http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MONKEY-ISLAND-2-1991-SEALED-BOX-FREE-WORLD-SHIPPING_W0QQitemZ8233706460QQcategoryZ11047QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
:o
What's the point in keeping it sealed? The best thing you can do with MI2 is play it :D
Quote from: Privateer Puddin' on Tue 15/11/2005 20:42:42
What's the point in keeping it sealed? The best thing you can do with MI2 is play it :D
or keep it sealed and sell it for £100? ;)
no, mi2 is worth more than £100 to me ;)
Quote from: Privateer Puddin' on Tue 15/11/2005 21:34:45
no, mi2 is worth more than £100 to me ;)
im sure a 'normal' copy could be aquirred for about £2 somewhere.
99 pounds is like, 200 us dollars, right? who the heck will buy that? It's not even that good anyway... :)
Quote from: Anarcho on Wed 16/11/2005 21:41:39
99 pounds is like, 200 us dollars, right?Ã, who the heck will buy that?
A collector? ;)
Quote from: Privateer Puddin' on Tue 15/11/2005 21:34:45
no, mi2 is worth more than £100 to me ;)
Would YOU buy it for £100? (http://koti.mbnet.fi/paapeli/rsmiley/winktongue.gif) I wouldn't :D
lol call me crazy, but i just bought it, ive spoken to a few people who think a sealed copy could be worth quite a lot more...
;D
/me goes to game and gets friend to seal old adventure game boxes
Quote from: Privateer Puddin' on Tue 15/11/2005 21:34:45
no, mi2 is worth more than £100 to me ;)
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Would YOU buy it for £100? (http://koti.mbnet.fi/paapeli/rsmiley/winktongue.gif) I wouldn't :D
If i had to, sure.
Dan, I personally don't think it'll be much more, i'm a massive mi2 fan and i don't want it, now.. one of those Ron Gilbert signed boxes from ronfest.. ;)
Quote from: Anarcho on Wed 16/11/2005 21:41:39
99 pounds is like, 200 us dollars, right? who the heck will buy that? It's not even that good anyway... :)
Aaah! :o Blasfemia!
;D
Lots of companies have shrink wrapping machines like my work does, sealing something is as easy as pie, watch out for that.
I work in a video game shop and when we had a store refit we cleared all the cabinets and found some brand new unused jaguar and saturn games ^_^
Hmm... recently I bought DOTT VGA boxed set from Cancer Reaserch UK for fifty pence... It's complete with book, all floppy disks and everything. I wonder how much it's worth?
Quote from: Anarcho on Wed 16/11/2005 21:41:39
99 pounds is like, 200 us dollars, right?
I purchased the rare enhanced multi-language CD audio version of Monkey Island 1 with the Monkey Island 2 Interface a while ago, and that was not as expensive!
Quote from: Thomas Voà Ÿ on Thu 17/11/2005 19:35:45
Quote from: Anarcho on Wed 16/11/2005 21:41:39
99 pounds is like, 200 us dollars, right?
I purchased the rare enhanced multi-language CD audio version of Monkey Island 1 with the Monkey Island 2 Interface a while ago, and that was not as expensive!
its not in the vicinty of 200 dollars, when has the exchange rate ever been oveer $2 to £1? Besides, stuff like this is what are student loans are for ;D
Well, then it's better.
I've been wondering.
But still, it is quite expensive!
100 pounds is pretty much exactly 172 american dollars. This is according to yesterday's rate.
Btw, I've got boxed copies of a lot of games. No Monkey Island 2, though. For example, my original boxes include:
Alien Incident
Beavis & Butthead Do U
Beavis & Butthead in Virtual Stupidity
Beneath a Steel Sky
Congo: Descent into Zinj
Curse of Enchantia
Curse of Monkey Island, The
Day of the Tentacle
Discworld
Discworld 2: Missing Presumed...?!
Eco Quest
Escape from Monkey Island
Gabriel Knight 3
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Last Express
Leisure Suit Larry: Love for Sail
Litil Divil
Longest Journey, The
Orion Burger
Sam & Max Hit the Road
Sanitarium
Then I have some old and some new collections. I've got the Gabriel Knight Mysteries collection, which includes GK1 (with speech), GK2, a graphic novel for GK3, a soundtrack and also the GK book. I got it for 10 euros. It's from 1998. Another collection is the Classic Adventures from Lucasarts collection, containing Monkey Island, Loom, Indy: Last Crusade, Maniac Mansion and Zak McKracken. It's also got a huge manual that contains info for all games. It's an old one, from 1992. Another collection is one with the two first Simon the Sourcerers. It's from 1995. It was supposed to contain a t-shirt, but it wasn't in the box. I've also got Space Quest 4, but there's no box for it.
ahhh leisure suit larry love for sail, that wa actually a very good gamne i thought! it had some sniff pad with it that had different smells lol, i used to have it but i lost it in a house fire :(
It's very cool that all the oldies had so many extra plugs in the game packages. For example Larry 7 with the sniff pad, Sam n Max with the manual dress codes or MI2 and Litil Divil with the code wheels. They should have more of that nowadays. That's also one thing I'm worried about in the future when digital distribution becomes more common. I don't want Telltale's Sam n Max in episodic format as data on my HD. I want a big cardboard box, a complimentary comic, an old-style manual and a subscription ticket for free walkthrough support via telephone :). The only thing I want changed from the original is diskettes.
Thats a complete rip-off, I downloaded that game 3 months ago off a warez site.
Quote from: imspeshul on Fri 18/11/2005 00:15:14
Thats a complete rip-off, I downloaded that game 3 months ago off a warez site.
*sigh* i didnt pay as much as i did so i could look forward to pulling the sealing off the game and getting it installed straight away.
Quote from: ildu on Fri 18/11/2005 00:10:06
It's very cool that all the oldies had so many extra plugs in the game packages. ... I want a big cardboard box ...
I'm kind of glad that the game makers have switched to smaller boxes. I have a box that had Gabriel Knight 1 and 2 (and a paperback novel (!) based on GK1 which I never read), that box is so huge it barely fits anywhere. The worst was opening a big box, taking out a bunch of cardboard and getting a single CD in its case. No manual, nothing. Why have a box 12 times the size of the CD?!
Because:
1. It looks better on the shelf := .
2. It makes you think your money is more well-spent.
3. Larger boxart.
I've never owned the original Monkey Island 1 and 2 Boxes. The version I usually play is the cd version that came with CMI as part of a special promotion. But once, I got to see the original Monkey Island box, from a fellow Monkey Island fan, and it was the greatest thing evar.
Quote from: Thomas Voà Ÿ on Thu 17/11/2005 19:35:45
I purchased the rare enhanced multi-language CD audio version of Monkey Island 1 with the Monkey Island 2 Interface a while ago, and that was not as expensive!
I (not so recently) acquired the same CD. But I got it free with my Soundblaster Card ;D.
While I wouldn't pay $200 for sealed Monkey Island 2 game, I'd probably buy it for $50 (which probably amounts to the same when converted to units of "Monkey Craze"). The boxed version is definitely better than downloading it off the net.
Quote from: imspeshul on Fri 18/11/2005 00:15:14
Thats a complete rip-off, I downloaded that game 3 months ago off a warez site.
You don't apparently see the nostalgy and collector's value here. Sure, I have downloaded the first game I ever played - Doom - off a warez site a long time ago. But I would pay about anything to get my hands on a boxed copy of it. I've played it through several times, know almost every secret, and such, so there isn't much in that sense left, but to feel the weight of the box in your hands and know it's something so old and still so great and...
So on. Got carried away.
Quote from: DanClarke on Thu 17/11/2005 23:48:31
it had some sniff pad with it that had different smells lol, i used to have it but i lost it in a house fireÃ, :(
House fire?
And you are sad about losing the sniff pad?
Quote from: imspeshul on Fri 18/11/2005 00:15:14
Thats a complete rip-off, I downloaded that game 3 months ago off a warez site.
1: It's a collectors item from 1991.
2: No warez talk on the forum.
Go away.
Quote from: Thomas Voà Ÿ on Fri 18/11/2005 13:53:15
Quote from: DanClarke on Thu 17/11/2005 23:48:31
it had some sniff pad with it that had different smells lol, i used to have it but i lost it in a house fireÃ, :(
House fire?
And you are sad about losing the sniff pad?
yeah i lost a lot of stuff, there was a gass expolion in my house so i had to jump out of the window, not great fun. 7 months of living in hotels and rented houses whilst ours was rebuilt = not nice.
Quote from: Elliott Hird on Fri 18/11/2005 15:40:22
Quote from: imspeshul on Fri 18/11/2005 00:15:14
Thats a complete rip-off, I downloaded that game 3 months ago off a warez site.
Fuck off.
1: It's a collectors item from 1991.
2: No warez talk on the forum.
Go away.
3. If you're not a moderator, don't pretend to be one.I know I am not one, but I am just stating a somewhat common opinion here. You really should watch your postings before you have the mods on your back for real.
Quote from: Elliott Hird on Fri 18/11/2005 15:40:22
Quote from: imspeshul on Fri 18/11/2005 00:15:14
Thats a complete rip-off, I downloaded that game 3 months ago off a warez site.
Fuck off.
1: It's a collectors item from 1991.
2: No warez talk on the forum.
Go away.
Whats wrong with downloading? :-\
Downloading illegal material is generally looked upon as illegal...
I don't think Elliot Herd was acting like a moderator, it was just a general response to a rather "Look at me, I'm a dumbass!" post.
By the way, Impeshul, it's kinda like most vintage things. Sure, you could buy a better car cheaper, but it's a collectors item.
That's, K. N.
(-_- butt saved once again)
I think Elliott WAS acting like a moderator. He does that quite often. AND imspeshul wasn't actually talking warez since he didn't paste a link to any warez site or anything like that. He simply stated he downloaded it illegally 3 months ago.
I used to have a policy that I wouldn't download any adventure games and would always buy the game. The first AG I didn't buy was Grim Fandango. Ironically, it turned out to be the best AG game I ever played. And I always regretted that I didn't buy it.
Is my Lord of the rings text adventure trilogy worth anything? (Even if I thought it was crap?)
I also have "the three stooges" in it's box.
Not an adventure game, but Zool 2 had free stickers and a poster, and a chupa chups lolly inside! I bet someone has kept the lolly as a collecters item, but with added mould, ugh! (If sweets EVER get mouldy)
I played monkey island 1 on a lucasarts classics collection.
Somewhat off subject, but I played the monkey games in this order:
2,1,4,3
Elliot - I don't appreciate your potty mouth on this board, please don't let that happen again. & yes you did act like a moderator - and although warez is bad - someone merely mentioned it, not promote the use of it. This post was reported, and someone was genuinly offended by your reaction. Please try and control your rage over a "computer game" in the future. :)
We don't have enought money
We don't have credit card (who have it in Serbia?)
We don't work
We pay collage 1000 euros per year
We LOVE Monkey Island Madness
We want to download it
Now help us or hang us ???
are those the only two options?
Quote from: LJUBI on Wed 30/11/2005 01:53:40
We don't have enought money
We don't have credit card (who have it in Serbia?)
We don't work
We pay collage 1000 euros per year
We LOVE Monkey Island Madness
We want to download it
No matter what, none of these are reasons for pirating a game, they're just excuses.
Well if you have no other choice...
/me ties a long rope onto a high branch of a large tree...
LJUBI has MPS.
I have original sealed copies of ZORK 1, Lurking Horror, and Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, all for Commodore 64. The only reason they are still boxed is because my C64 bit the dust shortly after I went on an Infocom shopping spree.
And that scratch-n-sniff from LSL:LFS? It is most likely based off the SnS from Infocom's Leather Godesses of Phobos. That thing was so rancid that my room smelled like old pizza in a funky bathroom for months after I opened it.
I have no experience in how to do it, but I support piracy 100%
I actually have bought, almost every CD I have in my collection (1000+) and every score. But when I found myself here in London, with this huge library the temtetation was too much to resist...
And not to mention that in my early computer year (before 1990), all I did was copu 5 1/4 disk to one another (and actually fit 10 games in every disk). This is how I got Larry 1, PQ 1, and other "big" games.
I know that some people are loosing money with piracy but actually they are not the aritsts involved (they do get very little royalties, if any). If it is Vivendi, the company trhat loses money, well even better!
Of course I'm not saying "Be illegal", but I'm sure that there will be a way to find the games you want. Even if you have to wait for a while.
I've said it before, I'm not desperate to get the latest copy of every game that comes out. I don't care for the teasers or the demos. I just don't have 40 quid (GBP) to spent everytime I want to play a new game. But if I wait a year I can find the same copy, boxxed for 5 quid over the net, perfectly legal, which is a good thing. And if I wait another 5-10 years almost everything turns into freeware/shareware (or something)... Not to mention that my appetite for games has been fed by the wonderfull AGS community. What more does a man need?
40 quid? If you paid forty pounds on a game you'd have been ripped off!
I only support the idea of downloading games when it's considered abandonware.
Also, I tend to trade old games in for new ones. So I rarely pay the full price of around 30 pounds.
Quote from: Nikolas on Wed 30/11/2005 08:59:26
I know that some people are loosing money with piracy but actually they are not the aritsts involved (they do get very little royalties, if any). If it is Vivendi, the company trhat loses money, well even better!
I disagree with your thinking, Nikolas. So if you ever got signed on a record label, and your album is in the shops, I'll just go download it illegally shall I, because it's the label that will get most of the royalties? And what have you got against vivendi mate? Why not EA? I hate those guys!
About Vivendi, it's just that there was a whole lot of deals and bullshit about that company that got me saying that. KQIX and other stuff, that's why. I could also hate EA, why not... But I think that EA was the company thaty created Bard's Tale I back in 85 (or 87), so I can really feel bad about these guys.
Well, honestly I don't know what I'll do if something like this happens, but really being a freelance composer has it's pros. Except in very special cases the money you get come not from royalties but from the fees you get paid to do your work. Not to mention that most of the time, the copyrights are transfered to the company which has published the music/art. So...
Anyway back in greece I have friends who have record deals and the best publicity and thing I ever did for them was to push both their CDs to people who sell illegal CDs.
And furthermore, since I am doing what I'm doing for free over here (with what I consider good quality), why would it bother me if I was being paid, but somewhat less money for what I was being paid. I mean ok, let's say I have a deal to write music for a game and get paid for 20.000 quid. So what if someone rips of my music from the game and starts distributing it around the net. I think this is good. It means that people like my music and next time I have a deal with a software developing company I will ask for more money (thus covering the loss).
There is an audience but there is also the people you work for. From that point of view, I work for the company that pays me, not for my audience. The audience has nothing to do with me really. Of course I like "serving" the audience with good music, but really any composer who writes music for a film, for example, get's paid the full fee and that's all. And he doesn't give a shit if people steal the soundtrack, cause it's the company that loses money and note him/her.
Now: I might be wrong in all of this. If a happen to have a good deal and these kind of stuff start happening to me, I'll come and modify my post, but for now this is how I feel.
Gilbot V7000a you are so funny LOL
One day we will be able to get VISA and than all our money will be spend on AG
Well, I think it varies on how you get paid. You're thinking of paid contracts for music.
I was thinking of music record companies. When you get signed they loan you the money to get your record out there etc, and then you cover your loan via how many albums/singles/concerts tickets you sell. If you get any change left over, it's yours. This may vary perhaps between labels?
EA are also responsible for 5 billion dreadful film licensed games. *shudders*
Just don't have all of your multiple personalities sign up for a Visa application, or you'll hit some debt.
And if you really like Adventure Games, and you want to see more, then you'll pay for the good games, to keep the companies around. And for games that aren't sold in stores anymore, getting them from eBay is quite easy. If you can't use eBay right now, well, patience is a virtue.
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Nikolas, we were saying that there are music jobs where your pay depends on whether or not your cd sells (stock pay). This also happens to movie makers, such as independent films trying to take it to the next level. Some don't get paid at all while filming, and they put all their effort into making the movie the best they can. If the DVD sells, then each person gets a certain cut of the profits. No sales... no money.
I don't know how you missed the big hoohah about EA, but if any company is to be hated, its them.
Quote from: ManicMatt on Wed 30/11/2005 14:42:17
I was thinking of music record companies. When you get signed they loan you the money to get your record out there etc, and then you cover your loan via how many albums/singles/concerts tickets you sell. If you get any change left over, it's yours. This may vary perhaps between labels?
http://www.thebaffler.com/albiniexcerpt.html
This should help you understand a thing or two...
I was only being brief! That's what the "etc" is about! I didn't want to get into massive detail!
I know most of this anyway, thanks.
Like the band Defenestration, who were still on the dole way after releasing their album.
This article still shows that the piracy of the albums will not feed the band. Even if their share is small.
Hahahaha, some stupid "DanClarke84" has bought the item! What a suckey! It's probably an opened box and then lined with role cellophane!!! Hahahaha!
I'd like to add him to my msn list and have a laugh at him! Hahahaha!
yeah
What is it? Blind links are annoying, plus its in German or something! :P
Quote from: Al_Ninio on Wed 30/11/2005 15:19:22
This should help you understand a thing or two...
I actually knew most of this. I have already read this somewhere else. And it is dreadfull. I agree on that. I was reffering to freelance composers. Not bands. Bands are f**ked up this way, and I don't know if there is any other way to do it. Well... Police did keep their copyrights and all (I think or something simmilar), and Jean Michel Jarre created his own label. Maybe this is the way to go...
But for the record: I am against anything illegal! What I also stated in my previous post is that I wait for the games to get cheap. I baught ONI (from the same company that did HALO), for 2.75 quid. That's not bad! Including postage! That's not bad at all! And it kept me for a week or so...
A bit off-topic, but a rather amusing take on illegal downloading of mp3s: http://www.zug.com/pranks/riaa/
(particularly part 5)
Quote from: Helm on Wed 30/11/2005 08:15:09
are those the only two options?
I know which option I'm leaning towards...
Thank you Pelican, that was ammusing.