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Title: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: on Fri 14/05/2004 22:38:11
 ;D I have a new way of creating Adventure Games! Instead of walking from room to room, you're a comic character, so the end of the room is the side or bottom of a panel and you can jump across it!
   Sometimes if you place a bomb by a panel strip it blows up!

WHADDYA THINK???
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Fri 14/05/2004 22:39:05
Like that game Comix Zone?
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Mr Flibble on Fri 14/05/2004 22:42:19
I hate when people get shot down like that.
I bet his ego bruises like a summer fruit.

Actually I think its a bad idea.
FAR too linear.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Chicky on Fri 14/05/2004 22:44:39
ohh mann, i remeber a game like that. may be comix zone. It was great fun. I really wanna get my maands on that game again
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: DragonRose on Sat 15/05/2004 00:05:38
Quote from: Mr Flibble on Fri 14/05/2004 22:42:19
FAR too linear.

Actually, I don't think that this would NEED to be linear. You could go back over a panel to get to a different view, or go up or down rather than just left to right.

Though it's kind of an interesting idea, I don't really see how it could be used in an adventure game. It might be very cool in an action game, though.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Scummbuddy on Sat 15/05/2004 05:20:38
I'm sure he was blatanly ripping off Comix Zone on purpose. Its not a new way of games. I hope you were going for some weird sort of laugh from us, instead of actually thinking you came up with it.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: MrColossal on Sat 15/05/2004 07:33:12
jeez, how do you know he didn't come up with it on his own?

not everyone has played or knows about Comix Zone, give the guy a break maybe?
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: BOYD1981 on Sat 15/05/2004 07:36:21
yeh, let's break his legs! wooh!
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Haddas on Sat 15/05/2004 07:36:56
I haven't played comix zone for one thing
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: .. on Sat 15/05/2004 11:12:13
Am i the only one to think this is in the wrong place? Although he may be wanting critisism on his idea he doesn't really have anything to show for it rather that a few lines.

This could be a good idea, in fact its just given me an idea for a level in my game.

Would this have to be one big room though? How would you sort out the problems with objects etc.

I've never heard of Comix Zone until now, myself :P

Good idea though
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: HillBilly on Sat 15/05/2004 14:42:07
Bombs and adventure games don't mix! Think about the children.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: on Sat 15/05/2004 15:46:47
Yep, I got the game from Comix Zone... Sega Genises 3.

I love that game. But my version is in AGS form
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Phemar on Sat 15/05/2004 20:52:50

Flippin hell, what is wrong with you people?

This is the one thing I friggin hate about the AGS community, just because someone who happens to have been around shorter than you have, doesn't mean you have every right in the world to go and rip on them for every bit of idea they try and conribute...

O yaeh, I think this is in the wrong place.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: BOYD1981 on Sun 16/05/2004 05:40:10
yeh? well what's wrong with all you people that aren't moderators ACTING like you are?

also, shut up n00b  :D

also 2: the sequel, it's not much of a thought out idea, all he's done is taken an idea used in another game and made a small post in here and tried to pass it off as his own "new" idea without actually making anything, such as a mock-up of how it might look and/or work.
man, if i made a thread everytime i had an idea for a game i'd end up with my own forum!

Also III: Revenge of The Also Queen, an idea like that might work, but you'd probably only want to use it once and use it well, so you'd have to make sure it was a decent length and quality game, it'd probably take more effort than it's worth.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Mats Berglinn on Sun 16/05/2004 12:58:40
QuoteBombs and adventure games don't mix! Think about the children.

Hillbilly, you must have a bad fall. There have been lot of explosives and explosions in many adveture games so what's so bad about that? Look at the MI-games, Night of the Hermit, Phleurgburg, Sam & Max and other adventure games had explosives and explosions, so what harm can posibly be.

Back to topic, I don't think that would work, it would be tricky to script and also be hard to make backgrounds for that kind of thing. Besides, in adventure games you're much more likely to revist a lot of places and comics doesn't work like that (maybe in story telling but not in the terms of adventure games).
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: BOYD1981 on Sun 16/05/2004 12:59:31
i think he was using something known as sarcasm
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Rui 'Trovatore' Pires on Sun 16/05/2004 20:00:55
Methinks we should keep the comic-book format to cutscenes, like Gabriel Knight taught us, and like a few AGS games has very nicely reproduced, games like Pleurghburg, Chez Apa... but an entire adventure game system?

Now, if you did something comic-STYLE, like say, having those dialogue balloons appear when someone is talking and using lots of sentences used to describe sound ( a big, red BLAM!, for instance), it may come out pretty, pretty neat. But as Boyd said,

Quoteit'd probably take more effort than it's worth.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: HillBilly on Sun 16/05/2004 21:33:38
Quote from: Mats Berglinn on Sun 16/05/2004 12:58:40
QuoteBombs and adventure games don't mix! Think about the children.

Hillbilly, you must have a bad fall. There have been lot of explosives and explosions in many adveture games so what's so bad about that? Look at the MI-games, Night of the Hermit, Phleurgburg, Sam & Max and other adventure games had explosives and explosions, so what harm can posibly be.

Don't take me too serious. I was just kidding around. Explosives is good for the children(see? I did it again, silly me).
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Mats Berglinn on Mon 17/05/2004 13:02:10
Quote from: redruM on Sun 16/05/2004 20:00:55

Now, if you did something comic-STYLE, like say, having those dialogue balloons appear when someone is talking and using lots of sentences used to describe sound ( a big, red BLAM!, for instance), it may come out pretty, pretty neat. But as Boyd said,

Quoteit'd probably take more effort than it's worth.

Speaking of that, Adventures of Fatman: Toxic Revenge did used some big BLAM comictexts when explosions occur (together sound-effect).
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Davis on Mon 17/05/2004 19:29:32
Quote from: Zor© on Sat 15/05/2004 20:52:50Flippin hell, what is wrong with you people?

This is the one thing I friggin hate about the AGS community, just because someone who happens to have been around shorter than you have, doesn't mean you have every right in the world to go and rip on them for every bit of idea they try and conribute...

The one thing I hate is how touchy feely some of you are. The dude said something stupid and no one told him he was great for it. Big deal. Just because someone doesn't like someone's idea doesn't mean they hate that person and would kick them if they had the chance. The way everyone rushes to everyone's side when people don't like their idea makes this place feel like a police state. Freedom of speech should go both ways, if I can say, "Dude I'm going to make a game about a rabbit in a suit and a small dog and they'll solve crimes," and you're allowed to say, "I think you're a beautiful person for suggesting that," someone else should have the right to call me an idiot.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: on Mon 17/05/2004 21:12:16
Davis, you're a f***ing idiot.

::)

I'd like to see an AGS comic book style game though, I think it could be fun to play. Though, would you have to break out of every box with bits of storyline occuring in each box? Would you only have to solve how to get out of the first box and then the story continues, etc. I haven't played the game people had mentioned which is similar to this idea so I have no idea how it'd work in an adventure game setting.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Davis on Tue 18/05/2004 01:29:58
Well that is your opinion sir, and while I certainly do not agree I will defend to the death your right to say it!

As for the game, it was a lame Genesis side scroller where you A B buttoned your way across a "panel," where the background was some comicy looking environment and when you reached the white line, you just jumped it into the next panel, where you would fight some more bad guys. A la Double Dragon, Battle Toads, Marky Mark's Funky Fighting Adventure featuring the Fighting Funky Bunch... you know, the old classics.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Scummbuddy on Tue 18/05/2004 01:33:28
Davis, I believe he was joking.
And I quite like the game. But the only reason I reacted is that he tried to say that it was his idea first. If he just said he was trying to emulate, or make a sequel to Comix Zone, I would have been fine. And yes, this has been done before Comix Zone, but if you've played the game, you would understand the blantant rip-off.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: Davis on Tue 18/05/2004 03:12:25
I think he was joking too, but I'm not sure. Either way, it's so hard to tell how someone meant something to sound on a message board, or online chat.

I meant 'Well that is your opinion sir, and while I certainly do not agree I will defend to the death your right to say it!' to be "read" to sound as if a foppish troubadour were saying it, like the fat moustached chef on the Simpsons who always says, "Mmmmmyyyyyyeeeesssss!!"

Also, another fine point. If he had said, "Dude Comix Zone is like my favorite game, and I think finding a way to translate it's gameplay into AGS would be double awesome! Also a Captain Planet game would be triple awesome!" I think people would have reacted differently.
Title: Re: A new way of games--tell me what you think
Post by: MrColossal on Tue 18/05/2004 05:05:22
but you're being silly anyways, you had NO idea that he played Comix Zone or that he ever heard of it.

If I tell you I want to make a game involving a city being taken over by the devil and a series of people not really knowing each other are drawn to the city to destroy the evil and you tell me "Hey idiot! That's the plot to 'Evil City 2: Gonna Getcha! Stop ripping it off!!" and I've never seen Evil City 2 or Evil City 1 for that matter then you aren't being fair

why don't people jump on the games in production thread and yell at all the people doing fantasy games " A WIZARD'S APPRENTICE SAVING THE DAY?!?! GET ORIGINAL!!!11"

Anyway, I think it would be really interesting to do this with an adventure game however in a platformer like Comix Zone the repetition of jumping from panel to panel is more accepted. In a game like this breaking through panels I feel would get boring to constantly write for

"Ok, so to get through panel 20 he has to... Um... Cut it with scissors!! Oh no wait, did that already... Maybe he waits 50 years for the comic page to deteriorate because the owner didn't put it in an acid free plastic bag!"