Now I have only seen this question asked a few times and for goodness sake I asked it twice but because it was within almost a year between both posts I had forgotten about the first one or more likely didn't think it was the same problem. I read the solutions suggested for the issue and they work but I have found an ideal way of solving this problem, now firstly would I be allowed to post this, being just a regular member and all and considering the other solutions came from more senior members? Secondly, if so, should I post it in the area the threads relating to it are or somewhere else, if the answer is the latter, where?
Um ... would you like to go back to the beginning and try saying that again?
lol.. all I can say is .....what?
Basically, if you give the oar to the Fisherman he will give you some coins. Take them to the Shopkeeper and you can buy a sword. Now you should be able to defeat the dragon (provided you can access the mountain.)
Also: Use the monkey on the nut. Get it? A monkey wrench! Oh, what a world.
Quote from: Pumaman on Sun 06/04/2008 19:03:22
Um ... would you like to go back to the beginning and try saying that again?
Okay here are all the posts I could find relating to this problem.
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=26416.msg333984;topicseen#msg333984
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=16474.0
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=20430.msg249257;topicseen#msg249257
That one is the solution I used but it's slightly different because I only needed to get the three standard inventory graphics.
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?action=post;quote=445954;topic=34219.0;num_replies=2;sesc=805543635cdc3e2d960d108b4da75ad4
Again similar but does not include my solution.
And I had 2 but for some reason at least 1 was deleted within the last 24 hours.
None, except one but it includes other numbers so it would make it hard to use, include the most effective method of solving this problem.
Simply replacing those missing sprites with any old sprite and changing its sprite number makes the inventory window look weird unless you know what the sprites that are missing look like and why invent the wheel even if you did find out by designing similar ones if you don't want to?
My method is to create a game you intend to delete once you have imported the files you need and save them as they were in the game, as bitmaps. Start a new game with the default template, call it whatever you want and save it to your Adventure Game Studio folder. There's on it 2 sprites folder, choose the one with the most graphics and locate sprites numbered 2041-2043, export each individually, save them as bitmap files and give them a name that'll help you remember what they're for, I chose just the sprite numbers and save them in a location of your choice. Then go back into your proper game and import each file individually to whatever sprite folder you want. Choose the "leave as is" option to avoid changes in the way the sprites look. Then rename each sprite number that it corresponds to. The magnifying glass is 2041, the pointer is 2042 and the OK button is 2043. Now open Windows Explorer in your preferred manner, mine is the My Computer icon that is on my Desktop. Navigate to whatever drive you installed Adventure Game Studio on and then navigate to Program Files(or if you installed in a different folder than use the easiest way to get to the folder that Adventure Game Studio is installed on. Open the Adventure Game Studio folder and delete the folder that has the name of the game you created earlier just to export the sprites. Empty the Recycle Bin and choose whether you want to keep the saved sprites you exported, I suggest you do in case you ever need them again, you probably wont but it's a precautionary measure. Now you should be able to open your inventory window and your problem should be solved.
Does that answer your question?
I could write a slightly more thorough walkthrough of the method but the one I just did is fairly close to it Then again if you think it's too big or sounds like it treats the user like a child some things can be removed while keeping the essential information in there.
P.S The reason I left aligned the text is because lots of it meant scrolling was needed to read certain parts. However it didn't solve that issue and neither did centring the text, is there any way to prevent the need to scroll with the bits I've written that need scrolling to read certain bits of the post?
Quote from: veryweirdguy on Sun 06/04/2008 19:41:10
Basically, if you give the oar to the Fisherman he will give you some coins. Take them to the Shopkeeper and you can buy a sword. Now you should be able to defeat the dragon (provided you can access the mountain.)
Also: Use the monkey on the nut. Get it? A monkey wrench! Oh, what a world.
What the hell are you talking about? I'm not crazy, I'm just trying to help!
Excuse me for being frank, but please reread your first post and tell me how on earth anyone would have understood what you meant?
I'm still not sure I understand, but I guess you mean creating some backup in case you delete an important image?
I'd suggest keeping all the images you create in GIMP / Photoshop / Paint Shop Pro / Paint-program-of-your-choice so you can import the missing file again.
As for the images already present in the template, you can easily start a new game, export the image you need and import that in your project.
I think she means:
"I have found an alternative solution to a previous technical problem. Can I post my solution as a thread?"
So we will have a thread with the name "The solution of the graphic deleting problem" telling how to solve this problem.
Just like the ones http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/kblist.php
Quote from: Gord10 on Sun 06/04/2008 21:07:39
I think she means:
"I have found an alternative solution to a previous technical problem. Can I post my solution as a thread?"
So we will have a thread with the name "The solution of the graphic deleting problem" telling how to solve this problem.
Just like the ones http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/kblist.php
You're mostly correct, I was thinking more as a sticky but if it need to just be a thread that;s okay. I should have been more clear about my intentions to begin with and I'm sorry for not doing that. However If it's a sticky people will see it be seen easily and people with that problem will probably just go straight there. If it were a thread and a user posted a question about it then someone could just direct them straight to my thread. I think the title should be more specific to the problem, something like, "Game crashes when the character tries to access his inventory". Of course this can happen for a few other reasons but if it were a thread and someone knew it was not exactly the same problem they needn't refer them to the thread link. I was thinking it might be good as one of those little ones but the problem is most user's wouldn't bother consulting it and just go straight to the forums for help. I'd prefer a sticky but whether I even get one of the little ones is in doubt. I'm just a regular member and I have little standing in the community thus far, so coming up with such an idea could make me look like I'm trying to question more senior members or act like I've earned the respect they have but both are wrong. I just thought that this would be a good idea since many users actually do just a blank template.
Try to hit the ENTER key a few times ..... make a post much more enjoyable to read.... not to mention understandable.
Try taking a breath in between sentences..... If you talk the way you write I'll need earplugs...
[edit] By the way.... it's amateur... not amatuer.
I think that if we stickied every solution to common problems we'd have 1000 sticky threads. When I have a scripting problem, I either ask a friend or do a forum search for a thread in which my problem has been solved (which I believe is the common thing to do). If you give your thread a nice, clear title, anybody who searches for a solution for their problem should find it straight away :).
With regards to all this talk about standing in the community and earning respect, I completely fail to see the relevance. There's a technical issue, and you've found a solution. How does your forum "status" change the reliability of your solution?
Guys, lighten up on the attitude, okay? I'll admit I also had no idea what her post was about beyond asking if she could offer something, but seriously, get the hell off the bandwagon attacks and be more civil.
First.
We have AGS Wiki. Nobody's really updating it, or so it seems.
But wiki (usually) is what's supposed to be all-around knowledge base and common problem solver.
So why don't you post there? If you have anything to offer, and wiki needing material, it's just what you need.
And others too. Make tutorials, helpful articles, etc.
If wiki gets some content, It'll be used more often too. Thus updated more often too. You get the point.
Second.
Is there an award for longest sentences possible? It's extremely hard to read your sentences if they never end... :(
Press-enter suggestion what I agree on. It's much easier to read then.
Third.
I won't include link to AGS wiki. Find it yourself. It'll be a test: how simply can one access AGS wiki? I don't see links anywhere where they would be really handy!
IMO, the link should be visible in forum main (possible suggestion to CJ perhaps?), so instead of generating repeating threads, people could access wiki easily... like this maybe
(http://www.increator.pri.ee/i/pull/logo.png)
But until it'll have some serious content, that's not very useful.
Fourth.
Regarding sticky topics, I usually never click on them. And if I need something, that happens to be very last place I look.
That's just probably me... :P Or is it???
Well I may have be one of those few people who has seen the mysterious wiki, it really is hidden away so deep it's almost a myth.
It's like I think that's the AGS wiki.
No way man you know that's just a page on Wikipedia.
Jokes aside I think updating it would made it far more useful
and make people bother to read it. I think I lost interest when
I saw it because the information was so out of date.
However even if adverts for the wiki were slapped around the forums like Google
Ads escaping from their websites and are on the loose, my experience is
people still use forums as the easiest way to solve an issue. Why? One reason
I think is because you get interactive feedback and that means you don't do
as much work solving the problem.
So forget the sticky but would it be allowed as well as appropriate to post a
thread with my solution in the beginner's technical questions forum?
Of course it would be formatted much better and more coherent and I'll
try to give it a name that comes as one of the few matches if I user searched for
the problem.
Oh and I will try and hunt down the mythical wiki tomorrow, notice anything
different about my post?
Quote from: Ben304 on Mon 07/04/2008 03:55:38
I think that if we stickied every solution to common problems we'd have 1000 sticky threads. When I have a scripting problem, I either ask a friend or do a forum search for a thread in which my problem has been solved (which I believe is the common thing to do). If you give your thread a nice, clear title, anybody who searches for a solution for their problem should find it straight away :).
With regards to all this talk about standing in the community and earning respect, I completely fail to see the relevance. There's a technical issue, and you've found a solution. How does your forum "status" change the reliability of your solution?
Usually I've found that on the Internet communities just as in real
life ones there's a bit of a pecking order and occasionally someone
finds it easier to people to take notice of them if they do something
that improves their pecking status. not that this thread was an
attempt at gaining any more recognition within this community!
Quote from: rock_chick on Mon 07/04/2008 07:52:57
[..], notice anything different about my post?
Much better to understand already.... ;D
Now don't overdo it and try to hit it at the end of a sentence, where one expects a full stop, not just to format the layout of your essay.
See the difference between:
Quote
Well I may have be one of those few people who has seen the mysterious wiki, it really is hidden away so deep it's almost a myth. It's like I think that's the AGS wiki. No way man you know that's just a page on Wikipedia. Jokes aside I think updating it would made it far more useful and make people bother to read it. I think I lost interest when I saw it because the information was so out of date. However even if adverts for the wiki were slapped around he forums like Google Ads escaping from their websites and are on the loose, my experience is people still use forums as the easiest way to solve an issue. Why? One reason I think is because you get interactive feedback and that means you don't do as much work solving the problem. So forget the sticky but would it be allowed as well as appropriate to post a thread with my solution in the beginner's technical questions forum? Of course it would be formatted much better and more coherent and I'll try to give it a name that comes as one of the few matches if I user searched for the problem. Oh and I will try and hunt down the mythical wiki tomorrow, notice anything different about my post?
and
QuoteWell I may have be one of those few people who has seen the mysterious wiki, it really is hidden away so deep it's almost a myth.
It's like I think that's the AGS wiki.
No way man you know that's just a page on Wikipedia.
Jokes aside I think updating it would made it far more useful
and make people bother to read it. I think I lost interest when
I saw it because the information was so out of date.
However even if adverts for the wiki were slapped around the forums like Google
Ads escaping from their websites and are on the loose, my experience is
people still use forums as the easiest way to solve an issue. Why? One reason
I think is because you get interactive feedback and that means you don't do
as much work solving the problem.
So forget the sticky but would it be allowed as well as appropriate to post a
thread with my solution in the beginner's technical questions forum?
Of course it would be formatted much better and more coherent and I'll
try to give it a name that comes as one of the few matches if I user searched for
the problem.
Oh and I will try and hunt down the mythical wiki tomorrow, notice anything
different about my post?
and
Quote
Well I may have be one of those few people who has seen the mysterious wiki, it really is hidden away so deep it's almost a myth. It's like I think that's the AGS wiki. No way man you know that's just a page on Wikipedia.
Jokes aside I think updating it would made it far more useful and make people bother to read it. I think I lost interest when I saw it because the information was so out of date.
However even if adverts for the wiki were slapped around the forums like Google Ads escaping from their websites and are on the loose, my experience is people still use forums as the easiest way to solve an issue. Why? One reason I think is because you get interactive feedback and that means you don't do as much work solving the problem.
So forget the sticky but would it be allowed as well as appropriate to post a thread with my solution in the beginner's technical questions forum? Of course it would be formatted much better and more coherent and I'll try to give it a name that comes as one of the few matches if I user searched for the problem.
Oh and I will try and hunt down the mythical wiki tomorrow, notice anything different about my post?
Enough of this off-topic stuff. If you pick up the game-making trade as fast as the postings we'll have a new game by rock_chick tomorrow! ;D
QuoteOne reason
I think is because you get interactive feedback and that means you don't do
as much work solving the problem.
True, partially.
But forum answers are short, brief and
"you don't do as much work solving the problem" isn't always the case.
Imagine now. You just downloaded AGS and don't know how to start.
an example:
Option one:You post a thread "how to make a room" in Beginners tech, and got answer
"RTFM" or "Click there, select new room, hope this helps"
Even if this helps, next step, "how to make character walk?" will be again the problem. So you post another thread...
Option two:You open wiki, type in "room", and there's an article about AGS room, what are the elements (hotspots, animation, walk-behinds, how it all works, etc) and link in the bottom to complete newbie tutorial how to make a short game with a room, with images and links to further tutorials etc. Also, it's much easier to conduct search in wiki...
Which one would you prefer?
I think a link on the banner like InCreator has shown would be a great idea. That wiki is very hard to find.
Also, the link to the beginners faq on http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/ is broken. EDIT: And the link to the wiki itself.
Who should I PM about that? Chris?
in case anyone with authority is watching:
BFAQ = http://americangirlscouts.org/agswiki/index.php?title=Category:AGS_Beginners%27_FAQ
WIKI = http://americangirlscouts.org/agswiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Quote from: rock_chick on Mon 07/04/2008 07:52:57
Oh and I will try and hunt down the mythical wiki tomorrow
And no cheating by using my link rock_chick!
No need, a simple net search should find it easy and I agree with the banner idea but in the form of some image link or even text link on relevant pages of the site and the forum would be one of them. Even a sticky in the Beginner's tech problems about it would help, there's one fore the BFAQ but not the wiki.
And yes I'd generally prefer the wiki option but I was referring more to people with certain, rarer issues, like errors and such. BFAQ's link has been broken for at least a few months and I don't know how long the wiki one has but top priority in regards to using or advertising them is to fix those links!
No need for a net search, I found links to both on this page http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/acres.shtml
and they are both still broken. Also the link to AGDzine on this page
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/aclinks.htm
isn't working either, perhaps some pruning and link checking and fixing or removal is in order.
Thanks for pointing this out guys, I've cleaned up the Resources page and fixed/removed all the broken links.
EDIT: The Links page was in a sorry state too, so I've cleaned that up as well.
Quote from: rock_chick on Tue 08/04/2008 16:05:18
No need for a net search, I found links to both on this page http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/acres.shtml
and they are both still broken. Also the link to AGDzine on this page
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/aclinks.htm
isn't working either, perhaps some pruning and link checking and fixing or removal is in order.
Yep, doh! That link survived a long time! Anyway it's still readable at
http://screen7.adventuredevelopers.com/agdzine/