Black Sect Remake

Started by Shadow1000, Mon 18/06/2012 14:48:19

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Shadow1000

I'm really enjoying this game. I'm finding that the puzzles are fun and progress in the game moves at the perfect pace.

However, I am stuck:

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I'm in the sect's headquarters. I am stuck in 3 areas:

- I don't know how to read the scroll. I've tried applying it to every heat source and many random guesses to no avail
- I am stuck in the puzzle with the buttons underneath the table with the hanging hams. I see that the buttons have letters but don't know what I'm trying to spell
- The hint is "where the warmth is". I guess that means the kitchen (?) but when I go to the kitchen I don't see anything I can interact with there and get killed when I leave.
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I assume that the solutions to these are related so if I solve one it will help with at least one of the others but I've spent a lot of time trying to guess and no luck. I don't necessarily need a full solution but even a bit of a hint to get me back on track would be appreciated.

SHADOW
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sthomannch

Shadow1000
1: I also tried with fire, but this is the wrong approach
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To read the scroll you need a chemical, but it is probably still out of reach (you didn't find the bedroom yet, did you?) -> First you have to get beyond the door right of the armor. I don't speak of the guard in the room with the table and jug
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2:
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You need another scroll first, or was it the one that you cannot read yet? Try to solve other puzzles first. If you have a scroll with something like "CL..." written on it (5 letters) you got the right one.
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3: warm and cozy. Took me a while to find the right spot
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Did you light the fireplace? If so, examine the curtain and tiles. The second tile from the left in the front row especially.
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If you get stuck somewhere, then perhaps you have to solve other puzzles first.

Shadow1000

Quote from: sthomannch on Mon 18/06/2012 15:00:27
Shadow1000
1: I also tried with fire, but this is the wrong approach
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To read the scroll you need a chemical, but it is probably still out of reach (you didn't find the bedroom yet, did you?) -> First you have to get beyond the door right of the armor. I don't speak of the guard in the room with the table and jug
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2:
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You need another scroll first, or was it the one that you cannot read yet? Try to solve other puzzles first. If you have a scroll with something like "CL..." written on it (5 letters) you got the right one.
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3: warm and cozy. Took me a while to find the right spot
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Did you light the fireplace? If so, examine the curtain and tiles. The second tile from the left in the front row especially.
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If you get stuck somewhere, then perhaps you have to solve other puzzles first.


It sounds like I need to progress just a bit more before solving the first 2 items. Item 3 should be doable (sounds like another pixel hunt :( )

Thanks for the help...will report back when I continue progress

SHADOW

sthomannch

Not a pixel hunt, but to be more specific
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in the room with the fireplace and the two comfortable chairs, light the fireplace, examine everything and have a close look at the floor tiles. In the foreground, first row, second floor tile from the left...
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Shadow1000

Quote from: sthomannch on Mon 18/06/2012 17:09:51
Not a pixel hunt, but to be more specific
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in the room with the fireplace and the two comfortable chairs, light the fireplace, examine everything and have a close look at the floor tiles. In the foreground, first row, second floor tile from the left...
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Yes, found it and continuing...

Stuck again but will keep looking :)

Thanks

Shadow1000

Ok, REALLY close to the end.

I
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put the jug on the hook
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. My problem is
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3 corn rows
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???

SHADOW

HandsFree

Yes, you're almost there. :)
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Go to the basement and open the sack behind the table (and notice it contains corn). Fill the jug with 3 litres of corn.
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Shadow1000

Wow...what an end!

Thanks for all the help! Loved the game.

SHADOW

AndyfromVA

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I'm stuck.

Here's where I currently am.
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I'm at the bottom of the well
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Here's what I have in inventory.
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Missal, chapel key, tablet, page from a missal, sieve, pitchfork, pin, glove, small key, bar
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Here's what I think I need to do now.
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Hit the bell with the bar in accordance with instructions from the missal, but I can't determine what the missal is supposed to tell me.
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Could someone give me some assistance?

HandsFree

What does the hintsystem say? It's helpful for me to know which hints are too obscure so I can make them more explicit where needed.

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The instructions in the missal are not for the bell (in fact you don't need to do anything to the  bell at all).
Instead you need the instructions from the tablet.
THE SKY 2 1 3 8 THE EARTH
Where (in the well) are 8 things you can interact with?
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AndyfromVA

Quote from: HandsFree on Tue 19/06/2012 21:02:38
What does the hintsystem say? It's helpful for me to know which hints are too obscure so I can make them more explicit where needed.

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The instructions in the missal are not for the bell (in fact you don't need to do anything to the  bell at all).
Instead you need the instructions from the tablet.
THE SKY 2 1 3 8 THE EARTH
Where (in the well) are 8 things you can interact with?
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Thanks for the info.  The hint is very vague.  It says only:
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There must be something to do in the well.
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Anian

Quote from: AndyfromVA on Tue 19/06/2012 22:29:41
Thanks for the info.  The hint is very vague.  It says only:
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There must be something to do in the well.
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It's not a solution, it's a hint and it's a pretty direct one. With the additional answer HandsFree provided now, it should be obvious.
I don't want the world, I just want your half

HandsFree

The purpose of that hint was to point you to the problem that has to be solved first, given what you have done already.
So are you still stuck?

mkennedy

So is there only the one ending? Or is there a secret ending as well?

HandsFree

The remake has only one ending. As far as I know that's the same in the original game, but I've never been able to reach 100% there, so who knows... 8-). (I even asked on the Lankhor forum, but they didn't know how to get 100% either)

peter

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Here are a walkthrough from Arjon

http://gamesolves.hostfree.pw/free/b/bsr.htm

Thanks

Flumper

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Completely stuck..
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I'm trying to find the loose tile in the draped room, but no matter how much I pixel hunt/click frantically, I can't find it. And yes, I've lit the fireplace.
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Could someone screenie it for me?

HandsFree

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It's the second tile from the right on the front row, but it will only be active if you read the prisoner's letter.
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azerty

Stuck at pixel hunting
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Where is the gold in the river?
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The walkthrough didn't help. I spend a lot of time on it even after reading it. This kind of pixel hunting always ruins the games.

HandsFree

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You have to use the sieve. If you are anywhere near there will be gold dust in the sieve.
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For a picture
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A. B.

Digging this thread up!
I'm stuck pretty near the beginning. 
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There's two directions available, north and east (and the tavern).  East leads to a hanged dwarf and a fox.  Can't get any further, can't seem to interact with the locked door, can't get any of the other items (rope, dwarf, fox) to do anything.  North leads eventually to a pass guarded by a farmer who won't let me past unless given a ring.  Dogged pixel-hunting of all the areas I can get to has not revealed a ring.  I have a bar, a coin and a cake of soap.  The hint just says to get the spellbook.  There's a couple of dots at the "bridge of silence" scene that look as if they might be something, but if so I can't click on them because the "to the village" arrow kicks in before you get there.
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Anyone know what to do next?

A. B.

And wouldn't you know, almost as soon as I'd posted that, I found another possible route to take from the bridge, which I'd already searched in detail several times and not discovered that arrow.  Getting on quite fast (well, I'm stuck again now - is the tramp supposed to be gone when you get back with the bread? - but maybe I'll get it).

HandsFree

Yes.
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The tramp will return later.
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I believe the hint button will give a more specific clue once you got past the farmer, depending on what you've done so far.

A. B.

Thanks!

Flummoxed again.  I've got quite a lot further, but
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I don't know how to get into the chapel.  The hint says "Dead bodies are worth examining too", but neither the hanged dwarf, the skull, or even the tombstones are turning up anything.  Neither is anything else that I've tried.
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HandsFree

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The hint refers to the dwarf. You should cut him loose. Do you have a (sharp) knife?
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If the knife is blunt the farmer can help.
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This has no relation to the chapel though. That will be available a bit later.

A. B.

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The knife is blunt and the farmer left before I got the knife (it was in the tunnel that you can't reach until he's left) and is not in any of the areas I know about.  In the "barren lands" area, is it meant to be possible to cross the river at the tree trunk?
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HandsFree

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I believe you have to use the knife on the rope to establish that it is blunt.
If you also have received the pin from the washer, the farmer should be back at the northern passage (maybe exit and enter again if he's not there).

You can not cross the river at the barren lands.
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A. B.

Thanks.  Well, I thought I'd already done that, but maybe the flag got lost while re-loading or something, because
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after trying the knife on the rope (I'd already got the pin), the farmer is back.  But he won't sharpen the knife unless he gets "a piece of gold".  I've tried offering him the knife and I've tried offering him the coin, and I've even tried offering him the pin, but for both the pin and the coin he just says "You'd better keep that".  Is there a bug, or do I need a different coin for that?  Or maybe it doesn't recognise the two different coins as the same?  There are at least two.  This is the one from the chapel.
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A. B.

Never mind, I worked it out!  :-)

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