SCIV resource viewer?

DarkRiver Design · Wed 07/01/2004 18:40:34

Does anyone know where I can get an SCIV resource viewer. I already SCI Studio, but you can only look at plain SCI resources.

My purpose for wanting is that I would like to rip some the characters from SCIV games, particularly King's Quest 6. If anyone knows a more efficient way to do it, I would be eternally grateful.

Do0kie · Wed 07/01/2004 22:48:34

Yeah, I'd need a sprite ripper for Sierra games, like SCUMM Costume Ripper for Lucasarts. Or whatever, something that'll rip Larry out of the land of lounge lizards.

Scummbuddy · Sat 10/01/2004 16:28:19

Printscreen, alt-tab, paste in MSPaint

DarkRiver Design · Sat 10/01/2004 17:09:59

Wow. That was helpful, Scumm. I wouldn't have figured that one out by myself.

Sorry, no, there's got to be a more efficient way than that.

Besides, KQ5, KQ6, and KQ7 freeze my system if they are minimized and you try to back to them. That means I have to take a screenshot, save my game, quit, paste in paint, save the picture, reopen the game, load my save, move my character to the next frame of animation (which would be very hard), print screen, etc.

Then after all THAT would come the hard part of cutting the character out of the background. So forgive me if I don't take your advice.

Pumaman · Sat 10/01/2004 19:19:18

There is SDV (SCI Decoder VGA) which can extract the resources from the very early VGA games (SQ4 and KQ5) - but for the later games like KQ6 there's currently no application I know of that will do it.

SCI Studio 4 will support it, but it's not released yet.

Robert Eric · Sat 10/01/2004 22:31:20

You could always learn the structure of SCI and create your own program to do it, like most of us have done.

MrColossal · Sun 11/01/2004 00:07:19

most of us?

what?

LordHart · Sun 11/01/2004 00:26:04

Oh no! Robert, you got rid of that detective dog avatar! :'(

BerserkerTails · Sun 11/01/2004 18:22:36

QuoteSorry, no, there's got to be a more efficient way than that.

Well, there really isn't. Not until SCI Studio 4 is released anyway. So if you're REALLY dedicated to making your game, you'll do it this way. I've had to do this for quite a few animations as only REFERENCE for the game I'm working on right now.

Believe me, it makes it VERY rewarding.

Do0kie · Sun 11/01/2004 21:17:30

Quote from: Scummbuddy on Sat 10/01/2004 16:28:19
Printscreen, alt-tab, paste in MSPaint

If you do that using Windows XP you're good.

LordHart · Sun 11/01/2004 22:59:32

It actually isn't that hard to do... $:-\$

MrColossal · Sun 11/01/2004 23:12:52

actually it is Ultimo, as he said in a post:

"Besides, KQ5, KQ6, and KQ7 freeze my system if they are minimized and you try to back to them. That means I have to take a screenshot, save my game, quit, paste in paint, save the picture, reopen the game, load my save, move my character to the next frame of animation (which would be very hard), print screen, etc."

that makes it pretty damned hard

Robert Eric · Mon 12/01/2004 00:15:30

Quote
You could always learn the structure of SCI and create your own program to do it, like most of us have done.

I guess not many have. Chris made an SCI font viewing program way before or during AC, I think. I've made some SCI1/SCIV VIEW and PICTURE viewers/rippers using documentation from the FreeSCI and Brian's websites. It's not very hard, I'd recommend you all give it a try just for fun. It's easy to do it in VB.NET, if you want to try.

LordHart · Mon 12/01/2004 19:34:02

Quote from: MrColossal on Sun 11/01/2004 23:12:52
actually it is Ultimo, as he said in a post:

"Besides, KQ5, KQ6, and KQ7 freeze my system if they are minimized and you try to back to them. That means I have to take a screenshot, save my game, quit, paste in paint, save the picture, reopen the game, load my save, move my character to the next frame of animation (which would be very hard), print screen, etc."

that makes it pretty damned hard

Well, it never did that when I played those games on a computer with XP. But then again, I think I might have been using Abandon Loader...

DarkRiver Design · Mon 12/01/2004 20:59:56

I don't have WinXP... I have Win98, which I downgraded from WinME. Not to be rude, but just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean that I'm lying. And I've never heard of Abandon Loader.

Do you guys know when SCI Studio 4 is coming out? I haven't visited the website for a long time, but the last version I have is something like 3.12.6 or something like that (made up number). If it does all those things, that would be awesome.

Also, I can't figure out how to open Space Quest 3 in SCI Studio. The only games I can get to work are King's Quest 4 and Laura Bow (I have the KQ, GK, and SQ collections, I lost my QFG collection). There is no SCIV.exe to open, at least on my comp.

And Freddy, maybe you have the time to go and learn the inner-workings of SCI code and program your own app like "most of us," but between school, homework, and life in general, it would be pretty hard for me to. And I'm not trying to be rude at all. I simply doubt that "most of us" have learned SCI programming and have created our own applications to rip sprites from King's Quest 6.

By the way, I feel really stupid about the first post on this topic. I didn't read it before posting, and I'm missing a lot of words. Wow. I sound like a retard. Sorry. "I already SCI Studio" and "My purpose for wanting is that I would like to rip some the characters..." SHEESH!

LordHart · Mon 12/01/2004 21:35:19

Quote from: ShockingBlue on Mon 12/01/2004 20:59:56
I don't have WinXP... I have Win98, which I downgraded from WinME. Not to be rude, but just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean that I'm lying. And I've never heard of Abandon Loader.

I never did say that you were lying. $:-\$

Anyway, Abandon Loader is a freeware program that allows you to run old games in XP, but can be run with Win98. If you use it, you might be able to get what you want without needing to do all the stuff you said.

And SCI Studio... I haven't seen Brian post anything about SS4 for a fair while, but I'm sure he said it'd be out early this year.

With your SQ3 problem in Sci Studio, you don't need the SCIV.exe file. You only need the SCIV.exe file so that you PLAY the game. I just checked it to make sure, and I could open the games resources fine, but it wouldn't run.

Do0kie · Mon 12/01/2004 23:19:59

I have tried the printscreen option running the games under WinXP AND under Abandon Loader, however it seems it's not copying the image to the clipboard. I also tried SCI Decoder, but printscreen isn't working either, and I have no idea WHERE or WHETHER it's dumping the files, unlike SCUMM Costume Ripper.
Printscreen only works for me under DOSBox (which doesn't seem to particulary like Sierra games), using SCUMM Costume Ripper (though it's useless since you can dump the images to pcx files), and for windows programs.
Any ideas?
Thanx in advance...