Author Topic: Where's Peder Johnsen (and AGSArchives)? (Read 2998 times)

[delete} · « **on:** 20 Oct 2018, 21:48 »

"Where's Peder Johnsen? And foremost his AGSArchives forum section?" some of you may think. Well, I cannot tell you, I only asked Peder and first he didn't know what I was talking about. Sad in a way, he's always been very kind to me, and a lifetime-awarded legend here.

Jack · « **Reply #1 on:** 20 Oct 2018, 21:51 »

Pyotr come back.

qptain Nemo · « **Reply #2 on:** 20 Oct 2018, 21:56 »

LimpingFish · « **Reply #3 on:** 22 Oct 2018, 21:30 »

AGSArchives is still up for now, but it's officially defunct, as is the accompanying forum section. Peder gave everybody plenty of warning about shutting it down in the time leading up to him doing so, so there's not much of a mystery there.

He also stopped publishing MAGSAN, and gave his reasons in this post:

Quote from: Peder 🚀 on 06 Aug 2018, 20:45

Thanks all,

Quote from: Danvzare on 02 Aug 2018, 12:31
May I ask why you're ending it?

Yes you may , I'm just re-prioritizing the things I want to do in my free time as there's just too much all at once, MAGSAN unfortunately fell too far down the list to make it.

[delete} · « **Reply #4 on:** 23 Oct 2018, 19:21 »

But why closing down AGSA section while AGSA is still live? There could have been announcements on relocation etc.

But as always, the typical answering scheme of AGS Deep State. Answer in oh-so-well reasonable words but actually not to the question. Happens every time. What's next, moving this to the Rumpus Room?

Jim Reed · « **Reply #5 on:** 23 Oct 2018, 20:52 »

Removing the AGSA part of the forum without discussing it with Peder is unjust. Peder contributed to AGS in many ways, this should not be forgotten.

Khris · « **Reply #6 on:** 23 Oct 2018, 21:03 »

I can't imagine the mods deleting the section without discussing things with Peder first...?
Given that the AGS Archives are shutting down, isn't it much more reasonable to assume that he himself asked for the forum section to be removed...?

Babar · « **Reply #7 on:** 23 Oct 2018, 21:23 »

MY WEAPONS ARE READY AND I AM PREPARED TO DEFEND THE HONOUR OF THE PEDER!

Peder 🚀 · « **Reply #8 on:** 23 Oct 2018, 21:24 »

Quote from: Khris on 23 Oct 2018, 21:03

without discussing things with Peder first...?

The first I heard of it was from a sal tell on #clubgalen irc from bici saying it was gone..
I don't remember having any conversations with any mods about having it removed

Jim Reed · « **Reply #9 on:** 23 Oct 2018, 21:34 »

Second time the mods have been called out this month. If you care about the community cover yourself in ash, else you will ruin this place. If you don't care then leave so someone who does can step up.

Stupot · « **Reply #10 on:** 23 Oct 2018, 21:45 »

This sounds like the work of someone having a bit of a tidy up and not thinking straight. I doubt it was at all malicious. At the very least mods should discuss this kind of thing with each other (in which case they no doubt would have concluded it’s better to give Peder the heads-up after all).

LimpingFish · « **Reply #11 on:** 23 Oct 2018, 22:28 »

Quote from: Peder 🚀 on 23 Oct 2018, 21:24

The first I heard of it was from a sal tell on #clubgalen irc from bici saying it was gone..
I don't remember having any conversations with any mods about having it removed

To be perfectly honest, I don't personally have any knowledge of how the situation played out, or whether or not any discussions took place.

Regardless, the fact that you only learned it was gone through #irc, and weren't PMing AGA as soon as it disappeared, gives credence to the fact that you seemed to be done with it, as you seemed to be done with AGSArchives itself. It's been over a year since you announced the closure of AGSArchives, so why has this only become a thing now?

Quote from: "Amélie" on 23 Oct 2018, 19:21

But why closing down AGSA section while AGSA is still live? There could have been announcements on relocation etc.

Any such discussions could have been held in a thread in here, and hardly require their own sub-section of the forums. Leaving an otherwise defunct section of the forums open on the off-chance something might eventually be posted, means another board to moderate. And as I said, it's been a over a year since the AGSArchives closed, without any public discussions or announcements taking place. So...

Quote from: "Amélie" on 23 Oct 2018, 19:21

But as always, the typical answering scheme of AGS Deep State.

Oh, please.

Quote from: Stupot on 23 Oct 2018, 21:45

This sounds like the work of someone having a bit of a tidy up and not thinking straight. I doubt it was at all malicious.

I can guarantee it wasn't malicious. And I feel pretty secure in saying that no moderator had any hand in Peder's decision to shutter AGSArchives, or stop publishing MAGSAN, or any other decision regarding his future involvement with any AGS-related projects.

The only relevant portion of this discussion, despite how some people are trying to play this thread, is the possible misplacing of a forum board.

I'm sure we'll have an answer soon.

Jack · « **Reply #12 on:** 23 Oct 2018, 22:47 »

Quote from: LimpingFish on 23 Oct 2018, 22:28

And as I said, it's been a over a year since the AGSArchives closed, without any public discussions or announcements taking place. So...

A correction here, AGS Archives is still running. I take no responsibility for them considering shutting down right after mirroring one of my games.

LimpingFish · « **Reply #13 on:** 23 Oct 2018, 23:46 »

Quote from: Jack on 23 Oct 2018, 22:47

A correction here, AGS Archives is still running.

Yes, it's still accessible, but as the last update says:

Quote

AGS Archives is shutting down, if you've relied on your game being hosted on AGSA it is important that you download your games and find another place to host them!

I will no longer update the database with new games effective immediately and the service will go offline at the end of the year or when the current library is fully available on archive.org, whichever comes first.

So, dead but not yet buried.

Jim Reed · « **Reply #14 on:** 24 Oct 2018, 08:34 »

Yeah, close the board so you don't have to moderate it. It's teeming with activity and it is so much work.

cat · « **Reply #15 on:** 24 Oct 2018, 12:02 »

I have no idea where the board went, there was no AGS Deep State discussion and decision about it, but it is back again. I suggest that everyone calms down now.

Andail · « **Reply #16 on:** 24 Oct 2018, 12:57 »

Quote from: Jim Reed on 23 Oct 2018, 21:34

Second time the mods have been called out this month. If you care about the community cover yourself in ash, else you will ruin this place. If you don't care then leave so someone who does can step up.

How have the moderators been called out, and what wrongdoings would have been the cause?

Quote from: "Amélie" on 23 Oct 2018, 19:21

But as always, the typical answering scheme of AGS Deep State. Answer in oh-so-well reasonable words but actually not to the question. Happens every time. What's next, moving this to the Rumpus Room?

This consparitorial theme baffles me. What is it that you're so dissatisfied with?

Maybe AGA disabled the AGSA forum because he believed it to be defunct and no longer needed. Maybe there was an accident involved. We moderators don't know yet.

That doesn't mean it's okay to spread this kind of negativity. Remember the group hug thread, guys? Please try to be reasonable and constructive, and give everyone the benefit of the doubt before we know what happened.

AGA · « **Reply #17 on:** 24 Oct 2018, 16:45 »

You people seriously need to find something more interesting to worry about.

I hid the forum because it wasn't being used anymore, and its definite end is in sight. It's not the first time that's happened, but for some reason now it's considered noteworthy...

Jack · « **Reply #18 on:** 24 Oct 2018, 19:38 »

Admit it, AGA. You're a Lennyphobe.

LimpingFish · « **Reply #19 on:** 24 Oct 2018, 20:11 »

Quote from: AGA on 24 Oct 2018, 16:45

I hid the forum because it wasn't being used anymore, and its definite end is in sight. It's not the first time that's happened, but for some reason now it's considered noteworthy...

Oh look! A perfectly rational explanation?! Who could have possibly been expecting that?! But please, everyone, continue with the baseless accusations and moderator bashing! It's so appreciated!

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