The manga thread

Started by Femme Stab Mode >:D, Thu 17/04/2003 12:55:27

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Shattered Sponge

Quote from: DGMacphee on Thu 17/04/2003 16:25:42
It's X the TV series -- I'm not all that enthused about it actually because it's hard to keep track over long periods.
Well I guess I can understand that - but either way, it still has a great soundtrack and some nice pseudo-religious imagery (except for that pentagram thing, that was just cheap).

Quote from: DGMacphee on Thu 17/04/2003 16:25:42I like She -- It has some decent character development. True, the missles coming out the back are a little silly, but I've heard the ending is a real tear-jerker.
Well, I've only watched the first three episodes so far (and I did love the first one), so I can't really judge too harshly.  I just have a long-standing grudge against GONZO (the animation studio) for making that gawd-awful Hellsing.

Quote from: DGMacphee on Thu 17/04/2003 16:25:42And the Englush title for that anime is "Jungle wa Itsumo Hare Nochi Guu" -- see it cause it's a side-splitting cack!
Dear Lord.  I just watched the first episode, and have come to the following conclusions:

1) You are completely mad, and I fear for my safety (yes, it took me this long).
2) 'Hee' is the best name for a bird ever.
3) I AM going to have nightmares about that opening sequence.
4) Why does this fansub translate the first line of the opening song as 'make love, boys and girls'?  I know that isn't really a conclusion, but still, I wanna know.
5) 'Hee' is the best name for a bird ever.

Thanks heaps for the reccomendation.

remixor

I used to be somewhat into anime (don't know if that counts since this is a manga thread), not hardcore, but I enjoyed it.  Now there are still a couple series I appreciate, but on the whole I find the genre to be sort of silly.  It seems like it's sort of a competition to give as many girls as possible the biggest breasts and biggest guns.  You could make rather similar statements about American action movies, but I don't really enjoy those either.  Again, there is good anime, but I've sort become rather cynical about the genre as a whole.  Just my two cents, though.


EDIT: I just realized I'll probably get about a dozen threads that look exactly like the following.  Ah well...

QuoteIt seems like it's sort of a competition to give as many girls as possible the biggest breasts and biggest guns

whats wrong with that??  ??? ??? ;D ;D ;D
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frobozz

I watched the first episode of Jungle wa Itsumo Hale Nochi Guu.  It's okayyyyyyyyyy, but not nearly as funny as Azumanga Daioh IMO.  It's safe to say that I'm hooked on this series, though.

-Fro.

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Quote from: DGMacphee on Thu 17/04/2003 14:44:31

P.S. I'm so damn glad Miyazaki won the animated Oscar this year for Spirited Away -- much better than the Disney crap like Treasure Planet and Lilo and Stitch!


I loved spirited away! I have about a dozen of their posters, and lilo and stich was such a dissapointment....I'm currently learning to draw manga, there is a couple of guys I know who are obsessed with it, they shock me sometimes. I walked in on them swaping hentai. Personaly, I find that Chibi is the most fun manga of all, with the oversized heads and croses instead of eyes when they are unconsious...
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Esseb

Before you get too obsessed, learn the difference between Manga and Anime :).

I suppose I'm obsessed also. Not nearly as much as Esper though.

Shattered Sponge

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Trapezoid

Lilo and Stitch was Disney's best animated feature in a LONG time. Don't diss.

Helm

Esseb makes a good point. This reads 'the manga thread' :O
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Oh stuff you... Manga fans are generaly Anime fans as well and vice versa.
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frobozz

QuoteLilo and Stitch was Disney's best animated feature in a LONG time. Don't diss.

True, but IMO that's not saying much.

-Fro.

Trapezoid

#30
I still love it. :)

Excuse the next couple of paragraphs, they're a rant, but there's a real question at the end:
My problem with anime/manga is most of it is either WAY too serious and melodramatic, or full of rather uncomfortable foreign humor. And by foreign I mean hard to relate to.
And also the fact that there isn't much visual diversity. With western cartoons, and comics to an extent, each one usually has its own unique style (Simpsons, for example.) In Japan they seem to only have several studios which all operate based on the same techniques and rules. Are there any independant animation studios in Japan that don't use the traditional manga look?

DGMacphee

Quote from: Las Naranjas on Thu 17/04/2003 23:20:54
The most fascinating thing about Neon Genesis was the great way they could seamlessly fit cleavage into any shot (hey, I didn't have cleavage like that when I was 14).

Thank god there was always a reason to bend over, or my interest would have been severely dminished.

I think you've just described the most fascinating thing about EVERY anime!


Quote from: Shattered Sponge on Fri 18/04/2003 03:13:10
1) You are completely mad, and I fear for my safety (yes, it took me this long).
2) 'Hee' is the best name for a bird ever.
3) I AM going to have nightmares about that opening sequence.
4) Why does this fansub translate the first line of the opening song as 'make love, boys and girls'?  I know that isn't really a conclusion, but still, I wanna know.
5) 'Hee' is the best name for a bird ever.

Thanks heaps for the reccomendation.

Wait until you get to episode 3 with the afro chest hair!

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Quote from: Esseb on Sun 20/04/2003 11:11:02
Before you get too obsessed, learn the difference between Manga and Anime :).
I'd just like to say, in Sasha's defence, that it wasn't actually her who started talking about anime...

Las Naranjas

Trap-It's all cultural to some extent too. You'd be surprised how similair all western animation looks to the Japanese (I asked some).

It is slightly more uniform than ours, but only slightly, there is alot of diversity under the broad Japanese roof, just as there's alot of diversity under the broad western roof.

It's rather like the people really, we all look the same to them ;)
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frobozz

QuoteWait until you get to episode 3 with the afro chest hair!

"Yeah! Cool and hip!"

rotfl--I watched episodes 3 and 4 tonight-- this show is getting better and better.

Guu's laugh > *

-Fro.

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Quote from: Trapezoid on Mon 21/04/2003 00:08:25
And also the fact that there isn't much visual diversity.
If you look closer, every single show has a different style. For example, my avatar is an example of an eye that comes from the show "Slayers". The more serious shows have narrower eyes, and the proportion changes. In serious anime the head generaly takes up 1/6 of the body while in chibi the head can take up to 2/5 of the body. The number of points of shine or "shinies" in the eye varies from 2 to 5 or even more when the character is extremely happy.
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Quote from: frobozz on Mon 21/04/2003 08:19:41
QuoteWait until you get to episode 3 with the afro chest hair!

"Yeah! Cool and hip!"

rotfl--I watched episodes 3 and 4 tonight-- this show is getting better and better.

Guu's laugh > *

-Fro.

Aye -- it surely does get better!

Guu is now a cult anime at the club I go to!
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Quote from: Shattered Sponge on Mon 21/04/2003 07:11:53
Quote from: Esseb on Sun 20/04/2003 11:11:02
Before you get too obsessed, learn the difference between Manga and Anime :).
I'd just like to say, in Sasha's defence, that it wasn't actually her who started talking about anime...

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Quote from: Trapezoid on Sun 20/04/2003 15:00:40
Lilo and Stitch was Disney's best animated feature in a LONG time. Don't diss.
That only makes it less crap, not more good. I loved the art style and basic plot, then they seemed to decide the plot development was boring and fast forwarded through the whole film in order to fit in more fast scenes. Disney needs to stop munching speed.

DGMacphee

#38
It's funny how someone says Disney release their best work in ages (Lilo and Stitch), yet several months later they make their worst film to date (Treasure Planet).

Meanwhile, Miyazaki's last two films (Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke) were:

- critically successful (Currently, Spirited Away scores an average of 97% on RottenTomatoes.com, a website that collects all major newspaper and website reviews and calulates an average score -- and a 97% average is f-ing good! At the time of the US cinema release it had a 100% rating.)

- made a ton of money (Spirited Away grossed over $200 million before it hit US cinemas; Princess Mononoke grossed around $150 million before hitting the US)

- and have won a slew of awards (Besides Spirited Away winning best animated feature film at this year's Oscars, both films won BEST PICTURE at the Japanese Academy Awards; Also, Spirited Away swept the major American Animation awards, also known as the Annies).

My point is this: Disney needs to re-evaluate its work -- Their films reach nowhere near the heights of some of the other stuff out there.

Their only saving grace is Pixar (Toy Story 1 + 2, A Bugs Life, Monsters Inc, and the upcoming Finding Nemo), but I hear Pixar are looking to move out of the Mouse House.

And let us not mention Disney's rapidly declining share price since Treasure Planet, or else Michael Eisner will throw a hissy-fit.

Disney used to be on top -- but now they're a sad reflection of an animation empire that once was.

Uncle Walt must be rolling in his cryo-freeze chamber!**

As for live action movies, that's another story.  (*coughcoughMiramaxcoughcoughHarveyWeisteincoughcough*)




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Disney is going into the gutter... but it's already there. The reason anyone watches disney's film is because they are advertised a lot. Spirited Away wasn't advertised much. lilo and stich has a nice plot but I think they could have done better. And the little marsian could have been cuter if you ask me...
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