http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/ issues

SSH · Thu 05/04/2007 11:21:24

http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/ isn't workign for me atm, but the same front page on adventuregamestudio.co.uk does work...

Also, I think the wiki should be linked on the left-hand main Menu on the http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/ main page...

Pumaman · Thu 05/04/2007 20:55:28

http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/ seems to work fine for me...

As for the wiki, as I've said before I'd be happy to link to it, except for the fact that in IE it gives an ActiveX control security warning, which is a bit dodgy and not something I'd like on a page that AGS officially links to.

scotch · Thu 05/04/2007 21:06:36

Why would there be any kind of activex control on the wiki? I don't get any warnings in IE there... and I can't find anything to trigger one.

Pumaman · Thu 05/04/2007 21:31:46

I'm not sure why it does it, but this is what I get in IE6:

scotch · Thu 05/04/2007 21:38:00

Hm, if I turn IE's settings up to max I get the prompt too, wonder what it comes from... the only thing besides mediawiki on there is the google ads and they are ok on most sites.

Nostradamus · Thu 05/04/2007 22:59:47

Max security level blocks all activeX by default.
There's no problem with the site itself, it's only what is defined in your browser's settings.
To change it go to Tools ---> Internet Options ----> Security tab ----> Custom Security Level - ActiveX controls and plug-ins ---> * ALLOW
If you don't want to allow ActiveX in all sites you can add the website address to the Trusted Sites and change the same settings there.

The message that you got implies that YOUR current settings do not allow ActiveX at all, neither signed or unsigned. You need to allow ActiveX as above Most people allow it cos many sites use it. So most people will certainly not get that message.

EagerMind · Fri 06/04/2007 00:11:03

Just quickly browsing through the page source, it looks like from the .js extensions that you might be using JScript (not to be confused with Javascript), which is actually a superset of EMCAScript (i.e. Javascript). I'm no expert, but it looks like JScript might tie into Microsoft's ActiveX scripting technology, which could be what's giving you your browser warnings.

Nostradamus · Fri 06/04/2007 08:36:52

JScript is using ActiveX, yes.
Again, the warning is nothing to worry about, it's not gonna do any damage to one's PC to approve and most people will not experience the warning, it's just a question of changing the settings of one's browser.

scotch · Fri 06/04/2007 12:15:59

That's quite an uninformative error message if it's simply that javascript is being used... I'd assume some kind of code with special priviledges was being installed. The question then is why does our script trigger it, when for example the JS on these forums doesn't?

Edit: It seems that the warning is issued when the script is actually called, and on the forums that is when you press the preview post button (maybe other places, I haven't checked). It does look dodgier if it appears before you even press anything I suppose... maybe we can remove the JS stuff from the wiki.

Edit: Well the script that runs on startup is the google ads stuff, and unless AGA wants to remove the ads I don't think there's much that can be done to get rid of the prompt. Browsing with IE on these settings pretty much every site I go to has the same message...

Pumaman · Fri 06/04/2007 15:26:35

Quote from: Nostradamus on Fri 06/04/2007 08:36:52
JScript is using ActiveX, yes.
Again, the warning is nothing to worry about, it's not gonna do any damage to one's PC to approve

But that's simply not the case. The reason I use the IE settings on max is because my PC got infected with spyware by browsing a dodgy website on the Medium settings; if you allow ActiveX controls then almost anything can install itself on your computer.

QuoteEdit: It seems that the warning is issued when the script is actually called, and on the forums that is when you press the preview post button (maybe other places, I haven't checked).

I've noticed this too, since the forum software upgrade a couple of weeks ago it has now started doing this in various places, very annoying.

Having read up a bit more, the innocent cause of the warning seems to be if the website uses AJAX, because IE doesn't provide a native XmlHttpRequest, so the javascript has to instantiate an ActiveX control to do the job.
The latest version of SMF uses some AJAX which is why these forums have started to display the warning in places.

I would say that this is really a fault with IE6 in the fact that you can't choose which ActiveX controls to allow (which is fixed in IE7). In the meantime, I guess it's probably safe to link to the wiki as it looks like the ActiveX used there is not damaging.

Nostradamus · Fri 06/04/2007 15:33:13

Quote from: Pumaman on Fri 06/04/2007 15:26:35
Quote from: Nostradamus on Fri 06/04/2007 08:36:52
JScript is using ActiveX, yes.
Again, the warning is nothing to worry about, it's not gonna do any damage to one's PC to approve

But that's simply not the case. The reason I use the IE settings on max is because my PC got infected with spyware by browsing a dodgy website on the Medium settings; if you allow ActiveX controls then almost anything can install itself on your computer.

Quote
I would say that this is really a fault with IE6 in the fact that you can't choose which ActiveX controls to allow (which is fixed in IE7). In the meantime, I guess it's probably safe to link to the wiki as it looks like the ActiveX used there is not damaging.

Then as I stated earlier, you can add that website to the Trusted Sites zone and enable ActiveX only there. This way you get rid of the message without allowing ActiveX to all sites.

I know this is not actually the thread's topic but I think it's still useful to know.