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Title: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: on Thu 25/05/2006 23:50:58
What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games? I have Tex Murphy and Gabriel Knight, I am looking for the lesser known games. Thanks.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Babar on Thu 25/05/2006 23:55:29
Horror slash mystery? Can those two be combined like that?

No matter. What about "Laura Bow" (both)? Hugo's house of horrors?
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: ManicMatt on Fri 26/05/2006 00:04:33
I'm guessing you haven't played commercial game Still Life? That's about a killer on the loose and a detective, to put it simply.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: on Fri 26/05/2006 00:16:12
My bad, I meant to say what are the best horror and mystery adventure games? Also, I have played Laura Bow: The Colonel's Bequest, and it has to be one of my favorite adventure games  :) . I have yet to play the sequel.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Renal Shutdown on Fri 26/05/2006 01:13:53
So is this Horror and/or Mystery?

Cruise for a Corpse was a mystery, and it was pretty horrific.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Redwall on Fri 26/05/2006 03:35:36
He said "best", ManicMatt. No need to mention Still Life. ;)
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Steel Drummer on Fri 26/05/2006 04:54:59
You could check out the game I made  ;D lol, it sucks though, and it's not really a mystery or horror.. I can't think of any at the moment (besides GK and Cruise for a Corpse). If you want to find some for download, try abandonia.com, holyfile.com, or the-underdogs.com
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: ManicMatt on Fri 26/05/2006 11:04:29
Quote from: Redwall on Fri 26/05/2006 03:35:36
He said "best", ManicMatt. No need to mention Still Life. ;)

Hahaha. He also said "lesser known", otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it!

Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Radiant on Fri 26/05/2006 12:57:33
Cruise for a Corpse is good.
You might want to try Shadow of the Comet.
Laura Bow is simply awful.

Covert Action (mystery) and Elvira (horror-ish) come to mind although they aren't strictly adventure.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: jetxl on Fri 26/05/2006 13:20:08
Horror/Mystery is popular in adventure games.

good ones.
+7th guest. 11th hour.
+Phantasmagoria 1&2. Sierra made a bunch of those real-actor slasher games.
+ObsCure.
+Braindead 13. (non adventure)
+Orion Conspiracy.
+5 Days: A Stranger.
+Alone in the Dark.

bad ones.
-Evil Dead: Hail to the King.
-Afred Hithcock: The Final Cut.
-Black Mirror.
-Shadow of the Comet.

There are many more, but these spung in mind.
You could check out the survival-horror games as well.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: on Sat 27/05/2006 02:10:35
Thanks  :D
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Exorph on Sat 27/05/2006 02:18:22
I'm currently playing an interactive fiction game called Anchorhead.
It's really well written, has great pacing and just happens to be both horror and mystery.
I really recommend it if you (think you can) enjoy text-based games.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: on Sat 27/05/2006 05:40:13
It's like a book, but better!
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Post by: sergiocornaga on Sat 27/05/2006 09:36:58
Quote from: jet on Fri 26/05/2006 13:20:08
bad ones.
-Evil Dead: Hail to the King.
-Afred Hithcock: The Final Cut.
-Black Mirror.
-Shadow of the Comet.

Did you finish this game? I actually quite liked it. Well, I wouldn't call it bad. I'll admit it had a horribly slow begining and some dodgy puzzles though...
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: ManicMatt on Sat 27/05/2006 10:25:55
+ObsCure.
survival horror game in the vein of resident evil. Very average, but should be cheap. Not what I'd class as adventure!

+Alone in the Dark.

Isn't this a survival horror game too? Where resident evil got it's "inspiration" from?

-Evil Dead: Hail to the King.

Not adventure. But it is shit.

"You could check out the survival-horror games as well."
*cough*Ã,  :P 8)
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Helm on Sat 27/05/2006 10:30:06
Alone in the Dark AND Resident Evil are adventure games. AitD happens to be good, Resident Evil happens to be stupid. Killing a few enemies along the way does make the game more action-based, but does this make the games any less of the inventory-puzzle-fests they are?
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: ManicMatt on Sat 27/05/2006 10:42:43
If I was to base resident evil solely on it's puzzles, then I'd say it was one of the worse puzzle games ever.

Nope, I won't budge on the genre labelling of resident evil. Also, try typing in "resident evil survival" and "resident evil adventure" into google and notice the results.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Helm on Sat 27/05/2006 10:46:06
ask eric to take you back to 1995 and google 'doom clone' versus 'first person shooter'.

'survival horror' is just a marketing term for games that copy Resident Evil. Made to appeal to the demographic that needs clones of Resident Evil. Because Resident Evil was a successful franchise (for what reason is beyond me). Inside they're still action-heavy BAD adventure games.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: ManicMatt on Sat 27/05/2006 11:14:11
Sigh..

'first person shooter' is just a marketing term for games that copy Doom. Made to appeal to the demographic that needs clones of Doom. Because Doom was a successful franchise.

Oh wait, most of these genre labels are made up by marketing spods in the last ten years! I'd better just stick to using only the old terms and confuse people into thinking resident evil is going to be a game like beneath a steel sky by calling it an adventure game..  :P
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Helm on Sat 27/05/2006 11:29:53
QuoteOh wait, most of these genre labels are made up by marketing spods in the last ten years! I'd better just stick to using only the old terms

I'm ok with new genre names that make a valuable distinction based on the inherent traits of the new gameplay. First Person Shooter is pretty descriptive. It's a game played from the first person, where you shoot stuff. 'Survival Horror' is just a silly term, where for example even Doom could be held within if you found Cyberdeamons sufficiently horrible. We arrive at a stage where if you have a fps game where there's some undead and you have way the hell too few medicits/ammo to make it through all-guns blazing, it's suddenly a 'fps with survival horror undertones'. I mean, ugh!

But I'll give you 'adventure game' really doesn't neatly describe what the games are about at all.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: ManicMatt on Sat 27/05/2006 12:35:27
"But I'll give you 'adventure game' really doesn't neatly describe what the games are about at all."

Ah, then we have reached some kind of agreement! I just didn't want anyone buying resident evil or obscure thinking it would be a point and click game. Actually, I don't want anyone buying Obscure fullstop, unless it's as cheap as peanuts.

"a fps game where there's some undead and you have way the hell too few medicits/ammo to make it through all-guns blazing,  it's suddenly a 'fps with survival horror undertones'. I mean, ugh!"

In that case I'd call it just a horror FPS.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: jetxl on Sat 27/05/2006 12:51:56
Quote from: SergioCornaga on Sat 27/05/2006 09:36:58
Did you finish this game? I actually quite liked it. Well, I wouldn't call it bad. I'll admit it had a horribly slow begining and some dodgy puzzles though...
Black Mirror was the most linear adventure game I've ever played. I think there was a moment that I had a key, used it on a trunk, but I couldn't open it untill I talked to a guy who told me the key belonged on the trunk. The end puzzle and ending were bad. And the voice acting made my ears bleed. Black Mirror is a ok game, but that's because adventure games are of low quality these days.

I see survival horror games as adventure games. Mist clones are seen as adventure games, but there have no items to pick up or people to talk to. Indiana Jones adventure games are seen as adventure games, but from time to time you have to fight. You even have an health bar.
Besides, most survival horror games are japanese. They are bound to be different than conventional Euro-American adventure games.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Polecat on Tue 30/05/2006 04:31:38
Quote from: jet on Fri 26/05/2006 13:20:08
bad ones.
-Shadow of the Comet.

I've actually heard some good things about this one, why list it under bad?
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Mehrdad on Tue 30/05/2006 08:08:12
DARKSEED1&2 is horror adventure game
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: jetxl on Tue 30/05/2006 09:47:48
Quote from: Polecat on Tue 30/05/2006 04:31:38
Quote from: jet on Fri 26/05/2006 13:20:08
bad ones.
-Shadow of the Comet.

I've actually heard some good things about this one, why list it under bad?

Shadow of the Comet has the so called "French touch," which means that the graphics are AMAZING! ...But the gameplay sucks.
I played and finished it, and it has inspired me to make a similar game, but I never want to replay it.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: LimpingFish on Tue 30/05/2006 20:58:31
Midnight Nowhere.
http://www.buka.com/cgi-bin/show.pl?id=13

Its pretty bad, but It does qualify as horror/mystery.

As does Post Mortem, the precursor to Still Life...
http://www.adventurecompanygames.com/tac/postmortem/en/index.php3

...although, again, it's not very good.  :-\
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: lo_res_man on Tue 30/05/2006 21:08:44
Does Grim Fendango count? I NEVER want to see a flower again! ;D Myst,in my view counts as an adventure game because there ARE things you can poick up, it is about exploration, there are puzzles, . So its extremly un-liniur? I liked that (except that frikin 'rocket ship puzzle >:( DEATH TO CYAN!) about it. And it was a story. And that is what makes an adventure game an adventure game IMO, they were once called interactive fiction you know.
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Post by: BerserkerTails on Tue 30/05/2006 23:11:28
I loved Shadow of the Comet. Also, a few others that are amazing are the Clock Tower series (Especially the first one for SNES) and Haunting Ground (Which is very similar to that series, for PS2).
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: LimpingFish on Wed 31/05/2006 21:29:44
The Silent Hill games!!!

How did I forget?! ::)

2,3, and 4 are available for the PC.

Also Shadow Of Memories, a PS2 game ported to to PC, is good. More mystery than horror, tho.

If we're talking non-PC games, then:

Project Zero (Fatal Frame in the US). (PS2+Xbox)
Project Zero 2 (Fatal Frame 2) (PS2+Xbox)
Forbidden Siren (PS2)
Clock Tower 3 (PS2)
Glass Rose (PS2) (An honest to goodness point and click adventure :o)
Eternal Darkness (Gamecube)
Haunting Ground (PS2)

Many more... :P


Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Exorph on Wed 31/05/2006 22:19:45
But Shadow of Memories/Destiny is probably the easiest game I've ever played.. I do miss it though. Exchanged it for some other game once I got all the endings.

The Silent Hill games really deserves being mentioned though. The first three games have REALLY good puzzles IMO.. Granted they don't mage sense from a logical standpoint, with people locking things with tarot cards or whatever, but figuring out how to solve  them through creepy poetry is really fun.

Only downside is that I always end up turning on the light so I can keep note of the clues.. >_<
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: ManicMatt on Wed 31/05/2006 23:44:39
Quote from: LimpingFish on Wed 31/05/2006 21:29:44
Also Shadow Of Memories, a PS2 game ported to to PC, is good. More mystery than horror, tho.
Glass Rose (PS2) (An honest to goodness point and click adventure :o)

Ah yes, I loved Shadow of memories. Restrictive game, but really got the mind befuddled.

I heard Glass Rose was rubbish? That you had to highlight the right bit of text in what people have said until they respond, and there is instant unfair deaths. That's what I heard, anyway.

Anyone played Call of cthlulu, if we're going into plain ol' horror games. I hear that's atmospheric. (And due to, I can only imagine, poor sales it's quite cheap now)
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Ghormak on Thu 01/06/2006 01:33:12
If you mean the new (well, new-ish) Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth, then yes, it is quite nice. I found it a little tedious towards the end, but if you can find it for cheap it's well worth playing.

It's pretty creepy and scary, and it manages to be so without resorting to screaming things jumping out at you.
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Post by: LimpingFish on Thu 01/06/2006 01:44:10
Yes, I agree. CoC: DCOTE is good, the first half especially. Becomes more of an FPS towards the end, tho.  :(
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: BerserkerTails on Thu 01/06/2006 08:53:42
I've been on the fence about Call of Cthulu, but I think I'll probably go pick it up next paycheck. I mean, if I can get it for like, 25 bucks or whatever, then I'm not too worried.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Bastos on Sat 10/06/2006 12:04:57
you can always try Veil of Darkness, I loved it....

Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Ali on Sat 10/06/2006 17:21:33
Well, Black Dahlia isn't always popular, being FMV and all but I think it's excellent. Very atmospheric and with a good balance between detective story and occult horror.

Realms of the Haunting was puzzley enough for me to enjoy it as an adventure rather than a shoot'em-up (which was what we called 'em in them days).

Shadow of the Comet and Post Mortem both have their charms, but also have very frustrating flaws.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Radiant on Sat 10/06/2006 22:32:39
I think somebody already mentioned this, but Slouching Towards Bedlam is awesmoe.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Gord10 on Sun 11/06/2006 09:16:35
I was really freaked out playing "Scratches". It was one of the scariest games I've played.
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Nathan23 on Mon 12/06/2006 19:30:01
As far as I know  Phantasmagoria I is the best adventure game mystery horror, is like a horror movie, the second part is a disaster.

Also the Gabriel Knight series, especially the GK2, but I never played.

I could say the Shivers series is fine too.
And Lighthouse is a great mystery game.

And For Resident Evil is great I love it, but it doesn't fit in the classic adventure games for me.

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Post by: cpage on Tue 13/06/2006 05:14:35
Not sure if anyone mentioned it but i suggest Pleurghburg
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Post by: Exorph on Tue 13/06/2006 12:59:49
Quote from: Nathan23 on Mon 12/06/2006 19:30:01
As far as I knowÃ,  Phantasmagoria I is the best adventure game mystery horror, is like a horror movie, the second part is a disaster.

I liked the second part a LOT more than the first.
Granted, both games seem to use gore and sex just to sell copies, but I found the story and acting of the second game to actually be decent and at times even good..
The puzzles suck, but with a nice walkthrough to guide me through the game, I find it to be rather enjoyable.

The first one was just.. o_O
Title: Re: What are the best Horror/Mystery adventure games?
Post by: Secret Fawful on Wed 14/06/2006 19:19:58
I recommend Call of Cthulhu as far as atmospheric games. The village people in that game were AWESOME. I didn't mind the FPS parts that much myself, but the first half is better.

And if you can understand Japanese, I recommend finding a copy of The Moment the Cicadas Cry. (I doubt anything comes close to being creepier or more disturbing than that game <, maybe not even Phantasmorgia)