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Community => Adventure Related Talk & Chat => Topic started by: Steel Drummer on Tue 24/01/2006 19:52:45

Title: idea for game
Post by: Steel Drummer on Tue 24/01/2006 19:52:45
hello adventure game fans pplz! I am not too good at doing stuff with AGS but I was wondering if anyone would want to make a game of an indiana jones story I wrote a while ago. if you want to see the story you can go to www.freewebs.com/yodaman11111/indianajones.htm and SCROLL DOWN
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: TerranRich on Wed 25/01/2006 08:06:49
Oh, you mean you want somebody to make your game for you? Or to help you out?
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Steel Drummer on Wed 25/01/2006 21:36:40
Quote from: TerranRich on Wed 25/01/2006 08:06:49
Oh, you mean you want somebody to make your game for you? Or to help you out?

No, someone would make the game using my idea. I SUCK at AGS stuff. I don't even know how to do sprites  :(
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: ManicMatt on Wed 25/01/2006 21:39:18
Neither did I. But I learnt how to, just like everyone else here!

You really should follow the simple guide in the manual for AGS and make your own indy game!

The rewards are the satisfaction that you have made it yourself!
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: TerranRich on Wed 25/01/2006 21:56:53
A bit of inspiration: I suck horribly at hand-made graphics. In fact, one of my prior (now-abandoned) projects was to be made using 3D (Poser) which ended up looking horrible.

But then I got good at vector graphics. And, using Flash, I made a walk animation that is pretty damn good for a first try, if I do say so myself.

As for AGS, you don't even need scripting to make a basic, working adventure game. Just read the manual from the beginning, follow the tutorials, read the BFAQ (http://americangirlscouts.org/agswiki/index.php/Category:AGS_Beginners%27_FAQ) if you need to, but you really should try it out yourself.

Don't give up too easily. That's what 99% of the peeps here will tell you. :)
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: simulacra on Wed 25/01/2006 22:27:17
Quote from: TerranRich on Wed 25/01/2006 21:56:53
I made a walk animation that is pretty damn good for a first try, if I do say so myself.

Don't tell me it's the one next to your post.  :=
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: mwahahaha on Thu 26/01/2006 01:15:03
I've only been using AGS for a month and a half and already my ability to make sprites and use the studio to make games has improved dramatically, and I had NO prior coding/sprite drawing experience.  Just read the beginners tutorials (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/acintro.htm) and get to work.

However, you may want to make a short, basic game before working on that project that you mentioned.  Like a game with only 3-5 rooms maybe.  You should pick it up quickly.
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Kinoko on Thu 26/01/2006 08:30:24
I started AGS with no scripting ability whatsoever and no priod knowledge of the program. 4 months later, I had finished a game that was nominated for several AGS awards. Winning none of them, but anyway, the point is that you don't need to have any skill whatsoever. Just get an idea and learn the program bit by bit, and eventually you'll be able to come up with something pretty decent! Keep going, your projects will get even better.

The whole idea of AGS is that you can start from absolutely nothing :)
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: TerranRich on Thu 26/01/2006 17:34:46
Quote from: simulacra on Wed 25/01/2006 22:27:17
Quote from: TerranRich on Wed 25/01/2006 21:56:53
I made a walk animation that is pretty damn good for a first try, if I do say so myself.

Don't tell me it's the one next to your post.  :=
What??? That's his idle animation! ;)

Nah, it's my thread in the C&C forum. Made in Flash, it's a blond girl walking with clenched fists, only because I suck at hands.
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Steel Drummer on Thu 26/01/2006 22:49:33
I tried doing stuff with AGS but it is too hard. Whe I tried doing the scripting, the whole program messed up. Anyhoo, the real reason for this whole thread is for someone to make a game using my idea.
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: TerranRich on Thu 26/01/2006 22:54:08
Have you tried the "Make my gaem!" button? It's really handy.
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: The Inquisitive Stranger on Thu 26/01/2006 23:33:43
I thought only SCRAMM had one of those...
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: mwahahaha on Fri 27/01/2006 00:18:34
Quote from: yodaman11111 on Thu 26/01/2006 22:49:33
I tried doing stuff with AGS but it is too hard. Whe I tried doing the scripting, the whole program messed up. Anyhoo, the real reason for this whole thread is for someone to make a game using my idea.
Dont script then, the only stuff I script for is to make custom GUIs ect.Ã,  Otherwise most of the stuff is completely doable without code.

Also, most people here make games because they want to put their own ideas into a game, and make something original and fun, I would doubt that anyone really would want to "make your game" for you.
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Grapefruitologist on Fri 27/01/2006 02:53:42
Once I tried to make somebody make something for me in a different game, but everybody was too busy making their own stuff. And, as I've learned, it's the same here.
Might I also point out that I couldn't make sprites. But I tried, and atleast they're not as bad as I thought. And, even after making my own sprites, nobody would help me. My advice to you is just read the tutorial (you MUST read the tutorial on AGS) and just try it-that's what I'm doing. It might not be the best game, but I don't think there's any other way to do it.
Now, if you still want help, I'll help you with the game. I can do sounds, music, art, and dialogue. The only thing is is that I said I CAN do them, but I didn't say I was good at them.
I have a keyboard for music, a keyboard for dialogue, Paint for art, and Acoustica for sounds. And, I could make the whole game with AGS, but I don't know any language but a tiny bit of CAOS, which is of no use when making a game. So, in other words, if you want me to help you, keep in mind that I'd probably do no better than you. Probably better than me. But if you still just want to make the game, but not do the hard stuff, then I really will help you, no joke. I need the practice, anyway. But, somehow I doubt you will, because it'd be a pretty bad game in my opinion, if it got finished at all...
But if you DO want me to do it, then just tell me, I will, but I'm trying to make my own game at the moment, and so again, I'll probably not have enough time to work completely on yours.
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: MrColossal on Fri 27/01/2006 02:54:42
Quote from: CoveredInSLUDGE on Thu 26/01/2006 23:33:43
I thought only SCRAMM had one of those...

AGS has one, it's in the drop down menu, quite extensive!

But I guess you wouldn't know that... Sludgey McOtherEngine!
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: The Inquisitive Stranger on Fri 27/01/2006 18:31:30
Pah! Silly AGSers and their drop-down menus...
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Squinky on Fri 27/01/2006 18:45:58
Once you go drop down menu baby, you never go back....


Aww yeah!
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Steel Drummer on Sat 28/01/2006 15:32:56
Well, I'll try making this game by myself but I need to know two things: 1. How do you draw sprites (particularly character sprites) for AGS ??? I looked in the manual and it doesn't tell anything. 2. What is the best paint program for drawing backgrounds etc.? I only have PAINT and it sucks  :-\
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Squinky on Sat 28/01/2006 16:22:34
Look in the critics lounge, I think there is a thread there about paint programs....Just don't expect the program to draw for you....

Also, check out what people are doing in the critics lounge with their stuff, then you can get an idea of what to try (sizes and such) and then of course post in the CL (your sprite or background) if you need any tips after that point....

Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: vict0r on Sat 28/01/2006 18:01:36
Whats wrong with ms paint? I use that for all my bg's and, in all my modesty, i dont think they suck... that bad...


EDIT:
Quote from: Squinky on Sat 28/01/2006 16:22:34
....Just don't expect the program to draw for you....

Yeah... That feature is kinda lame! It's no fun when the program does all the artwork for you! But i would also reccomend paint to do the art with! :)
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Grapefruitologist on Sat 28/01/2006 18:34:20
I use Paint too, and some people don't know how to draw on Paint, but that's probably because they're used to other programs. If I used a different program, I would have no clue what to do, and it would be really bad art.
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: A�rendyll (formerly Yurina) on Sat 28/01/2006 19:08:26
I probably shouldn't say this, but my first reaction to this thread was a big laugh. I tried RPG Toolkit, Game Maker, and some other gamecreators, but AGS is the most simple program you can get.

I have some guidelines which will bare you to death or which will learn you some things:
- I have to say Paint is the best program for making sprites. I always used Paint, and it's the best Painting program for basic sprites. The only downside is that it doen't support layers and only a few filetypes.
- Did you check out the site of Mr. Colossal? That site has really good tutorials to help with any type of graphics. There are tons of sites out there which offer free graphics and/or tutorials, just put some time in it.
- Ask other members which have help-icons beneath their avatar for help. I always do when I am stuck! ;D
- Be patient, games take time. A LOT time. Just don't expect to get a food game done in a week or two.
- Don't give up after only 2-3 tries. You can't be perfect at everything, but you can always learn new techniques.

I hope this helps!
~Yurina
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Steel Drummer on Fri 17/02/2006 16:03:16
Alright, I'm getting pretty good at sprites and I figure out how to do basically anything with AGS. Except I can't do backgrounds. Should I use PAINT to do the backgrounds also?
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Helm on Fri 17/02/2006 16:50:01
friends don't let friends use Paint. Graphics Gale, at least. I know it's an investment of time and resources to sit down and learn a new program, but paint is very basic and WILL limit your art even when you feel confident you can move on
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Nikolas on Fri 17/02/2006 18:20:28
There is something called Ultimate Paint, which I find much much better than paint, and easy to use (even for me).

There is also ArtGem, which I also use from time to time.

And I happened to come accross a sily little program called Photoshop (don't ask me how or why...). Either way I suck! But I use this too! Heck why not! My first BG was a nightmare to create, and to watch. Now I'm in the middle of redoing this first one, for the 4th time... At sometime (around 2010?) I will be happy and move to the next one. Tentative release of my game? 23 Feb 2065!!! ;D
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: lo_res_man on Fri 17/02/2006 18:43:09
Paint doesn'tÃ,  suck, for sprites anyway. Backrounds, yes, they don't look good when done in paint. butÃ,  itis just as good as anything forÃ,  320 sprites.Ã,  Take a look at this sprite and tell me it quote "sucks"

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/D_deputy.gif%3Cbr%20/%3E)

[edit] I find that the story is inconsistent with Indies charactor.
one he is not afraid of SNAKES. AS well Indie probebly think the whole thing is a waste of time, after all he was looking for the ark of the  covenant  in the first movie.
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Afflict on Sat 18/02/2006 02:21:04
Quote from: lo_res_man on Fri 17/02/2006 18:43:09
[edit] I find that the story is inconsistent with Indies charactor.
one he is not afraid of SNAKES.

Quote from: Raiders of the lost ark(1981)
Indiana Jones: There's a big snake in the plane, Jock!
Jock: Oh, that's just my pet snake Reggie.
Indiana Jones: I hate snakes, Jock! I hate 'em!
Jock: C'mon, show a little backbone, will ya?
http://www.garnersclassics.com/qark.htm]

No iam pretty sure he hates snakes.... I love indiana jones got the box set the websites on my harddrive etc.
What do you need to know?

Indi link doesnt work to your story yodaman11111 times out...
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: lo_res_man on Sat 18/02/2006 22:18:51
what I ment was YOUR charactor isn't afraid of snakes. in the first chapter, he goes past a bunch of 'em and not no sweat, but much less then is typical indie
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Steel Drummer on Mon 20/02/2006 23:50:04
Quote from: lo_res_man on Sat 18/02/2006 22:18:51
what I ment was YOUR charactor isn't afraid of snakes. in the first chapter, he goes past a bunch of 'em and not no sweat, but much less then is typical indie
I don't think either of you know Indy. For one you can't spell his name right  ;D and second; he IS afraid of snakes. And what do you mean YOUR character isn't afraid of snakes? Are you talking about Indy or what? And with this Indy game, I have started making it, using LucasRipper. A lot of the backgrnds though are going to be handmade. I just did rough copies of the hand-made ones and will use those paint programs you suggested to clean them up a bit.
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Afflict on Mon 20/02/2006 23:57:05
You go for it!
Title: Re: idea for game
Post by: Scummbuddy on Tue 21/02/2006 00:26:16
lo_res_man, I could see a case against Paint for character creation, and the allowance for it to be used for backgrounds.

I have seen some amazing Paint created backgrounds, where when making characters, perhaps layers would be very useful.

Now I'll go ahead and say that I use Paint for my chars and bgs and love it. I have to get used to DPaint.