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Community => Adventure Related Talk & Chat => Topic started by: Dan_N on Wed 06/09/2006 16:17:04

Title: meh
Post by: Dan_N on Wed 06/09/2006 16:17:04
I know that I probably won't get many replies to this, 'cause I don't think many people will even remeber this game, but The Adventures of Fatman, the first comercial AGS game, if I'm not mistaken, won't damn well run! Just as it's about to start, it gives me an error that it can't load it's darn AgsCreditz.dll. I checked, it's THERE! I tried putting it in a number of different directories, but it still won't run it...

Could some-one please help me with this?
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Wed 06/09/2006 17:21:34
That's odd.  The most obvious thing to do is check the spelling and capitalization.  If that fails you could try a different version of the dll or redownload the game.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Wed 06/09/2006 17:29:44
Nope.
Still, it is "unable to load plugin: AgsCreditz.dll".
I don't know what to do...
Links don't work...
Now th game doesn't work.
The world has gone mad! Mad I tell you!

So, anyway, has anyone else had this problem, or could you possibly suggest another download site?
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Sektor 13 on Wed 06/09/2006 18:35:06
You are not runing it in Linux are you ?
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Wed 06/09/2006 18:41:12
Unfortunately, I do not have the mental capacity or the harddisk space required to even installing Linux.

And in the future, although I enjoy a good laugh, please post serious replies in this thread.

I really want to play this game.

Thank you.

(this was the calmed version of the reply)
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Candle on Wed 06/09/2006 18:43:35
click the Start Menu, click "Run...", type the following code and then click OK:
regsvr32 "FULLPATH\AgsCreditz.dll"
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Wed 06/09/2006 18:47:24
Nope, a window appears that says:
LoadLibrary("c:\fatman\AgsCreditz.dll") failed. GetLastError returns 0x0000001f.

Bare in mind I have Win98.

Also, if this helps, there is some information displayed in brackets "()" in the window where the "unable to load plugin" error appears when I start Fatman.
It says: "ACI version 2.54.523NMP".
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Erenan on Wed 06/09/2006 18:51:44
Look at the error message right there. It looks as though you misspelled it as AgsCretitz.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Wed 06/09/2006 19:00:18
Despite the fit of laughter I was thrown after viewing your post and mine, I am a bltihering idiot. Besides, I wrote fast so that is a clear mistake on MY behalf.
So, I'm now going to replace the t with d.
Thank you for pointing that out.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Khris on Wed 06/09/2006 19:01:13
The downloadable file is called "agsCreditz.dll", so check your spelling and capitalisation.
I don't think Sektor 13's reply was a joke, so use whatever fills your "mental capacity" before replying like that.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Wed 06/09/2006 19:13:08
Indeed, I had mispelled, both in the run and here, and I rectified that mistake, but to no result.

And about Sektor's reply, come on, do you really think I'm that stupid to run a windows game in linux? Of course, there are windows emulator for linux, but I really think that was a joke. A bad one at that.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Kweepa on Wed 06/09/2006 19:58:28
Quote from: Dan_N_GameZ on Wed 06/09/2006 19:13:08
And about Sektor's reply, come on, do you really think I'm that stupid to run a windows game in linux?
Sektor was asking about the linux version of AGS. But I think we got the answer.
I would guess that either AgsCreditz.dll is corrupt; or you don't have some DLLs that AgsCreditz relies on, and that are part of the standard Windows distribution from Win2k on.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Wed 06/09/2006 20:05:17
Oh course the problem lies in DLLs. It's always a matter of DLLs. I hate DLLs! DLLs haunt my nightmares!

But still...

Maybe it is a problem of something-that-is-not-dll-related.

One (me) can only hope...

But still...

If anyone has any ideeas, please, for the love of the children! Think of the children!
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Scummbuddy on Wed 06/09/2006 21:21:30
I'm afraid to give my ideas as I may get yelled at like Sektor got.

Well, anyways.. have you re-downloaded the agscreditz plugin? and overwrote the file?

Where did you get this fatman game? try redownloading and overwriting the game as well if the new plugin doesnt work either.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Candle on Wed 06/09/2006 23:07:48
Might want to check if it is read only and change it if it is.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: BOYD1981 on Thu 07/09/2006 01:01:51
Quote from: SteveMcCrea on Wed 06/09/2006 19:58:28
Sektor was asking about the linux version of AGS. But I think we got the answer.
I would guess that either AgsCreditz.dll is corrupt; or you don't have some DLLs that AgsCreditz relies on, and that are part of the standard Windows distribution from Win2k on.

i know for a fact this game runs on win98se so that's not likely to be it, but it could be he's running the first edition which may be missing some stuff but it's a long shot...
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Thu 07/09/2006 07:34:59
Nope.
Sorry, guys, I tried all your ideeas (besides Boyd's 'cause I didn't know what stuff that is). I downloaded the new plug-in, and it wanted a newer version of the AGS interface (wanted v12, Fatman has v10). And I also cleared the read-only attribute for all files. Nothing.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: ManicMatt on Thu 07/09/2006 10:13:59
Nah, this is an example of what a bad joke is:

Fatman won't run because he's too fat.

HA!
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 07/09/2006 10:16:35
Where did you get the game? How was it distributed? Was it a CD ISO image or other format?

As far as I remember, I got the internet archived full 200+MB ISO version which worked for me (links available from the related underdogs page), if you're already using that version I can't suggest more.

I originally suspect that it could be a path problem, as AGS stuff might not work well if the files are put in a path with certain folder names (especially for older version of AGS and when there're long folder names with characters not acceptable in DOS), but as you wrote some post above that the path was just "c:\fatman\" that shouldn't be a problem (unless of course you made that up in the post and it was actually installed in some odd path).
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Thu 07/09/2006 12:11:54
No, Gilboot, I got the smaller version from the underdogs. And indeed that is the correct path to my fatman.

The ISO is just to damn big!
Besides, I wouldn't know how the hell to run it.

And Matt, yes the title is a reference to the joke you just posted. Thank you mister state the obvious.

So, people, Fatman is still lying on his fat arse on my harddrive. Please help me...

Or hold me, it's your choice...
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 07/09/2006 12:16:43
Quote from: Dan_N_GameZ on Thu 07/09/2006 12:11:54
The ISO is just to damn big!
Besides, I wouldn't know how the hell to run it.

Many options:
1. Burn it to a CD and use it to install.
2. Extract the content via programmes that can do it (e.g. 7-ZIP and any of those ISO utilities floating around) and install it.
3. Install a virtual CD driver like Daemon Tools and mount the image as a CD.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Thu 07/09/2006 12:47:48
Yes, thank you Gilboot, but as I stated before, I just don't have the space, nor do I have the CD-writer. I just can't. But input is good.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Chicky on Thu 07/09/2006 12:55:14
I said it before and i'll say it again. Get a new pc. Stop pestering us about a problem that is obviously to do with your pc.

Do you ever run virus or spyware scanners?
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Thu 07/09/2006 13:25:29
Fine, I'll just change the title to solved and then we can all go to our (own) beds and sleep. But remember this: I will haunt your nightmares! Mwahahahahaha!

PS: I don't have any freaking money! Hello!

PPS: Now I'm pissed. Hope you're happy.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run... (solved, aka people don't give a crap about help
Post by: Sam. on Thu 07/09/2006 13:44:30
 :)
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: ManicMatt on Thu 07/09/2006 14:01:55
Quote from: Dan_N_GameZ on Thu 07/09/2006 12:11:54
And Matt, yes the title is a reference to the joke you just posted. Thank you mister state the obvious.

You can talk, mister my-avatar-has-a-man-holding-a-shotgun-and-I-need-to-tell-you-that!

Or maybe it's because the shotgun is so massive it looks like some kind of rocket launcher.. :P
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run... (solved, aka people don't give a crap about helping)
Post by: on Thu 07/09/2006 14:18:12
Try downloading the Zip from http://www.screen7.co.uk/games/
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run... (solved, aka people don't give a crap about help
Post by: SSH on Thu 07/09/2006 14:20:45
The problem may be that there is another incompatible copy of the DLL in your windows directory or DLL search path. Try searching the whoel computer for the file and see if it is somewhere liek that.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about helping)
Post by: Dan_N on Thu 07/09/2006 15:49:57
Hope you're laughing now zooty, 'cause soon ya won't be laughing at all!

And Matt, what is your problem with my shotgun? I like my shotgun. It is a good shotgun. I can use it to threaten people like zooty.

mods, you devil you, I saw you on the fullyramblomatic forums... by the way, downloading NOW.

SSH, I remeber trying to use agsCreditz some time ago, so I'll make a sweep.

Update:Nope, same problem. Am I doomed? SSH, I looked for the file, but no, I had a credits.dll, made by you, but that's it. And I deleted that.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about helping)
Post by: Alynn on Thu 07/09/2006 17:26:40
Ok Dan, this is a complete and total crapshoot... but here we go

AGS Creditz 2.0 (http://www.yelloweyedstudio.com/data/agsCreditz2.dll)

Now this is agsCreditz2.dll, so throw it in there with the exe and rename it to agsCreditz.dll and see if it works for you...

Hopefully the difference between v2 and v1 was just things were added, and nothing was changed...

Long shot most likely, but I know this dll works
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about helping)
Post by: Ishmael on Thu 07/09/2006 17:55:43
2 is about a complete rewrite, if I remember correctly. So it won't.

Try getting the AGS version the game was compiled with (it should appear somewhere, either in the exe details or the setup or somewhere), then renaming the Fatman exe to ac2game.ags, placing ACWIN.EXE from the AGS zip in the same directory and running it. And before doing that, re-unzip all the stuff from the whatever you got the game from, to get the versions of everything included with the game. Additionally, grab the other DLLs that come with the AGS version and stick them in that directory.

Or what if I pretend to hold you but let go at the last moment?

Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about helping)
Post by: Dan_N on Thu 07/09/2006 18:38:39
Yes, Alynn, that was a crapshot as I stated earlier that agsCreditz.dll v2 doesn't work. It requires a newer interface for the AGS with which the game was compiled. Apparently, v1 was detected, but it requires v12.

Ishmael, you're sugesting I run the game with AGS itself. Fine, what the freak? We'll try the holding stuff later.

(angry dan metter: high)

Update: Nope, gave me the same error. "Unable to load plugin: agsCreditz.dll". It's holding time! ... You jerk, you let go at the last moment! I hate you! ... No I don't I love you!

(this has been a joke made by a perfectly heterosexual male)

(angry dan metter: maintaining at high)
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about helping)
Post by: on Thu 07/09/2006 18:54:35
I have a new idea...

Give up.




Or go play it on a friends PC.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about help
Post by: Becky on Thu 07/09/2006 18:54:55
It does sound like you've got some spyware or virus that is not letting your computer access DLLs properly, if no versions of the DLL seem to work.  Try scanning for those things and see what comes up.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about helping)
Post by: Dan_N on Thu 07/09/2006 19:14:21
With what?
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about help
Post by: Becky on Thu 07/09/2006 19:19:08
Um, an anti-virus or anti-spyware program?

Like AVG Free, Ad-Aware, Spybot Search & Destroy...even Windows Defender.

If you've never scanned for viruses/spyware...therein may lie your problem.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about helping)
Post by: Dan_N on Thu 07/09/2006 19:24:48
Aha! Bing bing bing bing bing bing bing! Yahtzee! Bingo! I think we may have cracked it gents. But I'm still not sure.

Will Romanian Antivirus 6 work?
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about help
Post by: Becky on Thu 07/09/2006 19:25:37
Um, possibly?

Those that I listed are free to download and highly effective, though.

Edit: Note that Chicky mentioned it was probably virus/spyware a few posts earlier.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about help
Post by: Sektor 13 on Thu 07/09/2006 19:27:35
BTW my post was not meant to be a joke !
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about helping)
Post by: Dan_N on Thu 07/09/2006 19:30:32
Yes, I know that now, sorry...
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...(not solved, aka people do give a crap about helping)
Post by: ciborium on Fri 08/09/2006 04:11:00
Umm... I don't remember if Win98 supports it, but did you try to run Microsoft Update from their website?  And make sure you have all the service packs installed?

I had to do that today to get one of the computers at work today to run a program properly.  It had Win2k.

Like was said before, it may be a .dll problem, and it may be corrected in a service pack or an update.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Sun 10/09/2006 21:04:42
Thank you ciborium, but I'd rather not, 'cause I don't think that anything can be squeezed out of Microsoft without paying anything, so sorry, but thanks.

Alrighty then, that's all folks!

Yep, ladies and gents, I'm killin' the thread. It's done, kaput, lying unconscios waiting for one last slash. I'm givin' up. Thank you all for the input, but let's face it, there's only one thing that can truely be done to solve this situation: get a newer and better computer, for heaven's sake. So, that's all she wrote. But thank you anyway, and remember: input is good.

Kudos!
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run... [SOLVED]
Post by: Ionias on Sat 16/09/2006 04:55:10
Sorry just now seen this thread. I have the orginal file I can upload you. I need somewhere to host it to.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Sat 16/09/2006 08:55:48
Oh, my god!

Maybe there is still hope. I'll google for some free filehosting...
Oh, and could you please zip it for dos?

PS: I clicked on your fatman link in your signature just out of curiosity... and noticed that it took me to the original ISO. Now I hope you're not offering me the iso, are you?
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Ionias on Sat 16/09/2006 13:40:10
No. I have the orginial .dll file. I have no idea what you mean when you ask to .zip it for DOS. The only thing I have is WinZip. The file is only 145k so it shouldn't be a big deal. Just need  a spot to upload it to, maybe your email inbox?
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Dan_N on Sat 16/09/2006 18:25:27
What exactly do you mean, by "upload to my emails box"? The only email I have is Yahoo.com's free email for when you register of the Messenger. Is that any good?
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: on Sat 16/09/2006 18:30:12
Dan, PM him your working email address and it will save us all pages and pages of replies.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: Ionias on Sat 16/09/2006 18:31:44
We can always try it. Privte msg me here with your email address so I can email you. When you get the email look for the File as an attachment. You'll download the file from there.
Title: Re: Fatman doesn't wanna run...
Post by: lemmy101 on Wed 20/09/2006 13:53:03
Have you tried getting a dog to chase him? These people sometimes just need to proper motivation...

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, I struggled against it but couldn't resist :D hope you get it sorted...

EDIT: Whoops, just reread your post on page one. Sorry :-S I'd delete if AGS would let me...
Title: Re: Fatman is running and fighting crime too! Huzzah!
Post by: Dan_N on Wed 20/09/2006 18:18:16
HUZZAH!!!

Finally, with the help of Ionias' original dll, it managed to start. So there all you people who told me to get a new computer, it worked without getting a new computer  :P!

Now, finally, this thread can die... hopefully, if a moderator sees it...

Thanks to all those who helped!

PS: lemmy, don't worry, at least you didn't say that this thread is stupid and you didn't tell me to get a new PC, so no foul... ;) in fact, I found your post quite funny...