I was thinking just now that the television show LOST might make an interesting game. The entire thing is a mystery and adventure...
Of course the game would have to be a lot shorter than the show takes to reveal things or the player would die of old age before completing a puzzle.
Your thoughts?
An official LOST game is already in the works. It'll probably suck.
I agree LOST could make an interesting adventure game, but it's nowhere near as good as 24 in my opinion, which would make a far better game (which has been done and i doubt would make a very good adventure game). What is the Lost game like? I searched but couldn't find much... There fore I guess if anytime is good - now would be a good time to release a Lost adventure game! ;)
But there arent alot of puzzles in the show, only thing i can think of is opening the hatch with the dynamite.
What about a Lost 1st person shooter. Your the monster and just kill everything ;D
Yes May 22nd was when the game was announced:
http://www.ubi.com/US/News/Info.aspx?nId=3957#
And there has been nothing on it since.
However going on this website while searching for a game of a show I've never even saw reminded me that the french bloke Benoit Sokal whatever (Don't tell me I'll only forget again) who did Syberia and Stilllife had released a game called "Paradise".
Still Life wasn't from Benoît Sokal. Amerzone, Syberia I-II, Paradise, and the new one The Sinking Island are his.
I don't see how the game could be any good, unless they have the original writers writing it and having the story somehow converge with the story in the series. Doing past events really doesn't make sense, because it'll be very difficult to incorporate new things into it. And doing something new to the existing characters will drive the fans crazy with fury.
Ah right sorry, just made by the same company.
Of course the game couldn't follow the story of the show exactly to make it more possible as a game, so more puzzle like sequences would be needed. Puzzles such as how to stop the alarm in the hatch, making survival apparati, and the like. Also gather supplies, building the raft, etc.
I'll take a guess that the official game is going to be a 3rd person, action/adventure game where you tote a gun and don't do much on the adventure end of the spectrum.
Just my opinion...
Just look at that dreadful Da Vinci Code Game. Tom Hanks' character BEATS PEOPLE UP IN THE MOST VIOLENT ATTACKS. (Same for the woman)
I've not seen the film, but I suspect Tom doesn't beat monks and coppers up in it.
I'm sorry, if I go a little off-topic here, but does LOST make any sense?
I don't know the show very well, but it's so incredibly confusing!
For example this button-pressing every whatever minute.
What is this freaking show about?
What is LOST about? that is a very intruging question...
Here's a quick rundown of the story so far:
Lost is the story of a bunch of poorly written characters who constantly act in irrational and inexplicable manners after being marooned on an island where weird things happen for reasons that not even the writers can figure out. On Lost, the only thing thinner the actress playing Kate is the plot, which writers try to fill in with flashbacks to parts of the characters' past that do nothing to further the story or add depth to the characters, but they do help in distracting you from the fact that the writers of the show have no clue whatsoever where they're going with all this.
I was going to make a joke about
QuoteI don't see how the game could be any good, unless they have the original writers writing it
but it's sort of pointless after Vince's post.
Maybe a game inspired by Lost would be better than a game based on it. I think one problem that tends to plague franchise-based games is that the action in the game tends to be periphery to whatever the main storyline is. As a result, whatever you end up doing in the game tends to be rather inconsequential.
Vince Twelve's comments are especially amusing in light of this thread (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=28932.0) about today's TV being more intelligent!
Lost as a game? Horrible idea. I don't want to play a game that has no known ending or resolution.
As for Vince's comments. I disagree.
Some of the characters aren't very well developed (yet). But others are VERY well developed and portrayed. Not to mention how perfectly (though maybe not known yet) tied together all the characters are.
The mid-season finale last week was one of the best hours of TV I've watched in a long time. They make you think one thing ... then reveal it as something else. It's an entertaining ride.
I, personally, believe the the writers of the show know exactly what they're doing. It's far too random and full of the un-explained to not have a final point in mind.
I think the thing the show suffers from the most is that it's very complicated and the world's attention span these days doesn't stretch much beyond worthless shit like MTV Cribs and crappy reality TV shows. They don't get the answers they want and are confused ... so instead of sticking it out and enjoying the mystery, they tune out and poke fun at it rather than giving it a chance (not specifically directed at you Vince).
If you think Lost is consistent with a real plan behind it, you're the one with a short attention span.
(Before you start, consider that my favorite show is Battlestar Galactica, which is just as complicated as Lost except it actually makes sense, in addition to being light-years ahead [pardon the pun] of Lost in terms of character, plot, thematic content, and just about everything else you could compare TV shows on.)
Quote from: Redwall on Mon 13/11/2006 21:52:51If you think Lost is consistent with a real plan behind it, you're the one with a short attention span.
Do you write for the show? Have you talked w/ the writers and had them say to you, "we don't know where the story is going"?
Somehow I doubt it.
But that's fine! If it's too complicated to hold some people's attention spans then they simply shouldn't watch it.
However, bad-mouthing it [or anything] before it's over just seems ... ignorant ... to me. How can you honestly say it has no plan (and is inconsistant) when you couldn't possibly know that yet?
Don't get me wrong ... you are, of course, entitled to your negative opinion on the show. I just don't get how you can say what you did when the show isn't over. It's a mystery. That's the point of it. It has just as much character, plot, and thematic content as BSG.
I love BSG. It's a great story, characters, etc. However, I've never seen
anything in Lost that is 1/10th the hoaky crap that is the cockpit chatter of BSG.
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Mon 13/11/2006 22:20:27
However, bad-mouthing it [or anything] before it's over just seems ... ignorant ... to me.
Like the Bush administration. All those ignorant people badmouthing him before he's done...
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Of course my comments above were exaggerated for comic effect, but I stand by the ideas that I was presenting. And I understand and agree your comment about a lot people not liking the show because it's too complicated. And I know it wasn't directed at me. I watch a lot of TV. I love the episodic format, long stories, and deep characters that are possible in TV. My three favorite shows are:
-The Wire, which if you haven't watched, you should. It is an incredibly deep, realistic look into the inner-workings of Baltimore. Cops, drug-lords, politicians, dock workers, thugs, and even kids. It's brilliant acting, writing, and filming. Buy the DVDs you won't be disappointed.
-Veronica Mars. This show is really complicated. Season 2 was too complicated for it's own good. People will instantly be turned off by this show's summary blurb ("High school [now college!] girl solves mysteries"). But it is one of the most entertaining shows on TV. With great mysteries and hilarious writing carrying it all the way.
-Battlestar Galactica. Everyone knows this show, so I don't need to summarize.
[Before I go any farther I just want to say that Lost SPOILERS will be scattered throughout this post and I'd rather not just hide the whole thing in spoiler tags, so BE WARNED: HERE BE SPOILERS!]
Now, I'm more than a casual watcher of Lost. I've watched every episode at least once, and my wife and I just went through season 1 on DVD again. The start of season two (first three-ish episodes) were some of the best television I could remember. But through season two, the show just kind of got... well... lost. The pace is sluggish. You have to agree that except for a few major revelations that we're waiting for (how did Locke get paralyzed? are Jack and Claire brother and sister?) we've sucked about all we can out of those flashbacks. In my mind, they're just acting as filler now.
Take the latest episode, which, unlike you, I thought was terribly dull. Kate got a new hubby and ended up running again. She called the cop not because she didn't want to run, but because she knew he'd come for her so she could run again. Like an excuse to run from marriage. It would have been an interesting story if we hadn't already seen it. We already know Kate likes to run. Whether it's away from men that she loves or towards stupid toy planes, Kate is always on the run and that's where she'll always be. It didn't further the character. It didn't add anything, and it was a waste of Nathan Fillion (swoon). I could have skipped through each flashback scene and I wouldn't have missed anything important.
This is all too frequent with the flashbacks. They're just taking time away from the far more interesting Island plot. (though when the flashbacks legitamately add something to the story on the island, I'm all for it)
And as for inconsistencies, why does one need to wait till the end of the show to point them out? There are a ton of characters that act in stupid and inconsistant manners just to move the plot to where the writers want. This is just sloppy writing. I think there are two ways to watch a show: passively and actively. A passive viewer will just sit back and enjoy the show and probably not even notice these inconsistencies and plot holes, while an active viewer will pay more attention and scrutinize the show.
As an active viewer, the moments when the characters ask all the stupid questions, but never the obvious important question, or when they keep secrets from each other for no reason other than it will cause some conflict later on, it makes me wonder if these writers even know who the characters are that they're writing. The stunning logical emptiness of Jack and Sayid's plan at the end of season 2 that led to their capture was baffling given their characters' usual leadership and strategic abilities. And Kate and Sawyer would rather hang around in their cages and have sex instead of running out into the jungle, hiding, and having sex? Yeah, they're not on their usual island, but there has to be a boat around to hijack right? Did these thoughts never cross Sawyer's mind? Finding out that he's on an island that's different from the one he thought he was on wouldn't make Sawyer just sit there and accept his fate and be killed. That's not Sawyer's character. He wouldn't stop and give up until he caught his name-sake, his life-long goal. Inconsistent to the character.
The writers are trying to create complex characters (though, in the case of many characters like Kate and Jack they're all defined by one leading character trait and never really grow beyond that) and we're just supposed to blame their inconsistent and irrational actions on their complexity, but it just doesn't work for me.
I still watch the show despite these flaws because the mystery of the island is legitamately compelling. I want to know what's going on, and I want to believe that the writers know what's going on, but after the way the show has slowly degraded over the past two seasons, and after the weak (in my opinion) first six episodes of this season, I just don't have enough faith in them.
Time will tell though. They still have plenty of time in their supposed five-year-ending-with-a-movie plan to turn this show around, drop the pointless flashbacks, and start answering some questions occasionally instead of just asking them. Otherwise, this show turns into late-season X-Files.
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Mon 13/11/2006 18:59:21
I, personally, believe the the writers of the show know exactly what they're doing.
The season 1 DVD commentary would suggest otherwise. Of course J.J. does a lot of joking around, so it's hard to tell. However, it seems to be made up as it goes along, the director says it's made up as it goes along, so...
Personally, I watched the first, maybe 6 episodes of lost, got completely bored with the nonesenciality of the whole shebang and stopped watching. I believe it saved my sanity. It is a bad, over-hyped piece of shite which a turd of mine could write better.
Vince - some valid points. I guess I'm more of a passive watcher of the show. I simply enjoy the mystery and go with it. I have a suspicion that, in the end, it'll all tie together nicely. But who knows? I could just as easily be wrong and it's just a big social experiment by the writers to see how far they can confuse us and in the end it'll all be an evil type-writer that has come alive.
Quote from: Vince Twelve on Mon 13/11/2006 23:54:31It didn't add anything, and it was a waste of Nathan Fillion (swoon).
Do I sense a fellow browncoat in our midst??
Steve - I can't imagine that, even if they make up the stuff as it goes along, they don't have an end-all goal in mind. Perhaps you're right and my above statement may come to pass. It would be upsetting and I highly doubt that's the case.
Quote from: Layabout on Tue 14/11/2006 01:42:22Personally, I watched the first, maybe 6 episodes of lost, got completely bored with the nonesenciality of the whole shebang and stopped watching. I believe it saved my sanity. It is a bad, over-hyped piece of shite which a turd of mine could write better.
What were we saying about attention spans?? :P
There was this thing. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Experience) But it was kind of stupid and I never got into it.
As with all games nowadys it'l probably be a FPS and blow. If not then it will probably take the form of a Myst style explore and solve with various action sequences like those in Dragon's Lair and the likes. I can't really see it working any other way.
Its unbelievable what crap they will put into games.
As ManicMutt mentioned with the DaVinci code Tom Hanks Beating up Moks and women. He didn't do any of that in the Movie.
Not a fan of lost I watched maybe half an episode, and game back surfing the forums and pixeling some art. Regardless of my opinion many other people watch the show and thinks its awesome. Well obviously enough for the game company to risk making a title, probably only on consoles IMHO.
Let me shock you guys some more.... They have made a Desperate Housewives PC GAME! And if memory serves me correct a BOARD GAME too!
Sigh...
Yes, Inflict! Someone I know who is reading the Dan Brown novel says there's violence with Tom's character, but even so, if the film doesn't, and the game is based on the film, not the book, then my point still stands. (Which you agree with anyways)
Desperate housewives: THE GAME! From looking at the back of the case out of curiousity, it looks like Sims Lite.
Apparently, in Catwoman the game, due to contractual license agrrements or something, you had to kick men in dustbins/wardrobes to "kill" them. They won't die otherwise! (Read that in a magazine)
EDIT: Har har! Very funny! Kick men INTO dustbins, then.
Kicking me in the dustbins would certainly put me out for a few.
I like lost. But like others have said it would only be playable as an adventure game and even then quite weak.
I like Lost too. Not sure I'd want to play it as a game, though, adventure or otherwise.
I don't agree that the writing's bad in Lost though. I find it interesting, with good characters, and with very very few Holodeck (equivalent) episodes. Also, the fact that the story in Alias keeps its momentum well into the 4th series (not seen the 5th yet) fills me with hope that J.J.A can do it again with Lost.
Battlestar Galactica was great for the first 2 series but now is starting to get a bit iffy. And they really need to stop saying "Frak". It doesn't make it sound futuristic, and it isn't a clever substitute for swearing. It's just shit.
why make a game?
lost is one of my favourite programmes. as a game, i cant see how it would possibly be good.
Quote from: Hammerite on Tue 21/11/2006 18:21:19
why make a game?
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good enough answer for me ;D
Quote from: CaptainBinky on Mon 20/11/2006 15:17:23
Battlestar Galactica was great for the first 2 series but now is starting to get a bit iffy. And they really need to stop saying "Frak". It doesn't make it sound futuristic, and it isn't a clever substitute for swearing. It's just shit.
Frak you, Mister Nitpickety W. McNitpick! (where W. stands for Whiner!)
If details like their preferred swear word makes a show less enjoyable, your priorities are fracked. Additionally, yes, it's been somewhat iffy, but don't forget this is the last season, so it's all winding down (and they have less time to do it in than originally planned). I'm still enjoying every new episode, and I doubt I'll stop watching before the season ends.
Feck off!
Quotebut don't forget this is the last season, so it's all winding down (and they have less time to do it in than originally planned).
What the fuck are you smoking? Like hell it's the last season.
Quote from: Redwall on Wed 22/11/2006 19:30:28
What the fuck are you smoking? Like hell it's the last season.
:o No no!!!!!!!
Please say "what the frak" or "What the feck" ;D
Felgercarb.
feck worked in father ted because that's an actual irish slang word.
frak sounds weird
I kind of like the way they use Frack ... it's blatantly like saying Fuck without actually saying it. I don't know ...
It's just a gorram word.
This topic is going to ship.
Back on topic...
It may work as a sort of survival/strategy/adventure game, where diferent castaways would have diferent skills/assets.
Jack would be good with medical things, Sayid works with electronics, Locke can track and hunt, Sun is good at botany/plant lore and is bilingual. Then you assign diferent characters various tasks, explore/map the island, try not to get any of the castaways killed.
Quote from: mkennedy on Sat 25/11/2006 03:35:36
Then you assign diferent characters various tasks, explore/map the island, try not to get any of the castaways killed.
Or, if you wanted to stay more faithful to the show, you could assign different characters various tasks, not even attempt to map the island, ignore important plot points, keep unnecessary secrets, never speak to 80% of the people you're marooned with, and act in completely self-indulgent manners.
That game would kick-ass!