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Title: My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: on Thu 22/01/2004 02:57:14
Well...the next AGS update should be another Service Pack for 2.6! Then...an upgrade to 3.0 with new features & many bug fixes from the 2nd service pack for 2.6!

The 3.0 upgrade release should be done 40 weeks after the 2.6 SP2 release.

the 3.0 upgrade should have the following...

*Manual Compiler for distributing games into executables

*Bug fixes from 2.6 Service Pack 2 (if ever released.)

*Cutscene Editor/Creator feature (where instead of coding to make a cutscene, you can create one inside the editor withotu the hassle of learning the scripting language.)

*Automatic program updater (Updates AGS automatically (basic bugfixes, editor updater, run-time errors, etc.))
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That is just my opinion, but some might agree with me.


Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: DGMacphee on Thu 22/01/2004 03:26:38
Why not just call it version 2.7?

Why 3.0?

Also, why a need manual compiler when AGS's internal compiler already makes EXE files?
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Goldmund on Thu 22/01/2004 04:10:00
Sshhhhhh, DGM!

The man has a vision.

Version Number 3 stands for the Holy Trinity, 3 great monoteist religions of the world and number of eyes of a 3-eyed man.

The 40 weeks period clearly points to the number of days of Jesus Christ's fast on the desert.

Manual compiler signifies that, tied to our computers, we should not forget about manual labour (as Saint Joseph was a carpenter).

Cutscene Creator is a reflection of the False Demiurgus, the gnostic earthly deity who manufactures the material world, which is but a cutscene in our existence.

Automatic Updater, much like the spirit of an enlightened man, maintains a constant connection with the Motherlode of Ideas (heaven, simply put).

Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: DGMacphee on Thu 22/01/2004 04:18:57
Oh, of course -- how stupid of me!
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Layabout on Thu 22/01/2004 05:13:05
I'm Stupified!!!  :-\
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 22/01/2004 05:43:33
The one question i have is, why 40 weeks?
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 22/01/2004 05:44:02
The one question i have is, why 40 weeks?

edit: apparently this one question was so important AGSforums felt it was necessary to post twice
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Gregjazz on Thu 22/01/2004 06:31:23
Quote from: Goldmund on Thu 22/01/2004 04:10:00
Sshhhhhh, DGM!

The man has a vision.

Version Number 3 stands for the Holy Trinity, 3 great monoteist religions of the world and number of eyes of a 3-eyed man.

The 40 weeks period clearly points to the number of days of Jesus Christ's fast on the desert.

Manual compiler signifies that, tied to our computers, we should not forget about manual labour (as Saint Joseph was a carpenter).

Cutscene Creator is a reflection of the False Demiurgus, the gnostic earthly deity who manufactures the material world, which is but a cutscene in our existence.

Automatic Updater, much like the spirit of an enlightened man, maintains a constant connection with the Motherlode of Ideas (heaven, simply put).



Hahahahah, this post is just too funny!
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Captain Mostly on Thu 22/01/2004 09:38:52
I'm puzzled...
I think I've missed the point here...
is this just a suggestion on how CJ should number his releases? Or is it a request for some features? Or both?

Plus: Is there any point having a script-less cut scene system, when it's basically no-longer possible to make an AGS game without learning basic scripting any way?
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Ishmael on Thu 22/01/2004 11:26:54
I see no need.....

/me calls down an airstrike at PhilRoberts2004's cordinates

I didn't do anything!
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Meowster on Thu 22/01/2004 15:15:50
I agree with you.

QuoteWell...the next AGS update should be another Service Pack for 2.6! Then...an upgrade to 3.0 with new features & many bug fixes from the 2nd service pack for 2.6!

Why didn't I ever think of this?


QuoteThe 3.0 upgrade release should be done 40 weeks after the 2.6 SP2 release.

Yeah, it's ridiculous having it released any sooner. Think of all the manatees.


Quote
the 3.0 upgrade should have the following...

*Manual Compiler for distributing games into executables

*Bug fixes from 2.6 Service Pack 2 (if ever released.)

*Cutscene Editor/Creator feature (where instead of coding to make a cutscene, you can create one inside the editor withotu the hassle of learning the scripting language.)

*Automatic program updater (Updates AGS automatically (basic bugfixes, editor updater, run-time errors, etc.))

The compiler that AGS already has is useless. I mean, those executables are clearly fake. As for Bug Fixes... are you a genius or something? CJ would never have thought of this! You should patent that idea. As for Cutscene Editor, that would eliminate the need for that pesky MoveCharacter command which I can never remember. And finally, Automatic Program Updates! Just what I need alongside my Windows Update, Windows Media Player Update, Realplayer Update, AIM Update, MSN Update, Xupiter Update, ClockSync Update, and Virus Update!!!

You're a genius. If you wanna talk about collaborating on your next MAJOR game, my AIM handle is YufsterChan, or MSN is Yufster@Hotmail.Com.
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Andail on Thu 22/01/2004 18:16:06
Good thing you advice CJ to fix all the bugs while upgrading to a new version.

Since he's only released around thirtyfive versions so far, with roughly as many bugs fixed on each one, he might just forget it next time.

Here's a kick-ass advice for you my friend:
Give the engine a serious try. This will have two nice side-effects:

1. You will know what the heck you are talking about
2. You will be morally justified to make requests of new functions
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Vel on Thu 22/01/2004 18:22:48
 :o But of course! How could have CJ been so foolish!
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Archangel (aka SoupDragon) on Thu 22/01/2004 20:24:11
You forgot MaekMyGame(), something that I've been bugging CJ about for AGES now. God, that man is such an incompetent.
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Mr Jake on Thu 22/01/2004 20:27:40
Quote from: Archangel (aka SoupDragon) on Thu 22/01/2004 20:24:11
God, that man is such an incompetent.

yeah CJ, we aren't not paying you for nothing  >:(
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Ishmael on Thu 22/01/2004 20:38:40
Ah, how could I have missed that! You are right!

/me cancels the airstrike he didn't call down

Man, after AGS 3.0 it will be renamed to Teh Ult1mate Adventuer Creationing Rox0rz Program[\b]!!!

And I still haven't seen the MakeMeTheKingOfTheEntireWORLDAndGiveMeTheAGSSourceCodeSoICanRuleEverything(int inhowmanymilliseconds); command...

CJ, speed your work, and, finally, fix that annoying bug that lets people to bypass the engine limits and script something incredibly great and beautiful and wonderfully working stuffs!

And again, Phil, sorry for my stupidity.
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: rodekill on Thu 22/01/2004 22:34:19
I think he should start calling it the AGS Suite, because it sounds neat.

WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111!!!1
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: TheYak on Thu 22/01/2004 23:28:34
Well, the game part is a bit redundant.  The engine could also be used for making Adventure movie-type things with no interaction (if someone really wanted to).  However, the Suite addition does add a touch of professionalism and class.  Therefore, henceforth AGS shall be known as Adventure Studio Suite.  I will be even more proud to be a member of A.S.S.
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Domino on Fri 23/01/2004 00:12:45
yep, this is one A.S.S. i'm glad i got my dirty paws all over.
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Layabout on Fri 23/01/2004 07:43:20
I'd pay CJ a whole australian dollar if he changed it to ASS.
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: LordHart on Fri 23/01/2004 23:01:04
Quote from: YakSpit on Thu 22/01/2004 23:28:34
Well, the game part is a bit redundant.  The engine could also be used for making Adventure movie-type things with no interaction (if someone really wanted to).

Thats what I'm doing mostly first with some things to learn to code a bit better and also try out my character animations and so forth...

At the moment thought, my character animations suck ASS...

And while on the topic of ass, imagine if CJ does change the name and somebody seaches google, looking for some ass shots or whatever, and they come here looking for porn... that'd be funs!
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: jannar85 on Sat 24/01/2004 00:18:33
I think God will be proud of you, Phil. But what about the MakeBackground() command?
It would come in use of those who can't paint :P Oh, and let's not forget MakeTorinsPassage()! That would help you a lot :)

I say go for it. Go make AGS 3.0 for us, Phil!


** edit **
Oh, and don't tell me you can't do it. That would piss me off.
I'm counting on you, Phil!
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: shbaz on Sat 24/01/2004 02:30:10
Wow I can't believe I missed this whole post! I thought Phil had gone away for a while again, and I missed his dreamy bod.

(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.geocities.com/pmrjav_2004/philroberts.JPG)

I can tell he spent a lot of time thinking about this, so why are you guys being so critical of his opinion?
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Gilbert on Sat 24/01/2004 09:57:12
I think the most important feature of AGS V3.0 (if it's still called AGS) is *ba da dum!* the hidden function:

SendAllMoneyToCJ() which always execute once while starting a game and deleting sprites in AGSEdit.exe.
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: on Sat 24/01/2004 20:59:28
After the latest bug discoveries, it is from my predicitions that there will be another Service Pack or a new version.

BE PREPARED ALL!

Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Vel on Sat 24/01/2004 21:02:12
You are so wise! You can even forsee the future! :o :o
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Meowster on Sat 24/01/2004 21:06:39
You guys should be ashamed, you're acting like bullies.
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: TheYak on Sun 25/01/2004 04:50:04
  "Judgement day is at hand!" ... "Are ye prepared?"  "Doom, doom *mutter*, *mutter* DOOM!"
"Have you prepared your soul for the second coming of AGS 2.6? Will you fall victim to temptations of the bugs?"
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: DGMacphee on Sun 25/01/2004 13:06:06
<insert random snide comment>
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: LGM on Sun 25/01/2004 14:30:36
Phil.. You're a troll.. It's so obvious.

Please leave and stop starting ridiculous posts and arguments.. I'm sure you think it's funny, but please leave. If this is all you're gonna do, just leave.. We don't want trolls here. They're big, stupid, ugly, and useless..

So leave. Now.
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: LordHart on Sun 25/01/2004 20:34:57
"Doom, doom *mutter*, *mutter* DOOM!"

ROTD... wooh! :P
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Layabout on Mon 26/01/2004 12:25:58
I think it would be better if I just kept my mouth shut (so to speak...)
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Hinders on Wed 28/01/2004 21:13:38
*edit*
mkay..no offence...man... :(
Title: Re:My personal opinion on next AGS update!
Post by: Ishmael on Thu 29/01/2004 20:54:45
QuoteSo leave. Now.

Hmm... "Go now, leave, vanish, please" just to quote something...

No offence!