"Resources" website section is severely outdated

Started by Crimson Wizard, Sat 13/02/2021 22:39:05

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Crimson Wizard

This is a very old problem, but unfortunately old users seem to be not bothered by it, while new users may easily stumble on it.
If you go to the AGS main page here: https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/ags/ you will notice "Resources" in the end of the page.
This section has links that lead to lists that are decade+ outdated: mostly from 2006, and actual resources may be even older.

The new users who join ags would use these links and get wrong impression on what is available. Then they try to use these, and get into all kinds of problems (not working at all, or not working out of the box with the newest editor).

Furthermore, the list of modules, plugins and templates presented in AGS Wiki (https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/wiki/Category:Design_resources) is also outdated and not maintained anymore, it seems, as it does not include any of the recent modules. And these modules are not properly categorized in any meaningful way.

Indeed you can find something in Modules & Plugins forum thread, but firstly you have to know to look there, and secondly, searching for what you need there may be pretty complicated, unless you already know the title or correct term to look for.

This makes AGS website look rather weird. If you are an experienced user you may not care as you already know your way around, but if you are a new person, then you are stuck with outdated material and no instructions on how to use or upgrade them whatsoever.

I recall there was a lot of discussion back when AGS went opensource, and among other things people mentioned maintaining and reorganization of the website and resources. Unfortunately, nothing was done in this particular direction.


Therefore my suggestion is to:

1. Remove the outdated links from the homepage. It's better to not have links at all than to have links leading to unmaintained resources from 15 years ago.
Maybe replace this with a link to forum's "Modules & Plugins".
2. Plan a substitution for these lists. Ideally it may be something like a database with modules, plugins and templates uploaded similar to ags games. If that's too complicated, then perhaps organize a new list in the Wiki, keep it well categorized and maintained.
3. Plan on a place to backup the modules. A good option is a github repository, that way there will always be place to download from.

I dont want to suggest all the above should be done by website admins, I believe that looking for volunteers among AGS community is a necessity.

Alan v.Drake

Also a big clear link to the current manual: https://adventuregamestudio.github.io/ags-manual/
The current site has an outdated one at: https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/manual/
I'd put a redirect to the new one, the 3.4 one could end up in a subdir or removed

- Alan

Crimson Wizard

#2
Manual is a completely separate issue. The reason why it was not updated on the website afaik is that there is mostly a disagreement on how the contents should look like, because new one has many subentries stripped from the TOC. and maybe something else. And if you notice, that page on github.io in particular does not even have a proper TOC panel, so it's more difficult to navigate.

I could update the one on ags page from CHM using a special tool as it was done previously, technically it should not be a big problem.

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