Insomnia?

Started by Tuomas, Thu 27/09/2007 00:58:27

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Tuomas

I don't know if I should go see a doctor or just have a warm glass of milk, but I've been having a really hard time falling asleep lately. Lately being at least 2 weeks. I find myself spinning around in my bed for hours and finally giving up at 3am feeling more awake than before. I usually fall asleep after 5am.

This doesn't make sense as I feel more and more tired every day. It just feels like every night when I try to fall asleep, my head is filled with thoughts and issues, and I just can't seem to relax. Usually music helps, but nowadays I find no comfort there whatsoever. And I know I've got a lot in my mind.

I've been rejected from recieving student money as a form of social security, the state considers me as unemployed, not a fulltime student, this due to me being in the army for a month earlier. How ever the working ministry considers me a full time student and thus I recieve no money. The state is willing to help me, but they require that I seek for some kind of help from the city, while that I can only get if I first ask the state. All this means I can't work at all, otherwise I'll lose the money, and get the salary, which in my position would be less than enough. Besides I'm having a har time finding a job seeing as how I'm moving on to do my civil service on January.

Someone told me I should drink myself to sleep. Well it's hard with no money for drinking. Also, I did that last saturday, but never got to sleep, because I spent that night hand in hand with the most wondrful girl on this earth, and now I'm waiting to meet her again on 5th next month, which is also an image I can't get out of my head.

I simply cannot relax anymore. I feel enthusiastic but yet downbeat. It's like something is going on but nothing is happening, and as if it was all stuck in my head. I simply started wondering today when it's really been 2 weeks with practically no sleep at all, that everything must not be ok, but I don't know how to help it. I've tried doing sports, but it's really hard to go joggin when you're so bloody tired all the time. What's more, I've started getting cramps in my jaws, which often happens when I'm under a lot of stress. can it really be that I should visit the doctor just in case?

Tuomas-

Domino

#1
Go see your doctor, he/she might be able to prescribe something for you that will help you sleep.

You can also try over the counter sleeping pills.

I am on Valium for my anxiety, and usually 1 5 mg pill will get me drowsy and help me sleep.  If needed 2 of them.

Good luck and hopefully happy dreams.

edit: It also sounds like you might have the early stages of depression, which i also have.  Sometimes my mind races so much that is is too hard to relax.


Radiant

Do you do sports?

Andail

There can be a hundred causes for insomnia, and giving generic advice is very hard without knowing your medical history, so to speak.
Radiant brought up sport; regular physical activity might be the single most effective remedy for curing insomnia, and also for releasing that sort of stress which makes your jaws cramp and teeth grind.

Also, it's good to be active in the mornings and get plenty of sunlight and impressions during the early day, and then gradually unwind as the evening comes.
We are genetically designed to live like humans did some 10000 years ago (since our DNA hasn't changed much since) and those people recieved a lot of sensory input during the morning hours (while preparing for the hunt, and running around vast fields tracking beasts) but not so much after dark, when it was very hard to perform any duties, and the visual impressions were scarce.

Some studies have shown that if you live isolated for longer periods, even getting up early just to watch TV (as long as there are life-sized talking heads, like in news programs or debates or similar) can be sufficient to satisfy your brain's need for social, visual feedback. Concordingly, watching the same programs late at night has the reversed effect, and will only ruin your chances for a good night's sleep.

In the end it's all very personal and everyone needs to find their personal recipe for how to live their life.

Engaging in a relationship is a sure-fired way of not getting much sleep, though :) At least not in the beginning...why sleep when you can love all night?

zabnat

Occasionally I have similiar problems. Try meditating, look into different methods of clearing your mind and relaxing. Works for me usually.

Nikolas

any kind of issue, for which you're worried about, can cause you insomnia. I've had it before, because of tons of work, and anxiety. It just happens to most people, and when problems stop, insomnia stops as well. If it keeps on happening then there is a problem, that needs a doctor.

But exams, financial issues, new place to live, etc, can all cause insomnia, as far as I know.

Tackling it, could be just reffering to some "normal" activities that you no longer do. A walk, a bit of chat, a telephone call every night, a glass of wine/beer/milk/whatever. I actually HAD to sleep every day for 3-4 hours over August, because of tons of work, and no more, but either way I couldn't even do that, but knowing I would probably screw up if I didn't I ended up in drinking chocholate milk. Not a serious suggestion, but it worked for me. 5 minutes, and I was down, wherever, be it the coach or the bed...

good luck :)

Tuomas

Quote from: Andail on Thu 27/09/2007 09:57:16
There can be a hundred causes for insomnia, and giving generic advice is very hard without knowing your medical history, so to speak.
Radiant brought up sport; regular physical activity might be the single most effective remedy for curing insomnia, and also for releasing that sort of stress which makes your jaws cramp and teeth grind.

I don't really have a medical history. Sure, I have a lot of allergies (food, pollen, animals) but that and rutine has been the only reasons I've ever been to hospital. I used to play ice-hockey on a professional level without injuries, that was some years ago, nowadays I go jogging some 2-3 times a week, but I can't really say I'd do any regular sport.

Quoteto be active in the mornings and get plenty of sunlight and impressions during the early day, and then gradually unwind as the evening comes.

there's no sunlight in Finland :) No actually, I do wake up early so that I could even up my circadian rythm, and them I'm tired the whole day except for the night :S

QuoteEngaging in a relationship is a sure-fired way of not getting much sleep, though :) At least not in the beginning...why sleep when you can love all night?

yeah, not that much sweet sweet love making yet but there's a 40km reason for that. Though I realise that I don't even want to look at women anymore, I used to turn my head around after everyone and whistle to every third at least, now I don't even check them out. Nor do I feel like watching porn, which by the way isn't such a surprise. Maybe I should masturbate more in order to relax ;) though I donät feel like it...

Seriously though, today has been really busy. I've already cycled 30 km with my bicycle, spread out leftlets at the marketplace for 2 hours, helped my grandpa fix his car and soon I'm off with my dad to cycle to see some football. But filling my day with all these activities feels so good. I mean, I really haven't thought of anything bad today, at least not like I usually too. It's like it's pushed aside.

It's my mother's birthday on saturday, so I'm going therefor the weekend, and I'm so looking forward to it, o detach myself from everyday life. Though not as anxious as waiting for the saturday after that when I have a date with the said girl :D

Sparky

It sounds like you've got a good attitude about things in general, even if not everything is going the way you want it to right now. I'm sure things will change soon if you keep trying and stay optimistic.

As for insomnia, I had minor trouble sleeping a few months ago. For me the problem was depression- eventually things started looking up and I can sleep normally now. I don't know if you've had any history of depression, but if so it might be as simple as that. Otherwise I hope someone else's suggestion or your doctor sheds some light on the situation. Best wishes!

Tuomas

Cheers mate. I'm going back home for the weekend, see if I can get my mind fixed and emptied, it's my mum's birthday so that's a good excuse to run away. Anyway, I talked to my dad, and thought I'd go see a doc on monday if it's not gone by then... It's not like I feel depressed in the real sense of the word, I mean, everyone's depressed at times, but as something serious, depression is way more than mine.

Khris

Eight and a half years. That's got to be in the top ten.

AnasAbdin

I prefer if you see a doctor.
But you do seem stressed. And you have the right to, you're going through a hard time. Maybe some would think it's not that bad, but your mind and body think otherwise. I had a little similar issue since my dad is very ill, I usually sleep with my bedroom door closed but not anymore. I have to keep my ears alert all the time for emergencies which we get more often. It did affect my biological clock and gave me sleeping disorders. I didn't see a doctor though.

This is how I beat the condition:

1. Sports specially heavy weight lefting.
2. Don't go to bed unless I'm totally sleepy.
3. If I woke up and couldn't go back to sleep, I leave bed.
4. Never keep your phone or other devices near your bed.
5. Very cliché but hot cocoa works ;)

hope you sort this out buddy.

Crimson Wizard

AnasAbdin,
This thread is almost NINE years old.

Cassiebsg

I'm sure he'll still appreciate the advice though... think 9 years or insomnia? That's _a lot_ of hours! (roll)
There are those who believe that life here began out there...

David Ostman

Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Mon 21/03/2016 15:49:40
AnasAbdin,
This thread is almost NINE years old.
Blame it on Olga1 the Spam Robot (laugh)

AnasAbdin


Danvzare

Maybe someone should lock the thread.

selmiak

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