Topic: The "Black Stories" crime riddles thread

[Snarky]

That's what I asked! ... I don't think I ever got an answer, though.

[dayowlron]

He already has:
Were the cards playing cards?
 in the "No group" so they are not playing cards.

[Tabata]

@ Mandle
             

It is near to impossible to fit all the facts right now because not all of the circumstances have been revealed.
You are missing some urgent informations to get it solved at this point


@ Snarky
Sorry for the confusion on my side, Snarky.
It would have helped if you  clarified the meaning of your question when I asked about that.
But nonetheless your cards playing cards is sorted/listed as soon as I found a meaning - just reread the „no“-list to find it.


@ all
So to clarify the aspect about the cards for all I'd like to tell you that it doesn't matter what kind of cards game was played.
They just needed to decide about a winner and everyone took a card from a dek (of whatever kind).

Note to self: Next time let them use matches instead of cards in that story. 


@ Cassiebsg
You will remember that one for sure! We just need someone to come up with the right questions. 


Keep it coming!CASE # 2:
They found three dead bodies in the room, also a set of cards and a revolver.
What happened?


Yes
Were they playing some form of Russian Roulette with the cards and the gun?
Had the revolver been fired by one of the people found dead?
Was (one of) the people shot?
They each drew a card ... 
Did any of the three shoot themselves?
Did one of them shot himself?
… was it a suicide? 


No 
Were (all of) the people shot? 
Was there a 4th person playing cards and lost all his money so he shot the other 3 and fled with the money?
… was there signs of a robbery gone bad?
Did all three die of the same causes?
Were the cards playing cards?
… the one with the lowest card is going to be killed with the gun,
but before they can reveal their cards one guy picks up the gun and shoots the other two,
then he turns over the cards and realizes he had the lowest card then dies from a heart attack.
Had the gun been fired more than once?
Were the cards business cards?
Was one of the three people a magician?
Did at least one of the three people die of natural causes?
Did at least one of the three people die of poison?
Did at least one of the three people get stabbed?
Did at least one of the three people get bludgeoned?
Were there still bullets in the gun?
Did they play a game that they thought only one of them would survive?
Did one of the people shoot the two others?
Did they each look at their own card and assumed that they had won or lost?
If so (shot himself), was it an accident?
Did one of the men get busted for cheating at the game?
Did the third guy laugh himself to death?        


irrelevant/don't know myself 
did the dead bodies have money on them, …
Are the cards 'playing cards' of the suited 1-10 Jack Queen King Ace variety?     


Keep it coming!

[Stupot]

That's what I asked! ... I don't think I ever got an answer, though.

He already has:
Were the cards playing cards?
 in the "No group" so they are not playing cards.

I was just trying to clarify the point because it seemed confused, but I guess it's irrelevant what kind of cards they were, after all.

[Mandle]

@ Mandle
             

It is near to impossible to fit all the facts right now because not all of the circumstances have been revealed.
You are missing some urgent informations to get it solved at this point

I figured it was worth a try and that if I was close in some way it might have helped...

Oh well, it was still fun trying to tailor my solution to the available facts so far...

[Stupot]

Were the three dead bodies all human?

[Cassiebsg]

That's what I asked! ... I don't think I ever got an answer, though.

He already has:
Were the cards playing cards?
 in the "No group" so they are not playing cards.

I was just trying to clarify the point because it seemed confused, but I guess it's irrelevant what kind of cards they were, after all.

Uhm.. now I'm confused... if it's irrelevant what kind of cards they were, why is it Were the cards playing cards? on the No list? 

...

Did one of the 3 guys strangle one of the others?

[Snarky]

@ Snarky
Sorry for the confusion on my side, Snarky.
It would have helped if you  clarified the meaning of your question when I asked about that.

I thought Cassiebsg explained it in the following post, and then Stupot+ more explicitly further down.
 

No 
Were the cards playing cards?


irrelevant/don't know myself 
Are the cards 'playing cards' of the suited 1-10 Jack Queen King Ace variety?

Hold on! This is the same question with two different answers...

Anyway:
Did the person who was shot die before the two others?

[Kumpel]

Did the person who was shot die before the two others?

@Snarky: So you think only one was shot and the other two commited suicide? Interesting

Is the number/value/color of the card each one drew relevant to there fate?

[Tabata]

My dear investigators
I think its the right time for giving a hint towards another direction.
I have spared neither costs nor effort to get a photo of the evidence in question.
So for all of you who want to see the cards found in that room
please take a peek …

Hope that won't give away too much but wanted to excuse somehow for the confusion that I caused by my bad english knowledge.
Until the latest explanations I still thought of a fortune-telling cards game and didn't realize that it simply was the question
about what kind of cards have been found. 
  So I placed the 'playing cards' in the 'yes'-list now
(even if it doesn't matter what kind of cards it was – but it feels right that way).

Keep it coming!CASE # 2:
They found three dead bodies in the room, also a set of cards and a revolver.
What happened?


Yes
Were they playing some form of Russian Roulette with the cards and the gun?
Had the revolver been fired by one of the people found dead?
Was (one of) the people shot?
They each drew a card ... 
Did any of the three shoot themselves?
Did one of them shot himself?
… was it a suicide?
Were the cards 'playing cards'?
Were the three dead bodies all human?
Did the person who was shot die before the two others?
Is the number/value/color of the card each one drew relevant to there fate?     


No 
Were (all of) the people shot? 
Was there a 4th person playing cards and lost all his money so he shot the other 3 and fled with the money?
… was there signs of a robbery gone bad?
Did all three die of the same causes?
Were the cards playing cards?
… the one with the lowest card is going to be killed with the gun,
but before they can reveal their cards one guy picks up the gun and shoots the other two,
then he turns over the cards and realizes he had the lowest card then dies from a heart attack.
Had the gun been fired more than once?
Were the cards business cards?
Was one of the three people a magician?
Did at least one of the three people die of natural causes?
Did at least one of the three people die of poison?
Did at least one of the three people get stabbed?
Did at least one of the three people get bludgeoned?
Were there still bullets in the gun?
Did they play a game that they thought only one of them would survive?
Did one of the people shoot the two others?
Did they each look at their own card and assumed that they had won or lost?
If so (shot himself), was it an accident?
Did one of the men get busted for cheating at the game?
Did the third guy laugh himself to death?
Did one of the 3 guys strangle one of the others?       


irrelevant/don't know myself 
did the dead bodies have money on them, …
Are the cards 'playing cards' of the suited 1-10 Jack Queen King Ace variety?     


Keep it coming!

[Snarky]

Did the person who was shot die before the two others?

@Snarky: So you think only one was shot and the other two commited suicide? Interesting

We know that one person shot themselves, and that it's not the case that one person shot the two others. I suppose it would have been possible that one person shot one of the others, then themselves, and the last person died of some other cause, but it seemed simpler to assume that the suicide was the only shooting. As is now confirmed.

Did the other two people kill each other?

[Kumpel]

Was there a draw (same naumber/value/color on two or more cards) after the cards have been drawn?

[Danvzare]

Was the room locked?
Was any of the three people depressed?
Did the revolver contain only one bullet before the game began?
Did the others die from a ricocheting bullet?

[Stupot]

Was there an explosion of any kind?

[Cassiebsg]

Were there cards by each body?

[Riaise]

Did the bullet kill more than one person?
Had they all revealed the cards that they had drawn before anyone died?

[Tabata]

Keep it coming!CASE # 2:
They found three dead bodies in the room, also a set of cards and a revolver.
What happened?


Yes
Were they playing some form of Russian Roulette with the cards and the gun?
Had the revolver been fired by one of the people found dead?
Was (one of) the people shot?
They each drew a card ... 
Did any of the three shoot themselves?
Did one of them shot himself?
… was it a suicide?
Were the cards 'playing cards'?
Were the three dead bodies all human?
Did the person who was shot die before the two others?
Is the number/value/color of the card each one drew relevant to there fate?
Was the room locked?
Did the revolver contain only one bullet before the game began?
Was there an explosion of any kind?
Had they all revealed the cards that they had drawn before anyone died?   


No 
Were (all of) the people shot? 
Was there a 4th person playing cards and lost all his money so he shot the other 3 and fled with the money?
… was there signs of a robbery gone bad?
Did all three die of the same causes?
Were the cards playing cards?
… the one with the lowest card is going to be killed with the gun,
but before they can reveal their cards one guy picks up the gun and shoots the other two,
then he turns over the cards and realizes he had the lowest card then dies from a heart attack.
Had the gun been fired more than once?
Were the cards business cards?
Was one of the three people a magician?
Did at least one of the three people die of natural causes?
Did at least one of the three people die of poison?
Did at least one of the three people get stabbed?
Did at least one of the three people get bludgeoned?
Were there still bullets in the gun?
Did they play a game that they thought only one of them would survive?
Did one of the people shoot the two others?
Did they each look at their own card and assumed that they had won or lost?
If so (shot himself), was it an accident?
Did one of the men get busted for cheating at the game?
Did the third guy laugh himself to death?
Did one of the 3 guys strangle one of the others?
Did the other two people kill each other?
Was there a draw (same naumber/value/color on two or more cards) after the cards have been drawn?
Was any of the three people depressed?
Did the others die from a ricocheting bullet?
Did the bullet kill more than one person?     


irrelevant/don't know myself 
did the dead bodies have money on them, …
Are the cards 'playing cards' of the suited 1-10 Jack Queen King Ace variety?
Were there cards by each body? (Just pin-ups are pictured – like to be seen on the image)
Were there cards at each body?  (No, they lay them back afterwards)   


Keep it coming!

I'm starting to get a playing card phobia …

[janleht]

Were more people involved than three?

[Snarky]

Did the other two people die from the same cause?
Did one or both of the other two also kill themselves?
Did they know ahead of time that they would all die?
Were they using the cards to "draw lots" (decide at random who was going to do something)?

[Kumpel]

Was at least one of the persons blindfolded?
Did the gun/the bullet inside explode in some way that was not intended by the shooter?