Character skips

Oz · Sun 21/11/2004 20:08:57

This was supposedly fixed in 2.62 beta, but I still get skipping (using 2.62 final). I've tried different speeds (although I really need the lowest speed possible for the game i'm working on) with no positive results. I've been testing this quite thoroughly and I think that it only happens when you move the character manually using the mouse. I have not yet seen it happen when using any of the MoveCharacter commands. Any news on this?

Oz · Tue 30/11/2004 03:16:22

*BUMP*

Anything new on this?

Pumaman · Tue 30/11/2004 20:04:07

Hmm, as far as I was aware this was fixed in 2.62.

If it's still a problem, any chance you could post a small game that demonstrates the problem?

Oz · Wed 01/12/2004 14:03:34

Sure, here it is:

http://hem.bredband.net/jericho/Compiled.rar

You might have to move the char around a bit to actually catch the skipping, it seems to happen at random. Watch closely as the char approaches its destination.

All I did was load the default game and set the character speed to 1 and the animation speed to 1 (which are the settings I use for my own game). Note that skipping does NOT occur when using the default movement/animation speed settings, and as far as I can see it does not occur when using any of the MoveCharacter commands. I hope this helps!

Oz · Wed 01/12/2004 14:16:52

I tried changing the movement speed to 3 and there seems to be no skipping. This would be a workaround, but I really need the lowest movement speed possible for my game because of the small scale. Otherwise the player will move around the screen too quickly, and it will look odd.

Rui 'Trovatore' Pires · Wed 01/12/2004 14:24:01

Silly question, I suppose... but does it still skip when you use the "automatic speed change with scaling" thingy instead of setting the speed yourself?

Oz · Wed 01/12/2004 14:39:23

Ah, no. I'm not using area scaling. I've drawn the graphics for the game at a small scale. The character is only 16x16 pixels (top-down game).

Pumaman · Wed 01/12/2004 20:10:11

Well, I had a bit of a click around and didn't really notice anything. The closest I saw was a tiny (perhaps 2-3 pixel) skip if you do an almost-but-not-quite-vertical move; is this what you're referring to, or is there something more?

Oz · Wed 01/12/2004 23:36:38

The length of the skip seems to vary. From barely noticeable to around 5 pixels or so. It looks really weird in my game at least, maybe because the character sprite is so small. But like I said, it doesn't happen when using a higher movement speed, unfortunately that is not an option for me...

Scummbuddy · Thu 02/12/2004 02:39:20

could this be a good use of the Record Game ability? Since its not really documented, I can't exactly remember all about it.

Oz · Thu 02/12/2004 14:16:09

Quote from: Scummbuddy on Thu 02/12/2004 02:39:20
could this be a good use of the Record Game ability? Since its not really documented, I can't exactly remember all about it.

Sounds interesting? Any further info on this? Might be useful to demonstrate the problem (if not yet obvious).

strazer · Thu 02/12/2004 14:53:59

Try pressing [ALT]+[R].

Oz · Fri 03/12/2004 03:47:29

Okay, here is a recording (i think!) of the skipping. The character skips a couple of times in a row when moved down across the screen in this replay. How do you play back an .agr-replay btw?

http://hem.bredband.net/jericho/skip.agr

I hope this helps.

strazer · Fri 03/12/2004 03:52:40

Afaik, with the setup program, under >> Advanced.
But of course, he needs your game, too. Recordings are no videos.

Gilbert · Fri 03/12/2004 03:56:33

I don't know, but it looks quite minor to me, acceptable for me at least.

Oz · Fri 03/12/2004 13:09:57

Quote from: strazer on Fri 03/12/2004 03:52:40
Afaik, with the setup program, under >> Advanced.
But of course, he needs your game, too. Recordings are no videos.

Yeah. I used the game that I uploaded earlier to record the replay (http://hem.bredband.net/jericho/Compiled.rar).

Gilbot,

I guess it's a matter of opinion, but my character is a lot smaller than Roger, so the skip gets bigger, sort of. It looks odd, and feels jerky.

Pumaman · Fri 03/12/2004 23:22:22

Ok then -- this is sort of a known issue; v2.62 fixed a more serious skipping which happened in some situations.

I'll look into this to see if I can resolve it once and for all.

Oz · Sat 04/12/2004 00:27:10

That sounds great! Thanks CJ, and good luck.

Pumaman · Sun 12/12/2004 18:28:37

Ok, I've made some changes in 2.7 beta 6. Try it out on a backup copy of your game and see if it helps.

Oz · Sun 12/12/2004 22:05:55

Quote from: Pumaman on Sun 12/12/2004 18:28:37
Ok, I've made some changes in 2.7 beta 6. Try it out on a backup copy of your game and see if it helps.

It's better now, but still some skipping occurs. Nothing I can't live with though.