Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations

Started by Candall, Wed 07/11/2007 16:07:45

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Candall

Has anyone picked this up and played through yet?  I have to give major props to Capcom this time around.  The overarching story was incredibly good; the best of the series so far.  They've certainly topped themselves which was no easy task after the first two.

If you've already played through,
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What did you think of Phoenix handing over his badge to Edgeworth?  I thought it was a stroke of genius.  It was nice being able to see how his mind works.
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ManicMatt

There's a third one in the series? I still haven't started playing the second one! Well, probably be a while before the UK gets the third one anyway.

Have they changed the graphics, music or is it all cut and paste? Well, I'll look it up!

Trials and Tribulations? Is Captain Kirk one of the defendants?

Candall

Quote from: ManicMatt on Wed 07/11/2007 16:39:50
Have they changed the graphics, music or is it all cut and paste? Well, I'll look it up!

To save you the trouble and avoid the risk of encountering spoilers, I'll tell you that returning characters have not been re-drawn... they still use the same frames that they used in the first one, though there are one or two new frames thrown in where needed.  There are also characters who have been treated to paintovers for necessary costume changes.

As for music, the formula stands.  Characters with established themes kept their themes.  Music associated with backgrounds has remained associated with said backgrounds.  On the other hand, any and all new locations and characters have been given their own new themes, and they're all excellent.

LimpingFish

What I like best about the Phoenix Wright (Gakuten Saiban) games is Capcom's willingness to  include dual-language versions with the Japanese releases.

The Japanese versions of both Justice for All and Trials and Tribulations come with english language options, negating the need to wait for US or European releases.

T and T's storyline is probably the strongest of the Phoenix Wright trilogy, and a fine way to end that particular story arc.

Gakuten Saiban 4 introduces a new set of characters, but since it's a brand new game (and not a port of a Gameboy Advance game, ala Phoenix Wright), it's sadly lacking an english language option. :(

For those of us who have enjoyed the Phoenix Wright games, Dreamcatcher's "Lifesigns: Surgical Unit" (Kenshuui Tendo Dokuta), released yesterday in the US and due for release any day now in Europe, is a worthy alternative.
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Candall

Quote from: LimpingFish on Wed 07/11/2007 18:42:09
The Japanese versions of both Justice for All and Trials and Tribulations come with english language options, negating the need to wait for US or European releases.

Is the "English language option" found in the Japanese release handled by the same team that localizes the games for American release?  My understanding is that the English translation found on the Japanese T&T release was plagued with some typographical errors which were fixed for the American version.

LimpingFish

There is the odd typo, or misuse of adjectives and the like, but these are overall very minor errors. The translation certainly isn't plagued by them.

It's possible that these errors would have been fixed for the US release, but I haven't played that version so I can't be sure.

"Justice for All" generated some controversy when it emerged that the translation in the US release was almost identical to the dual-language version, and contained the same errors, so who can say?

Regardless of such errors, though, you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between a "proper" translation and the dual-language option.
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Candall

I wasn't really concerned with grammar and usage (I've found errors in all three American releases), but more the actual text itself.  One of the best things about the games so far is the self-aware writing and bizarre pop culture references.  If the T&T English/Dual text is nearly identical, then that's the question answered, so thanks ;D

I guess it isn't a big deal for me since all three of the GBA ports are now localized and released, it was more of a curiosity.

ManicMatt

There's a fourth Phoenix Wright game? And it doesnt have Phoenix, but someone called Apollo Justice? *Looked it up*

News to me!

Lifesigns, how does that compare to Trauma Centre, because I don't think Trauma centre is my bag.

LimpingFish

Trauma Centre is really just a puzzle game at heart.

And while there is surgery in Lifesigns, the majority of the game is based around talking to people, diagnosis, collecting information, and engaging in "psyche-lock" style branching conversations, ala Phoenix Wright.

I've played through the Japanese version, Tendo Dokura 2, and enjoyed it. I also played through the first Tendo Dokura, and while that was also enjoyable, Tendo Dokura 2 outshines it in nearly every department.

If the english translation holds up, Lifesigns should make for a fine game.
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Vince Twelve

Finished the Japanese version of Phoenix Wright (in English) a month or so ago.  Definitely the best of a great series.

The whole of the last case was brilliant.  They, really, could have left out the two un-connected cases, and I still would have been happy with the game.  But that would have left out some great jokes and glib references.

Bluescreens Inc. Employee: I'm sorry, I can't give you that data.  It's Super Password Admin Restricted Desktop Access.

Maya: This is madness!

Bluescreens Inc. Employee: Madness?  This is S.P.A.R.D.A..

or something like that.

All in all, the Phoenix Wright series is some of the most fun I've had playing games in the last five years.  Love the twisty stories and the great characters.  The last game was a great finish, and I'm definitely planning on buying Apollo Justice when an English version is available.


Dualnames

Can someone stop this thread?I hate Phoenix !! 8)
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stevetheblack

Quote from: Jim "Dualnames" Span on Thu 08/11/2007 08:05:16
Can someone stop this thread?I hate Phoenix !! 8)

I think Mr Wright has something to say about that.

Also, I am a big fan of the Phoenix Wright games, but I kind of wish I hadn't imported T&T.  The english translation is pretty good, and the game is awesome, but now I have to wait ages for them to translate Apollo Justice :(

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