Game of Thrones (and the gratuitous nudity therein), split from Oblivion thread

Started by selmiak, Tue 14/05/2013 06:43:36

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selmiak

Quote from: wisnoskij on Tue 14/05/2013 03:58:30
Or maybe we could have a TV series.
you mean like game of thrones? Or do you mean with less boobies?

Anian

Quote from: selmiak on Tue 14/05/2013 06:43:36you mean like game of thrones? Or do you mean with less boobies?
I never thought I'd be angry at boobies, but last episode of GoT was a such a freaking filler, friend of mine missed it and when I tried to remember what he might have missed, I realized the whole freaking episode had actually no character or story progress (except maybe 1 thing, but even that would be clear without explanation). Just a couple of sex scenes at random with completely no effect on anything and it's not the first time in this season either.

Btw Elder scrolls in a movie would be rather lame imo, most of the appeal is in the expansive mythology, atmosphere and the fact that it's happening to you, but if you put that in a movie you'd be a passive viewer of only 1 story. You can read very cool short stories, ride a dragon, fight the Daedra, explore the deep forgotten dungeons of the dwarf civilization and assassinate the king...you can't really put several days of playing content into a 2h movie or even into a series...well you might, but it just would feel like a rip off of something.
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wisnoskij

All TV shows have loads of boobies now, so I guess it would have to have lots as well.

Andail

I agree the last episode - and the one before that too, I would say - haven't been that eventful, and yes, lots of filler nudity. But I seem to recall that in both previous seasons, somewhere around episode 7 or 8 the pace slows down a lot and the plot becomes basically about transporting people from A to B.

I usually don't mind the sexual content of GoT, but I think it has to be done with some tact lest it appears cheap. If there's nudity because they choose to depict people having sex, which people have, then I don't really mind. But if it comes to the point where they just take a couple of young girls and let them strip for no apparent reason, I as a viewer will start to feel uncomfortable. It's at times like that I'm glad I haven't managed to persuade my girlfriend to watch it with me - I simply would have no good answer if she'd ask me the purpose of it all.

Apart from that issue, I still enjoy GoT, although I must say the last two episodes in season 1 remain the strongest parts for me.

Crimson Wizard

I've commenced reading the book after watching these series, and to my surprise it has much much fewer episodes mentioning nudity than the movie :).

Even before that I couldn't stop thinking that they put the nude scenes there simply because they could. Looks like some kind of daring act to me, as if producers wanted to prove they are brave enough to show, umm, content on TV.

But I know little about situation on TV around the world, maybe it is common nowadays?

Anian

Quote from: Andail on Fri 17/05/2013 13:55:35I usually don't mind the sexual content of GoT, but I think it has to be done with some tact lest it appears cheap. If there's nudity because they choose to depict people having sex, which people have, then I don't really mind. But if it comes to the point where they just take a couple of young girls and let them strip for no apparent reason, I as a viewer will start to feel uncomfortable.
Exactly, there's line where it's a show for adults and there are scenes that then don't need to be censored, but when you cross that line, then you're just insulting my intelligence and kind of indicating that you don't know why I am watching your show. And yes, sex sells, but this series should have a wider audience than porn addicts.

Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Fri 17/05/2013 14:19:37
I've commenced reading the book after watching these series, and to my surprise it has much much fewer episodes mentioning nudity than the movie :).
Actually Martin is much more interested in depicting food than sex scenes in the books.
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Monsieur OUXX

It's funny because my dad watched that episode, didn't say a word during the whole episode, except ONE word during the scene with the two girls: "gratuitous!".
The title of this thread proves he wasn't the only one to experience that feeling :)
 

Snarky


Andail

Yes Snarky, you just have to look hard enough! And use your imagination.

Mati256

Apparently Spartacus has a lot of gratuitous nudity. If you want medieval-ish combat and no nudity, then Vikings would be a great choice.
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Gamescluby

Boobies everywhere
I'm boring about tv series now
Boobies for rating

Jaffles

I've only read the books, but have been chastized for liking the series on multiple occasions. "You like GoT? You perv! That show is like a porno!" I'd hate for that to be the defining feature of such a great story, but I haven't seen the show so I can't really judge.

Love the books though!
   

Crimson Wizard

Quote from: Jaffles on Sat 18/05/2013 04:18:57
"You like GoT? You perv! That show is like a porno!"

...did anyone mention murder and mutilation? I so like how people find nudity offensive and happily watch how characters slay and torture each other.

Anian

Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Sat 18/05/2013 13:56:55...did anyone mention murder and mutilation? I so like how people find nudity offensive and happily watch how characters slay and torture each other.
But that's just it, there was basically no violence in the last few episodes, maybe a short scene or two, but definitely not that much.
I'm not all that for violence either, it can take away from the story as much as the nudity/sexual scenes can. Great example might be Spartacus series which I find basically unwatchable.
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Crimson Wizard

Quote from: Anian on Sat 18/05/2013 15:17:09
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Sat 18/05/2013 13:56:55...did anyone mention murder and mutilation? I so like how people find nudity offensive and happily watch how characters slay and torture each other.
But that's just it, there was basically no violence in the last few episodes, maybe a short scene or two, but definitely not that much.
I'm not all that for violence either, it can take away from the story as much as the nudity/sexual scenes can. Great example might be Spartacus series which I find basically unwatchable.
Oh, well, sorry, I did not mean GoT in particular, that was just a ... generic statement. :)

But the scene of flaying a pink finger was enough for me, haha (maybe I have vivid imagination).

Snarky

Quote from: Anian on Sat 18/05/2013 15:17:09
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Sat 18/05/2013 13:56:55...did anyone mention murder and mutilation? I so like how people find nudity offensive and happily watch how characters slay and torture each other.
But that's just it, there was basically no violence in the last few episodes, maybe a short scene or two, but definitely not that much.

Actually, I don't remember the episode before last ("Climbing the Wall," I think it was called) having any nudity, but it did have:

Spoiler
... A bunch of Wildlings falling to their death, Theon's finger being stripped to the bone and cut off, and Ros's dead body after she was tortured and murdered by Joffrey.
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This last one had the two naked girls, obviously, but that was just leading up to:

Spoiler
... Chopping of more of Theon's body parts; and then later there was the bear.
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So maybe there's some selective memory going on?

Crimson Wizard

Quote from: Snarky on Sat 18/05/2013 17:12:25
Actually, I don't remember the episode before last ("Climbing the Wall," I think it was called) having any nudity, but it did have:
There were prostitutes hired by Tyrion to repay his steward the service. That was one of the first episodes, don't remember which one.

Quote from: Snarky on Sat 18/05/2013 17:12:25
This last one had the two naked girls, obviously, but that was just leading up to:
BTW, unlike some other similar moments, this one serve the purpose, IMHO, to provide more contrast to what has followed.

waheela

This thread popping up now is so eerie. I was having a really in-depth conversation with a friend about this last night while we started re-watching the series (she was seeing it for the first time more or less). What actually surprises me is how much they've reduced the nudity since the first season. There have been at least 2-3 episodes in the third season where there's been no nudity at all, and besides the whole thing with the two women getting naked, and Robb boning his lady, I can't really think of anything off the top of my head that's been too gratuitous. I'm actually really enjoying the third season a lot more than the other seasons so far.

Igor Hardy

Quote from: waheela on Sat 18/05/2013 18:26:24
I can't really think of anything off the top of my head that's been too gratuitous.

The poses Pod's prostitutes did to the camera were the very definition of gratuitous.

waheela

Quote from: Ascovel on Sat 18/05/2013 18:45:00
Quote from: waheela on Sat 18/05/2013 18:26:24
I can't really think of anything off the top of my head that's been too gratuitous.

The poses Pod's prostitutes did to the camera were the very definition of gratuitous.

That didn't spring to mind, but now that you bring it up, I wouldn't disagree with you.

I'm not here to argue that Game of Thrones doesn't have gratuitous nudity. It's the number one thing I do not like about the show, and almost turned me away from watching it in the beginning. I don't have an issue with tasteful nudity, or nudity when it's in the show for a reason. I do have an issue though when the nudity (as a lot of it is in GoT) is degrading and unnecessary. All I wanted to say is that going back to the beginning of the series after at least a year, it was shocking to me how much more nudity there was in the first season.

A couple days ago, I had this conversation with someone else who is currently reading the books. He was actually surprised at how the books were more gratuitous than the show in a lot of ways. One of the examples he gave me was an army raiding a town and a soldier raping a girl on top of a pile of dead bodies. I know the show probably walks a fine line of wanting to follow the source material as well as titillating their audience, but at the same time not wanting to chase away people who would find this distasteful. I personally want to hope that them toning the nudity down in the third season compared to previous seasons may be a sign that they're taking the show in a better direction. Maybe I'm naive to think so, but I'll hope all the same.

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