New "Black Stories" Crime Riddles

Riaise · Sat 29/08/2020 19:25:44

OK, so Barney strangled the lover with the rope he was going to use to hang himself, but was not significantly injured in the process. Nor was he poisoned or die from some kind of gas inhalation.

Did Barney trip over the body and hit his head?
Had the lover somehow caused a fire to start that burned Barney to death?
Did Barney drown?

(That last one's a long shot, but maybe he fell in the bath?

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heltenjon · Sat 29/08/2020 20:56:53

Case #65

In the home of Barney and Greta we find two dead bodies and a note on the floor.
What happened here?

YES
Are Barney and Greta human?
Are the dead bodies human?
Did either Barney or Greta write the note?
Is Barney one of the dead bodies?
Is the note a suicide note?
Was the note written before the two people died?
Are either of the dead bodies the victims of murder?
Did Barney write the note?
Is jealousy involved?
Did the non-Greta dead person kill Barney?
Did Barney kill the non-Greta person?
Is Greta still alive?
Did Barney really intend to kill himself?
Were Barney and Greta a couple?
Is the unknown victim an adult?
Did the unknown victim kill Barney?
Was the second victim Greta's lover?
Did Barney think the second victim was Greta's lover?
Did Greta have a lover?
Did Barney kill the other victim deliberately?
Were both bodies found in the same room?
Was either victim strangled? Technically, yes.
Was Barney planning to hang himself?
Was the other victim strangled with a rope?
Was an object used to kill the lover? (See above.)
Was the lover fully dressed?
Did the lover come home looking for Greta?
Did he surprise Barney during his suicide?
Is Barney's and Greta's home a house?
Did Barney hang the lover?

NO
Is Greta one of the dead bodies?
Did Greta write the note?
Is the second victim female?
Did Barney kill Greta?
Did Greta kill Barney?
Did either of the dead people actually commit suicide?
Did Barney write the suicide note so that people would think it had been written by Greta?
Did Greta write the suicide note so that people would think it had been written by Barney?
Did the non-Greta dead person write the suicide note to appear to be from either Barney or Greta?
Did either Barney of Greta write the suicide note to appear to be from the non-Greta dead person?
Does Greta know what really happened?
Were Barney and non-Greta lovers?
Did Barney make a promise to leave Greta?
Did Barney and the second victim die the same way?
Does Greta benefit from their deaths?
Is there a fourth person involved?
Did the killer force Barney to write the note?
Did Greta announce to leave Barney?
Was Greta at home when the two victims died?
Was the second victim's death caused by the first person's death ?(Regardless of who died first) A bit unsure what you mean here.
Was Barney's plan to kill Greta instead of the other victim?
Did Barney AND the other person both poison a meal they were sharing? (Great suggestion, though.)
Was the second victim there to kill Barney?
Did Barney and the second victim die in a duel ?
Did the other victim kill Barney deliberately?
Was either victim stabbed?
Did Barney invite the lover for a "chat"?
Did Barney know the lover?
Was Barney's plan to kill him?
Was Barney's plan to implicate the wife in the murder?
Every line in Mandle's solution.
Did Barney die BEFORE the other victim died?
Was Barney strangled?
Was one of the deaths caused by poison?
Was one of the deaths caused by a gunshot?
Was one of the deaths caused by gas?
Is Barney one of a pair of conjoined twins?
Was Barney hit over the head with a heavy object?
Did the victim get strangled by hand, i.e. manually?
When Barney killed the other victim (which should be clear), was he already
so badly injured that he knew he would die?
Was an object used to kill Barney? (Not directly, at least.)
Did Barney surprise the lover? (has in he come early home and found him there?)
Was the lover wearing only underwear?
Is Barney's and Greta's home an apartment?
Is it a boat/ship?
Did Barney trip over the body and hit his head? (No, but close)
Had the lover somehow caused a fire to start that burned Barney to death?
Did Barney drown?
Did Barney wrap loops of the rope around the lover's neck and then jump off the chair, hanging himself and choking the lover to death at the same time with his own hanging body weight?
Did the ceiling collapse on Barney?
Did the lover strive to make something collapse or fall on Barney?
Was the lover overweight?

IRRELEVANT OR CANNOT BE ANSWERED THE WAY THE QUESTION IS POSED
Are Barney and Greta still alive?
Were the two victims related to each other?
Did they look like each other ?
Did the dead body fall on Barney and trap him somehow? (Perhaps, but Barney was already dead by then.)

Quote from: Riaise on Sat 29/08/2020 19:25:44
OK, so Barney strangled the lover with the rope he was going to use to hang himself, but was not significantly injured in the process. Nor was he poisoned or die from some kind of gas inhalation.

You sum it up almost correct!

Mandle · Sat 29/08/2020 23:02:17

Did Barney wrap loops of the rope around the lover's neck and then jump off the chair, hanging himself and choking the lover to death at the same time with his own hanging body weight?

heltenjon · Sun 30/08/2020 02:17:51

Quote from: Mandle on Sat 29/08/2020 23:02:17
Did Barney wrap loops of the rope around the lover's neck and then jump off the chair, hanging himself and choking the lover to death at the same time with his own hanging body weight?

No, but I wish I had thought of that! That's an even better solution than the correct one.

Riaise · Sun 30/08/2020 19:34:38

Quote from: heltenjon on Sat 29/08/2020 20:56:53
Quote from: Riaise on Sat 29/08/2020 19:25:44
OK, so Barney strangled the lover with the rope he was going to use to hang himself, but was not significantly injured in the process. Nor was he poisoned or die from some kind of gas inhalation.

You sum it up almost correct!

But I can't quite work out that last little bit.

Did the dead body fall on Barney and trap him somehow?

heltenjon · Sun 30/08/2020 21:41:40

You are so very close to the solution! I'll nudge a bit:

Did the non-Greta dead person kill Barney?

Did Barney trip over the body and hit his head? (No, but close)
Was an object used to kill Barney? (Not directly, at least.)
Did the other victim kill Barney deliberately?

Mandle · Sun 30/08/2020 22:09:00

Did Barney hang the lover?
Did the ceiling collapse on Barney?
Did the lover strive to make something collapse or fall on Barney?
Was the lover overweight?

heltenjon · Sun 30/08/2020 23:58:22

Updated answers above.

Mandle · Mon 31/08/2020 00:12:29

Did the lover somehow manage to kill Barney while they, themself, were hanging?

heltenjon · Mon 31/08/2020 00:34:46

Quote from: Mandle on Mon 31/08/2020 00:12:29
Did the lover somehow manage to kill Barney while they, themself, were hanging?

Yes!

Mandle · Mon 31/08/2020 00:43:11

Did the hanging lover kick Barney?
Did Barney fall onto an object that killed him?
Did the hanging lover use their legs to strangle Barney?
Did the hanging lover somehow swing into Barney, hitting him with their body?

heltenjon · Mon 31/08/2020 02:48:46

Solved

Barney was unhappy when he found out that Greta was having an affair, and he decided to end it all. He wrote a suicide note and made the rope ready to hang himself. Then, all of a sudden, Greta's lover walked in. The balls of this guy! In a rage, Barney attacked him. With surprise and adrenaline on his side, Barney managed to subdue the loverboy, forcing his head into the noose and hoisting him up. Like a one-man lynch mob, he made sure that swift justice was served. The man was struggling wildly, kicking in the air. A random kick hit Barney in the head, sending him right into the edge of a table. And there they were, two dead men for Greta to discover when she came home.

Over to the next one with a case ready!

Mandle · Mon 31/08/2020 08:14:17

Case #66

A passenger's dead body, let's call him "Ben", was identified at the scene of a plane crash, but the investigator knew something was amiss. What happened?

YES
Was the passenger, Ben, a passenger on a different plane than the one that crashed?
Was the plane a small plane? (Cessna, Piper, etc.)
Was the plane torn apart on impact? (To some extent, yes)
Did anyone else die in the plane crash?
Was the investigator an aviation crash scene investigator? (NTSB or similar)

NO
Was Ben a passenger on a different kind of transport?
Was the plane a commercial airliner? (Boeing 747, Airbus A300, etc.)
Was the plane a private jet?
Did the plane crash on takeoff?
Did the plane crash on landing?
Did the crash take place within the confines of an airport?
Was there a distress signal sent from the plane before the crash?
Was Ben killed in a way that can't be explained by injuries sustained in the crash? (Shot, stabbed, strangled, etc)
Was the passenger's (Ben's) body identified by a loved one?
Was the investigator a police detective?

IRRELEVANT OR CANNOT BE ANSWERED THE WAY THE QUESTION IS POSED

JackPutter · Mon 31/08/2020 09:31:03

Was the passenger, Ben, a passenger on a different plane than the one that crashed?
Was Ben a passenger on a different kind of transport?
Was the plane a commercial airliner? (Boeing 747, Airbus A300, etc.)
Was the plane a private jet?
Was the plane a small plane? (Cessna, Piper, etc.)
Was the plane torn apart on impact?
Did the plane crash on takeoff?
Did the plane crash on landing?
Did the crash take place within the confines of an airport?
Was there a distress signal sent from the plane before the crash?
Did anyone else die in the plane crash?
Was Ben killed in a way that can't be explained by injuries sustained in the crash? (Shot, stabbed, strangled, etc)
Was the passenger's (Ben's) body identified by a loved one?
Was the investigator an aviation crash scene investigator? (NTSB or similar)
Was the investigator a police detective?

Mandle · Mon 31/08/2020 09:36:11

Answered above

JackPutter · Mon 31/08/2020 09:47:10

Were two planes involved in the crash?
Was there a mid-air collision?
Did a crime take place?
Was the crash accidental?
Was Ben's body found inside the wreckage of a plane?
Did Ben jump out of one plane and get hit by another, causing the crash?

Mandle · Mon 31/08/2020 10:23:48

Quote from: JackPutter on Mon 31/08/2020 09:47:10
Did Ben jump out of one plane and get hit by another, causing the crash?

Yup, round over.

JackPutter · Mon 31/08/2020 10:32:19

Wow, a lightning round! All those years of watching Air Crash Investigation have finally paid off!

I don't have any ideas for another case so feel free to post another!

Laura Hunt · Mon 31/08/2020 10:40:03

Can anybody start a new case, or is it always whoever solved the previous one? I might have something but I think I'd rather polish it up a bit before throwing it out there...

Mandle · Mon 31/08/2020 10:57:50

Quote from: Laura Hunt on Mon 31/08/2020 10:40:03
Can anybody start a new case, or is it always whoever solved the previous one? I might have something but I think I'd rather polish it up a bit before throwing it out there...

It's anyone really, unless the winner specifically reserves the right I suppose.