Hey everyone.
I was just if there was any AGS Dr Who games at all? ???
I know Skerrigan made a very short 'Chapter 0' intro (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=33824.0) a couple of years ago. The intro is impressive, but I was looking for full games.
If not AGS, is there ANY freeware Dr Who games around?
Thanks.
I seem to recall at least two. One was the prologue for a larger game and another a retro one.
The threads must have gone out of date.
This retro one - was it a full complete game, or a Work In Progress? 8)
Peace and Goodwill
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=36949.0
Tardis Trouble
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=33824.0
Time Snare
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=26026.0
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=31497.0
Unfortunately nothing finished it seems...
I'd love to see one!
Time Snare demo is awesome! I really hope Duckbutcher finishes it someday.
I would love to see a completed Dr Who game. :)
It looks like Cirius has left the AGS forums, and I think Skerrigan and Duckbutcher have lost interest in AGS and/or Doctor Who.
I'd love to do an AGS-based "Doctor Who" game, but I find my lack of AGS knowledge (and my non-existent artistic ability) rather scupper that idea.
Seems I'm out of luck then. :(
Oh well, thanks everyone. :)
Quote from: Frodo on Sun 04/04/2010 16:02:02
Seems I'm out of luck then. :(
Oh well, thanks everyone. :)
Looks that way, AGS-wise. Dunno about other systems/platforms though - if you're on Gallifrey Base, asking a more general question along those lines might produce results.
Quote from: SteveMcCrea on Sun 04/04/2010 01:13:41
Peace and Goodwill
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=36949.0
Tardis Trouble
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=33824.0
Time Snare
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=26026.0
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=31497.0
Unfortunately nothing finished it seems...
I'd love to see one!
Not only are they not finished, the demos also aren't available anymore... And I waw so in the mood for trying (one of) these.
One of them is still available, Skerrigan's Episode 0 demo - http://dump.myxcp.net/mirror/skerrigan.co.uk/doctorwho.zip
Quote from: Sslaxx on Sun 04/04/2010 12:38:20
I'd love to do an AGS-based "Doctor Who" game, but I find my lack of AGS knowledge (and my non-existent artistic ability) rather scupper that idea.
In fact, I'd be interested in doing a "Doctor Who" game - whilst I may not know much about AGS, the language is pretty obviously a C-derivative, and I know C/C++ quite well, so it'd mostly be an API and quirks-learning exercise. My lack of graphical/artistic ability, however, would be significantly more problematic.
We NEED a Dr Who game here. 8)
Dr Who is actually perfect for an adventure game since the doctor is all about logic and reason over brute force.
I would happily lend any of my meagre skills to the creation of a Dr W game.
Quote from: Calin Leafshade on Mon 05/04/2010 00:05:42
Dr Who is actually perfect for an adventure game since the doctor is all about logic and reason over brute force.
I would happily lend any of my meagre skills to the creation of a Dr W game.
Meagre my arse.
I'd be up for it if you are, that'd make two of us. But we'd need at least one artist I guess - I can't draw to save my life.
I was actually making a Dr Who based game along with a Red Dwarf but stopped them both. The second one being one of my favorite shows of all time, but I knew i couldn't quite just you know get the humor, so I halted, because it ended up rather dull and worthless (also glad someone took over!!). The second is always on my mind, but hell, I haven't quite even finished HHGTG...
Time Snare was an excellent game! Quite a bit of it got finished...
If I was into Dr Who I would offer to help out with a project but I just don't know enough about the show, old or new.
Quote from: markbilly on Mon 05/04/2010 13:19:31
Time Snare was an excellent game! Quite a bit of it got finished...
If I was into Dr Who I would offer to help out with a project but I just don't know enough about the show, old or new.
I don't think you'd need to know that much; just being able to help would be a good thing.
Not sure why I didn't reply to this earlier, what with my deep deep adoration for Doctor Who (which I will not extoll at this venture....just because).
That said, I would gladly offer to help out with things...it'd partly depend on the Doctor being used for it, but heck, nobody ever said multiple Doctors were out of the question. Happens almost all the time. :)
Allons-y!
Quote from: AngelicCharon on Wed 07/04/2010 20:46:18
Not sure why I didn't reply to this earlier, what with my deep deep adoration for Doctor Who (which I will not extoll at this venture....just because).
That said, I would gladly offer to help out with things...it'd partly depend on the Doctor being used for it, but heck, nobody ever said multiple Doctors were out of the question. Happens almost all the time. :)
Allons-y!
That would be much appreciated I think. Nothing's concrete though, but that can be sorted soon enough!
Quote from: AngelicCharon on Wed 07/04/2010 20:46:18
Not sure why I didn't reply to this earlier, what with my deep deep adoration for Doctor Who (which I will not extoll at this venture....just because).
That said, I would gladly offer to help out with things...it'd partly depend on the Doctor being used for it, but heck, nobody ever said multiple Doctors were out of the question. Happens almost all the time. :)
Allons-y!
Tom Baker was always my favourite. ;D But all of them are good.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/04/08/gallifree-doctor-who-the-adventure-games/
Quote from: Trumgottist on Thu 08/04/2010 11:50:13
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/04/08/gallifree-doctor-who-the-adventure-games/
Holy crap! By Revolution Software no less? Nice.
I has the Peace and Goodwill Prologue here:
http://www.agsarchives.com/game-files/DoctorWho-TheCurseofZog.zip
Though its not playable.
I also DID have the Time Snare demo, but cant find it, and the sever I had it on is a server I dont have anymore.
Quote from: Trumgottist on Thu 08/04/2010 11:50:13
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/04/08/gallifree-doctor-who-the-adventure-games/
That looks interesting. I'll be keeping an eye on that.
Thanks for pointing it out, Trumgottist. :)
Quote from: Sslaxx on Thu 08/04/2010 12:32:20
Quote from: Trumgottist on Thu 08/04/2010 11:50:13
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/04/08/gallifree-doctor-who-the-adventure-games/
Holy crap! By Revolution Software no less? Nice.
And FREE apparently.
I have very little interest in Dr. Who, but I'll probably give this a go, just because it's Charles Cecil.
P.S. I've served Tom Baker in a supermarket where I occasionally work.
The guy is an absolute arrogant CUNT... sorry, but it's true.
Quote from: Frodo on Thu 08/04/2010 17:46:40
Quote from: Trumgottist on Thu 08/04/2010 11:50:13
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/04/08/gallifree-doctor-who-the-adventure-games/
That looks interesting. I'll be keeping an eye on that.
Thanks for pointing it out, Trumgottist. :)
Here are some more screenshots of it via Adventure Gamers website.
http://www.adventuregamers.com/gallery.php?id=1654 (http://www.adventuregamers.com/gallery.php?id=1654)
And lo, as if summoned from the depths of time and space itself, Cirius appears in a puff of smoke.
Peace and Goodwill is a V. big project for me. With absolutely no experience of AGS, and very little time and energy to commit to a project, I decided to take on far more than I can ever chew. Work does continue, but at a pace reminiscent of a no-legged millipede.
In my absence, the Peace and Goodwill demo has apparently fallen off my download site. I do apologise. I'll try and put it back up in the morning.
I am planning a few far smaller doctor who games, single or few room jobs, along the mini-episode lines. Not a lot to show for it at the moment beyond a few sketches, but conveniently, I can steal a massive number of sprites and objects from Peace and Goodwill, so the difficult part is almost out the way.
Very surprised to see you responding, Cirius. The mini-episode ideas sounds good, good luck with them!
As promised, the demo for Peace And Goodwill has been resurrected here:
Peace And Goodwill (http://www.mediafire.com/?lcoujt0mmet/)
Also, assuming Duckbutcher won't object, I've also uploaded the excellent Doctor Who: Time Snare as the website seems to have disappeared into the etherwebs.
Time Snare (http://www.mediafire.com/?u2ddvy2jxz3/)
To expand this conversation somewhat, people always say how spectacular a doctor who adventure game would be, but the idea does raise a few important questions I'm curious as to how you'd all address.
Given that the doctor is, in his own words, a genius, it seems a little odd to have the character bumbling around a setting with little idea what's going on. There generally seems to be a sense of purpose to all his actions, whether he draws attention to them or not. How do you counter this in a gaming setting? Do you make the doctor a non-player character, and if you do that, do you not run the risk of turning off potential audiences who expect to play as the doctor?
Duckbutcher chose to make the doctor the playable character, but I can't help feel that it acted somewhat to the detriment of the companion character, who seemed to fall into the background on occasion.
On the other hand, I have discovered there is absolutely nothing more fun than writing for a doctor who villain.
Swings and roundabouts I suppose. Ho hum.
Quote from: Cirius on Tue 13/04/2010 07:56:49
As promised, the demo for Peace And Goodwill has been resurrected here:
Peace And Goodwill (http://www.mediafire.com/?lcoujt0mmet/)
Also, assuming Duckbutcher won't object, I've also uploaded the excellent Doctor Who: Time Snare as the website seems to have disappeared into the etherwebs.
Time Snare (http://www.mediafire.com/?u2ddvy2jxz3/)
To expand this conversation somewhat, people always say how spectacular a doctor who adventure game would be, but the idea does raise a few important questions I'm curious as to how you'd all address.
Given that the doctor is, in his own words, a genius, it seems a little odd to have the character bumbling around a setting with little idea what's going on. There generally seems to be a sense of purpose to all his actions, whether he draws attention to them or not. How do you counter this in a gaming setting? Do you make the doctor a non-player character, and if you do that, do you not run the risk of turning off potential audiences who expect to play as the doctor?
Duckbutcher chose to make the doctor the playable character, but I can't help feel that it acted somewhat to the detriment of the companion character, who seemed to fall into the background on occasion.
On the other hand, I have discovered there is absolutely nothing more fun than writing for a doctor who villain.
Swings and roundabouts I suppose. Ho hum.
Well, I'd imagine the Doctor will be playable in the new adventure games they're making, so they'd have to address that issue too.
Why should (or does) play control over the Doctor necessarily equate to "bumbling around a setting with little idea what's going on". One issue would be player knowledge versus character knowledge I guess. I'm not sure I'd necessarily want to see "companion saves the day" stories ala the Eccleston era if you were to do games with the player as the companion; the balance would be tricky. Not impossible though, and there might be ways around it.
The Doctor did do a lot more 'bumbling around' in the Classic series of course...
If there's serious intent here for a spontaneous group effort of finally making a completed AGS Doctor Who game then I'd like to be involved. I'm a very big fan, across all the mythos from Absorbaloff to Zygon, from Faction Paradox to Zagreus. I'm also a confident writer - bit of my work (a fan re-write of Attack of the Cybermen) available here (http://nigelverkoff.blogspot.com/2007/03/attack-of-cybermen-i.html) and I've some friends who are also big fans and good writers.
I can code, too. So... if anything happens I'm definitely in. The first AGS project I wanted to try was a DW one in fact ("The Power of the Nestenes") but that was around ten years ago and never got past an uber-n00bish "I'm going to make th1s game, dudes!" post.
Was rather amazed by the news of the new games earlier today, since I was saying years ago that I was amazed Revolution had never bought the rights...
Broken link there Jared.
You raise an interesting point actually. I've somewhat assumed that any joint doctor who game would inevitably be one of the new doctors, but there's absolutely no reason why that should be the case. Certainly, it might make considerably more sense to involve one of the older doctors, if only for the 'bumbling around' factor.
That, and I'm still not overly sold on Matt Smith, but let's not derail a topic down that road.
I'd thoroughly throw my hat into any joint project, I've absolutely no idea what I could do to assist, but I'm sure I can think of something.
Quote from: Cirius on Tue 13/04/2010 10:13:41
Broken link there Jared.
Fixed now. I keep forgeting which forum does what and had quotation marks round the address.
QuoteYou raise an interesting point actually. I've somewhat assumed that any joint doctor who game would inevitably be one of the new doctors, but there's absolutely no reason why that should be the case.
Which is interesting because the ones that I've seen planned... Time Snare was 4th, the breakdown one was 8th, my idea was 5th, and one I saw on a website which a guy admitted was little more than concept art was 1-8. Oh, and somebody released a Klik 'N Play game that was 1-5. Peace and Goodwill was surprisingly the only modern Doctor game I'd seen (Ironically with some niftily uber-retro graphics)
It's as if people who enjoy making Lucas Arts/Sierra-style adventure games are predisposed to nostalgia somehow... ;)
QuoteCertainly, it might make considerably more sense to involve one of the older doctors, if only for the 'bumbling around' factor.
It isn't quite to say that previous Doctors were more foolish or less competent - a big part of it was stories having more running time on average and a slower pace. The Doctor didn't need to come up with a plan quite so quickly. I have to say that Tennant's hyper-competence would make an adventure game with his Doctor impractical unless the player took the companion role...
Personally I like the idea of the companion being an occassionally playable character as well, or even split evenly to the point of the later Broken Swords. The companion gets used a lot to provide multiple sides of a story, after all.
From an audience standpoint, I think a lot of the kind of people into adventure games have "the Doctor" in their heads as one of the older ones. After all, he'll always be John Pertwee to me. Conversely, maybe drag non-adventure folk in using newer doctors like Tennant and co?
I have Pertwee's autograph, does that make me AWESOME?
Honestly, i really hate the crap that the BBC are spitting out for the new generation.
Quote from: Technocrat on Wed 14/04/2010 11:19:29
From an audience standpoint, I think a lot of the kind of people into adventure games have "the Doctor" in their heads as one of the older ones. After all, he'll always be John Pertwee to me. Conversely, maybe drag non-adventure folk in using newer doctors like Tennant and co?
Oh, so true! The old doctors are so much better than the new bunch. :)
For me, it's Tom Baker (remember that scarf? ;)) Stupot said he was arragont, but I don't care, I LOVE HIM ANYWAY. ;D
I'm torn between Tom Baker or Sylvester McCoy, but Tennant did have a certain appeal for me after stepping out of the Tardis dressed pretty much the same way I've looked for about the last ten years.
Speaking of autographs. My wedding gift from my brother was an extremely large portrait of a dalek, signed by David Tennant, John Barrowman, Billy Piper, Catherine Tate, Camille Coduri, Eve Miles, Bernard Cribbins, Freema Agyeman, Elisabeth Sladen, Julian Bleach and Noel Clarke, pretty much the complete cast of Journey's End.
Now there's a guy who knows what his brother likes. And the wife was equally happy, before anyone asks.
Here's a bizarre, completely unworkable idea. Everyone interested calls a Doctor, puts together a v. short game and we release a complete collection? Crazy I know.
Even crazier, person one makes a short game, at the end of which the tardis dematerialises. He then zips up the unfinished game and passes it on, code, graphics and all to person two, who carries on with the tardis rematerialising. So person one has absolutely no idea where his Tardis will go once he ends the episode. Ending up with a mad, completely random jaunt through space and time with no coherent plot whatsoever.
Quote from: Cirius on Thu 15/04/2010 08:27:41
I'm torn between Tom Baker or Sylvester McCoy, but Tennant did have a certain appeal for me after stepping out of the Tardis dressed pretty much the same way I've looked for about the last ten years.
Speaking of autographs. My wedding gift from my brother was an extremely large portrait of a dalek, signed by David Tennant, John Barrowman, Billy Piper, Catherine Tate, Camille Coduri, Eve Miles, Bernard Cribbins, Freema Agyeman, Elisabeth Sladen, Julian Bleach and Noel Clarke, pretty much the complete cast of Journey's End.
Now there's a guy who knows what his brother likes. And the wife was equally happy, before anyone asks.
Here's a bizarre, completely unworkable idea. Everyone interested calls a Doctor, puts together a v. short game and we release a complete collection? Crazy I know.
Even crazier, person one makes a short game, at the end of which the tardis dematerialises. He then zips up the unfinished game and passes it on, code, graphics and all to person two, who carries on with the tardis rematerialising. So person one has absolutely no idea where his Tardis will go once he ends the episode. Ending up with a mad, completely random jaunt through space and time with no coherent plot whatsoever.
That really sounds quite an interesting idea...
I prefer the first idea, if only because it'll end up with an insane mix of styles, graphics and plot, and it also means we won't have to wait forever and a day before anyone gets to play a finished game. Keep them short, keep them simple, and keep them moving. As each gets finished, it gets added to the collection.
Who needs a BBC budget? Pah.
I was going to type out a proper response, but instead have opted to merely say I support the idea of a collection, and would like this to move beyond mere discussion. :)
Pretty cool idea, actually. Would be interesting if you could get one person per Doctor. Although I have a feeling not too many people will be stampeding to take up Colin Baker's part...
Huh, I was just about to volunteer to do Colin, because he's my second favourite Doctor.
I'm admittedly not all that up on Doctor Who since I don't watch it all that much, but as far as I know Colin Baker isn't exactly a fan-favourite... Still, as they say, every character is SOMEONE'S favourite.
Quote from: EnoRed on Fri 16/04/2010 16:59:30
I'm admittedly not all that up on Doctor Who since I don't watch it all that much, but as far as I know Colin Baker isn't exactly a fan-favourite... Still, as they say, every character is SOMEONE'S favourite.
Colin was pretty badly treated by BBC management at the time. The audio stories he's done past few years though have been very good indeed.
For some reason I'm more a fan of the idea of Doctor Who more than the actual show... It's the type of thing I like to research and read about, but I hardly ever actually watch it. I couldn't really get into the new show since my friends are either disinterested like me or adamantly dislike it because they're fans of the older one, and I never really got the chance to see any of the older stuff.
As I said though, I like the idea of it, and putting that idea in an adventure game format seems like a pretty good match. I like seeing collaborative works come together too.
I was bored so I did a quick pixel-doodle of Matt Smith's 11th Doctor.
It's a little simplistic and the shading is all over the place, though.
(http://longevitygene.webs.com/new_doctorx3.png)
P.S. the legs are awful. If anyone wants to make this look better then they are welcome to use it.
Yeah, I was going to say can the graphics be fairly collaborative? I'm not great at pixel art, and my backgrounds are even lamer. So... I can do my game totally on my own but it will look like "Doctor Who Visits RON". (The Krysis style graphics at least, but that's about my limit)
Quote from: Jared on Fri 16/04/2010 23:05:12
Yeah, I was going to say can the graphics be fairly collaborative? I'm not great at pixel art, and my backgrounds are even lamer. So... I can do my game totally on my own but it will look like "Doctor Who Visits RON". (The Krysis style graphics at least, but that's about my limit)
You mean something like this?
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4526748059_5e2822be58_o.png)
...okay, that's officially badass. With your blessing I'm using that Colin, too.
(After I posted I tried to do a Krysis-Colin to post here, but that effort shames mine..)
Speaking of collaborative art. I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm planning on just dumping the sprites I use into a big folder and putting them up for anyone to root their way through. Not that I'm any good at art anyway.
Anyway, don't overly concern yourself with graphics at the moment Jared, just dive in, slap something together. At the moment, this is all about getting some momentum going. I'm using 90% programming graphics at the moment, you'd be amazed how many blue cups are kicking around the place...
Renegade, what the hell is up with Tom Baker? Is he on drugs or something? I've never seen such a happy timelord...
Oh, I'm here and now shotgunning Tennant, given that I'm within stones throw of finishing the first mini episode. Though there's nothing preventing anyone else from taking a crack at him as well.
Amusingly I read Jared's post as '(the Crysis style graphics at least, but that's about my limit.)'
If my graphical limit was Crysis, I'd probably be fairly happy with that.
QuoteRenegade, what the hell is up with Tom Baker?
Lets see... hat, hair, scarf, wild eyes, mad toothy grin... yep, he checks out as the fourth Doctor. ;D
Anyway, here's the full sheet of Doctors I did a while ago before Matt Smith was revealed as the 11th. I'd used the actor's heights to determine how tall the sprites were. Plus, alternate costumes, heads, two versions of the sonic screwdriver and the TARDIS.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4526748049_4debd4c5b5_o.png)
Taking it to the max, eighties style.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c65/njwheeler/4526748-1.png)]
Renegade Implementor, those sprites are great. Loving the 80s ones, too, Cirius! The Daleks are brilliant! :)
Actuall those who don't know:
Broken sword creator is making 4 free game of Dr Who (PC and Mac)
Although, those games arent made with AGS, it worth to keep on eye on!
http://www.gameboomers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/612658/1.html?PHPSESSID=d56d16591e1d5168f00e7293ed16d665 (http://www.gameboomers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/612658/1.html?PHPSESSID=d56d16591e1d5168f00e7293ed16d665)
Hopefully this will new ags games!
Quote from: Cirius on Sat 17/04/2010 16:01:42
Taking it to the max, eighties style.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c65/njwheeler/4526748-1.png)]
Maybe you should consider using 80s colors too - 16 or 4, not 256 ;)
Hmmmmmm.....no.
I like colours. Colours are good.
Quote from: splat44 on Sun 18/04/2010 04:57:02
Actuall those who don't know:
Broken sword creator is making 4 free game of Dr Who (PC and Mac)
Although, those games arent made with AGS, it worth to keep on eye on!
http://www.gameboomers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/612658/1.html?PHPSESSID=d56d16591e1d5168f00e7293ed16d665 (http://www.gameboomers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/612658/1.html?PHPSESSID=d56d16591e1d5168f00e7293ed16d665)
Hopefully this will new ags games!
Hellz yeah, I just saw the advert they had on after...erm...I doubtless legally somehow acquired the episode from here in Korea. Anyhow, it *does* look awesome, and I'm kind of glad it's got Smith in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvx0_TsGEKA
Wasn't there a parody of the Doctor in "The Galaxy of Fantabulous Wonderment"? or some game?
'Charlie Foxtrot & The Galaxy of Tomorrow' featured a rather Tom Baker looking chap, who lived in a phone box and had a robot dog. I'm presuming that's what you're referring to. I vaguely recall wandering round the interior of the Tardis and being reminded of the maze segments of Zac Mckracken.