AGS Wiki Updates/Discussion

Started by Hobbes, Tue 01/06/2021 12:32:26

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Hobbes

First things first: Sorry for yet another thread about the website.

The reason being is that I've started going through the Wiki. It'll probably be at a glacial pace, however, I think it's worth having one thread to collect all Wiki things. Then if I do something people don't think should happen, we can discuss that here instead of littering the "Broken Links" thread.

I'll add more posts as I update things.

I've taken the contents from the Community page on the AGS website and created a Communities Wiki page instead. This will enable the new site to just have a "Forums" link instead. The wiki Category "AGS Community and history" already existed anyway with quite a few pages, so it'll be easy to build from there and also link some more stuff in. I've added the Reddit link there now as well, since that wasn't on the main website. Snarky wanted a Discord link, but after checking the Community page, it already had a link to it, so I've just copied that across.

Since it's a wiki and anyone can edit, please, add more communities that you're aware of!

Hobbes

I've created a new Wiki Category called "Archived-Broken". People can fix these and then we can move them back into the Main Wiki. Or we can mark them for deletion and clear up the Wiki.

Instructions: If you add this to the bottom of a Wiki page, it will automatically be moved into this Category (be sure to remove the other categories to avoid confusion):


Code: ags

[[Category:Archived-Broken]]

eri0o

Unless anyone here is the mod of that reddit community it should be on the unofficial categories.

Hobbes

Further tidied up the AGS Community / History thing and actually split it into two categories: AGS Community & AGS History. Should help newbies understand what's recent and what isn't. Then if people want to, they can dive into the History part.

I'll work on some more paragraphs and stuff to clarify this as we move forward.

eri0o

#4
The topic here could be lifted to the wiki: (Encyclopedia of every adventure games puzzles ever) https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=56612.0

Also the treasure trove may be useful for placeholders when getting started: https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=55998.0

And this particular forum is useful for more information for people downloading the Editor: https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?board=28.0

The community pick of the month is decided here: https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=48959.0

AGA

The wiki is temporarily offline, while I upgrade some stuff.  Won't be long!

AGA

#6
Back now!  I've upgraded it to the latest version, please do let me know if anything seems to be broken!

I also installed a mobile friendly extension + skin combo, which should render a more streamlined version of the wiki on mobile devices.

Hobbes

Thanks for doing that AGA!

Can I request the following extension is installed:

https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FontAwesome

It'll help to provide some simple GUI styling to certain areas which should help with legibility.

Thank you!

Hobbes

#8
And back again. Just tried to update a page, but I get:

"Server returned error: HTTP 500." whilst the Editing interface is loading. So I can't edit any of the pages anymore at the moment.

When I finally click "Cancel" on the Editing interface, I get:

[4cdfdf16b272a0eba70ff04a] 2021-06-01 22:19:45: Fatal exception of type "Error"

or

[d06e65e8d1ae1e2f55010249] 2021-06-01 22:24:55: Fatal exception of type "Error"

Similarly, whilst logged in, clicking on Preferences at the top of the screen gives this:

[4c6121973a8d5605822a1ce1] 2021-06-01 22:23:34: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"

AGA

Should be fixed now!  I had some left over config from an older version of an extension that was causing mischief.  Please do confirm that you're now able to edit successfully.

Hobbes

Yup - it's working perfectly now, thanks for fixing it!

Did you also manage to install the FontAwesome extension? (I'm not sure how to check this myself :))

Hobbes

Just tried to add a graphic to the front page (the nice AGS cup) to bring some graphical interest to the whole thing. But either I don't have permission to upload things into the Wiki, or there's a bug still lingering around somewhere... :)


AGA

I've fixed that, it was a permissions issue on the server.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FontAwesome#Usage <- I installed the FontAwesome extension; please see here for the markup.  If you're curious, you can see a list of the installed extensions and their versions here: https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/wiki/Special:Version.

eri0o

AGA, more sort of a question, on the forums, it's possible to show images hosted elsewhere. Is there a way to do the same on the Wiki? Some external websites allows rendering information in an API that returns an image, I wanted to add one page with one of those, but could not figure it out.

AGA

Offsite hosting isn't necessarily the best idea though, if you have the option of hosting locally. Offsite hosting is less likely to always be available than something we have a local copy of, after all. What sort of images are you talking about?

eri0o

#15
Badges and similars. (it's alright not supporting, just curious)
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Hobbes

AGA, thank you yet again! I sent a brief PM with some additional small requests.

In the meantime, I've added a new page to the AGS Community area, indicating ways for people to help out. It's available here: https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/wiki/Ways_to_contribute

Please everyone, have a read and feel free to edit where appropriate (I'm not 100% how helping development is handled, for example).

Hobbes

Right, the past few weeks have been relatively quiet - but I've continued to tidy up minor areas here & there. The main page has had the biggest "make over" using FontAwesome icons to try and increase readability. Love the fact that the latest Wiki version ready so well on mobile.

The coding conventions AGS Wiki page can probably be removed, since a more actively maintained version is on the GitHub Wiki, so I've pointed towards there instead.

I also want to put this notion of "AGS is for hobbyists" to bed. So I made a start with a "Why choose AGS" style page. Feel free to edit/adapt/link stuff in there.

I'll keep plodding away on this Wiki thing... there's a lot of cobwebs there! :)

Crimson Wizard

Something that may be important to mention in the introduction, or some "troubleshooting" FAQ section: antiviruses don't like AGS for some reason, especially Avast (based on experience). A lot of people had issues with an antivirus or Windows Defender blocking editor or their games, causing them to stop working or not perform some action.

Hobbes

Yeah, I could add that to the FAQ somewhere - that's a bit odd though. Are people still reporting this issue using Windows 10 + Windows Defender? I've had numerous Windows systems using AGS and never ran into this issue. So I'd like to carefully phrase it that they might want to switch over to a modern version of the OS if they want to avoid this issue? (If it is more of a Windows 7/8/8.1 thing, perhaps?)

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