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The problem did not come from redirect pages, it's just because he changed the caps in the titles of articles, which made the ''original'' pages to be redirect pages, what I did was just restoring these pages to their original (identical and capitalized) titles and delete those redirect pages left which ''weren't linked to by any other articles''. -- [[User:Gilbert|Gilbot]] 03:33, 10 December 2005 (CET)
 
The problem did not come from redirect pages, it's just because he changed the caps in the titles of articles, which made the ''original'' pages to be redirect pages, what I did was just restoring these pages to their original (identical and capitalized) titles and delete those redirect pages left which ''weren't linked to by any other articles''. -- [[User:Gilbert|Gilbot]] 03:33, 10 December 2005 (CET)
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*I don't really have a more tactful way of putting this, but you're rather obviously new to wiki editing, and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Radiant%21 I'm not]. This is precisely what [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect redirects] are for. If people create an article with an improperly spelled or improperly capitalized title, then the wiki can be improved by fixing that mistake. If there happened to be links to the original, the redirect will fix it ''without anybody noticing''. They click on the (also improperly spelled or capitalized) link and end up at the proper page.
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*For instance, when I renamed "Lens Flare", I fixed the (single) link going there because that link was also miscapitalized. When you undid my rename, you didn't fix it so you actually broke the (now properly spelled) link, forcing someone else to change it back to an improperly spelled link to make it work again. The problem is in you deleting useful redirects (and in you reverting other people's work for no good reason), not in any use of the move function. This is, frankly, not very useful.
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*<font color="blue">[[User talk:Radiant|Radiant]]</font> <i>([http://taleoftwokingdoms.com ATOTK])</i> 12:42, 10 December 2005 (CET)

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Hey, what's the deal with moving all pages to Capitalize Every Single Word? It seems more appropriate to use sentence case when dealing with normal terms (as opposed to proper nouns, which should of course be capitalized). Radiant (ATOTK) 15:28, 8 December 2005 (CET)

Because:

  1. It's not really necessary to change them if they're capitalized, moreover, you didn't change all the pages, so for example in the BFAQ half of them fixed, and the other half not, which creates even more inconsistensies, moreover, there're already pages linking to them.
  2. Moving (renaming) a page leaves lots of crap redirect pages, which is a pain to clean them off (and sometimes when you remove one redirect page some link may be broken).

-- Gilbot 02:19, 9 December 2005 (CET)

  • Isn't that the whole point of redirects, that you can redirect some title to Some Title or vice versa, so that people won't mess up links if they don't know how exactly to spell them? I think on Wikipedia about 40% of the pages are redirects now. Radiant (ATOTK) 02:42, 9 December 2005 (CET)


But still, there's no point to mess with the capitalizations, especially when they're article titles. -- Gilbot 02:43, 9 December 2005 (CET)

  • Proper grammar is important. Radiant (ATOTK) 12:25, 9 December 2005 (CET)

That's not with proper grammar, as they're titles, I don't think it's worth wasting time in such minor matters. -- Gilbot 12:26, 9 December 2005 (CET)

  • Wait, let me get this straight... you consider fixing minor mistakes a waste of time, so if other people spend some time fixing minor mistakes you will actually undo their work and put back the mistake? Radiant (ATOTK) 13:00, 9 December 2005 (CET)

Because they're not even mistakes, please calm down. -- Gilbot 13:02, 9 December 2005 (CET)


Sorry, Gil, but I agree with Radiant. Its silly to delete Redirect pages unless there is actually a difference in meaning between the pages. --SSH 14:52, 9 December 2005 (CET)

The problem did not come from redirect pages, it's just because he changed the caps in the titles of articles, which made the original pages to be redirect pages, what I did was just restoring these pages to their original (identical and capitalized) titles and delete those redirect pages left which weren't linked to by any other articles. -- Gilbot 03:33, 10 December 2005 (CET)

  • I don't really have a more tactful way of putting this, but you're rather obviously new to wiki editing, and I'm not. This is precisely what redirects are for. If people create an article with an improperly spelled or improperly capitalized title, then the wiki can be improved by fixing that mistake. If there happened to be links to the original, the redirect will fix it without anybody noticing. They click on the (also improperly spelled or capitalized) link and end up at the proper page.
  • For instance, when I renamed "Lens Flare", I fixed the (single) link going there because that link was also miscapitalized. When you undid my rename, you didn't fix it so you actually broke the (now properly spelled) link, forcing someone else to change it back to an improperly spelled link to make it work again. The problem is in you deleting useful redirects (and in you reverting other people's work for no good reason), not in any use of the move function. This is, frankly, not very useful.
  • Radiant (ATOTK) 12:42, 10 December 2005 (CET)