(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/La_Lore/ConfyQuest.png)
I hope your new project does better than Arizona Scott! And can we have some alt-text for the dialuppers? And Darth should lock this for only havign 1 srceenshot ;D
Arizona Scott was killed by the big '04 HD crash!!! ;D
And it has 100% of the screenies there.
Now, focus on the game, and ignore the typos! ;)
Comfort Quest :o
Hehe, sounds neat, and looks too! Poke me on msn sometime if you're in desperate need of music, I'd like to compose more piratey tunes.
Seems a little silly putting a thread for a one room game up in GIP. The background looks lovely but what's with the main character?
Story sounds good :)
Good looking background. You've really hit the MI feeling.
Looks like he's freezing a little...
You forgot to give the poor bastard some pants!
Mmmm... I am not totally sure about the nudity. It is original, yeah, and I would have keep the nudity if I were the first to do it. But Helm did a one room game called Vaginas and the main char was nude. No originallity now, I might put some XVIIth century pants... Who agrees and who doesn't?
re-draw the character. He looks too much like erics template :/ And we all know you can do better than that!
But I like Eric's... :-\ And it's been quite painted-over... :(
I'd give him some clothes - he'd look less like a wooden puppet.
I don't have a problem with the no clothes thing, but you should base his anatomy on reference photos or sketches from real life rather than Eric's template. I would be more than happy to do a quick paintover to show you exactly what i mean if you want to post the sprite alone, full size.
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/La_Lore/EIP0.png)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/La_Lore/EIP0.png%3Cbr%20/%3E)
Here it is the main template. Thanks all for the help.
again much love for eric and the template idea, but it's not a good template in all directions. mainly the head-on one, and it's assorted walking cycle. The sideways one is fine. The front view has no gravity and looks wooden. Don't mirror human poses, who stands in a mirrored stance besides eric when he feels like a superhero anyway?
Be my guest with the nudity, we need less pants in adventure games.
(http://www.locustleaves.com/edit.png)
basically, avoid pure black. the room is dark enough as it is. Hope the edit helps.
btw I posed for this. naked.
The advises about the sprite are resulting into a little block in the game making process. BB wants to help as well, so I am basically waiting till receiving all the options to know which is the best. The game will be done, but you won't see a progress this week, maybe, so, don't worry for me, and don't hesitate to go on with the advises, they are being notes and I am acting in consequence.
EDIT: Helm! Self-portait!?! Your wheelie is 12 pixels and mine is 3!!! Greek power?
pass that information alone to Lore
Quote from: Farlander on Tue 18/10/2005 09:03:35
EDIT: Helm! Self-portait!?! Your wheelie is 12 pixels and mine is 3!!! Greek power?
Right, yours is 3 pixels long, :=
Actually I'll suggest adding to the original topic some text like "(Warning: contains images of pixelated penis!)" so to warn the innocent girls.
I think since we're talking about graphics edits and paint-overs some of the posts here may be moved to C+C forum.
Indeed, continue that discussion in C+C.
It all looks good, Farl, too bad it will only be a one room game, I think you have the capacity of pulling off something larger.
/me has dirty mind, he has some interpretation to andail's reply in "pulling off something larger".
Alright enough fun, I'll shut up now.
Just to defend my sprite:
If you read Loomis' books he says that the best way to draw the figure is to draw one side and then mirror it, because perfect symmetry is the only way to represent nature. Since nature is made up of straight lines and symmetrical objects and any randomness has been evolved out of nature, I must say that my sprite is clearly perfect.
While Helm's sprite may have more colours I must say that the fact that it isn't perfectly symmetrical just comes off as completely amateur and well.. Sorry helm but you shouldn't use Poser and Bryce for your pixel art.
However, about the game, you've been working on this for a while haven't you Farl? I remember you showed me this background a while ago, along with a sweet animation. Good luck and I would suggest at least redrawing the standing still facing out frame because he is rather wooden, but... That's what you get for free! If someone would pay me for my tutorials they'd be much better!
hehe, I was working in this for a long time, but the background was different. Maybe you remember it because the colour squeme was the same, but I discovered that the double perspectives were a problem, so, I finally gave up with the tail in my legs, like a sissy dog. The original Bg can be seen in CL in the "perspective problems" thread.
And I love your sprite Eric, I am just waiting for BB's edit to see all the options. :)
Okay, this is really quick and dirty (could only spend about an hour on it), but here's my take on the sprite. I started doing it as a mini tutorial, but I ran out of time (and patience :P ).
Here's a brief explanation:
1. Quick silhouette drawn with a size 2 brush.
2. Flipped figure, refined borders.
3. Picked some colors for the shading, started filling out highlights (and flipped back).
4. More of step 3 (flipped again).
5. Everything is in this step. Lots of pixel pushing and fiddly thing (flipped again).
The way it ended up, I don't think it's very usable for the game (it's too detailed to animate easily), but maybe it can serve as a reference for a more dynamic pose. As far as the anatomy goes, his head is too big and his legs are probably too short. I'm not very happy with his feet either. Damn, the more I think about it, the less I like my version. Grrrrr.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/EIPOed.gif)
Actually, it's plain horrible. I should really draw a better one if I have time. Sorry to rasie your hopes.
Not very usable, no, but... I think there's something freudian here! He is David, of Michel Angelo! :D It would work supperb for a Florentine background! ;)
indeed too much contrapost, big brother.
Maybe you could make two versions of him to satisfy the masses: the default is pants on, but by typing in '3Y3 1uv3 p0rn' he turns nude and an entirely new (and porn-tastic) tune plays in the background!
Okay, I made a new version that I'm happier with (on the far right in the pic). This one would be def easier to animate. (3 colors)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/EIPOed2.gif)
Quote from: Gilbot V7000a on Tue 18/10/2005 09:28:47
/me has dirty mind, he has some interpretation to andail's reply in "pulling off something larger".
Alright enough fun, I'll shut up now.
Bang goes my punchline..
Quote from: ProgZmax on Wed 19/10/2005 04:03:21
Maybe you could make two versions of him to satisfy the masses: the default is pants on, but by typing in '3Y3 1uv3 p0rn' he turns nude and an entirely new (and porn-tastic) tune plays in the background!
Or instead, when you type:
0M9 1'M N07 94Y
You can play with a female character.
Mild! MILD! This is NOT MILD nudity ladies and gentlemen. Could you redo your topic title saying extreme nudity, so much that I can't believe no one has commented on how I need a psychiatrist. =P Don't get me wrong I like the idea and design concept. It better be cool! *readys mob and pitchforks in case farlander gets lazy*
I love this BG and remember it from CL...
But about nudity - hide this weenie. It's not about ethics and nude or not nude thing, but personally, I find that just gross.
I don't want to play a game with nude men in it!
Then again, some women... hmm ;)
I say give this guy some pants, so I can look at this thread while my father is here... plus, I think I had a minor heart attack when I found pixelated naked guy...
That's the typical "giggling" post we should see in a high school when giving sexual education classes...
Come on, people, it is mild, the biggest penis here has 12 pixels. BB's sprite reminds me to David, would you post a "Attention, extreme nudity" in the gate of the medici's museum?
Anyway, SSH would probably sript it, and he wants the penis to be censored, as he will script it in the work (which apparently is in the Vatican city or something...) Ã, ;)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/La_Lore/Walk.gif)
Anyway, I've come with this, it is a mix of Eric's, BB's and Helm's. And he has the hands together, so no headaches with that... It is logic and works fine for me. No CL here please, I am quite happy about that, if you wanna mention something about it make it in the way the mods don't want to kill me please. Ã, :D
EDIT: Wanting to play just with nude girls is sexist! :-\
No it's not... it means we would rather see naked ladies than hairy naked guy. I'm sure a girl wouldn't mind playing as a naked guy if that's what they wanted to see, but it's sure as hell not what I want to see.
To quote Seinfeld: "A man's body is like a jeep: it's made for getting around."
Farlander, keep him nude if you want him nude, obviously you know that already.
I like how no one freaked out over Helm's OROW game. It's not even a real penis, it's a few pixels.
As for the animation, try bobbing his hands up and down a few pixels when he walks. It would add some life and the overlap would help.
Eric
Quote from: MrColossal on Wed 19/10/2005 17:51:29
As for the animation, try bobbing his hands up and down a few pixels when he walks. It would add some life and the overlap would help.
We don't want to see that part come to life, thanx very much ;) I think his stride is too long. A guy with his hands liek that would surely shuffle more...?
Quote from: MrColossal on Wed 19/10/2005 17:51:29
Farlander, keep him nude if you want him nude, obviously you know that already.
Ow, come on. It's a little adventure game, not some fancy piece of art.
My suggestion: Pirate WOMAN, not entirely nude but with torn clothes and sexy look.
Who's with me? :D
Even better have 2 different versions. One for males and one for females. That would be fun. Apart from the sprite nothing else would change, unless there is a puzzle concerning the male human anatomy!
It looks like the top half of original dude was put on two skinny legs. It doesn't look right.
Although the deciding factor on weather or not I'll play this game is if you give him some pants...
okay, it seems the petition (which was a joke) could have worked, in which everyone signs who wants to see pants on this dude. hehe.
now i guess darth is gonna delete my post again? ???
i guess only certain members are allowed to make jokes. ;)
Farlander, just managed to see the animation. It's fine, but he looks like he's walking miles and miles. So large steps... And he's locked up. You might want to reconsider... OR maybe put this sprite in the cc so we can argue a bit more. That would be fun!
Here, I didn't really spend alot of time on this or try to match the shading of the top half, I left that for you (if you decide to use it). This is 8 frames (down from the 10 of the original). I didn't really touch it up at all, you could add some more shoulder movement and torso movement as well. You can use it as a general guide anyway.
(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/Walk.gif)
(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/Walk.gif)
He's got boobies!
Wow, ProgZ, I like what you've done with the movement! I think that adding a chain to connect the manacles would be cool. It might be fun to animate the swinging chain.
As for side to side shoulder movement, I would keep it very subtle. I think his shoulders bounce a little too much up and down as it is. Maybe reduce that movement by 1 pixel.
this game looks cool farlander.
i think the shoulders are fine, with his hands tied it gives him that feel of heaviness, like the chain is a burden. That is some awesome work progz. :) Keep the shoulders
he looks like some powerful warrior guy in chains :)
i think the shoulders looks exactly right. overexagerration (i have no idea how to spell this word) is great, especially in an ags game. it just looks better.
overexaggeration ;)
And his legs look much better... before it looked like his legs belonged to someone else but he sewed them to himself.
His entire body bounces a bit too much... but that's trivial. It looks good.
Jezus, are you people for real? Do you honestly find a naked man offensive? And in contradiction to a woman?!
My concerns lies more in the fact that this guy is like the posterchild for fitness+steroids.. or a chippendale.. Some bodily fat'd be nice, or hair.. no need to add to the equality inbetween sexes by objectifying males aswell.
Prog: That leg shading looks SO cartoony lowres. Gorgeous!
No one here is offended, or looking to objectify anything. And a naked woman isn't unnofensive in contradiction, it's just easier to look at. Don't take it that way.
One of the problems with him is that the lines and shadings of the rest of his body are darker than his legs are, giving them a strange look.
** Darth's leniency fails ... **
Guys, this isn't the Critics Lounge nor a discussion on the rights and wrongs of male vs. female anatomy!
Let's get back on topic. :)
So Darth... what happened to your avatar?
:-X
Ok, ok, I'd love Nacho to give us an update on this one. It looked like it was nearly ready two weeks ago.
There is a bottle neck in the animations, but I am advancing slowly. There is a major surprise in the game, but I think I can include it without CriticsLounging... So... let's wait till 10th (I might finish it in the scheduled time, but I am not sure about the scripting time...) So, lets add 5 more days to the date of 10.
Is it just me or does the main character slightly resembles Helm? :=
He is Helm.
Quote from: King_Nipper on Wed 02/11/2005 14:40:20
No one here is offended, or looking to objectify anything.Ã, And a naked woman isn't unnofensive in contradiction, it's just easier to look at.Ã, Don't take it that way.
Is there another way of taking it? You say that a woman is "easier" to look at. So there is a difference in male and female full frontal nudity?
Secondly, that is NOT Helm. A nude Helm would vaugely resemble a sasquatch.. :=
You mean he'd look something like....
(http://www.locustleaves.com/edit.png)
this?
I like the animation:
(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/Walk.gif)
But what's he doing with his hands right there? It looks a little suspicious ... ;D
Possibly chained/tied/handcuffed together...
...or something else...
Farlandero!
Very nice looking, amigo, I love absolutely!
Game for gay people like you and me, at last! Let's spoil their brains! Don't add body fat, fat is ugly, we know, no?
brother: Nope, more like something seen in the first isntallment of the Ben Jordan series..