THE RESULTS!
And an incredibly cool awards site by Darth Mandarb at:
http://www.twin-design.com/foregos/
At last, the FOREGOs are finished and the results are counted. 49 lovely people sent me their 447 votes over the 11 categories and here are the final results:
CJ's best deed of 2003 was, by a long margin, Breathing and being Awesome. So CJ, just keep inhaling and exhaling and we'll be happy! (nomination by Yufster, OTG and ._.)
The best moderator is a man who many have confused for a woman, thanks to his avatar. Yes, it's everyone's favourite time traveller: Mr Colossal (lets see if I can spell it right this time)
Next up comes the best "n00b" helper in the Beginners Tech forum. Despite strong competition (ie me :) oh yeah and some other guys), this goes to Scorpiorus.
Now we come to the "best unimplemented suggestion". Now, despite Lens Flare having multiple nominations, another suggestion captured people imaginations and had the largest winning margin (22 votes!) of any category: Character animation preview (nomination by DGMacphee)
The best Tech Forum contribution was a close fought thing: it was tied on 16 votes each to Proskrito and Scorpiorus before last weekend began... but the weekend voting has handed it to Scorpiorus his second award!
Now come the Critics Lounge awards: split into helpful musician and helpful artist.
Despite there being 6 nominees in this category all the helpful artists recieved a healthy bunch of votes, so they should all be congratulated on the work that they do helping people. But one guy stood out with more votes, and I think that most of us owe our walkcycles to his tutorials... yes, Eric does it again as MrColossal takes the helpful artist award.
As for the musicians: again they all do a great job with their help to folks, but in this category one person has obviously spent far too much time doing other people's music and not enough developing Fountain of Youth: yes, it's m0ds!
Now comes the first of the "chat" categories: judged not necessarily on helpfulness but on general contribution to a forum. AGS Talk & Chat is our adventure-related forum and once again I was nominated. It just shows the quality of the other nominees when you realise that I came last with only 5 votes! This category ius another of the close-run ones but in the end, DGMacphee pipped the others to the post.
Now we have awards for the efforts made by people in two of the less-visited forums, which was reflected in the vote counts here. Still, there was a decent haul and everyone nominated here had a good count of votes too:
Best constructive criticism in the Games in Production forum goes to Dave Gilbert, who doesn't post a great deal but it obviosuly counts when he does.
And the most helpful hinter has been chosen to be a real afficionado: AGA
Finally, the second "chat" award, for General Discussion contribution was another close-fought battle. But it seems that one man's efforts to rouse the hispanic vote succeeded and thanks to the support of pretty much anyone who speaks Spanish on the forums, Farlander takes the FOREGO.
It is a great shame not to reward the runners-up, who are greatly deserving too, but I will be contacting the winners so they can sort out their custom forum titles.
Thanks and see you next year (if I can't fob it off on to someone else)
FOREGO NOMINATIONS:
1. CJ's single best deed of the year (CJ gets his own award so we can exclude him from everything else, otherwise he'd win everything)
a) Being Awesome/Breathing
b) AGS2.6/32-bit colour&alpha support
c) Smart speed scaling
2. Best board moderator: OK, CJ can be included in this one too
a) CJ
b) MrCollosal
c) C. Leksutin
d) DGMacphee
e) Gilbot
3. Most helpful person in the Beginners Tech Forum: who keeps patiently telling n00bs how to do things?
a) Scorpiorus
b) Scummbuddy
c) TK
d) SSH
4. Best unimplemented suggestion in Tech forum: what is the thing you most want to be implemented next in AGS?
a) Lens Flare
b) Character/animation preview
c) Icon-based dialogs
5. Most helpful Tech forum person: who has donated the best plugin, script, function or other technical things?
a) Proskrito
b) Scorpiorus
c) Gilbot
6. Most helpful artist: Who has most helpful with art in the Critics lounge, directly or through providing tutorials
a) Darth Mandarb
b) Miez
c) MrCollosal
d) Pessi
e) Scotch
f) Loominous
7. Most helpful musician: Who has given most music help? directly or through providing tutorials
a) m0ds
b) remixor
c) Trapezoid
8. Best AGS Chat contributor: who has put the best stuff in the AGS Talk & Chat?
a) Yufster
b) SSH
c) m0ds
d) GarageGothic
e) DGMacphee
9. Best constructive critciser in Games in Production: who gives the most edifying feedback that help get those games or demos done?
a) Timosity
b) Snake
c) DaveGilbert
d) Scotch
10. Best helpful hinter: Who is most helpful in the Hints & Tips forum?
a) AGA
b) Inkoddi
c) Jane
11. Best contribution to Gen-Gen: who has put the best stuff in the Gen Gen?
a) DGMacphee
b) Yakspit
c) Rodekill
d) MrCollosal
e) Darth Mandarb
f) Farlander
OK, OK, so I put 6 noms in for some categories instead of 5, but that was only because of a deadlock in nominations, so my discretion was used. Also, nominations are listed in no particular order sometimes and sometimes in order of number of noms: but i'm not telling which! ;) So vote by email or PM and I'll announce the results same time in two weeks. If I don't get enough votes I'll pick the winners myself, so I'm favourite to win those categories I got nominated for ;D
DONT DELAY VOTE TODAY!
Also, congrats to the other folks who got nominated but missed out: Dark Stalkey, Terranrich, Jannar, Flippy_D, Petteri, N3tgraph, Archangel, BionicBill, Goldmund, Simple, Helm, RickJ, fjeronimo and a-v-o
Original header:
So, the AGS Awards are for games
The Ergos are for funny stuff
I thought that to encourage helpfulness and "good behaviour" on the forums, we should maybe have a few awards for that kind of thing. And they will be called the "Forego"s (pronouced 4go).
;)
I think this is a good idea.
I'll PM my nominations soon!
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Quote from: SSH on Thu 04/12/2003 15:55:14
Best unimplemented suggestion in Tech forum: what is the thing you most want to be implemented next in AGS?
Lens Flare!!!! :D
Best constructive critciser in Games in Production: This has to be Vel
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Only in the KQ3 VGa "remake" thread :P
This has potential.
Not so keen on the name though, but lost for a better.
Cool idea...but...
I don't like the most helpful to "YOU" part.
For example: I nominate m0ds for "Most helpful musician". He's never done anything for me, but he has made the biggest contribution to the community musically I believe. (as a musician myself, I have little use for other musicians ;))
Perhaps most helpful to "you" or "the AGS community" could be added. I'm sure many people will do this anyway...just thought I would mention it.
later,
-junc
I like this idea... and I believe I concur with junc...
QuoteMost helpful Tech forum person: who has donated the best plugin, script, function or other technical things?
Well... there's only one I see... AJA and the creditz plugin & scripteditor ;D
Come on folks, get those nominations in!
best help for beginners should be Scummbuddy or TK they seem to be the only people who will answer my obvious questions.
good idea by the way.
most helpful on the tech board: Scorpiorus
Thanks to all who have nominated do far, but there's only one or two categories with enough nominations to make it worthwhile. Please get your nominations in by the end of Thursday (well, by 12 GMT Friday actually, as thats when I'll start checking the thread to compile my list). Even if you only want to nominate in one particular category.
please? :'( :'( :'(
Can you not set the date forward? All the other awards don't take place until January so surely it'd be best to do them around the same time.
Okey dokey, deadline for noms is now 2nd of January. However, I'll be offline over Christmas (after the 22nd), so don't expect me to reply to any questions on this until January.
m0ds, could you stickyfy this thread, pretty please?
Thanks, m0ds, for making this sticky.
Don't forget to nominate people: I still haven't got that many nominations in, and if there aren't enough then I may not be able to run some of the categories. People who are already nominated, but haven't nominated (if you understand that...) include:
AJA, AGA, Barcik, C. Leks, DGMacphee, Evil, GarageGothic, Inkoddi, Miez, m0ds, MrColossal, Proskrito, Scotch, Scorpiorus, Snake, TerranRich, Timosity, Trapezoid and Yakspit
These people now all have a vested interest in nominating more people, or else they may not get their own chance at an award (or two)!
You don't have to do all the categories if you're stuck for ideas, and the deadline will be "before I happen to log in on the 5th of January". So get them in by the end of Sunday 4th to be sure and make sure people are recognised for their contribution to these forums.
I'm offline for a while, so have a Merry Christmas everyone!
Don't worry, I'll be sure to get my votes in ASAP! I've been damn busy lately, I don't even have time to finish my senta
MrColossal for artwork c&c. Always there.
OK, so after my last announcement I have one more nom in htis thread and two PMs. *sigh*
Look, folks, the ERGOs are already in danger and the FOREGOs are trying to encourage people to be helpful. So far there's only one category in which there are two people have more than one nomination. So, here's the final chnage to the rules:
1. All nominations must be in by the time I get online next Monday morning (12th) This will be around noon GMT
2. Those who have nominated already may choose others in categories up to a total of 10 per categopry (just liek the AGS Awards)
3. Each category must have at least 2 people with 2 nominations form different people or one person with 4 nominations to be open for final voting. The top 5 qualifying nominees will be available for voting, unless there is only one qualifying nominee with >4 nominations in which case they win without a further vote.
4. Unimplemented suggestion and CJ special award will have the 3 nominations chosen by me
To encourage you to make sure that people don't miss the boat, the follwoing people need seconders in the follwoing categories:
Best Moderator:
C. Leks, CJ, DGMacphee, MrColossal, Snake
Beginners Tech helpful:
Scorpiorus, SSH
Tech forums contribution:
Proskrito, fjeronimo, AJA
Helpful Artist:
Miez, scotch
Musician:
Barcik, remixor, Trapezoid
Chat contribution:
Yufster, SSH, m0ds
Constructive Crit in Games in Production:
Timosity, evil, Dave Gilbert, scotch
Helpful hinter:
AGA, Inkoddi
Best Gen-Gen contribution:
Yufster, DGMacphee, TerranRich
NB There are other folks nominated for these categories, but they are already qualified. However, if I get a flood of nominations this week (yeah, right) best to nominate youre favorites anyway as they may have to fight to be in the top 5.
Don't delay, nominate today!
EDIT: Ooops, forgot Vel's noms which were on the other computer... fixed
I think these awards are a good idea. I hope you get enough nominations in (sent mine earlier).
Quote from: SSH on Mon 05/01/2004 13:30:24
Musician:
Barcik, remixor, Trapezoid
This is very interesting, as I have never in my life composed a piece of music.
Anyway.... I'll give you some nominations today.
Quote from: Barcik on Mon 05/01/2004 14:23:07
Quote from: SSH on Mon 05/01/2004 13:30:24
Musician:
Barcik, remixor, Trapezoid
This is very interesting, as I have never in my life composed a piece of music.
You see how important it is that people nominate: otherwise imposters like Barcik will win categories that they don't deserve ;)
Don't worry, Darth, I won't tell anyone that it was you that nominated Barcik as a musician.
/me mails a 100$ to Florida, USA.
Hmmm...
Barcik, some other guy nominated you for best in every category, but all I know is this address:
PO Box 1337
Edinburgh
EH13 3TE
UK
Maybe you should send them some cash, too
For fuck's sake!
I just wasted half an hour just for it to tell me that "SSH is either unavailable or has you on his ignore list"!
Sorry! That's because my username is SuperScottishHero. Try this link:
http://www.agsforums.com/yabb/index.php?board=3;action=imsend;to=SuperScottishHero
Thanks for making the effort, Barcik!
As usual, I won't be here at the weekend to pester you... so GET THOSE NOMINATIONS IN!
At the moment there's a tie-break for the top-5 places in Gen-Gen, Helpful Artist, Beginner Help and there's still only 3 qualifying nominees in Helpful Musician, Helpful hinter and Tech forum contribution, so any nominations you make could make the difference between someone being in the vote or not!
m0ds.... get your nominations in as you promised three times already!!!!
Thanks to all who have put their nominations in already: I've asked CJ if we can use the fourm-based voting system, so hopefully I can announce nominees on Monday and then at some point the voting can start... (otherwise votes by PM/email)
Don't leave the nominations up to someone else: in most categories just one more nomination can make the difference between being in or out!
See top of thread for more details!
FOREGO NOMINATIONS:
Please vote for which of the nominations you would like to win. PM me at http://www.agsforums.com/yabb/index.php?board=3;action=imsend;to=SuperScottishHero
or email andrewm@cadence.com
1. CJ's single best deed of the year (CJ gets his own award so we can exclude him from everything else, otherwise he'd win everything)
a) Being Awesome/Breathing
b) AGS2.6/32-bit colour&alpha support
c) Smart speed scaling
2. Best board moderator: OK, CJ can be included in this one too
a) CJ
b) MrCollosal
c) C. Leksutin
d) DGMacphee
e) Gilbot
3. Most helpful person in the Beginners Tech Forum: who keeps patiently telling n00bs how to do things?
a) Scorpiorus
b) Scummbuddy
c) TK
d) SSH
4. Best unimplemented suggestion in Tech forum: what is the thing you most want to be implemented next in AGS?
a) Lens Flare
b) Character/animation preview
c) Icon-based dialogs
5. Most helpful Tech forum person: who has donated the best plugin, script, function or other technical things?
a) Proskrito
b) Scorpiorus
c) Gilbot
6. Most helpful artist: Who has most helpful with art in the Critics lounge, directly or through providing tutorials
a) Darth Mandarb
b) Miez
c) MrCollosal
d) Pessi
e) Scotch
f) Loominous
7. Most helpful musician: Who has given most music help? directly or through providing tutorials
a) m0ds
b) remixor
c) Trapezoid
8. Best AGS Chat contributor: who has put the best stuff in the AGS Talk & Chat?
a) Yufster
b) SSH
c) m0ds
d) GarageGothic
e) DGMacphee
9. Best constructive critciser in Games in Production: who gives the most edifying feedback that help get those games or demos done?
a) Timosity
b) Snake
c) DaveGilbert
d) Scotch
10. Best helpful hinter: Who is most helpful in the Hints & Tips forum?
a) AGA
b) Inkoddi
c) Jane
11. Best contribution to Gen-Gen: who has put the best stuff in the Gen Gen?
a) DGMacphee
b) Yakspit
c) Rodekill
d) MrCollosal
e) Darth Mandarb
f) Farlander
/me adds his FOREGO nomination card to the other souveniers of awards he has received.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Douglas_Forman_Fletcher_Farlander_Saentz.gif)
Quote from: SSH on Thu 04/12/2003 15:55:14
9. Best constructive critciser in Games in Production: who gives the most edifying feedback that help get those games or demos done?
b) Snake
Also, congrats to the other folks who got nominated but missed out: Snake
Those snakes just like hiding in long grass don't they
Quote from: Timosity on Mon 12/01/2004 13:09:00
Quote from: SSH on Thu 04/12/2003 15:55:14
9. Best constructive critciser in Games in Production: who gives the most edifying feedback that help get those games or demos done?
b) Snake
Also, congrats to the other folks who got nominated but missed out: Snake
Those snakes just like hiding in long grass don't they
a) You have time to spot things like that, but don't have time to send me your votes yet, eh?
b) Well done: that was a deliberate mistake to draw attention to the voting, honest :-\
I think there's been a mistake. I don't see Tim Schafer on that list.
I demand you put Tim Schafer on that list. Wasn't there supposed to be a "Best Tim Schafer in the field of Tim Schafers"? I'm sure there was. You should make a category for Tim Schafer.
Ooh, someone voted for me :P
And I sent in my votes.
Where's the All of the Above option?
Anyway, I'm sending mine in now. Guess I was just in time to know that there was something called FOREGOs going the hell on...
Damned late internet bill.
--EDIT--
Oh, and don't vote for me. I don't want to ruin my life-long losing streak now.
--Snake
Vote for me! Why? Because I just found out I got a nomination and if I, the underdog, win, it will be TEH FEEL GOOD EXPERIENCE OF TEH YEAR!!11
I voted already!
You know I did!
Puh, hero.
I voted!
About icon based dialogue didn't somebody already do that, i think it was scavenger!
Yes, you're right that Scavenger put a lot of hard work into creating a script to help with icon-based dialogs. I have recentlky been implementing my own system and I've done some things slightly differently (using inventory items for the topics makes life a bit easier) but I realise that the way he did lots of things is about the ONLY way to do them and it's a lot of work. Native support would be great!
If we can just get Chris to promise to implement the winner of that category...
for those of you who are interested latest voting update:
42 people have voted. I didn't even have to spam remind all of them! 4 categories have a pretty clear leader, but most of the others could be turned around quite easily.
Just one week left to vote, and still InCreator, TK, Isegrim, juncmodule, DGMacphee, Proskrito and Iqu have yet to vote, despite them placing nominations.
On the other hand such illustrious forum members as m0ds :o , Pumaman :o :o and Vel ;) have already voted and the great Puma has agreed to let the stakes be raised:
PRIZES:
Each FOREGO winner will get a CUSTOM FORUM TITLE!
These 15-character additions to your profile are mush sought after on AGS Forums becuase they don't just come from a post count like they do on most other forums. Previously, only mittens attendees have had the luxury of custom titles!
Now, some may prefer to keep mittens titles if they win, but we'll probably negociate around the titles anyway. Here's my suggestions:
1. CJ can do what he likes with his title anyway...
2. Top moderator
3. Mentor of n00bs
4. n/a
5. Expert scripter
6. Art guru
7. Music muse
8. Best debater
9. Encourager
10. Helpful Hinter
11. Generally Great
Comments/suggestions welcome
Alright! This is a great idea! Maybe some of the other competitions should have such prizes as well.
personally I don't really like custom titles (although CJ's & mitteneers are fine) but it also doesn't bother me if someone has a title.
I'm just not really one for labels
but if you like
2. Cop
3. RTFM
5. Nerd
6. Art Cricket
7. DJ
8. Mass debater
9. Liar
10. Game Spoiler
11. Wanker
Hey... so like if I win, I'd get a custom title of 'Psychonaut'.
Heyyyy! Awesome! Cool!
Next year I'm going to be reallllly helpful.
Don't forget to vote: If your vote is not in by the time I close voting (which will actually be about midday GMT on Monday) then it won't count, so get those votes in and join the 50 or so others who have voted!
Still some categories are neck-and-neck, so every vote counts!
i send my votes ;)
THE RESULTS!
At last, the FOREGOs are finished and the results are counted. 49 lovely people sent me their 447 votes over the 11 categories and here are the final results:
CJ's best deed of 2003 was, by a long margin, Breathing and being Awesome. So CJ, just keep inhaling and exhaling and we'll be happy! (nomination by Yufster, OTG and ._.)
The best moderator is a man who many have confused for a woman, thanks to his avatar. Yes, it's everyone's favourite time traveller: Mr Colossal (lets see if I can spell it right this time)
Next up comes the best "n00b" helper in the Beginners Tech forum. Despite strong competition (ie me :) oh yeah and some other guys), this goes to Scorpiorus.
Now we come to the "best unimplemented suggestion". Now, despite Lens Flare having multiple nominations, another suggestion captured people imaginations and had the largest winning margin (22 votes!) of any category: Character animation preview (nomination by DGMacphee)
The best Tech Forum contribution was a close fought thing: it was tied on 16 votes each to Proskrito and Scorpiorus before last weekend began... but the weekend voting has handed it to Scorpiorus his second award!
Now come the Critics Lounge awards: split into helpful musician and helpful artist.
Despite there being 6 nominees in this category all the helpful artists recieved a healthy bunch of votes, so they should all be congratulated on the work that they do helping people. But one guy stood out with more votes, and I think that most of us owe our walkcycles to his tutorials... yes, Eric does it again as MrColossal takes the helpful artist award.
As for the musicians: again they all do a great job with their help to folks, but in this category one person has obviously spent far too much time doing other people's music and not enough developing Fountain of Youth: yes, it's m0ds!
Now comes the first of the "chat" categories: judged not necessarily on helpfulness but on general contribution to a forum. AGS Talk & Chat is our adventure-related forum and once again I was nominated. It just shows the quality of the other nominees when you realise that I came last with only 5 votes! This category ius another of the close-run ones but in the end, DGMacphee pipped the others to the post.
Now we have awards for the efforts made by people in two of the less-visited forums, which was reflected in the vote counts here. Still, there was a decent haul and everyone nominated here had a good count of votes too:
Best constructive criticism in the Games in Production forum goes to Dave Gilbert, who doesn't post a great deal but it obviosuly counts when he does.
And the most helpful hinter has been chosen to be a real afficionado: AGA
Finally, the second "chat" award, for General Discussion contribution was another close-fought battle. But it seems that one man's efforts to rouse the hispanic vote succeeded and thanks to the support of pretty much anyone who speaks Spanish on the forums, Farlander takes the FOREGO.
It is a great shame not to reward the runners-up, who are greatly deserving too, but I will be contacting the winners so they can sort out their custom forum titles.
Thanks and see you next year (if I can't fob it off on to someone else)
I don't deserve to win, give it to Inkoddi :P
Oh, I'll take it.
Who'da thought all those years of telling morons to get fucked would finally pay off? ;D
Thanks for organising this, SSH.
I maintain that I am really the most general person around.
I will strive harder for next year.
Can't believe I got two of them!
Thanks people, I very appreciate it! :D
Quote from: SSH on Mon 26/01/2004 13:03:47It is a great shame not to reward the runners-up, who are greatly deserving too, but I will be contacting the winners so they can sort out their custom forum titles.
I too think there are many people who should be rawarded!
May I share the Tech award with Proskrito?
And yeah, excellent job carrying out FOREGOs, SSH!
~Cheers
QuoteI maintain that I am really the most general person around.
I will strive harder for next year.
I voted for you, Rodey!
Many happy returns of the awards! Or something.
Sweeeet yey. Thanks whoever made me win. You teh best.
Do we get a little icon or picture of some kind of cup to put on our website? ^-^
Congrats all!
Quote from: m0ds on Mon 26/01/2004 14:30:39
Do we get a little icon or picture of some kind of cup to put on our website? ^-^
Yes, when Darth Mandarb tells me the link to that gold bluecup he did for me again as I have managed to lose it...
:'(
Quote from: AGA on Mon 26/01/2004 13:06:06
I don't deserve to win, give it to Inkoddi :P
Yay! Thaks AGA!!!
/me buys a cake and gives it to AGA
O_O
I won!
And I haven't posted in the GiP forum in nearly six months...
I'm just as confused as you are.
But thanks for voting for me! :-D I feel so loved.
I voted for Dave Gilbert, and I remember that Andrew (SSH) asked why, as Dave admitted not posting a lot in the GiP forum... I just could say that there was a post by Dave who impressed me, I can´t recall which was, but that was why I voted him... Maybe there has been more people who has made the same that me...