Laura Bow in Colonel's Bequest: Resurrection

Started by Jodo Kast, Sun 28/12/2003 23:19:51

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Angelus3K

LF that demo was great!!! I love your backgrounds!!

Why dont you make a game? Seriously you make superb sierra style backgrounds!!

Bryce

Jodo,

In return for real feedback, I asked only for the demo. It seems that you don't want for me to have it, since it's not in my email.

At the VERY least, could you post specific information on how to download the demo off of kazaa? I use it fairly regularly, but have been unable to find it. Are you on kazaa the whole time?  I'd really really like to see the demo, but it's unfortunate that you won't let me a) host it or at the very least b) see it.

Please, at the VERY least, post specific instructinos on how to get the file. I've done a lot of searching for it, and it has turned up failed. Could you potentially have your friends put it in their kazaa folder as well? As many people said, they can't find it. They want to give you feedback, but they simply cannot.

-Bryce (MuzlakOofmay)

DGMacphee

Am I imagining things or did this thread mysteriously shrink in the wash?
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Jodo Kast

MuzlakOofmay,

The demos are on Kazaa.  Why insist on whining about what I am - or am not - doing for you?  I am not your personal slave.

Future releases will be distributed differently, so don't worry about it, I won't use Kazaa again.  I know you'll like the game.

Jodo Kast

Darth Mandarb

Quote from: DGMacphee on Wed 31/12/2003 04:15:56
Am I imagining things or did this thread mysteriously shrink in the wash?

Ummm ... I was wondering that too.

I'm a little confused here.

Perhaps we have a forum poltergeist or something?  A gremlin perhaps?  A ghoulie?  A critter?  A boogins?

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Bryce

QuoteThe demos are on Kazaa. Why insist on whining about what I am - or am not - doing for you? I am not your personal slave.

Um... I'm not whining. In fact,  I have been very realistic and helpful to you. I've given you positive feedback in return for this new demo. I have whined none.

Also, I asked for instructions on how to get these files. I've looked for "LBCBR" and gotten no results. Am I searching for the wrong keyword? This is hardly whining. In fact, I'm doing what I can in my best efforts to HELP YOU OUT, even though I don't necessarily believe that you have a demo.

I've been supportive of this project, helped with suggestions for backgrounds, given feedback, and I get this "whining" crap. Please save it for someone who deserves it.

Again, I'm trying to help you out. I honestly want to help you out in anyway that I can within reason, but my offers to host your files have resulted in nothing. I'm sorry for trying to be helpful Jodo.

I've stuck up for you throughout this entire discussion Jodo. I've put time and effort into helping you out with feedback, suggestions, and even a background! Really, why are you attacking basically the only person who's stuck up for you? I haven't really said it, but I don't' believe that you have a demo. But I do believe that everyone has jumped the gun, and I want to help you out in rectifying the situation. Please don't attack someone that's only offering a helping hand.

-Bryce

AGA

I am the reason this thread keeps shrinking. I delete all the posts that have no actual relevance to the game (most of them).

Erpy

Jodo, your statement that the game will take place in the present somewhat clashes with the statement on your site that it's important to you to keep with the spirit of the original. Blackthorne gave some arguments why changing the timeline may cause complications. It's not just the family tree, it's the entire essence of the game that may be subject to change. And it might make people wonder why Laura simply doesn't use her cellphone to contact the police after the first body is found.

I'm curious to the reason for this change. It's not because you're reluctant to do large amounts of editing on the character models in order to make them fit a 20's look, is it? The main questions are "Why?" and "Are you absolutely sure about this?"

I'm all for overhauls when the game in question calls for it (KQ2), but Laura Bow had a fairly stable plotbase to begin with.


Eero

Nice one, LucasFan!
Jodo, please give us at least a sig2dat link, if you don't want to upload the demos elsewhere...

Jodo Kast

#29
Please see my previous message regarding my demo and Kazaa.

If Erpy had not deleted my posts and banned me from their forums I would be more than happy to help you with Kazaa.  

But Erpy made it clear I have to start over in this forum.  So you can look at the website or help me with the game (see first post in this thread).

Do you get it yet?  It's hard to respond to one Erpy who banishes me.  It might be better if you used a different name so I don't automatically ignore you.  You see, DEMOS EQUAL AGDIFORUMS.  I am banished and my threads were deleted, the only place where I tell people to expect demos in 2003.  Now read the first post of this thread over again.  It says demos in 2004.  No mention of demos that have already been released.  If you want to find them, search for technology demo or lbcbr in Kazaa.  If the 3 people who downloaded my demos don't share you can blame them.  I deleted my Test Demos I created specifically for the visitors at AGDIFORUMS.  For more than obvious reasons!  Now I am banned so the project starts anew (as you can see from the website).

Thanks for understanding.

Jodo Kast

Jodo Kast

#30
BTW. the Cellphone doesn't work.  Laura can try it again and get the same response.

Must be because the island is out in the bayou?

BTW: I felt the original KQ2 plot was superior to the rewrite, only because I got sick of looking at the muddy VGA graphics. See?  Even a good plot can't save bad graphics.  You just want it to frickin end already and kiss Valanice.  This is my opinion, and I'll trot it out happily...

Jodo Kast

Vel

Jodo, I wasnt very optimistic about your remake in the first place, but this modern days thing simply sucks. This wont be much of a remake, if it is being done and if it ever gets finished.

Erpy

#32
Okay, I'm going to try and keep this as civil as possible, so my post won't get deleted, but you're rapidly wasting your credibility in my book.

QuoteThanks for understanding.

I don't understand anything. And I don't think I'm the only one.

QuotePlease see my previous message regarding my demo and Kazaa.

The problem is that your directions are not sufficient. Nobody can find it. And people who complain about it are labelled by you as whiners.

QuoteIf Erpy had not deleted my posts and banned me from their forums I would be more than happy to help you with Kazaa.

Nobody's gonna blame ME for YOUR attitude. I think you're just looking for excuses. This is the silliest thing I've ever heard. Perhaps I should explain once more...

- The meaning of our game making forums is to allow people to help each other with game making questions. It's a crossbreed between the technical forum and the critics lounge. Not a recruitment place and we'd rather not have too many people just using it to draw publicity to their own project. You assumed you could just use our forums as a base of operations for your project. You were wrong.

- Your threads kept turning into flamewars. That's not why you were banned. Both sides were at fault. We removed the threads and asked people to drop the subject. We had grown tired of continously watching the thread and warning both sides to remain civil. (didn't work)

- After the threads were removed, we politely asked to drop the subject. Your project has had plenty of publicity, but future threads were doomed to become public spectacles. The rest didn't mind. You did.

- You kept attempting to create new CBR-threads on our forums or posted complaint threads about how we deleted work that "didn't match our style". (poppycock!) Since you were completely unwilling to put the issue to rest, we (and I'm speaking for the rest of the team too) decided to revoke your posting abilities until the whole hype had died down. I mentioned to you that I would lift the ban, but that I just didn't want any more CBR-related threads in our game making forum for a while.

- This forum was more suitable to promote your game, since it's the forum of the engine. (you're not using the forum of the "competition" to attract publicity)

QuoteBut Erpy made it clear I have to start over in this forum.

Yes, I did and you did.

QuoteSo you can look at the website or help me with the game (see first post in this thread).

I don't think you're in the mood to take anything I say as constructive, but I need to say it anyway. When I see other threads, I see developers who are answering questions from the visitors and taking feedback into account. You, on the other hand, ignore most of the feedback given to you and hardly answer any questions at all. When people comment on something, they expect you to defend it or agree with it, but you simply don't comment back at all. And when someone asks a question you don't want to answer you either ignore him or insult him. Other developers try to spread their work as much as possible, but you stubbornly refuse to listen to people. This is REALLY the wrong way to keep up your public relations.

QuoteDo you get it yet? It's hard to respond to one Erpy who banishes me. It might be better if you used a different name so I don't automatically ignore you.

I could have chosen to use some anonymous fake name, but decided just to use my own account, so I wouldn't feel like doing anything secretive. But I'm not the only one you've been ignoring.

QuoteYou see, DEMOS EQUAL AGDIFORUMS.

So just because you can't use our fanbase and popularity to feed on means you refuse to share any work? What's the reason? I don't understand.

QuoteI am banished and my threads were deleted, the only place where I tell people to expect demos in 2003.

I explained my reasons above. I'm willing to post the links of those old threads, but they no longer work anyway.

QuoteNow read the first post of this thread over again. It says demos in 2004.No mention of demos that have already been released.

You kept mentioning a christmas demo over and over again. It was to be found on Kazaa. I have proof to back up my statement. Here's the first posts of two of your threads in the AGDI forums. (one of them no longer in the game making forum)

Posted on 12-24-2003

QuoteLaura Bow: Colonel's Bequest Remake Demo is ready for download!

Just search Kazaa for LBCBR and it should come up. It will be easier to download as time passes...

Enjoy! Till Christmas 2004, Have a great new year!

Jodo Kast

Posted on 12-27-2003

QuoteErpy,

Where did the Laura Bow Remake Thread go?

I have screenshots I want to post from the demo for people who can't download it.

I am assuming you guys just want to mess with me. Any info would help as I am getting annoyed.

Jodo Kast

You make promises, so why refuse to live up to them now?

QuoteIf you want to find them, search for technology demo or lbcbr in Kazaa.

People can't find them. Everyone around here can confirm that.

QuoteIf the 3 people who downloaded my demos don't share you can blame them.

As the developer, it's YOUR responsibility to get YOUR work to people who are interested. You've had host offers aplenty. You can't pass the blame on others.

QuoteI deleted my Test Demos I created specifically for the visitors at AGDIFORUMS. For more than obvious reasons! Now I am banned so the project starts anew (as you can see from the website).

Why did you delete them? I don't see the obvious reasons, unless the reason was that people were disappointed by the demo's and took the liberty to tell you that. And me banning you is no reason to restart your project. Your project is (or SHOULD BE)completely unrelated to any 3th party forum whatsoever!

QuoteBTW: I felt the original KQ2 plot was superior to the rewrite, only because I got sick of looking at the muddy VGA graphics. See? Even a good plot can't save bad graphics. You just want it to frickin end already and kiss Valanice. This is my opinion, and I'll trot it out happily...

Completely unrelated to your thread and spam according to your own definitions. Once again, you're just trying to throw a jab at me.


Jodo Kast

Remember Erpy!

Nothing on AGDI Forums makes a DIFFERENCE because you deleted it!

It's gone!

Get over it!

Jodo Kast

Jodo Kast

Quote from: Vel on Wed 31/12/2003 10:51:12
Jodo, I wasnt very optimistic about your remake in the first place, but this modern days thing simply sucks. This wont be much of a remake, if it is being done and if it ever gets finished.

Thanks for your support!

Jodo Kast

Vel


The Subliminal Messenger

#36
I must admit, this is getting stupid.

Jodo, the King's Quest remakes were great games in everyone's opinions. A lot of people were sceptical about KQVGA when it was first announced, but once it was finished and done well, everyone thought Tierra were the best thing since sliced bread. So my advice to you is to shut up and make the damn game, so we'll all think you are the best thing since AGDI.

And in my opinion, AGDI's VGA graphics were far superior to any 3d technology, as I'm sure many will agree.
No one told me there were laws AGAINST Public Nudity!

scotch

You just don't know when to stop, do you Vel?

When a thread has been locked and cleaned because you are posting flames and spam in it (which a moderator has already told you was the reason) then it is not a good idea to continue in the same vein on the new thread.  There is no need to respond to this post btw.

If Jodo is doing something wrong then the more responsible members of the board will deal with it.  He does not have to prove to anyone he has the ability to finish the project, or that he can design a good game, or that he has a demo.  It is unfortunate he would pretend he has one if he doesn't but that's hardly a good reason to make pages and pages of pointless posts about it.

This thread is for advertising, suggestions and feedback.  Not personal attacks or non constructive critisism.

If he can't finish the game then you've already got what you seem to want.  You can shut up now.

Erpy

#38
QuoteRemember Erpy!

Nothing on AGDI Forums makes a DIFFERENCE because you deleted it!

It's gone!

Get over it!

Jodo Kast

If you're saying that the quotes I took from your posts are no longer relevant evidence because one of the threads is no longer on the public forum, I'd like to remind you that the "deleted" thread is still in the moderator forum and can be returned if I would have to.

"Get over it" is exactly what I wanted to say to you. According to your previous post, not me but you were the one who started beating this particular dead horse as an excuse as to why you weren't going to help anybody locate your demo. You using me as an excuse was something I didn't like at all. Whether you have a demo or not is not known. All I mentioned is that you promised screenshots and a demo and that you didn't deliver.

I was actually expecting you to react on my points. I'm disappointed you simply pretend I didn't answer your post.


Midnight Mist

QuoteThis thread is for advertising, suggestions and
feedback. Not personal attacks or non constructive critisism.

Yes, but he also said he has a demo out there for people to play. Anyone is yet to find his demo and when they ask
about it, he bashes them back calling them idiots or some
other kind of insult excuses.

What do you want them to do scotch?  ???

He asks for feedback on his demo, but yet no one can give it to him because he gets mad when people ask how to find it.

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