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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2340 on: 06 Jul 2018, 23:41 »

Had she been fitted with a device?
Had the lady lost her mind at all?
Had she taken up a new hobby?

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2341 on: 06 Jul 2018, 23:49 »
Had she been fitted with a device?

Not "fitted with" but she had a certain object with her for the first time, yes.

Had she taken up a new hobby?

Well, taking care of these dogs in the first place was kind of a hobby.
« Last Edit: 06 Jul 2018, 23:53 by Mandle »

Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2342 on: 07 Jul 2018, 00:00 »
Was the item she had with her a pendant alarm?
Was it a dog whistle?
 

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2343 on: 07 Jul 2018, 04:46 »
(I'll update the main post a bit later. Assume for now that any questions I don't comment on are a simple NO answer)

Was the item she had with her a pendant alarm?

Nothing so high-tech.

Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2344 on: 07 Jul 2018, 09:21 »
Did she have a bell of some kind?

 

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2345 on: 07 Jul 2018, 09:42 »
Has she gotten crutches that irritated their dogs?
Has she gotten a wheelchair that irritated their dogs?
Has she gotten a wound dressing that irritated their dogs?

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2346 on: 07 Jul 2018, 10:55 »
Did she break her arm and had plaster around it?
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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2347 on: 07 Jul 2018, 13:41 »
Case#58: Killed By Love

She was killed by those she loved the most. What happened?

YES
Was she a human?
Was she killed deliberately? (As with the "by accident" answer below this one is borderline, but yes)
Was she killed by a decision she made herself? (Kind of unavoidably, and not knowingly, but yes)
Was she in the proximity of those she loved the most when she died?
Was she elderly?
Was there any blood at the scene?
Was she killed suddenly (rather than slowly over time)?
Were those she loved the most her pet(s)?
Were "those she loved the most" living things?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of canine?
Did she die because of the wounds bleeding?
Did her dog(s) attack her?
Did her dog(s) not recognise her for some reason? (Not exactly but something like this, yes)
Did she startle her dog(s)? (More "scare" than "startle", but close enough)
Has she irritated the dogs by changing her look? (Something about her was different, yes)
Did the dogs perceive her to be attacking them? (Or about to attack, yes)
Did she suffer a medical emergency? (The day before, yes)
Was her "change" an accident? (Yes, she had had an accident)
Had she been fitted with a device? (Not "fitted with" but she had a certain object with her for the first time, yes.)
Had she taken up a new hobby? (Well, yes, taking care of these dogs in the first place was kind of a hobby.)
Has she gotten crutches that irritated the dogs? (Yes, close enough: She was using a walking stick for the first time)

NO
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Was "she" a pet?
Was she diabetic but had a sweet tooth?
Did she love someone or something she was allergic to?
Was she murdered by accident? (Hmmm...Not exactly "by accident")
Was she killed by a relative?
Did she die in a hospital?
Did she die due to the administration of medication?
Did she die due to the non-administration of medication?
Was she a child?
Would this event constitute murder?
Did she choke on something?
Was she lying on her back? (Possibly, but doesn't really matter)
Is there a murder weapon near her body?
Was she found dead by the police?
Were those who killed her human?
Did she want to die?
Had she fallen unconscious before she was killed?
Were "those she loved the most" memories?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of feline?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of primate?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of marine life?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of reptile?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of lizard?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of insect?
Did the dog jump on her to lick her face and made her fall and hit her head?
Were those she loved the most a part of her?
Were those she loved the most called Jim, Jack or Johnny?
Were those she loved the most her cat(s)?
Did she choke on furballs?
Has she been poisoned?
Has she been strangled?
did she smell like dogfood?
Did she bathe in doogfood or meat?
Is she lady gaga wearing her meatdress again?
Did she do something that made the dogs biting her? (No, apart from the action that changed her appearance)
Did she say something that made the dogs attack her?
Did she cosplay as catwoman and her dogs got angry?
Did she buy the wrong food and the dogs were very afraid because they had the same food over and over.
Did she normally feed them human flesh and this time brought normal dry food and the hunger remained...?
Had she fainted or been knocked out?
Did the dogs think she was dead?
Did the dogs eat her alive? (They killed her but they didn't eat her)
Did she have a sex change and her dogs thought she was an intruder?
Did she smell different?
Was she wearing some kind of device that gave off a sound that drove the dogs crazy?
Did her voice sound different?
Was she dressed differently from normal? (No, it wasn't her clothes or anything worn on the body)
Had something grown on the woman?
Did she have a different hairstyle?
Did she have a beard?
Were they in a different location than normal?
Did something else scare the dogs, preventing them from recognizing her?
Was the change in appearance a matter of how she acted?
Was she drugged or intoxicated?
Has she had a beauty operation?
Did she wear a (beauty/oxygen)mask?
Did she have skin rash?
Was she sunburn?
Was she wearing someone elses clothes?
Were the dogs wolfs?

Had the lady lost her mind at all?
Was the item she had with her a pendant alarm? (No, nothing so high-tech)
Was it a dog whistle?
Did she have a bell of some kind?
Has she gotten a wheelchair that irritated their dogs?
Has she gotten a wound dressing that irritated their dogs?
Did she break her arm and had plaster around it?

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2348 on: 07 Jul 2018, 13:47 »
So we now know that the old lady had been using a walking stick for the first time and that this made her dogs attack and kill her.

The only piece left in the puzzle is figuring out why such a change would have triggered her dogs to do such a thing.
« Last Edit: 07 Jul 2018, 13:52 by Mandle »

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2349 on: 07 Jul 2018, 13:58 »
Were the dogs previously beaten with a stick? (as in they were mistreated as pups?)
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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2350 on: 07 Jul 2018, 14:19 »
The dogs thought the stick was a plaything and took it off her making her stumble and hit her head.

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2351 on: 07 Jul 2018, 15:03 »
Case#58: Killed By Love

She was killed by those she loved the most. What happened?

YES
Was she a human?
Was she killed deliberately? (As with the "by accident" answer below this one is borderline, but yes)
Was she killed by a decision she made herself? (Kind of unavoidably, and not knowingly, but yes)
Was she in the proximity of those she loved the most when she died?
Was she elderly?
Was there any blood at the scene?
Was she killed suddenly (rather than slowly over time)?
Were those she loved the most her pet(s)?
Were "those she loved the most" living things?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of canine?
Did she die because of the wounds bleeding?
Did her dog(s) attack her?
Did her dog(s) not recognise her for some reason? (Not exactly but something like this, yes)
Did she startle her dog(s)? (More "scare" than "startle", but close enough)
Has she irritated the dogs by changing her look? (Something about her was different, yes)
Did the dogs perceive her to be attacking them? (Or about to attack, yes)
Did she suffer a medical emergency? (The day before, yes)
Was her "change" an accident? (Yes, she had had an accident)
Had she been fitted with a device? (Not "fitted with" but she had a certain object with her for the first time, yes.)
Had she taken up a new hobby? (Well, yes, taking care of these dogs in the first place was kind of a hobby.)
Has she gotten crutches that irritated the dogs? (Yes, close enough: She was using a walking stick for the first time)
Were the dogs previously beaten with a stick? (as in they were mistreated as pups?)

NO
Spoiler: ShowHide
Was "she" a pet?
Was she diabetic but had a sweet tooth?
Did she love someone or something she was allergic to?
Was she murdered by accident? (Hmmm...Not exactly "by accident")
Was she killed by a relative?
Did she die in a hospital?
Did she die due to the administration of medication?
Did she die due to the non-administration of medication?
Was she a child?
Would this event constitute murder?
Did she choke on something?
Was she lying on her back? (Possibly, but doesn't really matter)
Is there a murder weapon near her body?
Was she found dead by the police?
Were those who killed her human?
Did she want to die?
Had she fallen unconscious before she was killed?
Were "those she loved the most" memories?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of feline?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of primate?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of marine life?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of reptile?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of lizard?
Were "those she loved the most" some kind of insect?
Did the dog jump on her to lick her face and made her fall and hit her head?
Were those she loved the most a part of her?
Were those she loved the most called Jim, Jack or Johnny?
Were those she loved the most her cat(s)?
Did she choke on furballs?
Has she been poisoned?
Has she been strangled?
did she smell like dogfood?
Did she bathe in doogfood or meat?
Is she lady gaga wearing her meatdress again?
Did she do something that made the dogs biting her? (No, apart from the action that changed her appearance)
Did she say something that made the dogs attack her?
Did she cosplay as catwoman and her dogs got angry?
Did she buy the wrong food and the dogs were very afraid because they had the same food over and over.
Did she normally feed them human flesh and this time brought normal dry food and the hunger remained...?
Had she fainted or been knocked out?
Did the dogs think she was dead?
Did the dogs eat her alive? (They killed her but they didn't eat her)
Did she have a sex change and her dogs thought she was an intruder?
Did she smell different?
Was she wearing some kind of device that gave off a sound that drove the dogs crazy?
Did her voice sound different?
Was she dressed differently from normal? (No, it wasn't her clothes or anything worn on the body)
Had something grown on the woman?
Did she have a different hairstyle?
Did she have a beard?
Were they in a different location than normal?
Did something else scare the dogs, preventing them from recognizing her?
Was the change in appearance a matter of how she acted?
Was she drugged or intoxicated?
Has she had a beauty operation?
Did she wear a (beauty/oxygen)mask?
Did she have skin rash?
Was she sunburn?
Was she wearing someone elses clothes?
Were the dogs wolfs?

Had the lady lost her mind at all?
Was the item she had with her a pendant alarm? (No, nothing so high-tech)
Was it a dog whistle?
Did she have a bell of some kind?
Has she gotten a wheelchair that irritated their dogs?
Has she gotten a wound dressing that irritated their dogs?
Did she break her arm and had plaster around it?
The dogs thought the stick was a plaything and took it off her making her stumble and hit her head.

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2352 on: 07 Jul 2018, 15:07 »
The case has been 99% solved but I would like to see it through to 100% closure:

Why was the eldery lady taking care of these dogs in the first place?

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2353 on: 07 Jul 2018, 16:40 »
Was she giving love to rescue dogs?
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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2354 on: 07 Jul 2018, 17:54 »
Was she giving love to rescue dogs?

I think right here we can declare this case closed and solved by Cassie:

This case was based on one of the saddest news stories I have ever heard:

The elderly lady built a shelter for rescue dogs in her back yard as something meaningful to do in her old age.

She accepted the rescue dogs from the local shelter that nobody else took in.

In case anyone does not know what a "rescue dog" is: It is a dog that was abused or neglected by its owner and was removed by law into custody to be potentially adopted by another owner.

Eventually she had about a dozen dogs that she was taking care of and that nobody else wanted, including a big alpha-male: The leader of the pack.

Everything was fine until, one day, the elderly lady took a fall and hurt her hip.

The next time she went out to feed the dogs she needed to use a walking stick to walk down to the shelter.

The big alpha-male dog she had rescued had been beaten with a stick by the man that previously owned him.

When this dog saw the elderly woman coming with the stick in hand he (most likely) flashed back to being beaten as a pup and reacted in his defense by attacking the woman.

As he was the alpha-male dog the other dogs joined in and also attacked her.

The woman was killed by the dogs she had saved.

The dogs that attacked her were all put to death as the law demanded.

Probably this makes sense in this case. Nobody would take in a rescue dog that had killed somebody.

But the saddest thing for me about this incident is that it was all caused by human cruelty and I hate to imagine how those dogs felt after they had killed the woman that had cared for them.

CASE CLOSED
« Last Edit: 07 Jul 2018, 17:58 by Mandle »

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2355 on: 09 Jul 2018, 14:58 »
People used to comment after the end of a case to kind of let the host know if it had been involving or, if not, then why not.

This is what makes hosting a case interesting for me: knowing how people felt after the ending.

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2356 on: 09 Jul 2018, 16:24 »
I thought the case was interesting, but just now saw it was solved. I had not heard that story but it is very sad.
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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2357 on: 09 Jul 2018, 16:30 »
Ahh sorry man. I was still waiting for that last 1% and didn't realise the case was closed already.

I like that it was based on a real case. It's a good story, albeit tragic. I must admit though, I prefer these when they are a murder rather than an accident. It's fun working out whodunnit and why. But here we pretty much established that was an accident involving a pet pretty early on and the rest was just garnering the details.

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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2358 on: 09 Jul 2018, 18:11 »
Oh, sorry, been "spacing out"... (roll)
I was "close" on my first attempt... (roll) The fact that I entered and continued posting questions (albeit not many) means it was interesting enough to participate... as some times I just read. ;)
And yes the poor woman. Though, did she knew the background of the dogs? And if so, cause she should, wondering why she choose to walk in there with a cane. Maybe she just forgot and did not thought the dog(s) would attack.

Anyway, I don't have anything, so anyone can just jump in with a new case. (nod)
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Re: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread
« Reply #2359 on: 09 Jul 2018, 19:27 »
Thanks for the case, Mandle! Well worth it as always. A sad story for sure.

Animal motives is pretty far out of my wheelhouse to speculate about, but I suppose it came together in the end.