The challenge of the tentacle

Started by Wiggy, Tue 05/07/2022 15:54:32

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Wiggy

I've been waiting for someone else to admit they are stumped by some of these puzzles, which are very good indeed. I can't for the life of me work out boxes 2, 6, and 10. I can see what is required, I can see the nature of the puzzles, but understanding the clues is another thing. Box 2 - what the hell am I looking at? A brown rectangle coloured off-white inside. Box 6, obviously the card suits modify the value but I can rule out multiplication or addition. Box 10 is an apple product which I have never, and will never, use because I hate apple almost as much as I hate Disney Inc. Can someone give me a hint please?

Thanks in advance - good game btw.

heltenjon

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Quote from: Wiggy on Tue 05/07/2022 15:54:32
I've been waiting for someone else to admit they are stumped by some of these puzzles, which are very good indeed. I can't for the life of me work out boxes 2, 6, and 10. I can see what is required, I can see the nature of the puzzles, but understanding the clues is another thing. Box 2 - what the hell am I looking at? A brown rectangle coloured off-white inside. Box 6, obviously the card suits modify the value but I can rule out multiplication or addition. Box 10 is an apple product which I have never, and will never, use because I hate apple almost as much as I hate Disney Inc. Can someone give me a hint please?

Thanks in advance - good game btw.
As a betatester, I also had some problems with these boxes. I assume you have found the hints on the PC? If not, try that first.

Box 2:
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This puzzle is not self-contained. Look around.
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Box 6:
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You're looking at a sort of cipher substitution puzzle, and you need to figure out the keys.
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Box 10:
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How about them apples?
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I know, the hints are purposefully vague, but hopefully they may point you in the right direction.

(Amir, if you want to field this yourself, let me know, and I'll delete this.)

Shadow1000

I am absolutely loving this game. It is not easy by any means but I've actually gotten a good number of keys without hints.

I have 2 questions about puzzles that I THINK I have the solution but still can't crack:

1.
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The apple puzzle. I weighed the apples on the scale; that's not the solution. I divided by 2/3 because there are 3 apples in inventory but 2 on the iphone screen. That's not the solution either. Am I working missing something...?
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2.
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The colour puzzle. I ASSUME that the colours need to be arranged left to right as per the books on the shelf. However, I really can't tell what the colours of the books are or what colours the bars on the screen are. Am I guessing wrong or is there another way to solve this without being able to tell the colours visually?
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heltenjon

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Quote from: Shadow1000 on Wed 06/07/2022 20:46:23
I am absolutely loving this game. It is not easy by any means but I've actually gotten a good number of keys without hints.

I have 2 questions about puzzles that I THINK I have the solution but still can't crack:

1. The apple puzzle.
Spoiler
I weighed the apples on the scale; that's not the solution. I divided by 2/3 because there are 3 apples in inventory but 2 on the iphone screen. That's not the solution either. Am I working missing something...?
[close]
You did exactly what I did.  :-D There is another way. You may not want to look at the following hint until trying more stuff on your own. Vague:
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You need to do someting in the room before solving the puzzle.
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More direct:
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Can you bring the number of apples to the correct amount in any way?
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Quote2. The colour puzzle.
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I ASSUME that the colours need to be arranged left to right as per the books on the shelf. However, I really can't tell what the colours of the books are or what colours the bars on the screen are. Am I guessing wrong or is there another way to solve this without being able to tell the colours visually?
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Yes and no. You need to know what colours the bars are in order to sort them in the right order. I'll check it and edit in the information in this post.
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Edit: Here's the colour info for the colour blind:
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The bars, from top to bottom: blue, yellow, red, purple, green. The books, left to right: purple, red, green, yellow, blue.
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Wiggy

Thanks Heltonjohn for the vague hints - I got a little further, box 6 still eludes me. Back to the crossword dictionary to find 5 letter antonyms!

Shadow1000

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Quote from: heltenjon on Wed 06/07/2022 22:53:38
Quote from: Shadow1000 on Wed 06/07/2022 20:46:23
I am absolutely loving this game. It is not easy by any means but I've actually gotten a good number of keys without hints.

I have 2 questions about puzzles that I THINK I have the solution but still can't crack:

1. The apple puzzle.
Spoiler
I weighed the apples on the scale; that's not the solution. I divided by 2/3 because there are 3 apples in inventory but 2 on the iphone screen. That's not the solution either. Am I working missing something...?
[close]
You did exactly what I did.  :-D There is another way. You may not want to look at the following hint until trying more stuff on your own. Vague:
Spoiler
You need to do someting in the room before solving the puzzle.
[close]
More direct:
Spoiler
Can you bring the number of apples to the correct amount in any way?
[close]
Quote2. The colour puzzle.
Spoiler
I ASSUME that the colours need to be arranged left to right as per the books on the shelf. However, I really can't tell what the colours of the books are or what colours the bars on the screen are. Am I guessing wrong or is there another way to solve this without being able to tell the colours visually?
[close]
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Yes and no. You need to know what colours the bars are in order to sort them in the right order. I'll check it and edit in the information in this post.
[close]
Edit: Here's the colour info for the colour blind:
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The bars, from top to bottom: blue, yellow, red, purple, green. The books, left to right: purple, red, green, yellow, blue.
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Unfortunately that didn't help :(

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1. I took care of one of the apples and weighed the other two, but that's not the answer.

2. I arranged the bars as per your colour description on the books but it's a no go.

And one more: Box 11

No matter how or if you use BEDMAS, 9 X 6 / 2 -  7 = 20. But that's not the solution. What am I missing?
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I don't think I have even a guess for the boxes wiggy was asking about, even with the computer's hints and the ones you provided. I hope the game gets easier soon!

Thank you

Wiggy

Hiya Shadow 1000,

You are so close, you are on the right track - I hope this helps:

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Don't use the decimal point in the weight

The books have stripes on them - 1 to 5 stripes

Your maths is correct, but there are 2 numbers in every display i.e. 99 etc.
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heltenjon

Quote from: Shadow1000 on Thu 07/07/2022 05:32:48
I don't think I have even a guess for the boxes wiggy was asking about, even with the computer's hints and the ones you provided. I hope the game gets easier soon!
Does that mean you need hints for box 2 and 6?

Box 2:
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Nothing in the room is without purpose.
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Box 6:
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If you start the game in German, you may notice that this puzzle changes. There is a reason for that.
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Shadow1000

Quote from: Wiggy on Thu 07/07/2022 09:35:33
Hiya Shadow 1000,

You are so close, you are on the right track - I hope this helps:

Spoiler
Don't use the decimal point in the weight

The books have stripes on them - 1 to 5 stripes

Your maths is correct, but there are 2 numbers in every display i.e. 99 etc.
[close]

Hi Wiggy

Thanks, your hints helped!!
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the solution with the stripes makes sense. I was on the right track but missed that detail. As far as leaving out the decimal....well, I'm not sure how anyone would guess that other than a lot of trial and error. I guess if it had a number pad without decimal points or only allowed the correct number of digits I would have gotten it.
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Anyway, I solved all 3 with your help and I just finished the matching puzzle with just the hint from my computer

I find that I'm using my phone's camera a lot for reference for this game.

Thanks again!

Shadow1000

Quote from: heltenjon on Thu 07/07/2022 14:01:35
Quote from: Shadow1000 on Thu 07/07/2022 05:32:48
I don't think I have even a guess for the boxes wiggy was asking about, even with the computer's hints and the ones you provided. I hope the game gets easier soon!
Does that mean you need hints for box 2 and 6?

Box 2:
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Nothing in the room is without purpose.
[close]

Box 6:
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If you start the game in German, you may notice that this puzzle changes. There is a reason for that.
[close]

Yes, I am stuck on those. I'm going to try to continue the game later tonight. I only have 5 more boxes. I think I'll try to put together the hints here and on the computer and see if I can make any progress.

One question:
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do you need to be able to tell colours for the one where you put the suckers on? I already painting it but if colour is part of the solution then I have no chance at this one
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Wiggy

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The purple tentacle has green suction cups, while the green tentacle's are yellow and need to be painted green so you can use them.  The green hair dye was the middle one in the desk drawer, so if you picked them up sequentially it's the middle one in inventory. Use that one.  :-D

The actual puzzle requires no colour reference.

Shadow1000

Quote from: Wiggy on Thu 07/07/2022 17:29:22
The purple tentacle has green suction cups, while the green tentacle's are yellow and need to be painted green so you can use them.  The green hair dye was the middle one in the desk drawer, so if you picked them up sequentially it's the middle one in inventory. Use that one.  :-D

The actual puzzle requires no colour reference.

Ok I actually did paint them but didn't know if that's part of the solution. That's all I wanted to know, thanks!

Shadow1000

I only have 6 and 7 left.

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So, what I know about 6, completely from hints:
- It's a cipher puzzle
- There's a correlation between number and suit
- German edition has 4 cards whereas English has 5

I really don't have anything to work with. I guess it's a 5 letter word. Is it something found in the room? I don't even know what to ask!

The wording in puzzle 7 is poor. It starts off saying that everyone kissed one another and the question is how many times did IT kiss? what is "it"? A specific tentacle? then it should be 7. If it's all collectively then it's 8 tentacles kissing 7 times so it's 56. Neither is right, nor guesses like 49 or 64. I think the wording is misleading. What am I looking for?

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Wiggy

Yes it is poorly worded, The question is really "How many kisses in total were there?", given that each tentacle kissed all the others just once (no repeats).

I am still struggling with box 6, alas.

Shadow1000

Quote from: Wiggy on Fri 08/07/2022 05:34:12
Yes it is poorly worded, The question is really "How many kisses in total were there?", given that each tentacle kissed all the others just once (no repeats).

I am still struggling with box 6, alas.

Ok, solved! Only box 6 left :)

Thank you

Wiggy

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Keep us informed on how you go with box 6, because I am clueless here, I agree with your assessment of the puzzle - but I have absolutely no friggin' idea of how to proceed, and I've tried most substitutions of the 5 cards presented, and looked at the German version but to no avail. I'd like to set Amir a maths puzzle where the answer is expressed in ASCII text hexes. Aww, he'd probably get it.  :-X

heltenjon

Another hint for box 6:
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Solve each suit for itself.
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After the cipher, there are two more steps. If you're really unlucky, you've solved the cipher without noticing.  8-0

Amir

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I was checking the other thread every day. I totally forgot there is hints and tips. Without heltenjon's message I wouldn't have seen this at all. Thank you heltenjon. Of course I don't mind :)

Thank you guys for playing  :) And sorry for the torment  :-D But simple puzzles are boring I think  ;-D

Hmmmm box 6. as heltenjon said and..
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"correlation between number and suit" you have to collect letters from the names of the suits of the cards. which letters? you have to count. But be careful, you won't get the right word right away.
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Truly, truly, I say to you, blessed are those who play adventure games, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Shadow1000

Quote from: Amir on Fri 08/07/2022 15:16:11
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I was checking the other thread every day. I totally forgot there is hints and tips. Without heltenjon's message I wouldn't have seen this at all. Thank you heltenjon. Of course I don't mind :)

Thank you guys for playing  :) And sorry for the torment  :-D But simple puzzles are boring I think  ;-D

Hmmmm box 6. as heltenjon said and..
Spoiler
"correlation between number and suit" you have to collect letters from the names of the suits of the cards. which letters? you have to count. But be careful, you won't get the right word right away.
[close]

Hi Amir

Thanks for stepping in here. Got it and completed the game!!!

Amir

Quote from: Shadow1000 on Fri 08/07/2022 16:04:27
Quote from: Amir on Fri 08/07/2022 15:16:11
8-0 8-0 8-0
I was checking the other thread every day. I totally forgot there is hints and tips. Without heltenjon's message I wouldn't have seen this at all. Thank you heltenjon. Of course I don't mind :)

Thank you guys for playing  :) And sorry for the torment  :-D But simple puzzles are boring I think  ;-D

Hmmmm box 6. as heltenjon said and..
Spoiler
"correlation between number and suit" you have to collect letters from the names of the suits of the cards. which letters? you have to count. But be careful, you won't get the right word right away.
[close]

Hi Amir

Thanks for stepping in here. Got it and completed the game!!!

"APPLAUSE"   (nod)
Truly, truly, I say to you, blessed are those who play adventure games, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

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