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AGS Support => Beginners' Technical Questions => Topic started by: yodabear on Tue 21/01/2025 18:46:25

Title: kings quest perils of rosella
Post by: yodabear on Tue 21/01/2025 18:46:25
I want to download perils of rosella a kings quest game but my computer windows 11 is telling me it's not safe, why is that

thank you
Title: Re: kings quest perils of rosella
Post by: Khris on Tue 21/01/2025 20:40:03
@yodabear

Afaik Win 11 shows this box whenever you try to open *any* unsigned exe file. AGS games (and tons of other hobbyist / indie games) are pretty much never signed because nobody bothers to go through the trouble.

Just click on "More Info" then on "Run anyway". In the next box, uncheck "Always ask before opening this file" and click "Run".

It's fine, I'm doing this multiple times a day and have been for years.
Title: Re: kings quest perils of rosella
Post by: RootBound on Wed 22/01/2025 14:07:07
Quote from: Khris on Tue 21/01/2025 20:40:03@yodabear
AGS games (and tons of other hobbyist / indie games) are pretty much never signed because nobody bothers to go through the trouble.

Hey @Khris (and and everyone else), I'm wondering if maybe there should be an official and/or stickied tutorial thread on how to do this. I've never done it myself because I'm not sure of the best and/or cheapest way to do so. A quick search turned up these results, but I'm not sure it's accessible enough for beginning devs. What do you think?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/252226/signing-a-windows-exe-file

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48946680/how-to-avoid-the-windows-defender-smartscreen-prevented-an-unrecognized-app-fro/66582477#66582477
Title: Re: kings quest perils of rosella
Post by: eri0o on Wed 22/01/2025 14:15:34
No one reads sticker threads - I won't get in detail on how I know this.

But no one ever does it in games because no one runs raw exe files, everyone buys games on Steam and runs them from there so you never see this.
Title: Re: kings quest perils of rosella
Post by: Crimson Wizard on Wed 22/01/2025 17:07:48
Quote from: RootBound on Wed 22/01/2025 14:07:07Hey @Khris (and and everyone else), I'm wondering if maybe there should be an official and/or stickied tutorial thread on how to do this.

There's a sticky thread:
https://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/advanced-technical-forum/setting-publisher-and-authenticode-signature-for-game-exe-and-winsetup-exe/
Title: Re: kings quest perils of rosella
Post by: RootBound on Wed 22/01/2025 19:43:15
Thanks, CW. Clearly I have proven eri0o's point about sticky threads. Oops. I'm glad it seems there are options out there, since I may at some point make a commercial game still released through itch.io, and would want Windows to show it as verified. Steam has a high financial barrier to entry. Anyway, I'll leave it at that so as not to get the thread off topic.
Title: Re: kings quest perils of rosella
Post by: eri0o on Wed 22/01/2025 19:47:10
I don't know if something happened but when I looked into this 8 years ago the certificates were much more expensive than the cost of steam entry and you had to pay for it yearly, so really Steam is the cheapest.
Title: Re: kings quest perils of rosella
Post by: RootBound on Wed 22/01/2025 22:36:46
Maybe I misunderstood something. The stickied thread mentions CACert providing certificates freely.
Title: Re: kings quest perils of rosella
Post by: eri0o on Thu 23/01/2025 00:52:55
It's been a long time, but if I remember correctly, turns out the certificates from CAcert and other free certificates they aren't actually useful for this purpose, because they assume you own either the machines or the administration of the machines so you can add the root certificate of that authority (or whatever those are called) to the machines.

On Windows some authorities have root certificates that already come with Windows - so don't require the user to install additional certificates.

Here is the current list

https://ccadb.my.salesforce-sites.com/microsoft/IncludedCACertificateReportForMSFT

Note people in different Windows versions (both major and the big XXHX updates) may have different elements from this list.
Title: Re: kings quest perils of rosella
Post by: Snarky on Thu 23/01/2025 12:14:48
Quote from: eri0o on Wed 22/01/2025 14:15:34But no one ever does it in games because no one runs raw exe files, everyone buys games on Steam and runs them from there so you never see this.

I don't think that's true of most AGS games.
Title: Re: kings quest perils of rosella
Post by: heltenjon on Thu 23/01/2025 12:35:16
Quote from: Snarky on Thu 23/01/2025 12:14:48
Quote from: eri0o on Wed 22/01/2025 14:15:34But no one ever does it in games because no one runs raw exe files, everyone buys games on Steam and runs them from there so you never see this.

I don't think that's true of most AGS games.
No, but probably most commercial games.