me want to quit smoking... stop it!;)"
miguel: "I second Grim, stop this nonsense! I love my cigarettes!"

Phemar

Man, your life sucks :)

Yea I've had trouble with viruses before as well, and it ain't pretty :/ In fact I suspect I still have a few on my drive, although Avast promises me othwerwise. Oh well.

Anian

I had McAfee, but then some virus (don't remember what exactly the problem was) came and I used Malware, Bitdef and Spybot to clean up, that did the trick.
I don't want the world, I just want your half

InCreator

Man, you suck.
Torrent technology was invented like 99 years ago and you still ended up on megavideo.

If you're going to watch something for free and there's no way you're going to do it legally, just

1) install Bittorrent
2) go to btjunkie.org or thepiratebay.org (only two you'll EVER need. There's fake torrent sites too, so avoid)
3) search ("direct high speed", etc shit in BTjunkie is fake, so is big green "download" button in tpb). Find real ones
4) pick torrent with most seeds

Atleast there will be no viruses.

LimpingFish

Avira usually alerts me (on those rare occasions) when a page is trying to do something fishy. I always - ALWAYS! - pay attention. Otherwise, with Firefox running No-Script, AdBlock Plus, Better Privacy, and HTTPS Everywhere, I feel fairly secure. For now. Plus, I've never been infected (knock+wood+etc). Not that I know of, anyway.

I am an internet coward, though. Even people mentioning malware makes me uneasy. So I probably don't expose myself to the possibility of infection that often.
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Snake

Quote from: InCreator on Fri 03/12/2010 18:52:27
Man, you suck.
And your avatar rocks. It has been one of my favorites for a long time along side Eggie's. I will check out the torrent thing. I've just never understood it and so avoided it. Thanks for the info :)

Quote from: InCreator on Fri 03/12/2010 18:52:27Torrent technology was invented like 99 years ago and you still ended up on megavideo.
I also have a turntable on which I listen to albums.

Quote from: anian on Fri 03/12/2010 18:43:57
I had McAfee, but then some virus (don't remember what exactly the problem was) came and I used Malware, Bitdef and Spybot to clean up, that did the trick.
I never liked McAfee. I tried Spybot some years ago, before I found Avast, and it never seemed to clean anything up. I ened up thinking it was spyware itself, like 99% of these things are.
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miguel: "I second Grim, stop this nonsense! I love my cigarettes!"

Peder 🚀

Quote from: Snake on Fri 03/12/2010 18:09:33
[...] a few pop ups came on. Being completely UNLIKE my cautious self (not that it is an excuse, but it was late and there was excitement and beer involved in my decision making) I clicked YES on 3 or so pop-ups asking me to run software or whatever[...]

[...]Avast did detect a malicious site and immediately blocked it from loading up, but it never detected everything else that was happening afterwards (because I chose to install/allow access  beforehand maybe?)[...]

This here is exactly your problem.
It most probably does not matter what antivirus program you use, as soon as you click these things you give them access to do whatever they want! They will fuck your antivirus up letting you do scans but manipulating it making it finish WAY quicker than it is supposed to but still looking like it went all the way.

AVAST! is probably just fine though I personally use the cute almost extinct Panda.

But even one of my clients that use Panda had this same type of problem.
They pressed a popup even the one you never pressed (with running an antivirus).
The buggers even used the windows shield icon and created a fake antivirus on his computer!
It completely fucked up his real antivirus and you would for sure not be able to delete this fake antivirus.

I never used Malwarebytes to fix his problem though, but a similar program. (not FREE though..)

blueskirt

5 years ago it was fantastic. 5 years ago Avast was catching nearly everything. It was damn slow, but it was catching everything. Then Kaspersky came and not only it caught everything and the stuff Avast, AVG and co were missing, but it was updated every 4 hours and it was 5 times faster than Avast, even when all the scanning options were turned all the way up to eleven. And my firewall was blocking 100 or so high rated alerts every days.

Those days are gone. I tried them all. I tried avira, avg, Avast, Kaspersky... Nowadays antivirus softwares are either incompetent at finding virus, or super effective but bloat your computer more than any virus wish they could (didn't I told you about Kaspersky that added a minute of loading time to every AGS games I launched?). As for my firewall, ever since I installed it (more than 6 months ago), it blocked nothing, 0 low rated, 0 high rated intrusion attempts. Other than nagging me with pop ups every time I launch an indie game, I'm not even sure if it's working.

I don't know, maybe the internet has really become safer or it's me who's just less stupid and doesn't get infected every weeks or something, but I miss the days when those software really were useful (or when they gave me the impression they were.)

Anian

Yeah, I know what you mean, Avira informs me that it blocked autorun program when I connect my mp3 player in the usb stick...and it seriously has nothing but mp3s on it, or even better it does it when I connect my phone, which also works fine etc.
And they are slow, they chew through RAM like beasts. Not only that but when I had McAfee (which did a fine job except one time, I consider that ok) I used to stop it from running on start up, cause it would stop a billion programs and turn a startup into a 10 minute session.
I don't want the world, I just want your half

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens

cheers for that No-Script plugin, Fish.  I was getting annoying google redirects occasionally even after several full malware and anti-virus sweeps.  This put an end to that click redirect bullshit.

LimpingFish

Quote from: ProgZmax on Sat 04/12/2010 17:37:41
cheers for that No-Script plugin, Fish.

You're welcome. It's probably the most useful security extra for Firefox I've come across; on a par with Adblock Plus, anyway.
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PSN: LFishRoller
XB: TheActualLimpingFish
Spotify: LimpingFish

Guybrush Nosehair

Quote from: Snake on Fri 03/12/2010 18:09:33
I remembered you guys talking about Malwarebytes in a thread recently and I figured I'd give it a shot. I downloaded it, ran a full scan and it finds 21 infected objects.

Glad to be of help  ;D. Malwarebytes has saved me on a number of occasions. I also use AVG Free, which I happen to find great (although from what I understand, people aren't as satisfied with it as they once were). A good firewall (like Zone Alarm's free one) can also do wonders for your computer. Just make sure you have a sufficient amount of RAM if you choose to get one.

By the way, I've heard reports of this happening on MegaVideo before. Sometimes, ads get by them that are full of malicious content. If you can remember which ad it was, consider reporting it.

Calin Leafshade

I'd have just took the free porn and penis enlargement offers..

InCreator

Adblock becomes super useful once you've installed Easylist so it knows what to block.
Noscript... somewhat. Finished using it now, too much blocking. It actually works against itself: If you surf much on new sites, it always blocks useful things too and becomes a hassle to use. If you don't surf much and use same sites.... well, you don't need NoScript then, because there's no new dangers to avoid.

Khris

Quote from: grim107 on Sun 05/12/2010 23:27:56A good firewall (like Zone Alarm's free one) can also do wonders for your computer.
In general, the one in the router is enough. If you aren't behind a router, that's another story.
Zone Alarm's free firewall has been discovered to phone home though; they apologized and allegedly stopped but I wouldn't trust them anymore.

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