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Title: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Tue 26/09/2006 16:11:33
In August, I presented "The Shivah" at an IGDA meeting here in New York.  A reporter from Gamasutra was there and did a write-up about it, in addition to interviewing me.  It took a month, but it's on there now.  You can read about the event, read the interview, and learn about some of the other games that were presented.

http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20060926/hawkins_01.shtml

The event was also videotaped, and was recently placed on Youtube.  You can view the videos here:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P18jOFoiyR4
(Where a trailer for the game is played, and some features are demonstrated)

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJ6BN4wokI
(Where I open up AGS and recreate a small scene from the game)

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsy-n17i4ig
(Where I answer questions from the audience)
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Tue 26/09/2006 16:29:04
Graphics made with Photoshop!? ;o

BLASPHEMY!


Nice interview, though!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Tue 26/09/2006 16:31:22
Finally! :P

Good feature and interview, hope it brings the game to more peoples attention
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra
Post by: Nikolas on Tue 26/09/2006 16:34:16
Congrats?

I think that it is a proper thing to say. All the best Dave ! :)
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra
Post by: MrColossal on Tue 26/09/2006 17:45:13
Congratu-fucking-lations dave!

I know the language is harsh but that's totally awesome. I've been going to IGDA meetings in upstate NY and they're pretty cool but I would have loved to be in the audience when you demoed The Shiva, woop-de-woop!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Tue 26/09/2006 17:46:21
Quote from: MrColossal on Tue 26/09/2006 17:45:13
Congratu-fucking-lations dave!

I know the language is harsh but that's totally awesome. I've been going to IGDA meetings in upstate NY and they're pretty cool but I would have loved to be in the audience when you demoed The Shiva, woop-de-woop!

Thanks, Eric.  The video of the presentation is supposed to go up on Youtube soon.  So you can pretend you were there.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra
Post by: Nikolas on Tue 26/09/2006 18:04:26
linky to the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P18jOFoiyR4)
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra
Post by: DoorKnobHandle on Tue 26/09/2006 18:34:22
That's great to hear (read). Your game is excellent and well-deserves every bit of public interest it can get. Hats off! :)
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra
Post by: Buckethead on Tue 26/09/2006 18:39:22
I might even gonna play your game now
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Tue 26/09/2006 18:42:52
Quote from: Nikolas on Tue 26/09/2006 18:04:26
linky to the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P18jOFoiyR4)

Wow!  I didn't even know these were up yet.  Parts 2 and 3 are hard to find, so I updated the original post.  Thanks, Nick.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Anarcho on Tue 26/09/2006 18:44:19
I just watched part 1, excellent presentation dave!  I'll buy my copy of The Shivah tonight.

Good luck!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: edmundito on Wed 27/09/2006 00:42:09
Today it's an important day:

It's the first time that AGS is 1) shown on Youtube, 2) Shown at a presentation for a general audience who are not AGSers.

Dave Gilbert is my hero!  :=
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Domino on Wed 27/09/2006 01:38:03
Great video Dave!! Congratulations. Those were really nice to watch.

Good thing your porn pics didn't pop up when hooking up your computer.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: thewalrus on Wed 27/09/2006 02:43:02
     Congratulations Dave!!!! Can I ask you where in New York did this conference take place? I'm from Long Island. How many people where at this place???

Thewalrus

Goo, goo, ga, joob!!!!!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Wed 27/09/2006 03:44:47

Quote from: thewalrus on Wed 27/09/2006 02:43:02
     Congratulations Dave!!!! Can I ask you where in New York did this conference take place? I'm from Long Island. How many people where at this place???

Thewalrus

Walrus:
The Gameasutra article gives the details, but in a nutshell it was hosted by the New York chapter of the IGDA (independent gaming development association), and it took place in the NYU Woolworth building.  There were about 130 people there.  One of whom was our very own "Big Brother," who managed to squeak onto the waiting list and got in at the last minute.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Gord10 on Wed 27/09/2006 04:01:12
Wow congrats! :)
I love IGDA meetings; I usually join the ones made in my own city, too.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Vince Twelve on Wed 27/09/2006 04:01:52
I just finished reading the article and watching the videos.  How cool was that?  Congratulations Dave!  I'm green with envy.  I don't want to get all "over-used Dr. Seuss graduation gift" on you, but with the determination, skill, and resourcefulness that you're demonstrating in this little endeavor of yours, "Oh the places you'll go!"  Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: DeviantGent on Wed 27/09/2006 13:55:12
Huzzah, Master Gilbert!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: voh on Wed 27/09/2006 14:40:03
Good news for all AGS users and AGS-made game fans :)
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Helm on Wed 27/09/2006 15:09:31
That is very awesome! Congrats, Dave.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Ishmael on Wed 27/09/2006 18:58:59
Nice presentin', Mr. Super-coder :)
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: big brother on Fri 29/09/2006 03:32:53
The video doesn't do the free beer justice.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Haddas on Fri 29/09/2006 17:19:03
I met Dave back when he was only a DEMI-God!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: MrColossal on Fri 29/09/2006 17:25:59
I met Dave back when we were on EzBoard!

And we got some VERY expensive sandwiches!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Andail on Fri 29/09/2006 17:48:25
I spent a couple of days at his appartment-o-love in New York City. We went to karaokee, had pizza and tried on hats at street markets.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Peder 🚀 on Fri 29/09/2006 17:58:16
Nice movies.

Good presentation you made! :).
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: on Fri 29/09/2006 18:45:45
Very cool! Informative and interesting look at your game, plus interaction with real Jews! Well done Dave! :D
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Thu 05/10/2006 22:03:31
Quote from: m0ds on Fri 29/09/2006 18:45:45
interaction with real Jews! :D

Real jews!  With genuine kvetching action!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Chicky on Thu 05/10/2006 23:22:22
Awesome Dave :)

I never realised your game got quite this big, i thought the Shivah was a mags entry? I guess i'm just slow on the uptake. Awesome presentation anyway! Yay Dews!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: on Thu 12/10/2006 14:24:31
American Pie 3: The Wedding made me laugh the other night because of a line about Shivah's, reminded me of your game, Dave!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Thu 12/10/2006 21:41:20
Hm.  Since you all know what a shivah is now, you'll probably get one of my favorite jewish jokes:

A jewish man brings his native american fiance home to meet his mother.
"Pleased to meet you," the fiance says. "My name is Su-ka-tawa, but you can call me Running Water."
"Well," the mother retorts.  "My name is Rosa Epstein, but you can call me sitting shivah!"

It's funny.  Really.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Evil on Thu 12/10/2006 22:32:50
Wow, that was a fantastic presentation. I don't think that AGS has every, or could ever, be presented better. The very hands on approach was very good and I think they took away a lot more then just the "Hey, look at this cool game I made." And for the little amount of time you had, you gave them the whole scoop. Even when you were demoing AGS I thought "Wow, that looks really easy. I should try that!"
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: LimpingFish on Thu 26/10/2006 21:13:01
I didn't want to start a new thread, so I figured I'd post this here...

From PC Gamer, in the UK.

(http://homepage.eircom.net/~limpingfish/scan001.jpg)

Actual readable version here! (http://homepage.eircom.net/~limpingfish/scan001.jpg)

Detail (for those of you squinting)...

(http://homepage.eircom.net/~limpingfish/scan002.jpg)

DaveGilbert, international gaming LEGEND.

EDIT: Crapbunnies! I just realised they misspelled '"SHIVAH". Oh well... >:(
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: edmundito on Fri 27/10/2006 05:17:53
I'm really glad they once again misspelled the ShivaHHHHHHHHHHHH.  :=
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Fri 27/10/2006 09:08:20
How funny.  I was just at an IGDA meeting and saw Greg Costikyan of Manifesto speak on a panel.  Thanks for the image, LimpingFish.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Kweepa on Sat 28/10/2006 05:46:56
I was in Barnes and Noble tonight and flicking through the latest "Retro Gamer" magazine (with the Oric retrospective) I found a review of the freeware version of The Shivah. They gave it 86%, and said it was excellent but got a little unfocused towards the end. At least they spelt Shivah correctly.

I didn't fancy laying down $12 (it's published in the UK and imported here) so I can't scan it. Sorry.

The wadjet continues its inexorable advance!
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: marlamoe on Sat 28/10/2006 06:35:29
Dave, I watched your utube video, and I gotta say, you are my new crush. The way you carried yourself is something I very much envy.  If I found a cure for an incurable disease tomorrow, I would have trouble standing in front of people to tell them what I did.  I played your game and thought it was terrific.  Don't worry about the crush thing.  I am 37, married, and have a grandbaby on the way.  There will be no stalking involved.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Nikolas on Sat 28/10/2006 08:50:24
I was probably the 47th person to buy the game, but now, hopefully, the sales will have gone up by 1000000000000000%... (anyways, above 500? 1000?).

No need to tell us Dave of course, just wishful thinking (and based to what we see all around us, it seems that it could be possible).

Either way the soundtrack was sooo nice, and your collaborators are also brilliant so... I will pre-order my copy of the blackwell legacy ;) :D
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Sat 28/10/2006 11:06:50
Hehehe.  I WISH, Niklaus. :)  The game's gotten a ton of publicity but it usually amounts to a small flurry of sales followed by the standard 1-2 a day.  The fact that the game was originally freeware contributed big to this, since over 10,000 people played the game for free.  Had even 5% of that number purchased the game, I'd be much better off. ;)

The fact that people are actually pre-ordering BL has given me some renewed confidence, and the small press BL has generated has brought more people to the site, who are then presented with Shivah, etc.  It's my hope that each subsequent release will help market the previous releases, but only time will tell.

Marlamoe:  Thanks!  I can't stand looking at that video now, as every stupid twitch and stammer stabs at my gut like a neurotic dagger.  I watch it and think, "You could have gotten a haircut, you slob.  Stop smacking your lips!  Do you have to say 'um' or 'ah' every other word? Bleh, you're a disgrace."

-Dave
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Scummbuddy on Mon 30/10/2006 14:44:20
Retro Gamer # 29 has a small little blurb about your game. I took a camera phone picture of it, but I'm working on getting it up.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Helm on Mon 30/10/2006 15:19:58
Hey Dave, I wanna buy the Shivah, but I don't want to sign-up for that thing at the website. Paypal an option for you? I can also pay you in protection services if you need it.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Mon 30/10/2006 15:51:21
Hi Helm,

Sure.  You can paypal the money to me at davelgil@yahoo.com. Just make sure you write what it's for. :)

EDIT: Turns out that there's no point in doing this.  You still have to register on the store to get the game.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Helm on Mon 30/10/2006 17:18:37
sent.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: big brother on Tue 31/10/2006 16:45:48
Quote from: Dave Gilbert on Sat 28/10/2006 11:06:50
Marlamoe:Ã,  Thanks!Ã,  I can't stand looking at that video now, as every stupid twitch and stammer stabs at my gut like a neurotic dagger.Ã,  I watch it and think, "You could have gotten a haircut, you slob.Ã,  Stop smacking your lips!Ã,  Do you have to say 'um' or 'ah' every other word? Bleh, you're a disgrace."

To be honest, I really didn't notice (and I don't think anyone there did either). Maybe the free beer played a role in that. Compared to the other presentations, you definitely stole the show.

Or did the free beer steal the show? Hindsight is fuzzy.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Kweepa on Tue 31/10/2006 18:59:49
Don't worry, it's a sign of being an eccentric genius.
Take a look at early John Carmack talks, before he got the speech therapy.
Title: Re: The Shivah (and me) on Gamasutra and Youtube
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Thu 02/11/2006 14:41:37
I edited my post above, but just in case y'all missed it:

You still have to register on the store to get the game.  Sorry.  You can paypal me the money if you want to, but you still have to be registered on the store to get the download link.